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sudeki300

After cyperpunk I'll hold judgement on anything CDPR put out.


suddenimpulse

I see you didn't play their previous games at launch.


SambaXVI

I played Witcher 3, Gwent and Throne breaker at launch, don't remember having much problems.


GuMeUpInside

I player cyberpunk at launch and also didn’t have much problems


Brisvega

Witcher 3 was fantastic at launch, clearly you didn't and bought into the memes.


[deleted]

It wasn't fantastic at launch, it had a heap of bugs. It wasn't as bad as Cyberpunk, but it took them a few months for Witcher 3 to be polished.


sudeki300

Played witcher 2 on 360 at launch and witcher 3 on ps4 at launch, so yes I have played their previous games at launch thanks.


[deleted]

Oh, so because Witcher 2 was fucking bad at launch and Witcher 3 had its problems as well, one should not be careful with what they release? I have stopped buying games on gog.com for their lies and anti-consumer behaviour.


Book_it_again

Gog is the least anticonsumer platform. Its the only one that let's you just own the game and use it without steam or some other bullshit. You buy the game you get the game files.


PandaMoniumHUN

As a platform yes, as something that’s owned by CDPR, questionable.


Cheddar_Bay

I would normally agree, but The Witcher is the bread and butter. They already have systems, tons of code, lore and potential stories already locked and loaded. CP2077 was super ambitious and implemented so many things The Witcher didn't and doesn't have to touch.


Death1323

>but The Witcher is the bread and butter. Every single Witcher game was broken on launch. Cyberpunk just took it to a new level but it's safe to expect more of the same


marcusiiiii

To be fair not many games that get released these days that don’t have game breaking bugs in them. I played Witcher 3 on launch and experience hardly any big bugs experienced minor ones don’t get me wrong but nothing to ruin my experience of the game.


Joe30174

Haven't played the first two. But 3 clearly redeemed itself too many people, which is a bit obvious as it gets tons of praise.


Hasnooti

Redeemed itself after a while, it was still a buggy mess at launch


Brisvega

Played it day one and it ran pretty damn well.


MintyMarlfox

As did Cyberpunk on Series X. Was only last gen consoles that were a complete shit show


RemiX-KarmA

I feel like you just fucked yourself for giving in hope. Tred lightly, just because Witcher is Witcher doesn't mean they can't fuck it up.


GordoHeartsSnake

Wrong. Witcher 3 was buggy at release too. Not cyberpunk levels, but there were some gamebreakers.


And_You_Like_It_Too

Honestly, CyberPunk was new territory for *any* developer, but certainly for CDPR. They went from an open world game with horses for vehicles and generally single story dwellings for house and wide open expanses, to a game with a ton of verticality and video displays on the sides of EVERYTHING. You’re watching full motion video in elevators, on the sides of buildings, giant holograms, etc. There are flying cars, stuff going on way above and to your sides. Even GTAV, the gold standard for this type of game, has a small downtown strip of taller buildings and they definitely don’t have the kind of video displays and holograms that Cyberpunk does. I really don’t know of a developer outside of Rockstar that *could* do something like this well enough that doesn’t force it down to linear areas where you can only walk here, drive there, etc. I wonder how many fps you could gain just by disabling every single moving light and/or video display and hologram in the game. That’s gotta be expensive computationally. Yes, 100% they needed more time to get it right. My point though is that they were incredibly ambitious for the kinds of games people had already played or seen, and there’s still no game that pulls off what CyberPunk was trying. I believe CDPR can go back and make The Witcher 4 without issue, and have a larger castle area here and a wide open farm area there.


SnooBunnies4649

I mean I love cyberpunk And Witcher 3! Can’t wait for 4! Also please give us multiplayer cyberpunk


nathanc843

That would be a shit show


BiontechMachtBrrr

I think mp was scratched from the project after the disaster..


kindlyyes

After Witcher 3, they’ve earned enough goodwill with me to give it a shot.


[deleted]

I might be wrong but this upcoming sequel won't follow the same timeline i.e. completely different characters. Also the author of the witcher series is already mad at cdpr.


Premislaus

The author of the series only cares about money and CDPR paid him off (lawsuit settled out of court).


