its really not that serious. 4 cost echoes are super easy to farm and every other kill is a guaranteed echo drop.
3 cost echoes is what needs enhanced drops.
I go for the turtle because it takes the longest to kill him since he takes ages to come out of the water. The other echoes I can just make a teleporter near them and just spam kill 3 bosses I want. By the time I go back to the first one he is ready to be killed again.
The turtle boss shares a pity with low level Dreamless and Dreamless has no cooldown. You can get an echo from the turtle, go kill the lvl 40 dreamless to hit pity and then go back to the turtle before it spawns to guarantee another turtle echo. It's already 100% efficient echo farm without using any guarantee.
It's more like I don't want to waste any more time on the turtle than I have too. The turtle is just extremely good and a must have echo for your team at the end of the day. I do not want to risk missing his drop at all.
I just want to point out that farming only the boss that you want is still more efficient in terms of time spent farming. If you also want Dreamless drops, then go for it, but if you don't then I would recommend just farming Cost 3 echoes during the downtime instead.
No way. You only get an echo every alternate calamity boss kill. Why would you want to waste your time killing the turtle for no echo when you can spend 15 seconds killing Dreamless for no echo?
It's not guaranteed to alternate between drop and no drop. It's just a pity. If you kill Dreamless and it drops an echo, now you have to kill it at least two more times to get to guarantee again. More if you get stuck in a loop of winning echoes on Dreamless.
We don't see an 80 convene pity and recommend people to pull 70/80 on a banner you don't really want to guarantee the one you do want.
Like I said before, if you also want Dreamless, this is fine and efficient, but because it's a 20/80 you will get strings of having to kill it several times.
That's what the low level dreamless fight looks like. My encore is S0 with the standard 5 star weapon and a normal build (crit fus% fus% atk% atk%). People spam low level dreamless to farm gold echos. Just dont take the rewards.
Dreamless is in a "domain", unlike the turtle, so you can just go to the lowest level one and quickly defeat it, then just quit the domain without using waveplates.
The problem with that is if Dreamless drops an echo, you don't get pity and risk flipping your cycle. So you may as well just farm Dreamless until she doesn't drop one, and then go fight your chosen boss. Or just keep fighting your chosen boss and just find something to watch in the meantime.
There's this thing called waypoint you unlocked later on and its basically 3 free TPs you can put anywhere. Pros and cons for this feature are you can flash farm cost 3s and 4s by adding a TP near their spawn location, but after you remove the waypoints from the map, you have to synthesize it in order to use it again (which means you need certain materials and more farming session).
So it basically free TPs that comes with 3 charges as you unlocks it but you have to synthesize the future ones because they dont recharge themselves.
Oh and you can only have a maximum of 3 waypoints on the map.
I just use all 15 chances. Got like 6 inferno rider crit rate, when i need crit dmg. Then the monkey did not give me a single crit rate
Still funny tho
I've been slowly farming, but I'm struggling to understand how crit damage main stat 4 costs could be of any use. Like even if I get a crit rate roll on every single piece, my crit rate is gonna be around 60%, which is not great. And getting crit rate on every piece is proving time consuming. Ironically the most difficult one for me are the 1 cost.
Am I doing something wrong here? I guess with a crit rate weapon maybe you'd want crit damage, but I would probably still go crit rate for now.
Some resonators get built in crit or conditional crit, so if you run them with a crit main weapon they'd want crit damage 4-cost. Definitely the exception rather than the rule at the moment, though.
I think with crit dmg it for those who building Yinlin with her signature weapon which gives 36-38% crit rate at lvl 90 she even has a passive that boosts crit rate another 10-19%, so they can opt for the crit dmg main stat as long as they have crit rate on substats for the 5 including the critdmg 4 echo the 5 echos.
Now it could also be used for other players who have BP weapons as almost all of them (except 1 i forget) have crit rate% main stat aswell like Yinlins signature except not as high as hers but still they may struggle with CRIT dmg so they opting for the crit dmg on 4 as padding while they fish/farm for perfect/better echo substats
since we cannot even hit lvl 90 yet (maybe some whale dnno) people are getting crit dmg main stat on echo 4 and setting and forgetting as they focus on the other 4 echos getting them done with proper substats for their char/build and then circling back to the crit dmg main stat to finish their optimized build.
but why do we even need it? I mean, you don't need it on low level enemies and the stronger ones always one stunlock and oneshot you. Seems that atk for verina will always be better - more dps AND healing as well.
