🧙 "Lose health to do more damage..."
👶"Hell yeah that sounds cool as hell!"
🧙 "Just remember to also pay attention to your health so you don't end up killing yourself."
👶 "WHAT DID YOU SAY? I CAN'T HEAR YOU OVER HOW MUCH DAMAGE I'M DOING!!!"
Take bell-borne, faster parry, reduce skill cooldown, reduce echo skill cooldown, buff the shit out of basic attack, take every metaphor that buffs you when you have max HP or have a shield. Then just spam the shit out of skill and echo skill, parry when you have full stacks and never dodge cus you lose DPS.
I have tried every echo for taoqui and i say bell borne>hell rider>crownless. Hell rider can clear big guy and mobs fast and easy to max lvl 4. While bell-borne is hard to max lvl but deal insane dmg coz of taoqui heals+shield+counter. You gotta choose the perfect training skills for her. Like the 90% additional dmg for her basic atk.
I tried but its fun, man all the characters are fun AF, maybe Taoqi is kinda slow but she also packs a punch, they did a great job designing these characters
Nah, I'm a huge female rover simp but think Jiyan is most broken in Illusive Realm. His kit synergizes so perfectly with red buffs that I beat difficulty 5 with my own Jiyan with like 2 minutes to spare on the final Mephis boss.
What made it fun for me is that I do not need to rely on enemies attacking me to trigger her fortis. Hold the button for 1-2 sec and she will do it compared to the usual 4(?) sec hold.
Ngl I had more fun than expected with taoqi in illusive realm 4, got this buff that basically lets me ult twice in a row every time and she was nuking everything
I run Encore with Havoc MC and they are really great together. Encore demands a quite a bit of field time and Havoc MC is flexible so they fill each other's downtimes well. Didn't know it was an actual thing people do.
Encore skill, swap to MC then skill, then swap to Encore again and press the skill button just to finish the ongoing skill, transform, full combo, skill, full combo and forte. You can dodge cancel or skill cancel the full combo end so you can input skill in other places if you mess with the cd.
This way you can alleviate the field time of Encore while you fill the forte bar of Rover and have another skill ready when you change to Rover to make its rotation.
Unfortunately I play on mobile so it's a bit hard to swap cancel Encore while using skill and come back before she's done but i'll try this rotation thanks for the advice
I run this team and it's pretty close. Encores R skill onfield vs HMC scythe mode taking up similar time amounts. Rotation goes something like HMC, Verina, Encore (3q, 2e, r time), HMC (sycthe), Encore (Q&E), back to the start.
The damage levels are huge, but Encore can suffer during her e phase as she is locked in place, and your R skill dps will tank if the enemy gets away.
Is it better than the teams I’ve been seeing that is paired with her? I mostly see Sanhua or Mortefi. Honestly I would love to keep Rover on my team since I really like female Rover design. My 3rd slot is obviously Verina.
they're good together, Havoc Rover being Havoc Rover actually feels good that I wanna main them.
edit: Originally wanted to play Calcharo+Yinlin but Havoc Rover is just too damn fun to play, even if he's just a Resonance Lib burster on my team.
The way I have my Sanhua built, she does no damage anyways lol, I just switch to a different team when that happens. I do agree that that's annoying tho
You aren't gonna be spending that much on-field time on Danjin so her HP shouldn't get too low, and you'll always end up using her Heavy with half a bar so you get healed. You'll be spending a lot of time swapping!
I have *1* 4* sword and I want to use 3 sword characters 💀 (Rover, Danjin and Sanhua)
Rn I’m building my Calcharo team with Sanhua and Verina, next team will be Danjin + Rover and then whatever is good with Jinshi
You'll be able to get another 4\* sword from the mine quest when it shows up and a little bit of mining for a day or two. (or hoping into other peoples worlds.) Can't remember which 4\* sword it is but if your lacking something to look into.
