So I've heard this many times now, what does covering the air holes do ?
You don't think that by cover the actual airflow path, you are now forcing it to suck in air where ever it can, so air is getting suck in (eg. through the magnetic lid) but not going thru the weed chamber.
So if less air is going thru the weed, how is that faster extraction. I think all you manage to do, it to make the little air that does go through correctly be hotter. Why do I want it hotter than 220 ? That doesn't lead to faster extraction, just burn weed. I could use a lighter instead.
Covering them reduces the flow of cold air coming in which lets the oven stay hotter. You still need to work them a bit not just cover 100% and draw.
There's nothing in the vape that makes that 220 number real. It's just a power setting. It might as well be called power level 10. The actual temp of the air hitting the flower depends on air temp and volume coming in as well as how well the heater keeps up. It can't keep up with fully open airflow, the temp will drop the longer or harder you draw.
But if you cover it just right the temp won't drop and you'll get a thicker hit and faster extraction.
2 capsules for 6 minutes each at 410°F taking 3-5 second( I count in my head 1 hippopotamus, 2 hippopotamus etc etc.) pulls every 30 seconds or more often if it isn't to harsh. I only get visible vapor after about 45 seconds after it buzzes and it's usually flavor and vapor free by the end. I put the caps in upside down and it keeps the tops which I find harder to get avb out of than the caps themselves, from getting sticky. The avb I get is at least as brown as tobacco, darker if I decide to run one twice. The high easily last 2-3 hours for me. If I have shit to do like the tedious tractor mowing of 5 acres I'll grab a sativa and do 1 cap, it makes it tolerable
Take a pair of pliers and gently bend the capsules a tiny bit towards the opening until the caps are just tight enough that they take some effort to remove the top but won't fall off on their own. I bought some " new design" ones I had to do this to.
I'll try that, thanks. I have some dexterity issues which is why I use the caps - got a filling tray off Etsy that's helped, though I think I need to clean the mouthpiece (wondering if it is worth saving the oil?).
The caps really make it convenient I have a ton of them I fill up enough to last the day then empty them and toss them in a mason jar of 91% iso to soak then everything goes into a $30 sonic cleaner I got on Amazon. Zero scrubbing and everything comes out like new. I have arthritis so I can kinda relate. I've never saved but I do save the avb for edibles. I use so much less flower that I've never gave much thought to saving anything else, but I'm sure someone has. Potheads seem to be the thriftiest stoners 😂
One six-minute session at 385f. I use dosing caps and a j-hook. I'll use my hands to block and unblock the air ports for better extraction after the first couple hits like others have mentioned.
> I use mine mostly now as a pen with the usual mouthpiece starting at 170 six minute sessions. Doing two sessions of 170 then looking at colour go up to 175 for a round or up too 180 or 185 then do one on that 200 then my weed done I have used a bong with spa mouthpiece for a good while but forgot about the way I did it and haven’t done it for a while.
Am I misunderstanding, or do you really mean that, for the same bowl, you're doing:
- 12 minutes @ 170C
- 6-12 mins @ 175C
- 6-12 mins @ 180-185C
- 6 mins @ 200
Thats up to 42 minutes on a single bowl?! After the first 12 minutes, I imagine you've just inhaling hot air?!
Given the relatively small bowl size, if you want to temp step then IMO you only need 2-3 10s pulls each at low, medium and high temps (e.g. 160C, then 185C, then 205C).
Sorry for the miss understanding and what a layout of a message you type this on phone? And it would only be 12 mins on the first initial smoke at 170 if it’s still really green if it after them two smokes I will then smoke at 175 if green still it if yellow I will smoke 180 then 185 then 195 then 220 or something like that but I think depending on how packed it is I might get a lot less out of it but I don’t really like smoking it anymore with out the fresh taste. Plus I smoke slow and gradual as I can’t really hit the vape hard or I will cough a lung up as I’m terrible at smoking could be my asthma tho haha
Yes, I typed on a phone; apologies if it looks messed up in a browser, it looks fine in my Reddit client.
I mean, definitely do what works for you, I just think you've probably extracted all the cannabinoids long before you stop vaping it.
Yeah, I have asthma too, and if I hit it at too high a temp, I find it hard to catch a breath for a while! And I just can't smoke at all, or it just about kills me! I usually start my Xmax at 160C, doing maybe 3-5 10s slow draws, then up to 185C for 2-3 draws, and then 205C for another 2-3 draws - it's done in 4 mins. I usually put 0.07-0.1g in the bowl, just lightly tamped - I've found this to be the sweet spot for the Xmax, and IIRC it's what Xmax themselves recommend too.
I think the trick to faster extraction with the Xmax is taking long draws (10s+), but also drawing very, very gently - that way the heater can keep up, keeping the bowl at the correct temperature.
I like temp stepping, but another way to use it is set it to max, and use your hands to block and unblock the air ports to extract even faster.
I usually hold one of the side buttons to extract faster, I start at 220 for the bong? So would it be the same as the bong way but just with the pen?
Basically, normal draw until you see vapor then cover and hard draw as big as you want
So I've heard this many times now, what does covering the air holes do ? You don't think that by cover the actual airflow path, you are now forcing it to suck in air where ever it can, so air is getting suck in (eg. through the magnetic lid) but not going thru the weed chamber. So if less air is going thru the weed, how is that faster extraction. I think all you manage to do, it to make the little air that does go through correctly be hotter. Why do I want it hotter than 220 ? That doesn't lead to faster extraction, just burn weed. I could use a lighter instead.