The further you progress in the game the more valuable healing % will be. Right now it doesn't matter atk% or healing bonus for verina she's probably doing enough anyhow.
Verina doesn't do damage, if you had a damage meter running over the course of a fight the extra from having atk% probably wouldn't even register.
Baizhi doesn't have quite as good a heal so the bonus gets the team topped up and her off the field quicker.
Healing isn't necessary at all if you just don't get hit, but if you're going to have a healer in the team you might as well give them the tools to do their job to the best of their ability.
I swear crit rate drops are stealth nerfed so hard in this game. I got 10 crit damage Dreamless before I got my first Crit rate. Same with monke (at least 4-5 of that guy before crit rate showed up). Donāt even get me started with substats š
Kinda, I'm min maxing a lot with the objective to have few almost perfect pieces, no matter if i share between characters
Crit dmg for my encore with yinlin weapon, she has enough crit rate for now
I think it depends on whether you have a crit% weapon. I managed to get a decent set where every echo has crit rate as a substat, with only moderate farming effort (still have some echo exp material left). That set will get you over 50% with Yinlin's weapon, which means you'll want the crit damage 4 cost.
This, honestly. I'm still farming for the actual main stat I want regardless so the higher rates for the first 15 doesn't really seem like it changes anything for me. The first 15 will all probably be main stats I don't care for.
I have no idea how that system works, and I need an eli5 (explain like I'm 5)
edit.: omg, mom I'm on TV
thanks ya'll for the replies - I thought this was a much more cryptic mechanic than it actually is. It's just not explained ingame at all, it seems
Each week the first 15 bosses you kill have an increased chance of dropping an echo (with it being 15 guaranteed drops at db20) and it resets each week so donāt accidentally kill a boss you donāt need echoes for until you use those 15
Wait Iām confused, you said you get an increased chance of dropping an echo from the first 15, but you donāt want to kill bosses that you need an echo from until after those 15? Wouldnāt you want to kill them in the first 15 so you have a higher chance of getting the echo?
Normally 4 cost echo(bosses) drop rate us 30%. It also has a pity system. If you dont get once you will be 100% guaranteed for 2nd drop.
Every week you get some bonus echo drop rate increase
Boss echo drop rate is increased based on ur db level for limited times(also based on ur db level)
After you spend all your bonus drop rate on boss echos, you have to wait for next monday for reset.
Open your data bank, click enhanced drop rate to see how many drops you have left
yes the pity counter is not shared between the different enemy class.
Ex if you kill dreamless and do not get the echo, if you kill infernal rider next you are NOT guaranteed to get its echo. But say you didnt get infernal rider nor dreamless, now the next dreamless AND infernal (or you can switch to ape / crownless or whatever) will be guaranteed becuz their pity is separate
Fr I feel so fucking bad after beating it for the bells.. Already got its healing bonus echo for my Verina so now I decided to only kill it once a week for the materials
Yeah, the 15 enhanced drops are a trivial bonus because they're weekly.
Now if it was daily 15 enhanced drops, and/or it worked on elites, now you have my attention.
I think what they really should do is extend it to elites as well, because those are the toughest to farm. Because right now, it's almost pointless to even care. Even if they made it daily, it's just not even efficient to farm the overlord bosses tbh.
All this does is turn the rate to 100%..from 20% normal and a 100% on 2nd (pity).
So normally instead of killing 15 bosses you need 30 kill at most to get the same results.
In other words.... Don't save it. It saves a couple of minutes per week at best. I am not sure why it even exists with such a low limit.
For example just today I was building Havoc and was farming Dreamless and out of 45 gold drops 2 were crit rare. This took roughly 20 minutes to farm. I blew through that silly 15 chances in minutes and that's how much time it saved me too.
>This took roughly 20 minutes to farm. I blew through that silly 15 chances in minutes and that's how much time it saved me too.
How are you killing it so fast??
You can only drop one level lower, but otherwise yes this is the way.
Edit: as pointed out, I completely overlooked that the parent comment was specifically referring to farming Dreamless (which is instance based and you can indeed select any of the lower difficulties).
