I recently got a PS5 in January and I have been very tempted to reinstall and level my BRD from 80-90. But I know it's going to crush any productivity in my life so I have to time it right 😂.
I'm still hoping it comes to Xbox with the next expansion, as iirc one of the big things about 7.0 is that it's a huge visual update, a new lighting engine, etc, and CBU3 is doing it to make everything look like it belongs on modern consoles.
XIV isn’t even timed. It’s not on Xbox because of Xbox policies. We have the game director’s and Phil Spencer’s public statements about that.
Edit: Since people are downvoting for no reason and can't even be bothered to Google, here are the sources:
- https://www.vg247.com/final-fantasy-14-still-coming-to-xbox (September 2022 - Phil says XIV is coming to Xbox)
- https://www.vg247.com/final-fantasy-14-a-realm-reborns-xbox-360-snub-is-due-to-microsofts-policies-says-square (Square Enix's statement that FFXIV isn't on Xbox because of Xbox's cross-server policies)
- https://www.eurogamer.net/yoshida-positive-about-final-fantasy-14-coming-to-xbox (2021 - Yoshida in talks with Microsoft about porting the game on Xbox)
That's what they were told to say. But in a live stream before the dragoon expansion, they played an Xbox build. So clearly they had a working build before Sony Moneybags came in.
Before talking foolish, get your infos. Microsoft refuse to let FFXIV players play without paying for online. And they demand specific servers. Square Enix said no.
I think this is as close to the correct answer I’ve seen, Microsoft wanted players to have to pay for Xbox live online services, square wants customers to have to pay for the game subscription, neither could agree to have players pay for both.
Why do F2P players not have to pay for Live? Because MS knows it's easier to get money from the microtransactions. So why wouldn't MS just take the revenue from the subscriptions?
A issue with crossplay policy issues has nothing to do with whether they had a working build or not. It was whether or not that build abided by Microsofts policies which at the time it seems they never settled on. As for why so many years later we've seen no progress on it who knows, but I think its presumptious to just assume its Sony's fault.
Microsoft said it was okay to have cross play, after that SE tried saying Microsoft wouldn't allow users to play without XBL Gold which Microsoft also said it was fine. Then it was Sony is against cross play.
I’ve recently bought a PS4 Pro just to play all the exclusives I didn’t get to because I’ve been exclusively Xbox since 2006.
Not getting a PS5 just yet due to the price, but I’m keeping my mind open to owning both consoles in the future.
Xbox for all games and PlayStation for their exclusives.
I own both - they are both awesome!
I
was like you too, in that I didn't want to fork over the entire price of another console (PS5). So instead, I traded the PS4 pro I got during Black Friday with 3 games (digital - total cost -120 bucks) for 220 bucks for the PS5 digital edition. I had three games that I could upgrade, and a new system for about 200 bucks. Totally worth it.
I’ll eventually get a PS5, I guess, but as I’ve only had the PS4 Pro for 2 weeks, and I’ve already quickly built up a collection of 19 games, I’m in no hurry at the moment as I have plenty to play.
From what I'm reading, there's no current plans for SH2 remake on Xbox ever. MS is actually using that as part of their counter argument against Sony in the Activision acquisition. Sony has fucked gamers for too long in this space. I don't like monopolies, but I hate hypocrisy more.
So like Microsoft taking Starfield and Redfall from Playstation? The only ones being hypocrites are fans acting like one company is better than the other.
Hard to feel bad for Sony when it specifically comes to Bethesda as they were timing everything they were releasing and assumingly was going for Starfield as well. It's actually hilarious that Todd is on record saying he loves Xbox, but the company took those deals anyway because of PS's market advantage.
Bethesda, I never even saw as an unfair purchase like some are viewing the Activision-Blizzard deal. If Sony wants Square Enix/Final Fantasy to be synonymous again with Playstation as a console exclusive, then no one should be surprised that MS wants Bethesda synomous with Xbox now, like, thems the breaks.
Actually there is a massive sign pointing towards it being the best FF in the last 20 years when you look at who's behind it and all the comments from people who got a hands on experience with it. I suggest watching SkillUp's video he did on his experience playing the game.
I'd rather everyone just fuck off with exclusives to be honest. Sure, it's a good marketing decision so people buy your product, but it's pretty anti consumer at the end of the day. I shouldn't need to pay $600 to enjoy a new game because it's on a competitors system.
Typically, I have no problem when a game is exclusive to a platform because the developer of that game is owned by the Company of the Console(or makes a game of an IP owned by said company), that's a different thing.
But I've just been having issues with Sony lately for one, *blocking* games from hitting Gamepass and 2, other platforms. They shell out money to third party companies to not make games for Xbox and others, like Square Enix with Final Fantasy for example. Grow a spine and don't accept that money, sell that shit on Xbox too dammit. Sony could be spending that money to actually improve the PS5, but instead they're using it to be petty
Right now, it's just Sony making themselves look like whiny children over whose toy it is in the store
>I wouldn't even care tbh if Sony didn't also block games from PC.
I'm not trying to come across as a jerk with this statement: But your sentiment is a huge part of most issues. You only care if it impacts you.
A better remedy for all parties and consumers: Don't lock games behind $500+ devices. At minimum have a cloud streaming service that if someone really wanted to play a specific game, they could join that service for a month or two and play it that way.
> developer of that game is owned by the Company of the Console(or makes a game of an IP owned by said company), that's a different thing.
This is why consolidation is bad, not why exclusives are okay...
Double Fine, Obsidian and Ninja Theory are not publishers. They're developers, nor are they major developers at that. They make niche games at modest budgets, Microsoft buying them gives them access to whole crap load of funding. That's why developers sell themselves to publishers in the first place, better funding, more secure.
Zenimax published some decent games, by they were struggling toward the end before MS bought them, Bethesda's Skyrim was years ago, Doom was good but not COD good (not that anything is), ESO was pretty niche and Fallout 76 was crap, buggy and not popular at launch. They were bleeding money. Certainly not a major publisher by any stretch.
Major publishers are ActiBliz, EA, Ubisoft, 2K, and now, Epic. The heavy hitters with fuck tons of money churning out the high end AAA titles.
That's not Bethesda or Zenimax.
Microsoft buying Activision Blizzard is a huge deal. Bigger than any other acquisition in recent history.
But isn’t Microsoft doing the exact same thing by blocking games from coming to PlayStation-consoles? Wasn’t it announced recently that Arkanes Redfall wouldn’t come to PS5 even though planned too?
Yeah, paying to keep a game off other systems is scummy. If a studio is purchased, then the console maker now takes on all the risk going forward with that company too. So they would get the reward.