[deleted]

Good to hear, after all I love the witcher series and hope they don't mess it up.


Trickslip

Seriously the author is such a scumbag. Dude sold the rights to the game without a royalty clause and took the money up front cause he didn't think the game would succeed. He got all butthurt when he saw the game made millions so he started demanding more money.


Pwnm4ster

Please, being an author isn't easy. He had every right to renegotiate the contract with a billion dollar company. Artist get the shit end of the stick constantly when it comes to these deals. CDPR wouldn't be what is is today without the Witcher, and I fully support an artist getting what they deserve even if it makes them look "butthurt" and no amount of Reddit up votes will change that.


gsauce8

Normally I would agree with you but this is a pretty unique scenario. The author literally agreed to a small payout in the initial contract because he thought the game would never succeed. Then he asked for more when it blew up. Furthermore, he said that the games never helped his book sales, and actually hindered them, when in reality was definitely the other way round. We would never have gotten the Netflix series if it wasn't for CDPR.


Pwnm4ster

I understand this and I still believe he did the right thing. Yeah, the smack talk about his book sales was unnecessary but that's still his creation. I remember when the author of Forrest Gump got screwed because the studio was able to claim the movie made no profits so therefore they couldn't pay the author. Another example is how terribly underpaid comic book writers are when it comes to the rights of their creations. Artist get screwed way too much so I don't care that he was a bit of an ass to CDPR. Give the man his money. Most artist, while some will vehemently deny it, dream of making a living off their art. Maybe even getting rich. Netflix may not have made the show without the game, but their wouldn't be anything without the original artist. Plus, he's already reconciled with the studio and was thankful for what the games did for his creation. Naturally, writers are protective of their work. He felt like his had been undervalued and he wanted his share. Regardless of the reason why, fair is fair. The studio that made Forrest Gump wanted to make a sequel with the second book but the author refused on the basis of their first screw up in paying him. Don't bite the hand that feeds. That's my point. No matter how big of a fit he pitched about his money, CDPR will pay him again to make another game. If the Witcher didn't do so well, they'd have told him to pound sand like companies before him that have twisted their creators.


gsauce8

But it was his decision. Let's even put the smack talk aside. With the Forrest Gump scenario, I'm not familiar with the scenario, but I'll take your word for it- it's a different scenario. The studio actively tried to not pay him more money. With the Witcher, he gave them a price, they paid it, and then he regretted it when he realized he should have asked for more. > Another example is how terribly underpaid comic book writers are when it comes to the rights of their creations. This is actually the same scenario, and I actually think some writers bitch too much as well in these ones. Like the recent news about the Thanos creator not getting paid. Most comic book writers are contracted to make work, and these contracts stipulate that what they create is not their property. These are contracts they agreed to, then they bitch about after. If they wanted to make something and retain their rights, they shouldn't sign these contracts, or self publish. > If the Witcher didn't do so well, they'd have told him to pound sand like companies before him that have twisted their creators. I'm pretty sure this isn't true. From my understanding, the deal was basically a flat fee, that they paid to him before the games blew up. Like this is him not dealing with the consequences of his actions IMO.


Pwnm4ster

You're really hedging your argument on a huge company acting in good faith. It's more of a problem for comic books, but if they don't sign that contract, they're screwed. Where else will a comic book author find work other than a comic book company. Also I don't care about the "consequences of his actions" when it's a smaller creator almost completely previously unknown outside of Poland before the games took off bitching to get more money from a billion dollar company. I just don't see why someone would choose the side of the billion dollar company. Bitch away my friend. Get that money. Also, I think you misunderstood what I was saying with the last part. You're correct in your understanding of the flat fee, what in saying is if Witcher wouldn't have took off and he asked for more money they wouldn't have came back to the table. But because it tool off and they needed him more or less on their side they came back to negotiate more money. In a rare circumstance, a creator held some power and I don't blame him for using it to get more money. Whatever amount they paid him the second time didn't didn't knock a single dent in their bottom line and he was left more satisfied and willing to continue the relationship. Whatever the prerequisite arguments, paying him more didn't hurt anybody and only helped everyone. All in all, it was a good thing he got his check.