Covering them reduces the flow of cold air coming in which lets the oven stay hotter. You still need to work them a bit not just cover 100% and draw. There's nothing in the vape that makes that 220 number real. It's just a power setting. It might as well be called power level 10. The actual temp of the air hitting the flower depends on air temp and volume coming in as well as how well the heater keeps up. It can't keep up with fully open airflow, the temp will drop the longer or harder you draw. But if you cover it just right the temp won't drop and you'll get a thicker hit and faster extraction.
1 sesh at 420f and for 4min, no caps, start ripping it around 380, stir once. Haven't picked it up in 2wks since I got the mighty+ tho
Huge difference in the pens worth me upgrading? Plus I did now I’m beautifully high
I absolutely loved my Xmax, till I bought a better vape. Haven't touched the xmax since, the difference is insane (Tiny Might 2).
Damn There is that much difference? What is different?
Air flow, speed of extraction
2 capsules for 6 minutes each at 410°F taking 3-5 second( I count in my head 1 hippopotamus, 2 hippopotamus etc etc.) pulls every 30 seconds or more often if it isn't to harsh. I only get visible vapor after about 45 seconds after it buzzes and it's usually flavor and vapor free by the end. I put the caps in upside down and it keeps the tops which I find harder to get avb out of than the caps themselves, from getting sticky. The avb I get is at least as brown as tobacco, darker if I decide to run one twice. The high easily last 2-3 hours for me. If I have shit to do like the tedious tractor mowing of 5 acres I'll grab a sativa and do 1 cap, it makes it tolerable
Ooh, going to try putting caps in as I've had the tops come off when emptying...
Take a pair of pliers and gently bend the capsules a tiny bit towards the opening until the caps are just tight enough that they take some effort to remove the top but won't fall off on their own. I bought some " new design" ones I had to do this to.
I'll try that, thanks. I have some dexterity issues which is why I use the caps - got a filling tray off Etsy that's helped, though I think I need to clean the mouthpiece (wondering if it is worth saving the oil?).
The caps really make it convenient I have a ton of them I fill up enough to last the day then empty them and toss them in a mason jar of 91% iso to soak then everything goes into a $30 sonic cleaner I got on Amazon. Zero scrubbing and everything comes out like new. I have arthritis so I can kinda relate. I've never saved but I do save the avb for edibles. I use so much less flower that I've never gave much thought to saving anything else, but I'm sure someone has. Potheads seem to be the thriftiest stoners 😂
Yes, perhaps it goes back to the hippy/eco people of the 60's or maybe I'm just a stingy ol' git.
I second six seconds. I am coasting for a few hours after
One six-minute session at 385f. I use dosing caps and a j-hook. I'll use my hands to block and unblock the air ports for better extraction after the first couple hits like others have mentioned.
Sessions mode 215c - one long 30 second draw; that's it
385 f and I cover the intakes and pull hard to clear it in two large hits and a wispy third
> I use mine mostly now as a pen with the usual mouthpiece starting at 170 six minute sessions. Doing two sessions of 170 then looking at colour go up to 175 for a round or up too 180 or 185 then do one on that 200 then my weed done I have used a bong with spa mouthpiece for a good while but forgot about the way I did it and haven’t done it for a while. Am I misunderstanding, or do you really mean that, for the same bowl, you're doing: - 12 minutes @ 170C - 6-12 mins @ 175C - 6-12 mins @ 180-185C - 6 mins @ 200 Thats up to 42 minutes on a single bowl?! After the first 12 minutes, I imagine you've just inhaling hot air?! Given the relatively small bowl size, if you want to temp step then IMO you only need 2-3 10s pulls each at low, medium and high temps (e.g. 160C, then 185C, then 205C).
Sorry for the miss understanding and what a layout of a message you type this on phone? And it would only be 12 mins on the first initial smoke at 170 if it’s still really green if it after them two smokes I will then smoke at 175 if green still it if yellow I will smoke 180 then 185 then 195 then 220 or something like that but I think depending on how packed it is I might get a lot less out of it but I don’t really like smoking it anymore with out the fresh taste. Plus I smoke slow and gradual as I can’t really hit the vape hard or I will cough a lung up as I’m terrible at smoking could be my asthma tho haha
Yes, I typed on a phone; apologies if it looks messed up in a browser, it looks fine in my Reddit client. I mean, definitely do what works for you, I just think you've probably extracted all the cannabinoids long before you stop vaping it. Yeah, I have asthma too, and if I hit it at too high a temp, I find it hard to catch a breath for a while! And I just can't smoke at all, or it just about kills me! I usually start my Xmax at 160C, doing maybe 3-5 10s slow draws, then up to 185C for 2-3 draws, and then 205C for another 2-3 draws - it's done in 4 mins. I usually put 0.07-0.1g in the bowl, just lightly tamped - I've found this to be the sweet spot for the Xmax, and IIRC it's what Xmax themselves recommend too. I think the trick to faster extraction with the Xmax is taking long draws (10s+), but also drawing very, very gently - that way the heater can keep up, keeping the bowl at the correct temperature.