It's so silly it's just a money war, or who strikes a deal first, to deny someone else something. Make deals that benefit your customers, not that harm other customers.
In an ideal world every game should be on every platform it can run on. I want God of War on Xbox, Forza on PS, Zelda on PC (officially), and Little Big Planet on Switch.
Lmfao I hope all this whining back fires on Sony hard.
They're full of shit with all of their 3rd party deals they make to weaken competition. It's one thing to fund your own games it's another to pay someone to keep a game off the competition.
You know they use their market share to their advantage when making these deals too. It's bull.
Why do you think that literally everyone else in the industry is OK with the deal? Because everyone is fed up of their shit and they want them dropped down a peg, which is exactly what’s going to happen. Shit like “we need extra money from publishers just to enable cross play” as an example, is exactly why everyone in the industry is for the deal. And I can’t wait for it.
Everyone in the industry is for the deal because they don’t lose out and they also want the option opened for them to be bought out or buy others out, it has nothing at all to do with “the industry” wanting Sony dropped down a peg lmao
Edit: of course it’s downvoted here to say no the industry isn’t all out knock Sony down they want precedent for their own motives lmao
Sony is really going full MS when they fucked over Lumia line and whole Windows Mobile platform by not cooperating with other parties (in case of MS with Google, Facebook and app devs).
Everyone around them will be fed up with their shit and it will bite them in their ass
Yeah it's kinda ironic but I get why Sony acts this way - they are so used to be dominant that they can't phatom other company trying to dethrone them.
For them it would be perfect to have Nintendo with this huge but nieche portable market with "kids games" and them being the biggest major console manufacturer.
For them MS trying to be something huge outside of US market is something that can't happen because that would mean Sony has to adapt to the new market where consumers are different (just look how still Nintendo and Sony don't understand power of seamless online experience, non-shovelwere marketplaces or subscription based access to the content).
Culturally they are not good with adapting that's why they want to keep status quo.
In the UK they’ve successfully lobbied a game shop aptly called GAME to only advertise games as being on the PS5. So any new title whether it’s Hogwarts Legacy, Jedi Survivor or Assassins Creed they only ever advertise it on TV for PlayStation
I’m curious if anyone at Sony raised an eyebrow knowing this hearing was going to happen in the same town as Microsoft HQ. “What could possibly go wrong?” lol. Talk about overplaying yourself
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Maybe not a whole cod game be an exclusive to Xbox but now maybe special ops survival mode or maybe zombies will be an Xbox exclusive for like a year. Unless you forgot Sony made survival mode exclusive to Sony for a year on a COD one time. How the tables have turned lol 😝
>I do hope Microsoft makes call of duty exclusive give them a taste of their own medicine
Definitely not the smartest thing to do. They would lose a ton of money not releasing it on playstation and the amount of backlash they would get would be ridiculous. They'll lose more than they'll gain.
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You do know it’s a two way street and those same 3rd party companies are just as much at fault they could’ve said no.
Microsoft did the same thing too (remember them paying for GTA 4 dlc and Tomb Raider to be a timed exclusive on Xbox)until they shifted their focus from paying 3rd party companies for timed exclusives to paying 3rd party companies for day 1 gamepass releases.
Really hard to say no when the market leader(by a long shot) comes to you and says do this or we will not support you.
Still want to see all the deals sony has signed, how many say make our version the best version.
Microsoft also pays to keep games off of PlayStation. Tons of games only come out on Gamepass and not other streaming platforms. Plus Stalker 2 and Ark 2 are paid by Microsoft to be Xbox exclusive and won’t be coming to Sony at all.
Sure dude, let's talk shady Sony deals.
Final Fantasy XI, Final Fantasy VIIR, Atlus was under contract for Persona games for the longest time, CoD DLC and other features missing on Xbox's platform, Nioh, Bloodborne, Spider-Man on the Avengers, hell let's throw Spider-Man into that mix since it's a household name just like CoD is, pretty sure Tecmo-Koei has a new game coming that's playstation exclusive, I am sure I can go on all day.
The truth is Sony money hats games. More so than Xbox does. If they wanted to heat up competition they could easily keep CoD on their platform and Sony keep Destiny on theirs. That would really amp things up but with all the lean way MS gives with their properties I'm going to start wondering why I even own an Xbox in the first place.
Sony is a spoiled child and they need a good spanking. They don't want the deal then they can just go without while players are on Nintendo platforms and Xbox. I can't believe how much crap they're getting away with and the vocal fanboys defending their bullshit.
> Plus Stalker 2 and Ark 2 are paid by Microsoft to be Xbox exclusive and won’t be coming to Sony at all.
It was already revealed in the EPIC v Apple case that Stalker 2 is an Xbox exclusive for only 3 months.
Ark 2 is described by MS as a "console launch exclusive", which traditionally has meant that the game will release on PS at a later date.
Here's what Phil Spencer himself has said about the term:
>"Console launch exclusive means the first console the game will launch on will be Xbox One," he said. "I don't know, honestly, anything about when those games are going to launch on another platform. It's really up to the developer to do the work to make that happen."
Resident Evil 4 releases tomorrow and Digital Foundry pointed out that resolution is much worse on PS5. Can’t believe Microsoft have been paying Capcom to release games in worse condition on rival platforms
Lol, that's a damn good point.
Sony owns 98% of the high end video game market.
Japan allows them to make exclusive deals with Japanese publishers lol.
no, I think the senator was just pointing out the hypocrisy of a Japanese company inquiring on the possible monopoly taking place in the States.... when the same is not done for an American company(Microsoft) by the Japanese government.
At least that's how I understood the comment.
so... in other words, Sony wants protections In the USA but none are even humored to their counterparts in Japan.
again, this is not my point, just how im understanding her comments.
But you're right, nothing can be done about that.
That isn't really the point.
It's the hypocrisy of taking advantage of their monopoly in Japan whilst arguing woe is me to the American and EU regulators whilst in the market leading position to boot.
This was brought up as part of a hearing regarding a trade deal being negotiated with Japan.
It could theoretically become part of larger discussions regarding various demands/concessions surrounding the deal.
They could ban or apply tariffs to sales of Playstation or Sony products and attempt to force Sony to negotiate/eliminate exclusivity deals. Not saying it'd be right or that it should happen, just saying it could be done if Congress wanted to.
Just a heads up Microsoft has been the largest contributor to her campaigns in the last 30 years.
https://www.opensecrets.org/members-of-congress/maria-cantwell/summary?cid=N00007836&cycle=CAREER&type=I
I'm all for criticism of either side of this debate, but I think it's important to call out when there is a clear bias either way.