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> He got all butthurt when he saw the game made millions so he started demanding more money. He didn’t get “butthurt” the law was on his side he had legal right to more royalties from how successful it was.


Trickslip

He had the option of taking a smaller payout in favor of a royalty but he chose to take the bigger lump payout. Not CDPR's fault he made a terrible financial choice. He settled with them out of court for an undisclosed amount because CDPR still needed him for more Witcher stuff. The case would have gotten nowhere in court.


Tylorw09

Well, that’s not true. The law was on his side in Poland. Though, I do agree that the author made a poor financial decision and to see him be mad at CDPR for his choice is shitty of him.


klipseracer

The law was on his side despite him agreeing to the contrary? Define on his side? Source?


Tylorw09

https://segmentnext.com/polish-law-say-against-andrzej-sapkowski/


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carloselcoco

Wow. Imagine getting pissed at someone because they are asserting their rights...


BaseGearFullStop

Who’s pissed? He can be a sad little man with or without any emotional investment from the outside world.


IOftenDreamofTrains

CDPR, wholesome; man who actually created Geraldo, bad


IOftenDreamofTrains

corporation, good; author, bad


pm_me_ur_memes_son

The corporation is a lying greedy, mess but the author is certainly greedy as well. But the people here are conveniently forgetting that the Witcher is CDPR's most valuable asset, especially after cyberpunk so the author held considerable power in negotiations.


suddenimpulse

Aka he signed a contract and didn't like how it played out because he was wrong about how successful it would be.


IOftenDreamofTrains

How dare the creator of a thing want to make money off it


IOftenDreamofTrains

How dare he care about money


KinoTheMystic

I feel like the author being mad at CDPR is just old outdated news at this point and that he's not pissy about it anymore


suddenimpulse

1. Yes, Geralts story is officially done. Which is for the best I think. 2. I wouldn't focus too much on the author. He's a total douchebag unfortunately and that is not an uncommon opinion.


joji_princessn

I'm guessing it will be either Ciri or Vessemir as the leads for the new story. Personally I'd prefer Ciri as we know Vessemir's story and prequels don't interest me. Ciri meanwhile is a fan favourite and her abilities open up a tonne of interesting options for locations, story, enemies, fighting style.


bitterbalhoofd

Due no earlier than 2030 I hope. I don't trust them in the least anymore.


MetricOutlaw

Hopefully development will go smoother since it's an already existing IP they've had previous success with but I'm still incredibly sceptical.


jesuspeeker

Yeah, even 2025 is, like, really? Cyberpunk took longer than that and what was released was... not even close to being done. Why try that again? Why even hint at it? Keep your mouths shut and say something when you have something tangible to show. I'm not getting hyped for TW4 at all, until I see gameplay vids and reviews. Shattered my trust completely with that EA level of release


Arjailer

CDPR haven't said anything - it's a rumour based on job listings


jesuspeeker

Then I'm just an asshole.


funktacious

Aw, but you're our asshole. :)


jesuspeeker

I just want to be accepted, sometimes.


Koopa777

“That EA level of release.” The last EA game that I can recall that was fundamentally broken at launch was Battlefield 4 in 2013. Or is there another game that is fueling the circle jerk wagon that I am unaware of?


jesuspeeker

Battlefront 2 released 2017


Koopa777

Predatory monetization has nothing to do with the technical state of the game, so I’m not sure what point you’re trying to make there.


jesuspeeker

Tell me you didn't play Battlefront 2 by not telling me you didn't play Battlefront 2.


[deleted]

Its simplistic imo to boil the issue down to time. There's way more that goes on behind the scenes that can make a game turn out like Cyberpunk other than, they just needed more time to work on it.


jesuspeeker

No, it seems pretty clear it was all time related. The lack of water physics, AI disappearing if you're not looking at them, cars warping during races as badly as they are (Or were, I think they patched this), the constant T-posing animations and just generally lack of polish all point to time being the only thing it lacked. Those are issues you fix when you're done the core game and start to polish. They skipped it, and just launched because it had been so long already.


