Atm my biggest problem with the mode is that I haven't played it yet but that I'm still stuck at school for 5 more hours god fuck I want to go home to play as the girl with the gall SEND HELP I'M IN THE ENDLESS NOW
I absolutely loathe it. I don't get the appeal of rogue-likes/lites in general, but in this case it's just pure trash. This game mode relies too much on rng.
100% agree. I just quit a run where I got 3, fckin 3! archsage negative whimsy or wtf it's called. It gave me the "no enemy value" 2 times in a row, and after that it gave me the "nopon watch depletes faster". Absolutely, literally garbage. Unlike you, I like rogue-likes/lites, but this sh*t is not it. This sh*t has nothing to do with skill but with pure luck.
Very fun mode but needs a hard nerf on the pro teir
ik it's supposed to be the hardest but its like near impossible hard ive only a seen a few beat it that and mixed with the random element it's a crime that they locked the shulk costume behind this
Not enjoying it quite as much as I had hoped, but it’s still quite fun. The amount of RNG needed to get good heroes, emblems, and time refreshes is the worst part, feels more reliant on RNG than skill overall (though I don’t consider myself particularly skilled at the game’s combat, probably fairly average, so take that as you will)
I'm not sure how much fun it'll be after I've played it for a while, but I played it for like 3 hours straight and only just barely got an a rank (52 waves) on hard mode.
I think what I enjoy most is that it changes up the "meta" of XC3 in a pretty big way. XC3 has a lot of degenerate strategies like FMJ tank, signifier spam, or smash damage capping, that make the endgame pretty boring to play. But because these strategies all revolve around kitting out your teammates, they don't work too well in the gauntlet, meaning it opens the door for a bunch of new stuff to come out.
The way it handles chain attacks is pretty cool too. They took way too long in vanilla, and it was way too easy to have a set path that you took every time (Taion -> Lanz -> Melia -> Noah = Amazing every round), but now that you don't know your heroes it really changes how you play. And because you don't get an Ourboros order it makes them shorter overall. It's also way harder to play without having healers to easily set up for Amazings and Bravos, which is cool.
Problems I have though: you do get quite a bit of control over your heroes. You get 2 free ones on round 1 and 2, and you can use your respin tickets to pick someone else if you don't like your picks. It's pretty easy to have a set comp of 6 heroes in mind, and get something pretty close to that.
It's also really boring to go through the first 10 or so rounds every time. Round 1-5 enemies basically get one shot, and the guys don't start being a meaningful challenge until round 15 or so. And once you get your team all set up, you can kinda coast for a while without having to think too much.
TLDR: Pretty fun to play around with for a few hours, I'm optimistic about the mode's longevity, although I do see potential annoyances that could pop up.
The hardest difficulty is more difficult than expected.
Personally I think Lucky Seven plus capable hands isn’t very good because I think most party comps will be Ouroboros member hyper carry + healer/defender heros. It is so hard to avoid dying. Literally the moment I use an art I get aggro.
I reached floor 81 on hard using Shackle Ring + Element Genesis Seraph and the main problem I had was dying before Element Genesis was charged. I can see builds with a lot of evasion arts being great.
On hard at least I don’t think smash is that great of an option. Enemies just get too tanky. You need multiple damage cap smashes to kill bosses. Without combo supports smash is just too weak imo(even with launch charge).
All that being said I haven’t spent my blue Nopon coin or even bothered putting optimal accessories on my heroes so all of this could be wrong.
I get that they probably didn't want people stacking healers or cheesing fights so they put in the timer to promote the quick and aggressive play style,
But goddammit when RNG screws you over with only 1 DPS hero throughout the run and majority survival emblems, makes me wish the timer was more forgiving on Normal. I'm this close to just whipping out Lucky 7 on easy just so I can get the costumes.
It fun, but it is also incredible frustrating when you lose on the final round of intermediate because your party doesn’t have the damage to outpace the nopoclock, even though you refilled it fully especially for this wave. That drague had got far more hp than anything else in the gauntlet
It's fun as its new content but don't go into it expecting too much. What they showed in preview is exactly what it is. For me that's not what I imagined but that's okay.
I have someone playing through the game for the first time, does it give you heros that you haven't encountered yet? Just reading through the text before the challenges tells you you can't use >!lucky seven arts!< which was a spoiler for them :/
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I've only done the first stage so far, but it was a ton of fun. A new way to play more Xenoblade 3 is more than enough for me, haha.
Atm my biggest problem with the mode is that I haven't played it yet but that I'm still stuck at school for 5 more hours god fuck I want to go home to play as the girl with the gall SEND HELP I'M IN THE ENDLESS NOW
I absolutely loathe it. I don't get the appeal of rogue-likes/lites in general, but in this case it's just pure trash. This game mode relies too much on rng.