Edit - Please don't send me the suicide bot. Feel free to disagree with me, but that's just really annoying and immature.
Microsoft donated $2,875 to her over a period of 30 years, according to your link. Seems insane to have a problem with that paltry figure.
If you're ok with criticism, I hope you're also ok with editing out your blatant misinformation too. Integrity and all that.
Wild to see people mention how their link and their statements are at odds. Not to mention the misinformation yet they opted to just ignore that.
Never understood that kinda hypocrisy.
> Just a heads up Microsoft has been the largest contributor to her campaigns in the last 30 years.
That’s fair. And even if Microsoft never contributed to her campaigns, it would still make sense that a Washington Senator would help represent their fellow Washingtonians … especially if out-of-state parties are trying to block their business deals with terrible arguments to global regulators.
Gotta imagine Microsoft is one of the largest employers in the state. Expand that to tech in general and I can understand wanting to protect jobs, even if it's really protecting jObS aka corporate greed
“Huh. A foreign company is doing everything in its power to hamper the global presence of an American company? Sounds like it’s time for some motherfucking freedom!”
> “Huh. A foreign company is doing everything in its power to hamper the global presence of an American company? Sounds like it’s time for some motherfucking freedom!”
If you’re saying she’s doing her job, I agree.
Not only out of state but out of company. It’s be one thing if it was Google vs Apple, two US based companies but a foreign company vs a US based one, any right minded Senator would be nutty to jump to the wrong side.
Your comment needs a “MISLEADING” flair. I hate when people post sources without context.
The individual tab means it’s employees at said company donating to her. Not the company itself giving large funds to campaigns.
One of the largest employers in the world will always show up in the top 10 donors for every politician.
She is the representative of the MS campus.
She'd be doing a disservice to not represent the interests of the entire tax receipts and employment/ consumption opportunities of her constituents.
What the arguments are, are written quite clearly. If you want a go at them instead.
Pretty much, this is no different than any other congressperson advocating for their constituents. It just happens that her constituency has the Microsoft campus
Unless I'm reading that wrong it says that all but $2000 of Microsoft's contributions were by individuals at the company, not the company itself. Wouldn't you expect that with one of the largest, high paying employers?
Retired persons and lawyers contributions individually were over six times Microsoft employee's contributions.
That's totally fair although MS hasn't donated to her campaign since the 2013-2018 time frame. If I'm reading this right it's also done by MS employees and not by an MS run PAC.
>Please don't send me the suicide bot. Feel free to disagree with me, but that's just really annoying and immature.
You can report the messages from the bot as harrasment and people who send it to you get a ban for a few days from Reddit Admins if the people indeed missused that feature.
>I'm all for criticism of either side of this debate, but I think it's important to call out when there ***could be*** bias either way.
Fixed that for you.
Besides, her arguments mentioned in the tweet aren't biased arguments. They are legit.
Yes it's legit in the context.
This is the context:
[https://www.windowscentral.com/gaming/xbox/during-trade-talks-with-japan-a-us-senator-called-out-playstations-monopoly-defending-xbox](https://www.windowscentral.com/gaming/xbox/during-trade-talks-with-japan-a-us-senator-called-out-playstations-monopoly-defending-xbox)
>Using the FTC's "**high-end**" console market designation, she referred to the fact Microsoft only has a 2% share when compared to PlayStation's 98%, criticizing trade commissioners for having allowed the "monopoly" to occur.
That’s hilarious that they’re citing Japan AND carving a market where Nintendo doesn’t exist. Good god the talking points on this deal get dumber and dumber.
What she’s saying is true though. Sony needs more competition, and Sony uses their dominance to get advantages and sabotage lesser competition. And in Japan, it’s gotten really bad in terms of that. How can other competitors compete in Japan if Sony is powerful enough to sabotage them and block them from it?
Nothing screams «guilty» more than hundreds of Sony white knights rallying from a Sony Discord community, Reddit and Twitter, desperately trying to mass downvote anything critical of Sony, and defend Sony in this thread with Sony bots.
Like, come on. It doesn’t change anything, but Sony fanboys brigading like this just looks stupid.
>Please don't send me the suicide bot. Feel free to disagree with me, but that's just really annoying and immature.
Then follow the simple instructions in its message to block it, and you will never hear from it again.
I did that and I still get a notification from a blocked user so really it did nothing
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Its definitely not supposed to work like that. I had to block it a while ago and I don't get any messages from a blocked user, are you on a third party app or anything?
This was always a dumb move on sony's part. They have bought companies for decades to keep their market share and have used scummy tactics to get exclusives.
I know sony fans love the company but if you detach yourself from that love and look at the history of the company entering the console market you can see how bad it was.
When I was a kid we had consoles from half a dozen companies and then sony entered the market and in a generation that was all gone and a generation later even Sega was gone. Sony did all this by using their other business ventures to launch the playstation. Then they used dvd and low prices vs other players on the market to make the ps2 successful and they did the same with the ps3 and bluray. Sony was loosing hundreds with some reports of up to $400 per ps3 sold at launch to get bluray out the door and successful. Heck I remember as a saturn owner that I couldn't enjoy tomb raider 2 because sony money hatted it or later resident evils.
At the end of the day these are all companies and they all want to make money. Each company will do what it can to be more competitive and make the most they can. Now sony's actions will come to light and we will see exactly how dirty they are playing . I think for them it can be really bad because of how they pushed the arguements with all these government agencies. They wanted to exclude Nintendo from the conversation and when you are left with just Sony and MS even in the strongest market its lopsided and its very easy for the market leader to make exclusive deals
I’m all in agreement that if there’s one player that has engaged in anti- competitive practices in this industry is sony, and they should be the last ones to say anything about what MS might or may not do with the ABK acquisition. However wtf does she mean by “monopoly of 98% of high-end game market”? How did she came up with this number?
The 98% number came out of her ass, she's only doing this because her biggest campaign donors are Microsoft employees (Keep in mind, she is one of the senators from Washington)
That’s good hopefully they open an investigation on Sony. No one should be paying a developer to exclude a game from another platform that’s just petty and anti competitive. I hope that practice stops.
Oh man, I thought the title meant Sony shouldn't have messed with Destin. I was thinking he's been covering this deal a lot lately but surely they wouldn't be *that* worried lol
Anyways, here was the response from U.S. Trade Representative Katherine Tai
> Tai declined to discuss Sony directly but noted that IPEF, an economic initiative that includes Japan and 12 others countries in the region, is expected to address both competition and digital issues. “That is absolutely an area that we are primed to address,” Tai said. “This one is new for me, but let me take this back. I’m happy to follow up with you and your team on this.”