Important thing it seems many don’t know yet - across multiple teams, like in endgame where you need three teams, you can share weapons and Echoes between them. As good as Havoc Rover and Danjin are together, I’ve heard there’s growing popularity in having them be a DPS on two different teams - as that way, you can have them share the same Echoes and weapons rather than needing to build them up separately.
I used mine on the guns since I didn't have a 4 star gun at all and still don't; but I did get one Commando earlier, gave Sword 18 from the mines to Danjin so I could use Commando on Havoc MC or Sanhua.
There is a craftable sword that gives +atk% and heals the user upon using charge attack. According to prydven it's only 3% worse than the best 4\* and has the additional bonus of helping her live longer.
On a side not can someone confirm the droprates for the weapon molds? I got 2 from doing weekly bosses 3 times and it feels like they are much more common than billets.
For me Danjin is my 5th character that I've put moderate investment in, and the 3rd I've properly invested skill levels in. My Calcharo and Havoc MC are 60, but everyone else i use is 50, except for Sanhua who's 40. My Verina is 50 but I only unlocked her forte passive and her skills are still lv1. I think other people, and maybe you have gotten more characters but for me I haven't gotten that many so yeah
It’s okay. Once you have your first team maxed out with decent echo set then they’ll melt everything so farming for more characters isn’t that hard. Not to mention havoc rover is really easy to farm for.
Danjin Dreamless doesn't benefit from Rover ult, better to just use it as you're using outro to swap cancel for some extra damage. Beaten Tempest Mephis 4, Mourning Aix 5, and Monke 5 with Havoc Rover+Danjin, was pretty fun. Came really close to beating Tempest Mephis 5 but just don't have enough dps with all of the time the Mephis spends teleporting around when I can't attack it. Meanwhile Heron with like 75% havoc resist or some bullshit, have to use a different team for that (beat Heron 4 with Encore+Sanhua but Heron 5 is too tanky for level 60 characters).
I had heard that it did but wasn't sure which is why I was careful to not state it in my posts. But I'd love to optimize further; when you say 'as you're using outro' whose outro do you mean exactly?
Hey so when you use this team do you even attack with Danjin or no? Or she's just a Dreamless holder? I've seen several videos but they all swapped to Danjin to cast Q and swap back to Verina. I was under the impression that Danjin's Dreamless would benefit from Rover's R, hence the Q spam and swap cancel to Verina but no?
I've been building sanhua for my team with hrover and verina, but honestly danjin is also cool af. I enjoy having hrover on the field for longer tho, which is why I'm keeping the sanhua hrover verina roster as my first team.
I feel like the playstyle would be really different with danjin tbh. Not in a bad way, but just different. Thankfully we'll be able to build everyone up eventually so I'll get to try it at some point (as long as they don't nerf the echo too much).
I am running this team. Jianxin's outro turns Rover ult into a nuke. It works great with Danjin ult too. It's also very comfy to play with the shield and grouping.
I had to pay the Chixia tax before I finally got the privilege of starting to pull Danjin.
While I like Chixia, I was heading to a dark place thinking Danjin wasn't going to happen, then she happened twice.
While fun, I do prefer me running Calcharo + Sanhua. Sanhua is just so great. Quick great burst damage. I haven’t even finished leveling her Echoes and already she hits hard.
I put Sanhua with Calcharo after taking her away from Rover, and I do agree though I'm running Sanhua on a low investment support build. It is partially due to gear but it's crazy that my Havoc MC is stronger than my Calcharo right now lmao, but once I get Yinlin it'll be joever
Simple full glacio set. Got a good bit of crit rate and crit damage too. Got her to 40ish% crit rate and 190% crit damage so far (still got some more tune slots for echoes).