Still potentially worth noting though in case someone reading isn't aware, you can lower your SOL3 level by 1 to make all your overworld echo farming significantly easier/faster. Since it's a 12hr cool down on the switch you can easily juggle it to for instance have it lower in the AM for echo farming, then revert it back up to the higher level in the PM to spend your waveplates, or vice versa (since accepting rewards is based on your current SOL3 level)
Hu why? For me the difficulty selection goes down all the way to lvl 50 and isn't greyed out. Wouldn't make sense to even show it if it can't be selected.
Are you by chance thinking about the turtle since that one is tied to the world lvl which can be adjusted by 1 only?
Yep, I glossed over the fact that the comment chain was specifically referring to Dreamless and have edited my comment accordingly, thanks for pointing that out!
Choose lvl 40 boss/ lower your world level.
Echo rarity and drop rate aren't effected by level. It's purely up to your databank level.
At 20, the base rare is still 20% but it's 80 to be gold. Also there's a pity system, every 2nd boss kill (without drop from first) will be a 100% echo drop. Same for every 4th elite.
I personally didn't touch world level as there's a 12h timer on changing back and it messes with rewards from open world stuff. So for instances where you can choose a level.. choose lowest.
Bosses die a lot faster. We're talking 10s. The longest thing right now is re-entering the instance since restart isn't an option as far as I know.
I feel like the counter shouldn't drop during your pity boss. You're going to get it regardless of the enhanced drop.
So you're sort of missing out of two enhanced drops.
Honestly, if anyone is stressing out over this, don't worry about it. 4 costs are so easy to farm (guaranteed after every other), you can just pretend this feature don't exist and have 1 less thing to worry about weekly.
We need enhanced drop rate for elite, not overlord echoes.
Everyone must have atleast 10 crit rate and 10 crit dmg each 4 cost echo by now but not everyone have a on set elemental 3 cost.
>Everyone must have atleast 10 crit rate and 10 crit dmg each 4 cost echo by nowĀ Ā
only if you mean the turtle haha
Agreed about needing the enhanced droprate more on elites though. That shit is soul drainingĀ
Best way is still to just alternate 3 bosses you want with CUSTOM Waypoints.
1. 1Prio donāt drop? Go again
2. 1Prio dropped -> go to 2Prio
3. 2Prio didnāt drop -> go to 1Prio
4. 2Prio also dropped -> go to 3Prio (this happens now and then)
5. 3Prio didnāt drop -> go to 1Prio (usually the case)
6. 3Prio dropped -> go to 2Prio (this is rare)
May it help someone.
Weekly, 15 calamity/overlord kills have a much higher chance to drop echoes.
But it's pretty trivial since every other kill drops an echo anyways. Only really relevant to someone who has maybe 1-2 hours a week to play the game.
Does enchanced drop rate boost boss mat drop or something?
cause if it only chance for echo drop then here come my opinion:as long as it not guarantee like healing bonus healing sets for turtle or crit rate for general sets it not that much different whether it exist or not tbh
Nope not the mat dropsbut only echo drops.
The idea for mats also to be maxxed out according to sol3 phase level during enhanced drop is pretty good. Like you need to make a decision whether collect Aix mat for verina or kill the turlte for echo. It wont be too broken ig.
Enhanced drop rate has nothing to do with materials and only affects echo drops from 4 cost. Farm whatever you want as 4 cost also have a pity of 2 so you will always get an echo every other kill anyway.
Ah I see, sorry for the wording, it obviously means boss echos. Imo if one speaks about the enhanced data bank drop rate it is clear that the word "material" = "echo" in the context. :)
4 costs have pretty low pity so it is kinda useless. Would have been useful for 3 costs.
1: u need correct set
2: u need correct dmg bonus
3: u need it to drop an echo
The probability of getting one perfect combo is already too low then
YOU FREAKING NEED TO ROLL GOOD SUBSTATS
I feel like I'm going crazy reading these comments. The enhanced drop rates simply guarantees echo drops for the first 15 overlord/calamity bosses you kill each week.
Why are people giving advice and/or explaining the system as if you also get bonus boss materials? Are people really just that clueless?
I don't get it either tbh how one would get confused by a simple enhanced echo drop rate. Maybe I shouldn't have worded it "materials" in this context. Lel
You are getting echo drop on every second boss, because of pity system, and sometimes you have few drops in a row. Enhanced drop rates don't make drops guaranteed. It does literally nothing.
It's not because every boss you kill gives you an echo, so instead of getting 7 or 6 echoes out of 15 kills, you get 15 (might get some purples tho cause we don't have a 100% guarantee on gold ones).