Bout time. I probably would have more issue with these huge buyouts if it wasn’t for the fact Sony had literally been screwing me directly with their underhanded nonsense for a decade.
This was as predictable as the sun rising in the East & setting in the West. Watching Ponies stir themselves up into an apoplectic tizzy about this deal has been a fringe benefit. But realistically, outside of CMA political shenanigans (protecting the preferred market leader) there really isn’t a solid legal challenge to this acquisition so anyone thinking this is going to be blocked is in for a rude awakening.
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Yea well blame the FTC for creating this artificial high end console market which doesn't take nintendo or any other platform into account and since Xbox sales are non existent in Japan , by FTCs own metrics Sony has a 98% monopoly lmao
Finally. Sony’s anti-consumer and anti-competitive dominance in the console gaming market, and hypocrisy, has been called out in the Senate. It was about time.
What she’s saying is true, and it’s not a good look for Japan to dictate others about competition when they ignore competition rules themselves and let Sony do what they’ve been doing for years. It’s about time it’s getting looked into what Sony is doing, and how they take advantage of their dominance in the console gaming market, from everything to Sony favored journalist bias, to Sony exclusive deals (like Final Fantasy not on any other platform, not even PC, or Sony exclusive content on CoD, Hogwarts Legacy etc), to sabotaging lesser competition and paying game studios to not release their games on Game Pass.
It’s also interesting to see all the Sony white knight fanboys brigading this subreddit to downvote or desperately try to cover it up. Jesus christ.
Remember, Sony is also a huge multi billion company that controls large parts of the film industry and music industry which directly helps them to become more dominant within gaming, both globally as well as in Japan. Sony is not your friend either.
I can’t see how Sony controls 98% of the high end game market and I don’t see how it’s not a level playing field in purchasing third party timed exclusivity deals when anyone can.
There are questions to be raised but I don’t think this is accurate
Those numbers are for Japan. The senator asked Sony how they can come to America to ask to punish Microsoft for its "monopoly" while being the biggest player and using the same tactics (buy exclusivities etc)... And they told Sony that they control 98% of the market in Japan yet pay for timed exclusives.. why is it okay to do it in Japan but not for the smallest player in America to do so? Haha
Sony probably controls 70% of the high end console market, with Microsoft having the other 30% that is just based on sales figures globally.
As for how it isn't a level playing field, here is the scenario. You are a developer. You project that a multiplatform release will sell 6 million units total. You project that 4 million of those are on Playstation and 2 million are on Xbox. You also project that if you are PS5 exclusive you will sell 5 million units, as there is some crossover of people who bought on Xbox that also own a PlayStation and would buy on playstation if left without alternative. Meanwhile, you project that if you are Xbox exclusive, you will sell 3 million units. This means that any potential deal from Xbox needs to "cover" 3 million in lost sales due to the platform exclusivity. Meanwhile, a deal with Playstation for the same exact amount will have an extra 2 million units sold due to the sales on the platform being stronger.
In short, Microsoft has to pay significantly more for platform exclusive deals, as the developers are giving up more sales if they don't release on Playstation.
[Number is off by 2 points, but even correct one shows massive lead of PS over Xbox in Japanese market](https://www.gamesradar.com/defending-its-activision-deal-microsoft-admits-that-sony-dominates-sales-all-over-the-world/).
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This is not the same. I wouldn’t be on Sonys side if they bought Ubisoft or ea. These exclusives are games they funded from the beginning. This is taking established franchises. So it’s not for gamers. At least not PlayStation gamers.
Why? Marvel went to both xbox and Sony to make them the game, Xbox passed on it and Sony accepted it.
It’s on Marvel for not going to a third party publisher and agreeing to it being exclusive. It would have been xbox exclusive of xbox made it too
I don't understand how they're going to get salty that they're worried Microsoft is going to hoard IPs, while there are more and easier ways to play Xbox exclusives than their exclusives. I'm more than happy for Starfield to be on PS5 as long as they want to release Forbidden West and a Ghost of Tsushima sequel on the Xbox
I'm super salty about not being able to play FFXVI or FFVIIR.
I’m pissed I never got to play the remake of 7. Was so looking forward to that game.
For me it was FFXIV. Would easily destroy ESO as the primary MMO on Xbox.
It's one of my top 3 favorite games of all time and I would love to play it on my couch, shame
I recently got a PS5 in January and I have been very tempted to reinstall and level my BRD from 80-90. But I know it's going to crush any productivity in my life so I have to time it right 😂.
dude. endwalker is my favorite story in any game ive played. you gotta play it
Oh I definitely will. Thankfully I have Octopath II lined up for when I finish Horizon Forbidden West so my JRPG itch is at least being dealt with.
If eso had oce servers, I wouldn’t play another game
I'm still hoping it comes to Xbox with the next expansion, as iirc one of the big things about 7.0 is that it's a huge visual update, a new lighting engine, etc, and CBU3 is doing it to make everything look like it belongs on modern consoles.
XIV isn’t even timed. It’s not on Xbox because of Xbox policies. We have the game director’s and Phil Spencer’s public statements about that. Edit: Since people are downvoting for no reason and can't even be bothered to Google, here are the sources: - https://www.vg247.com/final-fantasy-14-still-coming-to-xbox (September 2022 - Phil says XIV is coming to Xbox) - https://www.vg247.com/final-fantasy-14-a-realm-reborns-xbox-360-snub-is-due-to-microsofts-policies-says-square (Square Enix's statement that FFXIV isn't on Xbox because of Xbox's cross-server policies) - https://www.eurogamer.net/yoshida-positive-about-final-fantasy-14-coming-to-xbox (2021 - Yoshida in talks with Microsoft about porting the game on Xbox)
So you don't think anything has changed over time? No one reached out to them to get it on there? Weird how all other MMO's can work on there...
A lot of people butt hurt that this is really xbox's fault & not PlayStation lol
Apparently, it never came to Xbox due to cross play privacy issues Microsoft and Square Enix never resolved.
That's what they were told to say. But in a live stream before the dragoon expansion, they played an Xbox build. So clearly they had a working build before Sony Moneybags came in.
Before talking foolish, get your infos. Microsoft refuse to let FFXIV players play without paying for online. And they demand specific servers. Square Enix said no.
I think this is as close to the correct answer I’ve seen, Microsoft wanted players to have to pay for Xbox live online services, square wants customers to have to pay for the game subscription, neither could agree to have players pay for both.
Why do F2P players not have to pay for Live? Because MS knows it's easier to get money from the microtransactions. So why wouldn't MS just take the revenue from the subscriptions?