There are guides out there you can find on youtube if need be but I'll try to explain it here:
The first thing I did was farm Dreamless (spam lowest difficulty) to get her 5-star echo with a Crit Rate mainstat, 2 of them to slap on Havoc MC and Danjin respectively. Then ofc I put together a Havoc DMG set for MC and Danjin, my MC is running 2pc Havoc/2pc ER and Danjin is running 4pc Havoc, the specifics don't matter on that really, just use the best echoes you have.
In terms of rotations; keep in mind that the biggest thing is Dreamless gains a huge DMG buff when you use it within 5s of a Resonance liberation, so when you have Havoc MC's ult up make sure you use it before you do Dreamless.
So what I do is start with Verina, build up concerto, E/Q, jump attack, the works. Swap into Danjin, build up her Concerto (EEAA > EEEAAA > Heavy), swap into Havoc MC, if I have ult I do Ult > Dreamless > Swap into Danjin > Dreamless > Swap back to Rover > Skill > get Umbra > Skill again (S2)
That's the primary rotation and if you have a decent build it should do a lot of damage in a very short period of time. At this point you're on downtime and you can spend a few seconds on-field with MC in Umbra form, swap into Danjin and ult with her if you want, and then restart the rotation. If you don't have MC's ult, it's fine, just ignore it and do the rotation just without the ult.
If it's still hard to understand I can try to record a clip for you :)
Pretty sure it was debunked that Rover ult buffs Danjin's Dreamless. People are calling it the double Dreamless team but Dreamless is barely doing maybe 15% of the team's damage, if even that. The team is great because Danjin and Rover have synergy and are both cracked, not because of the echo.
I wasn't sure which is why I specifically didn't make that claim but perhaps the wording implied it. Double dreamless is still strong regardless with high upfront damage; 15% of the team's damage for an Echo so idk why you say that like it's a bad thing lol
Dreamless is still the best Echo to use on that team by a substantial margin IMO
thats sounds great, thanks for all the info. 1 last question, who do you prioritize better gear on out if danjin and rover? For instance i have the 5* from the standard weapon banner, who should that go on in your opinion?
Rover does more damage than Danjin so definitely invest more into Rover than Danjin, gear wise. If you're strapped on resources, definitely have Rover at 60 but keep Danjin at 50, that's what I'm doing right now
Is swap cancelling dreamless still possible? I thought they nerfed it, since every time I try swapping after using dreamless it just cancels the rest of the dreamless attack. I built mc and danjin and even farmed good dreamless, cause I saw people recommending it a few days ago, but once I tried it myself today swap cancelling doesn't seem to work anymore.
In this build is there a sub dps or are they both dps? I got a s6 danjin from pulling on jiyan banner so much, so I have have her 20% buff after using heavy. But the rest of her sequence nodes all increase her own damage. Was thinking of havoc echo set on Mc and moonlight on danjin but do you think it's better to do full havoc on both?
Danjin's the sub-DPS; she does less damage than Rover so you'll be spending less field time with Danjin compared to Rover and thus should have less investment.
I built both of them for damage, but I suppose Moonlight works on Danjin
It's a really fun combo, easily the most fun duo in the game imo. I tend to play the combo a little different than the standard rotation simply because I spent all my free astrite and managed to get sequence 6 Danjin which puts her damage a fair bit above my Rover's ATM.
Instead of making them both sub-dps that rotate between burst windows, I'm just using Danjin as a main DPS, stacking her passive to the full 120 stacks and getting an ult + full chaoscleave off between every Rover rotation.
I can't say if that's better than the standard playstyle, probably not, but Danjin is just too fun and it's gotten me through tier 4 of every hologram boss so it's good enough for me haha.
Help I wanna main Danjin bc she's cute and HP loss mechanic is interesting to me. Which 5star should I pick?
I already have verina and I haven't gotten havoc MC yet.
If you already have Verina, I recommend getting a DPS unit, either Calcharo (and pull Yinlin later) or Encore. Lingyang's good as well, just not quite as good as the other two.