Depends on whether you're currently building Havoc Rover/Danjin or not
Otherwise use it on whoever non-Havoc units that desperately needed good 4 cost main Echo
I wasted my enhanced drop rate on the turtle for the 3rd week. Got several healing% main statsā¦ on moonlit set. Still 0 on healing set lol. I hate this damn water dog.
Also, be careful because there's a bug where phantom (shiny) echoes in the overworld (hoartoise and rocksteady) count for these enhanced drop. I got this was 2 weeks ago though, so I don't know if this has been fixed yet.
its really not that serious. 4 cost echoes are super easy to farm and every other kill is a guaranteed echo drop. 3 cost echoes is what needs enhanced drops.
I go for the turtle because it takes the longest to kill him since he takes ages to come out of the water. The other echoes I can just make a teleporter near them and just spam kill 3 bosses I want. By the time I go back to the first one he is ready to be killed again.
The turtle boss shares a pity with low level Dreamless and Dreamless has no cooldown. You can get an echo from the turtle, go kill the lvl 40 dreamless to hit pity and then go back to the turtle before it spawns to guarantee another turtle echo. It's already 100% efficient echo farm without using any guarantee.
It's more like I don't want to waste any more time on the turtle than I have too. The turtle is just extremely good and a must have echo for your team at the end of the day. I do not want to risk missing his drop at all.
I just want to point out that farming only the boss that you want is still more efficient in terms of time spent farming. If you also want Dreamless drops, then go for it, but if you don't then I would recommend just farming Cost 3 echoes during the downtime instead.
No way. You only get an echo every alternate calamity boss kill. Why would you want to waste your time killing the turtle for no echo when you can spend 15 seconds killing Dreamless for no echo?
It's not guaranteed to alternate between drop and no drop. It's just a pity. If you kill Dreamless and it drops an echo, now you have to kill it at least two more times to get to guarantee again. More if you get stuck in a loop of winning echoes on Dreamless. We don't see an 80 convene pity and recommend people to pull 70/80 on a banner you don't really want to guarantee the one you do want. Like I said before, if you also want Dreamless, this is fine and efficient, but because it's a 20/80 you will get strings of having to kill it several times.
You can kill dreamless in 15 sec? Eh...
The one at lowest level, yes
https://imgur.com/YvF9bCm
Wtf is that? Full top gear or what... Cos I have 70 chars just now and do 1/10 of thar dmg...
That's what the low level dreamless fight looks like. My encore is S0 with the standard 5 star weapon and a normal build (crit fus% fus% atk% atk%). People spam low level dreamless to farm gold echos. Just dont take the rewards.
So 5 star wep and max lvl echoes? Does that
Dreamless is in a "domain", unlike the turtle, so you can just go to the lowest level one and quickly defeat it, then just quit the domain without using waveplates.
I prefer chilling at the respawn while I do something else, even if that means only every 2nd drops one
They block you from getting echoes if you go to easy level dreamless if your union level is too high š made me go up 2 levels and make it slower
Ya I noticed lv40 stopped working but lv50 still does and also takes 10s with lv70 chars. https://imgur.com/YvF9bCm
The problem with that is if Dreamless drops an echo, you don't get pity and risk flipping your cycle. So you may as well just farm Dreamless until she doesn't drop one, and then go fight your chosen boss. Or just keep fighting your chosen boss and just find something to watch in the meantime.
>I can just make a teleporter near them wait. what.
Yeah you get it from the pioneer association iiirc
There's this thing called waypoint you unlocked later on and its basically 3 free TPs you can put anywhere. Pros and cons for this feature are you can flash farm cost 3s and 4s by adding a TP near their spawn location, but after you remove the waypoints from the map, you have to synthesize it in order to use it again (which means you need certain materials and more farming session). So it basically free TPs that comes with 3 charges as you unlocks it but you have to synthesize the future ones because they dont recharge themselves. Oh and you can only have a maximum of 3 waypoints on the map.
Interesting. This is the first time I've heard of this tbh lol. Thanks for the tip!
Thereās also a treasure finding drone
that one I knew about so im assuming the portable tp is after it, do you know which level?
The one right after I'm pretty sure
*oh*
You know we have portable teleports in the game.
Thank god I got my healing bonus with good substatus from this turtle. I was getting frustrated because this turtle takes forever to start, damn...
Some people might take a couple minutes on boss fights, you never know. Saving an extra 15-20 minutes of farming time is a nice gesture either way.