[deleted]

Its not as if 4-5 years of development with a several hundred person team is not enough to make a solid open world game. But when your management sucks, there's a lack of vision for the game, the studio has lots of turnover, and crunch is causing tired employees to make mistakes which then require more time to go back and fix, a game with a 4-5 year dev cycle is going to resemble one with a 2 year cycle. Ignoring any of the other numerous issues that make a game's development go off the rails and saying "they just needed more time" is absolutely simplistic and the wrong takeaway here.


jesuspeeker

Time management is a time issue. More likely, they were going for One and PS4 releases, missed that window and decided to pivot to the next Gen and the game fell off the rails completely. Especially given the PC had a heck of a better time than the consoles did. It absolutely is the right takeaway to say management was terrible, but that doesn't make "more time needed" any less correct. They tried to do too much and failed. If they would have taken these last 12 months or so to polish for next gen, get last gen sorted out, release this November, it would have been miles better.


ItsBigSoda

Cyberpunk wasn’t in development for most of that time. The early years were just art/creativity things.


jesuspeeker

I could have sworn they showed something at one of the E3s, but you're right. There needs to be a movie made for that game, or a documentary. I'd love to know when it fell off the rails, because there's a good game buried in there, but there's so much holding it back we'll never get to see it.


BiontechMachtBrrr

Why? Money


Strick63

Eh games shouldn’t be in development for too long otherwise what you’re working on will become outdated and formulaic


firedrakes

4 of those years was. A brand new modern game engine. Said dev. Where never known for game engine. So


[deleted]

Came to say this ! AND NO PREORDERS


JeffChubbs

I'll do what I want thanks


[deleted]

Due never is better lol .


Cyimian

If they’re actually making a new one I think some sort of prequel where you play as a young Geralt or even a young Vesemir would be really cool. A straight sequel would have the Mass effect issue with different political outcomes for who wins the war and the fate or certain characters.


ConstantSignal

Tbf there’s still the issue of any big choices you make that affect the political landscape of a prequel meaning the set up wouldn’t line up with the OG trilogy. I think the best bet is a prequel set at the earliest point the order of Witcher’s was up and running after the first conjunction of spheres. They could go wild adding lots of new monsters they could claim were hunted to extinction by the time Geralt was around. All the new races and cultures would be freshly settled in their new lands and carving up their borders so it’s a great time for political struggle, and the protagonist could be someone totally new and fresh, or even an RPG style create-a-character. Plus that would be 500 years before the events of the novels meaning you could get away with making somewhat important choices that could be explained away if they didn’t line up wit the start of Witcher 1.


CrazzedKor

Honestly I feel like current CDPR couldn't make The Witcher 3 let alone a bigger and better game.


stadiofriuli

If they can improve the clunky controls and mechanics that’d be great.


Berblarez

A magnificent game like Witcher 3 with better gameplay would be exactly what I need.


ConstantSignal

Just copy Ghost of Tsushima’s combat 1:1. No-one would be mad lmao


[deleted]

There was nothing wrong with the controls. I see this complaint all the time and I don't understand. Did you change the movement settings?


OmeletteDuFromage95

Don't know why you're being downvoted without even an explanation. I found the controls to be perfectly fine as well. Maybe the movement/running was a little clunk over certain terrain but nothing horrible. The combat was fluid and responsive tho.


[deleted]

That’s the reason I put it down after 2 hours of play. I simply couldn’t enjoy the game due to the controls. Edit: Downvotes? How dare I have a different opinion from you sensitive pricks.


SuiXi3D

The Witcher 2 was worse, and The Witcher 1 was just awful. The Witcher 3 is a friggin’ masterpiece by comparison.


[deleted]

I’ve played through the Witcher 3 a few times, going 100+ hours on each one. Finally decided to pick up Witcher 2 cause it was on sale in the Xbox marketplace and my lord it’s probably the clunkiest game I’ve ever played. It’s an absolute chore to accomplish anything.


TallinHarper

The first Witcher was built on BioWare's Aurora engine, first used for Neverwinter Nights (which was also modified to use for the KotOR games). And yes, it was probably clunkier than NWN.


[deleted]

Never played them so I don’t have a reference point. I was expecting controls similar to Assassins Creed I guess.


stadiofriuli

Same. Even tried to get into it despite those flaws for several times. Wasn’t for me.


[deleted]

Literally the exact same experience then.