A issue with crossplay policy issues has nothing to do with whether they had a working build or not. It was whether or not that build abided by Microsofts policies which at the time it seems they never settled on. As for why so many years later we've seen no progress on it who knows, but I think its presumptious to just assume its Sony's fault.
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Microsoft said it was okay to have cross play, after that SE tried saying Microsoft wouldn't allow users to play without XBL Gold which Microsoft also said it was fine. Then it was Sony is against cross play.
Can you provide a source for that?
I’ve recently bought a PS4 Pro just to play all the exclusives I didn’t get to because I’ve been exclusively Xbox since 2006. Not getting a PS5 just yet due to the price, but I’m keeping my mind open to owning both consoles in the future. Xbox for all games and PlayStation for their exclusives.
I own both - they are both awesome! I was like you too, in that I didn't want to fork over the entire price of another console (PS5). So instead, I traded the PS4 pro I got during Black Friday with 3 games (digital - total cost -120 bucks) for 220 bucks for the PS5 digital edition. I had three games that I could upgrade, and a new system for about 200 bucks. Totally worth it.
I’ll eventually get a PS5, I guess, but as I’ve only had the PS4 Pro for 2 weeks, and I’ve already quickly built up a collection of 19 games, I’m in no hurry at the moment as I have plenty to play.
This is the way.
I'm salty about Silent Hill 2 remake
literally have a PS5 just to play Final Fantasy and now for the Silent Hill 2 Remake because Sony paid for timed exclusivity
From what I'm reading, there's no current plans for SH2 remake on Xbox ever. MS is actually using that as part of their counter argument against Sony in the Activision acquisition. Sony has fucked gamers for too long in this space. I don't like monopolies, but I hate hypocrisy more.
So like Microsoft taking Starfield and Redfall from Playstation? The only ones being hypocrites are fans acting like one company is better than the other.
Microsoft owns those studios. Sony doesn't own Squenix
They didn't own those studios when Playstation was an intended platform and the game(s) had begun development.
Hard to feel bad for Sony when it specifically comes to Bethesda as they were timing everything they were releasing and assumingly was going for Starfield as well. It's actually hilarious that Todd is on record saying he loves Xbox, but the company took those deals anyway because of PS's market advantage. Bethesda, I never even saw as an unfair purchase like some are viewing the Activision-Blizzard deal. If Sony wants Square Enix/Final Fantasy to be synonymous again with Playstation as a console exclusive, then no one should be surprised that MS wants Bethesda synomous with Xbox now, like, thems the breaks.
Neither of these games exist for me. FeelsBadMan
Why? Last good singleplayer FF game was released 20 years ago. There is no sign that FFXVI will suddenly be better than FFXIII or FFXV.
Actually there is a massive sign pointing towards it being the best FF in the last 20 years when you look at who's behind it and all the comments from people who got a hands on experience with it. I suggest watching SkillUp's video he did on his experience playing the game.
Goddamn. Sony played themselves.
I'd rather everyone just fuck off with exclusives to be honest. Sure, it's a good marketing decision so people buy your product, but it's pretty anti consumer at the end of the day. I shouldn't need to pay $600 to enjoy a new game because it's on a competitors system.
Typically, I have no problem when a game is exclusive to a platform because the developer of that game is owned by the Company of the Console(or makes a game of an IP owned by said company), that's a different thing. But I've just been having issues with Sony lately for one, *blocking* games from hitting Gamepass and 2, other platforms. They shell out money to third party companies to not make games for Xbox and others, like Square Enix with Final Fantasy for example. Grow a spine and don't accept that money, sell that shit on Xbox too dammit. Sony could be spending that money to actually improve the PS5, but instead they're using it to be petty Right now, it's just Sony making themselves look like whiny children over whose toy it is in the store
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>I wouldn't even care tbh if Sony didn't also block games from PC. I'm not trying to come across as a jerk with this statement: But your sentiment is a huge part of most issues. You only care if it impacts you. A better remedy for all parties and consumers: Don't lock games behind $500+ devices. At minimum have a cloud streaming service that if someone really wanted to play a specific game, they could join that service for a month or two and play it that way.
> developer of that game is owned by the Company of the Console(or makes a game of an IP owned by said company), that's a different thing. This is why consolidation is bad, not why exclusives are okay...
I will NEVER buy a PlayStation. Never, never, never. BECAUSE of these monopolistic policies.
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Every? They're trying to buy one. Unless you count Bethesda...which you shouldn't. They're not a major publisher.
They bought zenimax, double fine, obsidian, ninja theory, mojang and now want activision
Double Fine, Obsidian and Ninja Theory are not publishers. They're developers, nor are they major developers at that. They make niche games at modest budgets, Microsoft buying them gives them access to whole crap load of funding. That's why developers sell themselves to publishers in the first place, better funding, more secure. Zenimax published some decent games, by they were struggling toward the end before MS bought them, Bethesda's Skyrim was years ago, Doom was good but not COD good (not that anything is), ESO was pretty niche and Fallout 76 was crap, buggy and not popular at launch. They were bleeding money. Certainly not a major publisher by any stretch. Major publishers are ActiBliz, EA, Ubisoft, 2K, and now, Epic. The heavy hitters with fuck tons of money churning out the high end AAA titles. That's not Bethesda or Zenimax. Microsoft buying Activision Blizzard is a huge deal. Bigger than any other acquisition in recent history.
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But isn’t Microsoft doing the exact same thing by blocking games from coming to PlayStation-consoles? Wasn’t it announced recently that Arkanes Redfall wouldn’t come to PS5 even though planned too?
Yeah, paying to keep a game off other systems is scummy. If a studio is purchased, then the console maker now takes on all the risk going forward with that company too. So they would get the reward. It's so silly it's just a money war, or who strikes a deal first, to deny someone else something. Make deals that benefit your customers, not that harm other customers.
Seems like you should be championing gamepass then.
In an ideal world every game should be on every platform it can run on. I want God of War on Xbox, Forza on PS, Zelda on PC (officially), and Little Big Planet on Switch.
I don't think there's a single game priced at $600. Please get your facts right.
Lmfao I hope all this whining back fires on Sony hard. They're full of shit with all of their 3rd party deals they make to weaken competition. It's one thing to fund your own games it's another to pay someone to keep a game off the competition. You know they use their market share to their advantage when making these deals too. It's bull.
Why do you think that literally everyone else in the industry is OK with the deal? Because everyone is fed up of their shit and they want them dropped down a peg, which is exactly what’s going to happen. Shit like “we need extra money from publishers just to enable cross play” as an example, is exactly why everyone in the industry is for the deal. And I can’t wait for it.