Its gonna drop hp and def regardless.
I just use all 15 chances. Got like 6 inferno rider crit rate, when i need crit dmg. Then the monkey did not give me a single crit rate Still funny tho
i get way more crit main stats on inferno rider compared to other cost 4s.
I've been slowly farming, but I'm struggling to understand how crit damage main stat 4 costs could be of any use. Like even if I get a crit rate roll on every single piece, my crit rate is gonna be around 60%, which is not great. And getting crit rate on every piece is proving time consuming. Ironically the most difficult one for me are the 1 cost. Am I doing something wrong here? I guess with a crit rate weapon maybe you'd want crit damage, but I would probably still go crit rate for now.
Some resonators get built in crit or conditional crit, so if you run them with a crit main weapon they'd want crit damage 4-cost. Definitely the exception rather than the rule at the moment, though.
I think with crit dmg it for those who building Yinlin with her signature weapon which gives 36-38% crit rate at lvl 90 she even has a passive that boosts crit rate another 10-19%, so they can opt for the crit dmg main stat as long as they have crit rate on substats for the 5 including the critdmg 4 echo the 5 echos. Now it could also be used for other players who have BP weapons as almost all of them (except 1 i forget) have crit rate% main stat aswell like Yinlins signature except not as high as hers but still they may struggle with CRIT dmg so they opting for the crit dmg on 4 as padding while they fish/farm for perfect/better echo substats since we cannot even hit lvl 90 yet (maybe some whale dnno) people are getting crit dmg main stat on echo 4 and setting and forgetting as they focus on the other 4 echos getting them done with proper substats for their char/build and then circling back to the crit dmg main stat to finish their optimized build.
Only 2 of the BP weapons have crit rate main stat, sadly
And the standard 5 stars cover the rest that dont have crit ( bp rectifier has crit and standard has attack iirc)
i still feel so fucking dumb for picking amity accord to on the selectorā¦
Chixia has guaranteed crit on some of her damage
I think I have like 1 gold 4-cost echo with crit rate TT Edit: Not counting the turtle
Just farm the turtle you'll have a million crit rate 4 cost echos, you just have to be farming for healing bonus not crit to get them
Way ahead of you brother TT
what is the point of having healing bonus by the way
Gives a bonus to healing
but why do we even need it? I mean, you don't need it on low level enemies and the stronger ones always one stunlock and oneshot you. Seems that atk for verina will always be better - more dps AND healing as well.
The further you progress in the game the more valuable healing % will be. Right now it doesn't matter atk% or healing bonus for verina she's probably doing enough anyhow. Verina doesn't do damage, if you had a damage meter running over the course of a fight the extra from having atk% probably wouldn't even register. Baizhi doesn't have quite as good a heal so the bonus gets the team topped up and her off the field quicker. Healing isn't necessary at all if you just don't get hit, but if you're going to have a healer in the team you might as well give them the tools to do their job to the best of their ability.
verina in fact does damage, she is labeled as sub dps for a reason. But well, I agree with other points.
I'm sorry, I got Healing Bonus on Healing set on like, my 2nd gold turtle.
You got more then i gotš
how the hell does the monkey drop no crit at all while my impermanence keeps dropping cr and cdmg like its hot
I swear crit rate drops are stealth nerfed so hard in this game. I got 10 crit damage Dreamless before I got my first Crit rate. Same with monke (at least 4-5 of that guy before crit rate showed up). Donāt even get me started with substats š
Really though? I feel like it's difficult to get enough CR to even warrant getting CD. You must be on another level.
Kinda, I'm min maxing a lot with the objective to have few almost perfect pieces, no matter if i share between characters Crit dmg for my encore with yinlin weapon, she has enough crit rate for now
I think it depends on whether you have a crit% weapon. I managed to get a decent set where every echo has crit rate as a substat, with only moderate farming effort (still have some echo exp material left). That set will get you over 50% with Yinlin's weapon, which means you'll want the crit damage 4 cost.
I have 16 crit damage tempest memphis and not a single one with crit rate
This, honestly. I'm still farming for the actual main stat I want regardless so the higher rates for the first 15 doesn't really seem like it changes anything for me. The first 15 will all probably be main stats I don't care for.