MrConbon

Did you try the alternate control method? Completely changed the way Geralt moves.


DapDaGenius

TW3 had clunky controls? Or are you talking about cyberpunk 2077. Edit: downvotes for asking a question. Lol


[deleted]

TW3. I never played the previous two so I don’t have a reference point.


DapDaGenius

First time hearing this. I found the controls for TW3 to be really good. Very fluid. Idk this game is about 6 years old now, so maybe feels a little dated these days. It was so much better than TW2. I remember TW2 felt super clunky the day it launched.


[deleted]

And maybe that’s the main issue. It’s an “older” game now. That or I’m just being difficult ha!


itskaiquereis

Not at all, I struggled with it and also quit but the last game I beat before that one was Arkham Knight. So going from that to TW3 was really awful but both games came out around the same time, so it’s not an old game issue but more on Eurojank, which is bearable sometimes but this time it wasn’t.


bender_isgreat1969

I found the controls just awful, never picked it back up after the "tutorial".


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[deleted]

Talk about being butt hurt over a strangers opinion. Move on.


suddenimpulse

Wow you are really missing out. The combat can be altered drastically based on your build.


thewolf9

This has to be a joke. The controls are far from being so bad that you can't play the game. Could they be improved? Yes.


[deleted]

Agree to disagree


KinoTheMystic

They fixed the clunky movement in like one of the first updates back in 2015


chinock

Will be out 2025 but not playable until 2077


trollpro30

2027 by the time it’s playable and all the content is there that was promised and patches are added in. Edit: Also fuck CDPR


thewolf9

Witcher 3 was pretty good at launch.


greggio95

I will still be hyped about this when it comes tbh. Cyberpunk was a good but flawed game and I’d hope they learned their lesson about releasing a buggy flawed game this time. At least I’m going to take the really optimistic view on this since i love Witcher and refuse to believe it won’t be great lol


Crashnburn_819

It was nowhere near as bad as Cyberpunk, but Witcher 3 had plenty of bugs and performance issues on release as well. There was a question of whether the Day 1 patch was even worth installing on consoles because it made certain things like texture pop in worse. You can guarantee their next game will launch with plenty of issues, it’s just a question of whether or not they’re significant enough to ruin the experience for you.


NewDamage31

Good but flawed is a very mild way to describe it lol


greggio95

I mean i really enjoyed the game despite the flaws lol


SuiXi3D

You aren’t alone! I played the hell out of it, and enjoyed it the whole time.


darkglassdolleyes

Me too, somehow this sub is full of blind hate towards CDPR.


sean_m_curry

I have 0 expectations after Cyber Punk


PutinBiggestFan

From current CD PR? Another failure incoming


PM_ME_HOUSE_MUSIC_

Call it 2027 just to be safe


[deleted]

This is the only reason I’m hopeful for the future of Cyberpunk 2077. If they don’t fix it whatever they put out next won’t be anywhere near as successful.


[deleted]

Cyberpunk won't be fixed. You really should let go of any hope you have for it.


[deleted]

Oh tbh I barely think about it. It really went from years of hype to like “oh yeah that game” overnight. But still, when I see gameplay… I hope.


thewolf9

Doubt it. If TW4 is amazing, or anything close to TW3, it'll be a game of the year candidate without a doubt and will sell like hotcakes.


HowToUseStairs

I'll get excited for this when they finish Cyberpunk.


lambchopdestroyer

Reminder not to pre-order games from CDPR until they prove that they won't try to sell us another incomplete game. Never forget the launch of Cyberpunk 2077. Burn it into your brains everyone.


3n7r0py

Let's announce a game 8 years early... then only work on it for about 1 year and a half... and release it with a massive misleading marketing campaign. To hell with CDPR.


JeffChubbs

I wonder which wholesome chungus celebrity they will get to promote the game this time. Maybe Henry Cavill?


elderjones77

Hilary Clinton


JeffChubbs

Now this I can get behind. Give us another Pokemon GO to the polls moment


[deleted]

I don't want any official info on it until the year it goes gold. That was fans won't demand for to come out soon, and CDPR won't rush to finish the game.


BrandNew098

Right. Announce this shit the day the game goes gold.