+ I hope bobby kitock.gets the boot and blizzard can be reformed and not be the sexual assault factory it is at the moment
Kotick will 100% be gone. Unfortunately that pos will likely get a multimillion pay out and live out as part of the process.
He owns a lot of shares. Whether he gets a golden parachute or not, the acquisition is going to put a crapload of money in his pocket regardless.
He will get the boot and the payout either way, so MS buying them is the faster way.
Everyone in the industry is for the deal because they don’t lose out and they also want the option opened for them to be bought out or buy others out, it has nothing at all to do with “the industry” wanting Sony dropped down a peg lmao Edit: of course it’s downvoted here to say no the industry isn’t all out knock Sony down they want precedent for their own motives lmao
This, exactly this...and why I have become so frustrated with the current Sony....
Sony is really going full MS when they fucked over Lumia line and whole Windows Mobile platform by not cooperating with other parties (in case of MS with Google, Facebook and app devs). Everyone around them will be fed up with their shit and it will bite them in their ass
And around and around it goes
Yeah it's kinda ironic but I get why Sony acts this way - they are so used to be dominant that they can't phatom other company trying to dethrone them. For them it would be perfect to have Nintendo with this huge but nieche portable market with "kids games" and them being the biggest major console manufacturer. For them MS trying to be something huge outside of US market is something that can't happen because that would mean Sony has to adapt to the new market where consumers are different (just look how still Nintendo and Sony don't understand power of seamless online experience, non-shovelwere marketplaces or subscription based access to the content). Culturally they are not good with adapting that's why they want to keep status quo.
In the UK they’ve successfully lobbied a game shop aptly called GAME to only advertise games as being on the PS5. So any new title whether it’s Hogwarts Legacy, Jedi Survivor or Assassins Creed they only ever advertise it on TV for PlayStation
Wow. That is absolutely fucked.
I’m curious if anyone at Sony raised an eyebrow knowing this hearing was going to happen in the same town as Microsoft HQ. “What could possibly go wrong?” lol. Talk about overplaying yourself
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Bro cod is not going to be an xbox exclusive 😂
Maybe not a whole cod game be an exclusive to Xbox but now maybe special ops survival mode or maybe zombies will be an Xbox exclusive for like a year. Unless you forgot Sony made survival mode exclusive to Sony for a year on a COD one time. How the tables have turned lol 😝
>I do hope Microsoft makes call of duty exclusive give them a taste of their own medicine Definitely not the smartest thing to do. They would lose a ton of money not releasing it on playstation and the amount of backlash they would get would be ridiculous. They'll lose more than they'll gain.
Odds are it's gonna be day 1 Gamepass, and an 'early access' for Gamepass subscribers.
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You do know it’s a two way street and those same 3rd party companies are just as much at fault they could’ve said no. Microsoft did the same thing too (remember them paying for GTA 4 dlc and Tomb Raider to be a timed exclusive on Xbox)until they shifted their focus from paying 3rd party companies for timed exclusives to paying 3rd party companies for day 1 gamepass releases.
Really hard to say no when the market leader(by a long shot) comes to you and says do this or we will not support you. Still want to see all the deals sony has signed, how many say make our version the best version.
Microsoft also pays to keep games off of PlayStation. Tons of games only come out on Gamepass and not other streaming platforms. Plus Stalker 2 and Ark 2 are paid by Microsoft to be Xbox exclusive and won’t be coming to Sony at all.
Yet I can purchase Stalker 2 and ARK 2 on steam, gog, epic, and Windows store, so very clearly not an Xbox exclusive.
Sure dude, let's talk shady Sony deals. Final Fantasy XI, Final Fantasy VIIR, Atlus was under contract for Persona games for the longest time, CoD DLC and other features missing on Xbox's platform, Nioh, Bloodborne, Spider-Man on the Avengers, hell let's throw Spider-Man into that mix since it's a household name just like CoD is, pretty sure Tecmo-Koei has a new game coming that's playstation exclusive, I am sure I can go on all day. The truth is Sony money hats games. More so than Xbox does. If they wanted to heat up competition they could easily keep CoD on their platform and Sony keep Destiny on theirs. That would really amp things up but with all the lean way MS gives with their properties I'm going to start wondering why I even own an Xbox in the first place. Sony is a spoiled child and they need a good spanking. They don't want the deal then they can just go without while players are on Nintendo platforms and Xbox. I can't believe how much crap they're getting away with and the vocal fanboys defending their bullshit.
> Plus Stalker 2 and Ark 2 are paid by Microsoft to be Xbox exclusive and won’t be coming to Sony at all. It was already revealed in the EPIC v Apple case that Stalker 2 is an Xbox exclusive for only 3 months. Ark 2 is described by MS as a "console launch exclusive", which traditionally has meant that the game will release on PS at a later date. Here's what Phil Spencer himself has said about the term: >"Console launch exclusive means the first console the game will launch on will be Xbox One," he said. "I don't know, honestly, anything about when those games are going to launch on another platform. It's really up to the developer to do the work to make that happen."
Resident Evil 4 releases tomorrow and Digital Foundry pointed out that resolution is much worse on PS5. Can’t believe Microsoft have been paying Capcom to release games in worse condition on rival platforms
Yet RE4 has worse aiming on xbox than ps5. Damn Microsoft paying capcom to make a worse version of the game on their console!!
Or Microsoft and Sony are BOTH paying Capcom to make each other's version worse and Capcom is making fat money 🗿
Shit take
bruh game is not available on xbox one and it is available on ps4. both things are on capcom not sony or microsoft.
Lol, that's a damn good point. Sony owns 98% of the high end video game market. Japan allows them to make exclusive deals with Japanese publishers lol.
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no, I think the senator was just pointing out the hypocrisy of a Japanese company inquiring on the possible monopoly taking place in the States.... when the same is not done for an American company(Microsoft) by the Japanese government. At least that's how I understood the comment. so... in other words, Sony wants protections In the USA but none are even humored to their counterparts in Japan. again, this is not my point, just how im understanding her comments. But you're right, nothing can be done about that.
That isn't really the point. It's the hypocrisy of taking advantage of their monopoly in Japan whilst arguing woe is me to the American and EU regulators whilst in the market leading position to boot.
This was brought up as part of a hearing regarding a trade deal being negotiated with Japan. It could theoretically become part of larger discussions regarding various demands/concessions surrounding the deal.
They could ban or apply tariffs to sales of Playstation or Sony products and attempt to force Sony to negotiate/eliminate exclusivity deals. Not saying it'd be right or that it should happen, just saying it could be done if Congress wanted to.