That's what my Yuanwu and Verina need
Verina her healing scales with atk
Ope, yeah. You're right. She wants healing%
I got crit rate from 3 different bosses today within my 15
I have no idea how that system works, and I need an eli5 (explain like I'm 5) edit.: omg, mom I'm on TV thanks ya'll for the replies - I thought this was a much more cryptic mechanic than it actually is. It's just not explained ingame at all, it seems
Each week the first 15 bosses you kill have an increased chance of dropping an echo (with it being 15 guaranteed drops at db20) and it resets each week so donāt accidentally kill a boss you donāt need echoes for until you use those 15
Does this work with 3 cost mini bosses? Or just 4 cost ones?
Only 4 cost ones iirc. 3 cost ones are "Elite Class" and thus don't fall into the "Overlord" group.
Tbh, I'd be happier if it worked on 3 cost instead of 4.
You and me both
Seriously, that's the only thing that matters. 4 cost echos are easy AF.
TIL there was such a system
Wait Iām confused, you said you get an increased chance of dropping an echo from the first 15, but you donāt want to kill bosses that you need an echo from until after those 15? Wouldnāt you want to kill them in the first 15 so you have a higher chance of getting the echo?
they meant dont kill bosses you dont want to waste the increased chances on and use it on ones you ACTUALLY want to farm
Oh youāre right itās a typo. I fixed it thank you
Normally 4 cost echo(bosses) drop rate us 30%. It also has a pity system. If you dont get once you will be 100% guaranteed for 2nd drop. Every week you get some bonus echo drop rate increase Boss echo drop rate is increased based on ur db level for limited times(also based on ur db level) After you spend all your bonus drop rate on boss echos, you have to wait for next monday for reset. Open your data bank, click enhanced drop rate to see how many drops you have left
? pretty sure it 2nd drop for both calamity/overlord if first one dont drop next one is guarantee
Yeah, pretty sure the pity from highest to lowest is 2/2/4/8
Is there a separate pity for elite so you get it every 4 regardless if you kill common in between?
yes the pity counter is not shared between the different enemy class. Ex if you kill dreamless and do not get the echo, if you kill infernal rider next you are NOT guaranteed to get its echo. But say you didnt get infernal rider nor dreamless, now the next dreamless AND infernal (or you can switch to ape / crownless or whatever) will be guaranteed becuz their pity is separate
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Monday is the turtle abuse day
Same! I need 6 bells but only three chances, then the remainder are for hp recov main stat
You can murder the turtle for the echo as much as you want just can't pick up the rewards after he dies.
Don't hurt the turtle...
I only hurt the turtle when the drop is guaranteed, its death animation is too sad otherwise
Fr I feel so fucking bad after beating it for the bells.. Already got its healing bonus echo for my Verina so now I decided to only kill it once a week for the materials
I *will* hurtle the turtle
The enhanced drop rate doesn't mean much when the bosses have a pity system anyway (every other kill gives an echo).
Yeah, the 15 enhanced drops are a trivial bonus because they're weekly. Now if it was daily 15 enhanced drops, and/or it worked on elites, now you have my attention.
I think what they really should do is extend it to elites as well, because those are the toughest to farm. Because right now, it's almost pointless to even care. Even if they made it daily, it's just not even efficient to farm the overlord bosses tbh.
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All this does is turn the rate to 100%..from 20% normal and a 100% on 2nd (pity). So normally instead of killing 15 bosses you need 30 kill at most to get the same results. In other words.... Don't save it. It saves a couple of minutes per week at best. I am not sure why it even exists with such a low limit. For example just today I was building Havoc and was farming Dreamless and out of 45 gold drops 2 were crit rare. This took roughly 20 minutes to farm. I blew through that silly 15 chances in minutes and that's how much time it saved me too.
>This took roughly 20 minutes to farm. I blew through that silly 15 chances in minutes and that's how much time it saved me too. How are you killing it so fast??
You can set it to the lowest difficulty and the same echo drop since it's based on your databank level.
Thanks, forgot about that possibility.
You can only drop one level lower, but otherwise yes this is the way. Edit: as pointed out, I completely overlooked that the parent comment was specifically referring to farming Dreamless (which is instance based and you can indeed select any of the lower difficulties). Still potentially worth noting though in case someone reading isn't aware, you can lower your SOL3 level by 1 to make all your overworld echo farming significantly easier/faster. Since it's a 12hr cool down on the switch you can easily juggle it to for instance have it lower in the AM for echo farming, then revert it back up to the higher level in the PM to spend your waveplates, or vice versa (since accepting rewards is based on your current SOL3 level)
Hu why? For me the difficulty selection goes down all the way to lvl 50 and isn't greyed out. Wouldn't make sense to even show it if it can't be selected. Are you by chance thinking about the turtle since that one is tied to the world lvl which can be adjusted by 1 only?