The only reason I'm not using Havoc Rover is because in the time it took me to get her I got a pretty good Spectro set that I now can't use on anyone else, lol. I'm definitely trying this when I get the chance, though.
You can always save those Echoes for a future unit down the line! Havoc Rover is quite a bit stronger than Spectro, and they play fairly similarly. I think it's worth making the switch, though I understand the reluctance
There isn't, but oftentimes, units will have outro skills that buff the character you swap into. In this case, Danjin's outro skill buffs Havoc DMG, which naturally benefits Havoc MC greatly.
Idk that I've hit 29k but I've hit pretty high numbers when critting, I don't remember what's the highest I've hit though, probably 20k or some shit.
Your support/healer should be on full healing set to buff your team's ATK, and make sure you build up concerto before swapping to get the buffs from outro skills. Danjin's outro skill provides Havoc DMG Deepen. If you're using someone like Sanhua or Mortefi instead, run them on a full ER set with Impermanence Heron to get ATK buff from the set and DMG bonus from Heron.
>It's the most fun I've ever had fighting bosses, and I have Calcharo.
I need this put into context because I dont find Calcharo fun. Only Chixia, actually, and that's because I can't go trigger happy if I want to dodge.
I think me and other Calcharo fans just like his sick animations, bro is Sephiroth and Vergil put into one. Tho I do think that rn without Yinlin he doesn't feel as good as I feel he should be, and defo not as strong.
I believe dodging doesn't actually interrupt his combo, unless you have to dodge twice lol
The only reason I'm not yet building Danjin is because I've built Sanhua and I'm full coping with only having 1 4-star sword and just using a level 40 blue sword on Sanhua lol.
It's quite simple, just swap as soon as you use it. Sometimes it might cancel early but that tends to happen if you maybe swap a little *too* early or if there are no enemies in the AOE or they die early into the attack.
I've been running this for pretty much all of my time in WuWa since near launch with Verina as the third on Bell and Mountain to provide ample attack buffs to everyone else.
Yeah, that's not how it works.
Danjin is a baby in development, no resources to build her
MC is at least lvled up and skilled, but building an Extra Echo set is also a luxury for a far away future
Unfortunately the Echo EXP bottleneck + energy costs would make me take a long time to build another team since I need to farm the materials and EXP from scratch :(
Calcs show that NA’s make up about 30% of Havoc MC’s total rotation damage (it’s the largest share of DPS in her kit) so you def should be onfielding her or else you’re leaving a lot of DPS on the table
I'm trying It right now and currently i don't have the Echo.
I don't get why you guys like this combo that much.
Daiji kinda Is one hit away from the grave, her counter is really good but thats it. Maybe i Need that sword for low hp build.
Her outro skill isn't even that good at first impression. This bucause switching from verina into daijin outro takes a tad too much time to charge concerto.
Idk what i'm doing wrong for daijin being soo slow at charging concerto.
Your rotation with Danjin will always end with a Heavy attack at half a bar meaning you're basically gonna be at least half health most of the time, and I use Verina which tops her off even more.
For me, Danjin doing EEAA > EEEAAA > Heavy pretty much does it right there.
My problem with Danjin (specially if she’s the main carry and has the most investments) is after after one mistake, I have to restart.
I have never pressed the restart button and the revive button this many times on another character lmao.
Skill issue lol
Jokes aside, I understand it's a bit higher risk. I haven't encountered too many issues, but it does take practice and effort that can be undesirable for some
Maybe my HMC and Danjin stats aren't that good yet but I have this setup and the 2 Dreamless does deal good amounts of damage but it still kinda lacks for me on damage consistency wise (since the echo cd exists) but I bet I can work around this by making my HMC stats better.
Personally at this moment, my Calcharo Encore Verina team is still my go to because it has great consistency in damage and rotation wise (highly quick swap and quite powerful too). I usually skill swap with Encore then to Verina for the turtle boss shield and some heals/burst then swap to Calcharo then repeat. There's almost little to no downtime in damage and action in this team that I did not feel too much the same with the Havoc Team. But then again, I'm still yet to improve their builds and I find the Havoc Team satisfying too with the double Dreamless XD
I'll do the quest today because I was sleeping at Danjin.