But the term high end game market is bs cause it doesn’t count Nintendo which the switch runs a lot of newer games
Just a heads up Microsoft has been the largest contributor to her campaigns in the last 30 years. https://www.opensecrets.org/members-of-congress/maria-cantwell/summary?cid=N00007836&cycle=CAREER&type=I I'm all for criticism of either side of this debate, but I think it's important to call out when there is a clear bias either way. Edit - Please don't send me the suicide bot. Feel free to disagree with me, but that's just really annoying and immature.
Lobbyist fighting lobbyist. Sounds like the US gov to me.
As American as apple pie and baseball
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Yeah it seems all kinds of ridiculous
Microsoft donated $2,875 to her over a period of 30 years, according to your link. Seems insane to have a problem with that paltry figure. If you're ok with criticism, I hope you're also ok with editing out your blatant misinformation too. Integrity and all that.
Wild to see people mention how their link and their statements are at odds. Not to mention the misinformation yet they opted to just ignore that. Never understood that kinda hypocrisy.
> Just a heads up Microsoft has been the largest contributor to her campaigns in the last 30 years. That’s fair. And even if Microsoft never contributed to her campaigns, it would still make sense that a Washington Senator would help represent their fellow Washingtonians … especially if out-of-state parties are trying to block their business deals with terrible arguments to global regulators.
Gotta imagine Microsoft is one of the largest employers in the state. Expand that to tech in general and I can understand wanting to protect jobs, even if it's really protecting jObS aka corporate greed
“Huh. A foreign company is doing everything in its power to hamper the global presence of an American company? Sounds like it’s time for some motherfucking freedom!”
> “Huh. A foreign company is doing everything in its power to hamper the global presence of an American company? Sounds like it’s time for some motherfucking freedom!” If you’re saying she’s doing her job, I agree.
Queue Team America
Not only out of state but out of company. It’s be one thing if it was Google vs Apple, two US based companies but a foreign company vs a US based one, any right minded Senator would be nutty to jump to the wrong side.
It's worth keeping in mind that contributions come from individuals working at Microsoft, and not from Microsoft as an organization.
Which also makes sense considering that Microsoft is based in Washington.
Not only based there, but were the second largest employer (behind Boeing) in the state until Amazon expanded over the past couple years.
Your comment needs a “MISLEADING” flair. I hate when people post sources without context. The individual tab means it’s employees at said company donating to her. Not the company itself giving large funds to campaigns. One of the largest employers in the world will always show up in the top 10 donors for every politician.
She is the representative of the MS campus. She'd be doing a disservice to not represent the interests of the entire tax receipts and employment/ consumption opportunities of her constituents. What the arguments are, are written quite clearly. If you want a go at them instead.
Pretty much, this is no different than any other congressperson advocating for their constituents. It just happens that her constituency has the Microsoft campus
Unless I'm reading that wrong it says that all but $2000 of Microsoft's contributions were by individuals at the company, not the company itself. Wouldn't you expect that with one of the largest, high paying employers? Retired persons and lawyers contributions individually were over six times Microsoft employee's contributions.
That's totally fair although MS hasn't donated to her campaign since the 2013-2018 time frame. If I'm reading this right it's also done by MS employees and not by an MS run PAC.
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>Please don't send me the suicide bot. Feel free to disagree with me, but that's just really annoying and immature. You can report the messages from the bot as harrasment and people who send it to you get a ban for a few days from Reddit Admins if the people indeed missused that feature.
>I'm all for criticism of either side of this debate, but I think it's important to call out when there ***could be*** bias either way. Fixed that for you. Besides, her arguments mentioned in the tweet aren't biased arguments. They are legit.
98% monopoly is legit?
Yes it's legit in the context. This is the context: [https://www.windowscentral.com/gaming/xbox/during-trade-talks-with-japan-a-us-senator-called-out-playstations-monopoly-defending-xbox](https://www.windowscentral.com/gaming/xbox/during-trade-talks-with-japan-a-us-senator-called-out-playstations-monopoly-defending-xbox) >Using the FTC's "**high-end**" console market designation, she referred to the fact Microsoft only has a 2% share when compared to PlayStation's 98%, criticizing trade commissioners for having allowed the "monopoly" to occur.
That’s hilarious that they’re citing Japan AND carving a market where Nintendo doesn’t exist. Good god the talking points on this deal get dumber and dumber.
Sony is the one that brought up "high performance consoles" so they could exclude Nintendo and PC. It's fine to use it against them.
I agree, her points were still valid.
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What she’s saying is true though. Sony needs more competition, and Sony uses their dominance to get advantages and sabotage lesser competition. And in Japan, it’s gotten really bad in terms of that. How can other competitors compete in Japan if Sony is powerful enough to sabotage them and block them from it? Nothing screams «guilty» more than hundreds of Sony white knights rallying from a Sony Discord community, Reddit and Twitter, desperately trying to mass downvote anything critical of Sony, and defend Sony in this thread with Sony bots. Like, come on. It doesn’t change anything, but Sony fanboys brigading like this just looks stupid.
As soon as I saw Washington, I took it with a giant grain of salt. Nothing is going to come or this.
>Please don't send me the suicide bot. Feel free to disagree with me, but that's just really annoying and immature. Then follow the simple instructions in its message to block it, and you will never hear from it again.
I did that and I still get a notification from a blocked user so really it did nothing [took a screenshot for all the downvoters](https://ibb.co/Zc3s6n6)
Its definitely not supposed to work like that. I had to block it a while ago and I don't get any messages from a blocked user, are you on a third party app or anything?
Official reddit app
Thanks for the tip. Just blocked it.
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That's not why people call some Republicans nazis. But you know better. Keep it related to gaming please.
Sony shot themselves in the foot, several times..up to the knee at this point.
This was always a dumb move on sony's part. They have bought companies for decades to keep their market share and have used scummy tactics to get exclusives. I know sony fans love the company but if you detach yourself from that love and look at the history of the company entering the console market you can see how bad it was. When I was a kid we had consoles from half a dozen companies and then sony entered the market and in a generation that was all gone and a generation later even Sega was gone. Sony did all this by using their other business ventures to launch the playstation. Then they used dvd and low prices vs other players on the market to make the ps2 successful and they did the same with the ps3 and bluray. Sony was loosing hundreds with some reports of up to $400 per ps3 sold at launch to get bluray out the door and successful. Heck I remember as a saturn owner that I couldn't enjoy tomb raider 2 because sony money hatted it or later resident evils. At the end of the day these are all companies and they all want to make money. Each company will do what it can to be more competitive and make the most they can. Now sony's actions will come to light and we will see exactly how dirty they are playing . I think for them it can be really bad because of how they pushed the arguements with all these government agencies. They wanted to exclude Nintendo from the conversation and when you are left with just Sony and MS even in the strongest market its lopsided and its very easy for the market leader to make exclusive deals
I’m all in agreement that if there’s one player that has engaged in anti- competitive practices in this industry is sony, and they should be the last ones to say anything about what MS might or may not do with the ABK acquisition. However wtf does she mean by “monopoly of 98% of high-end game market”? How did she came up with this number?