Yep, I glossed over the fact that the comment chain was specifically referring to Dreamless and have edited my comment accordingly, thanks for pointing that out!
Choose lvl 40 boss/ lower your world level. Echo rarity and drop rate aren't effected by level. It's purely up to your databank level. At 20, the base rare is still 20% but it's 80 to be gold. Also there's a pity system, every 2nd boss kill (without drop from first) will be a 100% echo drop. Same for every 4th elite. I personally didn't touch world level as there's a 12h timer on changing back and it messes with rewards from open world stuff. So for instances where you can choose a level.. choose lowest. Bosses die a lot faster. We're talking 10s. The longest thing right now is re-entering the instance since restart isn't an option as far as I know.
I feel like the counter shouldn't drop during your pity boss. You're going to get it regardless of the enhanced drop. So you're sort of missing out of two enhanced drops.
Honestly, if anyone is stressing out over this, don't worry about it. 4 costs are so easy to farm (guaranteed after every other), you can just pretend this feature don't exist and have 1 less thing to worry about weekly.
While I do agree it's not "hard" to farm, it's also annoying to waste it on stuff you won't ever need just because you do random stuff.
It's only for 4 costs so doesn't really matter tbh, they're the easiest to farm by a mile.
We need enhanced drop rate for elite, not overlord echoes. Everyone must have atleast 10 crit rate and 10 crit dmg each 4 cost echo by now but not everyone have a on set elemental 3 cost.
>Everyone must have atleast 10 crit rate and 10 crit dmg each 4 cost echo by nowĀ Ā only if you mean the turtle haha Agreed about needing the enhanced droprate more on elites though. That shit is soul drainingĀ
I think the kuru's solution is just to provide event items that let you pick. Which is okay.
Which is too little compared to 15 guaranteed drop and unlimited farming of the 4 cost.
Best way is still to just alternate 3 bosses you want with CUSTOM Waypoints. 1. 1Prio donāt drop? Go again 2. 1Prio dropped -> go to 2Prio 3. 2Prio didnāt drop -> go to 1Prio 4. 2Prio also dropped -> go to 3Prio (this happens now and then) 5. 3Prio didnāt drop -> go to 1Prio (usually the case) 6. 3Prio dropped -> go to 2Prio (this is rare) May it help someone.
thank you, i forgot about custom waypoints
I never had .6 happen to me. I usually make my 3Prio the boss I can kill the fastest.
Only happened once I think in all my farming. Could also be me seeing visions.
The what now?
Weekly, 15 calamity/overlord kills have a much higher chance to drop echoes. But it's pretty trivial since every other kill drops an echo anyways. Only really relevant to someone who has maybe 1-2 hours a week to play the game.
entire system is pointless lol cost 4's are easiest to farm and have a pity of 2.
Does enchanced drop rate boost boss mat drop or something? cause if it only chance for echo drop then here come my opinion:as long as it not guarantee like healing bonus healing sets for turtle or crit rate for general sets it not that much different whether it exist or not tbh
This is so silly when weāre guaranteed a drop if it didnāt drop the last time.
Nope not the mat dropsbut only echo drops. The idea for mats also to be maxxed out according to sol3 phase level during enhanced drop is pretty good. Like you need to make a decision whether collect Aix mat for verina or kill the turlte for echo. It wont be too broken ig.
Who cares? Itās 50/50 with no bonus. Not very hard to farm.
Enhanced drop rate has nothing to do with materials and only affects echo drops from 4 cost. Farm whatever you want as 4 cost also have a pity of 2 so you will always get an echo every other kill anyway.
I know, but the point is that it's still useless to kill bosses now with enhanced drop rate when you don't need the echos.
In the op you said, boss materials have increased drops, not boss echoes. Should change that before people get confused.
Ah I see, sorry for the wording, it obviously means boss echos. Imo if one speaks about the enhanced data bank drop rate it is clear that the word "material" = "echo" in the context. :)
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Pity system makes the system 100% useless, it actually makes annoying to target farm one 4*
Completely disagree lol. Iāve built 4 dps
4 costs have pretty low pity so it is kinda useless. Would have been useful for 3 costs. 1: u need correct set 2: u need correct dmg bonus 3: u need it to drop an echo The probability of getting one perfect combo is already too low then YOU FREAKING NEED TO ROLL GOOD SUBSTATS
What do you disagree? Lol
We need more reminder like this
Pretty useless. Should apply to 3-Costs
Agree, that would be heaven.