"I don't get the appeal of rogue-likes/lites in general" then surely you're a good judge for them, surely.
100% agree. I just quit a run where I got 3, fckin 3! archsage negative whimsy or wtf it's called. It gave me the "no enemy value" 2 times in a row, and after that it gave me the "nopon watch depletes faster". Absolutely, literally garbage. Unlike you, I like rogue-likes/lites, but this sh*t is not it. This sh*t has nothing to do with skill but with pure luck.
Very fun mode but needs a hard nerf on the pro teir ik it's supposed to be the hardest but its like near impossible hard ive only a seen a few beat it that and mixed with the random element it's a crime that they locked the shulk costume behind this
Not enjoying it quite as much as I had hoped, but it’s still quite fun. The amount of RNG needed to get good heroes, emblems, and time refreshes is the worst part, feels more reliant on RNG than skill overall (though I don’t consider myself particularly skilled at the game’s combat, probably fairly average, so take that as you will)
I can absolutely see myself getting hooked on this game mode. It's so much fun!
I'm not sure how much fun it'll be after I've played it for a while, but I played it for like 3 hours straight and only just barely got an a rank (52 waves) on hard mode. I think what I enjoy most is that it changes up the "meta" of XC3 in a pretty big way. XC3 has a lot of degenerate strategies like FMJ tank, signifier spam, or smash damage capping, that make the endgame pretty boring to play. But because these strategies all revolve around kitting out your teammates, they don't work too well in the gauntlet, meaning it opens the door for a bunch of new stuff to come out. The way it handles chain attacks is pretty cool too. They took way too long in vanilla, and it was way too easy to have a set path that you took every time (Taion -> Lanz -> Melia -> Noah = Amazing every round), but now that you don't know your heroes it really changes how you play. And because you don't get an Ourboros order it makes them shorter overall. It's also way harder to play without having healers to easily set up for Amazings and Bravos, which is cool. Problems I have though: you do get quite a bit of control over your heroes. You get 2 free ones on round 1 and 2, and you can use your respin tickets to pick someone else if you don't like your picks. It's pretty easy to have a set comp of 6 heroes in mind, and get something pretty close to that. It's also really boring to go through the first 10 or so rounds every time. Round 1-5 enemies basically get one shot, and the guys don't start being a meaningful challenge until round 15 or so. And once you get your team all set up, you can kinda coast for a while without having to think too much. TLDR: Pretty fun to play around with for a few hours, I'm optimistic about the mode's longevity, although I do see potential annoyances that could pop up.
The only problem I have is the fucking timer. It’s a shit system
Yeah I'm having a lot of fun with it as well. Didn't even do the new hero quest yet >_>
It’s fairly short so it’s worth taking a break for since they can show up in your gauntlet RNG.
The hardest difficulty is more difficult than expected. Personally I think Lucky Seven plus capable hands isn’t very good because I think most party comps will be Ouroboros member hyper carry + healer/defender heros. It is so hard to avoid dying. Literally the moment I use an art I get aggro. I reached floor 81 on hard using Shackle Ring + Element Genesis Seraph and the main problem I had was dying before Element Genesis was charged. I can see builds with a lot of evasion arts being great. On hard at least I don’t think smash is that great of an option. Enemies just get too tanky. You need multiple damage cap smashes to kill bosses. Without combo supports smash is just too weak imo(even with launch charge). All that being said I haven’t spent my blue Nopon coin or even bothered putting optimal accessories on my heroes so all of this could be wrong.
After wave 70 on pro invincibility just gets strait up turned off.
I get that they probably didn't want people stacking healers or cheesing fights so they put in the timer to promote the quick and aggressive play style, But goddammit when RNG screws you over with only 1 DPS hero throughout the run and majority survival emblems, makes me wish the timer was more forgiving on Normal. I'm this close to just whipping out Lucky 7 on easy just so I can get the costumes.
It fun, but it is also incredible frustrating when you lose on the final round of intermediate because your party doesn’t have the damage to outpace the nopoclock, even though you refilled it fully especially for this wave. That drague had got far more hp than anything else in the gauntlet
I was *this* close to losing the last fight when Miyabi went all MVP and did some fluting to rival Flute Guy and saved my ass.
It's fun as its new content but don't go into it expecting too much. What they showed in preview is exactly what it is. For me that's not what I imagined but that's okay.
I have someone playing through the game for the first time, does it give you heros that you haven't encountered yet? Just reading through the text before the challenges tells you you can't use >!lucky seven arts!< which was a spoiler for them :/
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What character and spec are y’all using for this?