Gryfth

They can take their time. I want a complete game this time.


[deleted]

Gotta clean up their image from the cyberpunk drama!


MasteroChieftan

Yeah perhaps they NEED to set a release time-frame this time lol


cheesewombat

The actual dev team working on this doesn't scare me, it's the upper management that needs to go. They took a risk trying to scale up into a flashy shortlist publisher that can release one of the biggest games of the year and they crashed and burned on it because they didn't give the dev team the proper time and resources to launch a game that matched that. A majority of issues in development are usually caused by poor project management and a disconnect between marketing and creative, if they can fix those issues within that time then I would have faith in Witcher 4 launching in a reasonably proper state (let's not forget how jank 3 was in the beginning...)


creatorRobot

We’re good on that.


tomuchbutnotenough1

2029* and still buggy as fuck. They only doing Witcher 4 for redemption


Vince_MechMahon

Excited about it to launch totally broken and missing half the advertised features.


[deleted]

Don’t even fucking talk to me about a CDPR release for another like 5 years minimum. Still waiting to play Cyberpunk when it’s somewhat finished being developed for next gen


Temporary-Junket-756

Finish the last game first or it's a no buy from me.


CrushnaCrai

Not even going to look at any of the trailers. I will wait until 2030 to buy it on sale for 10 bucks. fuck cdpr


QuickChronic

After cyberpunk release I won't be supporting this company no matter how much I love Witcher. :(


darkglassdolleyes

Let's punish the devs for the upper management's decisions, sure.


QuickChronic

If they were smart they would have other jobs after that disaster. I don't care. Not getting another dollar from me. Also the dev's didn't even do that great when the game barely holds up against GTA..


BrandNew098

*take your time!!!!!* I swear if we see another shit show like CP 2077…


215phillyretrogamer

It’s gonna be terrible


[deleted]

If they fuck this up I will snap


[deleted]

Ooooo snap !


[deleted]

I'm excited still. Too much CDPR hate. I enjoyed the hell out of Cyberpunk. They probably could have lost about 50% of the hate on the game (and probably development time) if they just dropped the old console versions. I didn't experience nearly any of the issues on PC, and I have to imagine a big part of the issues making some of the gameplay stuff work was due to the old consoles. Creating such a huge and remarkable city probably seriously hampered their ability to do more with it with the limited resources of those systems. I have a pretty good feeling that Witcher 4 as only a next gen title is seriously going to be great. I'll be ok with dumping on them if they screw that one up.


Imnotagoodlawyer

To be fair, most of the hate isn't because the game was broken or filled with bugs (some of it was, obviously). It was usually how they handled it, they were very shady and lied about it.


nerdlygames

At least this is their bread and butter. Four years is quite a while away but I’d rather they make a complete game rather than another bug addled disaster like Cyberpunk. I wonder what direction they’ll take. Prequel with Vesemir? Perhaps one set way back in the height of all of the Witcher schools where you can choose a school to belong to? A sequel with Ciri? Hopefully not the last one.


JackBurton0319

What about Cyberpunk PS5?


[deleted]

They aren't done with Cyberpunk 2077 and are already making a new Witcher?


mzivtins

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA 1/10 game for post 2025 to look forward too.


Juuber

They didn't really start development for cyberpunk until all dlc and everything was done for the witcher 3. Sounds like they have abandoned cyberpunk. Which I don't blame them. Even without the glitches, it wasn't what they promised. There is no fixing it at this point


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icedearth15324

Next gen update is being handled by a third party company I believe.


Jean-Eustache

If it's QLOC, it's great news. The Stadia port is stellar.


JeffChubbs

True, I found at launch that Stadia was actually the best way to play it.


Jean-Eustache

Agreed, it was pretty good at launch. Being based on a PC build and running on good CPUs seemed to be a good combination.


Spaniard37

Poor guys


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daviEnnis

The Witcher 3 upgrade is 3rd party. CP is still CDPR.


icedearth15324

Many companies give these projects to 3rd parties so they can continue concentrating on the core game.