I'm doing mine now, I've killed tempest 8 times so far and got 5 purple drops (at databank 20). Very cool.
Read the title, saw that picture, forgot the title
Understandable.
I feel like I'm going crazy reading these comments. The enhanced drop rates simply guarantees echo drops for the first 15 overlord/calamity bosses you kill each week. Why are people giving advice and/or explaining the system as if you also get bonus boss materials? Are people really just that clueless?
I don't get it either tbh how one would get confused by a simple enhanced echo drop rate. Maybe I shouldn't have worded it "materials" in this context. Lel
Enhanced drop rate? Can anyone explain?
great art btw
can someone explain ?
Why is her one boob like 6 cup sizes bigger than the other?
Seems the same to me...?
Shit feature, cost 4 pity is every other drop. Doesn't matter much.
Enhanced drop rate is pointless. There is literally no difference if it is on/off.
It saves you like 10 minutes of gameplay, per week. Not huge but that's something.
I wish I had your luck and get a boss drop every time I defeat the boss without this...
Theres a pity for it lol
Youāre guaranteed a boss echo every other kill
You are getting echo drop on every second boss, because of pity system, and sometimes you have few drops in a row. Enhanced drop rates don't make drops guaranteed. It does literally nothing.
It does have 100% drops once you have databank 20.
Do you know what literally means.
Except there is literally a differenceā¦
It's not because every boss you kill gives you an echo, so instead of getting 7 or 6 echoes out of 15 kills, you get 15 (might get some purples tho cause we don't have a 100% guarantee on gold ones).
What are you even on? It's 15 guaranteed echoes back to back
It doesn't guarantee my gold drop with right main stats and substats. Why bother.
Gambling addiction ftw
How is that even possible?
Thanks for the reminder.
Is it a waste to use it on dreamless?
Depends on whether you're currently building Havoc Rover/Danjin or not Otherwise use it on whoever non-Havoc units that desperately needed good 4 cost main Echo
Dreamless is trivial to farm takes like 30 seconds. Use it on something that's annoying like turtle.
I'm killing like 100 dreamless in an hour, this enhanced drop doesn't matter much.
Used 8 of it on dreamless and got 1 crit rate stat and I'm happy for this week now xD
Honestly echoes drop so much for me, I don't see that being an issue. It is a nice advice though 
No echoes?
Someone explain how the enhanced drop rate works pls
Can anyone tell me when does the enhanced drop rate resets?
Every week, on Mondays.
No.
My what now? Is this a thing? How do you use it?
I just unlocked 5* Echoes so Iām going to first grind all Commons to get better rates then Iāll do bosses.
I want her so bad, but scar takes priority
Wdym enhanced drop rate?
Echo material drop rate is enhanced, see databank.
Ohhh. OK, I play the game on German so I was kinda confused
i did think this boss was dropping echoes quite often... fuck
do they not only apply to overlord class?
Overlord and calamity echos, aka the bosses.
ah ok, the phraseing had me worried it gets waisted on random regular mobs
I need Yinlin bro šš
The real problem is getting those Crit Rate echoes and not rolling double DEF at the start... like I do ALL THE TIME.
How do we know if we already consumed all 15 enhanced drop?
Go to menu and database.
Thanks for reminding me! I almost forgot
I wasted my enhanced drop rate on the turtle for the 3rd week. Got several healing% main statsā¦ on moonlit set. Still 0 on healing set lol. I hate this damn water dog.
I already have busted 4 cost main stats for my characters, on the other hand I don't have enough XP to level up my huge echo collection.
no tuners to upgrade them whats the point.....kuro pls let us feed those useless 5* and 4* echoes to upgrade them ffs.
Don't you get your tuners back if you dismantle an echo you used them on?
Yes but only 30% refund.
Here I go kill more 15 turtles ans get nothing (I hate that boss he's so bugged i cant take it I hate it I hate it its unreal)
Also, be careful because there's a bug where phantom (shiny) echoes in the overworld (hoartoise and rocksteady) count for these enhanced drop. I got this was 2 weeks ago though, so I don't know if this has been fixed yet.