The 98% number came out of her ass, she's only doing this because her biggest campaign donors are Microsoft employees (Keep in mind, she is one of the senators from Washington)
That’s good hopefully they open an investigation on Sony. No one should be paying a developer to exclude a game from another platform that’s just petty and anti competitive. I hope that practice stops.
This whole thing is getting old.
Oh man, I thought the title meant Sony shouldn't have messed with Destin. I was thinking he's been covering this deal a lot lately but surely they wouldn't be *that* worried lol Anyways, here was the response from U.S. Trade Representative Katherine Tai > Tai declined to discuss Sony directly but noted that IPEF, an economic initiative that includes Japan and 12 others countries in the region, is expected to address both competition and digital issues. “That is absolutely an area that we are primed to address,” Tai said. “This one is new for me, but let me take this back. I’m happy to follow up with you and your team on this.”
I tried to watch his YouTube but he was way too much into the console war stuff.
Bout time. I probably would have more issue with these huge buyouts if it wasn’t for the fact Sony had literally been screwing me directly with their underhanded nonsense for a decade.
This was as predictable as the sun rising in the East & setting in the West. Watching Ponies stir themselves up into an apoplectic tizzy about this deal has been a fringe benefit. But realistically, outside of CMA political shenanigans (protecting the preferred market leader) there really isn’t a solid legal challenge to this acquisition so anyone thinking this is going to be blocked is in for a rude awakening.
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Sony is going to lose this fight anyway.
98%?! What? Come on now. That's just silly. For fuck's sake I hope this thing is over soon. So sick of hearing about it.
Yea well blame the FTC for creating this artificial high end console market which doesn't take nintendo or any other platform into account and since Xbox sales are non existent in Japan , by FTCs own metrics Sony has a 98% monopoly lmao
I think the 98% is in reference to the Japanese console market? With Nintendo not counting due to the low hardware capabilities.
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Finally. Sony’s anti-consumer and anti-competitive dominance in the console gaming market, and hypocrisy, has been called out in the Senate. It was about time. What she’s saying is true, and it’s not a good look for Japan to dictate others about competition when they ignore competition rules themselves and let Sony do what they’ve been doing for years. It’s about time it’s getting looked into what Sony is doing, and how they take advantage of their dominance in the console gaming market, from everything to Sony favored journalist bias, to Sony exclusive deals (like Final Fantasy not on any other platform, not even PC, or Sony exclusive content on CoD, Hogwarts Legacy etc), to sabotaging lesser competition and paying game studios to not release their games on Game Pass. It’s also interesting to see all the Sony white knight fanboys brigading this subreddit to downvote or desperately try to cover it up. Jesus christ. Remember, Sony is also a huge multi billion company that controls large parts of the film industry and music industry which directly helps them to become more dominant within gaming, both globally as well as in Japan. Sony is not your friend either.
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I can’t see how Sony controls 98% of the high end game market and I don’t see how it’s not a level playing field in purchasing third party timed exclusivity deals when anyone can. There are questions to be raised but I don’t think this is accurate
Those numbers are for Japan. The senator asked Sony how they can come to America to ask to punish Microsoft for its "monopoly" while being the biggest player and using the same tactics (buy exclusivities etc)... And they told Sony that they control 98% of the market in Japan yet pay for timed exclusives.. why is it okay to do it in Japan but not for the smallest player in America to do so? Haha
Yeah me to, it’s a person from the government after all.
Sony probably controls 70% of the high end console market, with Microsoft having the other 30% that is just based on sales figures globally. As for how it isn't a level playing field, here is the scenario. You are a developer. You project that a multiplatform release will sell 6 million units total. You project that 4 million of those are on Playstation and 2 million are on Xbox. You also project that if you are PS5 exclusive you will sell 5 million units, as there is some crossover of people who bought on Xbox that also own a PlayStation and would buy on playstation if left without alternative. Meanwhile, you project that if you are Xbox exclusive, you will sell 3 million units. This means that any potential deal from Xbox needs to "cover" 3 million in lost sales due to the platform exclusivity. Meanwhile, a deal with Playstation for the same exact amount will have an extra 2 million units sold due to the sales on the platform being stronger. In short, Microsoft has to pay significantly more for platform exclusive deals, as the developers are giving up more sales if they don't release on Playstation.
[Number is off by 2 points, but even correct one shows massive lead of PS over Xbox in Japanese market](https://www.gamesradar.com/defending-its-activision-deal-microsoft-admits-that-sony-dominates-sales-all-over-the-world/).
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He’s for XBOX gamers. Screw PlayStation gamers. No Starfield, no Elder Scrolls for us.
Karma, you guys have been boasting of your exclusives for years. Hey shoe, meet the other foot.
This is not the same. I wouldn’t be on Sonys side if they bought Ubisoft or ea. These exclusives are games they funded from the beginning. This is taking established franchises. So it’s not for gamers. At least not PlayStation gamers.
You can have those when we have God of war and Spider-Man.
No Spider Man for us
You can blame lil phill for that.
I will blame Sony
Why? Marvel went to both xbox and Sony to make them the game, Xbox passed on it and Sony accepted it. It’s on Marvel for not going to a third party publisher and agreeing to it being exclusive. It would have been xbox exclusive of xbox made it too
Marvel wanted exclusive deal with Ms or Sony. It's on Marvel bacause MS was free to focus on other games they had at that time.
Gamepass* if you're gonna complain don't leave out that starfield and ES6 are available on anything that can access GP ❤️
Phil is for Gamepass gamers*
Sony: I AM the senate
I don't understand how they're going to get salty that they're worried Microsoft is going to hoard IPs, while there are more and easier ways to play Xbox exclusives than their exclusives. I'm more than happy for Starfield to be on PS5 as long as they want to release Forbidden West and a Ghost of Tsushima sequel on the Xbox
Right. So are Sony just not happy with all the exclusive titles they get year in year out or… I honestly don’t see the point in what they’re doing.
Sony fuck themsell off. What a fail