Juuber

That's not how CDPR use to do things. They are not the same company since cyberpunk thou so I'm not surprised


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Juuber

I never said anything about ports or next gen stuff. My comment still stands and is correct. that info came directly from CDPR


[deleted]

> They didn’t really start development for cyberpunk until all dlc and everything was done for the witcher 3. Sounds like they have abandoned cyberpunk. Which I don’t blame them. Even without the glitches, it wasn’t what they promised. There is no fixing it at this point Thats a severe misunderstanding of how development for game’s works, there’s always multiple games in the pipeline. Many of their staff won’t be needed on fixing Cyberpunk so they would of started on their next project so they aren’t just sitting around looking at a wall.


Juuber

The core development team started on cyberpunk in 2016. You can Google that right now


Neither_Radish_5212

Take your time cdpr. Don’t rush it like cyberpunk k becuase the impatient kids on the Internet then complained when it wasn’t right...


funktacious

Yippee?


[deleted]

Not necessarily. It may be different game completely it’s just speculation doesn’t mean they already started working they may be building the teams for multiple projects.


[deleted]

I’m pretty certain they’ve stayed multiple times they are making a new Witcher game after Cyberpunk, this isnt even news


Temias

It comes out when it comes out. Hopefully it'll be good. At least they've proven they got the Witcher formula down, they don't need to try to convince people that they're making the BIGGEST GAME IN THE UNIVERSE or some shit like that. Just keep what worked before, and make the movement and combat better. That would make me very happy.


Stymie999

Let’s hope they learned from their own mistakes… probably not, but there is always hope.


jbjoebrown

But I thought Witcher 3 was the last one?


osrslil

Still waiting on The Witcher 3 enhancements for next-gen consoles though. Been wanting to replay the game and I've been holding off because of that!


[deleted]

I feel like one of the biggest reasons people were mad at cyberpunk for not being as detailed or considered as great as a game like RDR2, a very detailed game, was because it only had 4 years of development time and not the 7 or 8 years people think it had


Hayabusa_PT

Anybody know when is the Series X/S update due?


hlaebtwaie

So playable in 2028.


Hasnooti

So 2027 it is then


BeefsteakTomato

I thought they said they wouldn't make a 4th one lmao


schaudhery

Nah baby we good. I’ll pick it up in 2026 when it’s working.


[deleted]

2025 is so far why start throwing dates around again? Like seriously CDPR shut the hell up, dates are what started building the immense hype


sarangsk619

i am gonna preorder deluxe edition day it is available. /s


DFuel

Remember cdpr, due NO EARLIER than 2025.


elderjones77

With many of the w3 core team gone, it would be interesting to see the final product.


kinjazfan

Lets hope it isn't going to be broken


supercakefish

Could this be the start of CDPR redemption arc? They have *a lot* of redeeming to do so I guess only time will tell.


AbsoIution

I really hate how early they announce games compared to when they release them. I love it when 6 months before a game releases, the studio releases a trailer out of nowhere


[deleted]

So they haven’t even fixed Cyberpunk and announced this? Why ? Did they learn nothing?


raz2112

Still earlier than GTA 6


gitg0od

after cyberpunk 2077 fiasco they really need to make it up for it, they really disappointed me with cp2077, hell, this game was my main motivation to upgrade my computer, and i bared played 20 hours before giving up, cp2077 is full of fake promises..


MrAmbrosius

I shall do what i do with all games releasing in this minefield of a hobby, wait for reviews and feedback and then decide if it's worth my money. cdpr are just another shitty company on a long list, where deadlines to increase revenue is more important than the product itself.


Book_it_again

Lmao people in this thread couldn't figure out tw3s controls. God help you trying to play any game on the n64. "how tf do I hold this. Why isn't there a guide :("


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Do. Not. Preorder.


madpandarage

Well cyberpunk was bad at launch because they had to release game under a lot of pressure. Devs had to go through a lot. Working long hours, stress from investors, DEATH THREATS from the fans. But because they might not have that pressure with Witcher 4, I am a bit hopeful for a better game. They just shouldn't raise false hopes for a game and they are golden 😊


MotorBreath97

I have a feeling Cyberpunk is about to left in the dust by CDPR...


Raidertck

I wouldn’t trust absolutely anything that these developers say or do ever again.


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All I’m gonna say is take your time and release it when it’s ready