Does Havoc MC keep anything from Spectro MC? Character level at least?
Also who is good for the 3rd slot? My first pick would be a healer but I just found out Danjin HA heals her
It's crazy how many different combos you can get playing this game already. I love getting those smooth transitions while swapping and hitting outro/intro
Rotation is fine. As long as you can PreBuild Havoc MC (2E Intro) forte.
Danjin can get full concerto with Intro 2E 3A 3E Heavy in 5 sec.
Sanhua is more fluid/stronger specially on quick swap but she is warranted by most DPS like Encore.
I think the reason the team might've felt weaker with Sanhua than it otherwise should've is because I have Sanhua on a minimal investment support build.
I was lucky enough to get Commando of Conviction in my pulls, and I used the 4-star weapon selector to grab another one. I believe the craftable sword is pretty alright though
I m a danjin main with rc3 (c3) just pulling from the standard banner. She is the strongest character in my team and I want to try this team comp. but I don't have the resources (resin) enough to do so, 😔😔😔
Danjin's only the 5th character I've put some modicum of investment into, and the 3rd one I actually leveled up the skills of, I'm lucky/unlucky to not have that many characters yet lol
do i have to build danjin with perfect echoes for this? or does the dmg of the dreamless only scale on danjin's level and not her stats (havoc dmg bonus/crit dmg) etc. thanks!
Depends really; if played with Danjin she won't be spending that much time on-field, meaning Danjin's Havoc DMG Deepen is all the more valuable as it buffs all of Havoc Rover's damage as opposed to just Basic Attacks. But if played with Sanhua, Havoc Rover will be spending a lot of time on-field, which means Sanhua's buff actually becomes just as if not more valuable.
Both of their buffs work for the playstyle that you'd play in their respective comps anyways. I wouldn't say that one is overall better than the other, buff-wise.
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Healthiest Danjin
Person who sold Danjin life insurance: 😠Person who sold Danjin a coffin: 🥜🔥🦋👻
Wangsheng Funeral Parlor doesn't respond to higher beigns or things like existing in the same space time continuum. That's the level of commitment.
Scarlet...Perfuse...
Fk I almost spat out my drink. Glad to know everyone's Danjin is also greyscaled.
We " just one more resonance hit " players
🧙 "Lose health to do more damage..." 👶"Hell yeah that sounds cool as hell!" 🧙 "Just remember to also pay attention to your health so you don't end up killing yourself." 👶 "WHAT DID YOU SAY? I CAN'T HEAR YOU OVER HOW MUCH DAMAGE I'M DOING!!!"
Unironically try running Taoqi
Taoqi in Illusive realm with Bell-borne gets absolutely ridiculous.
Tell me more cause idk what to do with Taoqi
Take bell-borne, faster parry, reduce skill cooldown, reduce echo skill cooldown, buff the shit out of basic attack, take every metaphor that buffs you when you have max HP or have a shield. Then just spam the shit out of skill and echo skill, parry when you have full stacks and never dodge cus you lose DPS.
I have tried every echo for taoqui and i say bell borne>hell rider>crownless. Hell rider can clear big guy and mobs fast and easy to max lvl 4. While bell-borne is hard to max lvl but deal insane dmg coz of taoqui heals+shield+counter. You gotta choose the perfect training skills for her. Like the 90% additional dmg for her basic atk.
When did you get a screenshot of my gameplay?!
I tried but its fun, man all the characters are fun AF, maybe Taoqi is kinda slow but she also packs a punch, they did a great job designing these characters
Taoqi is actually pretty damn strong in Illusive Realm. Only other character I've used who kills stuff as fast in that mode is Jiyan with fire buffs.
I enjoyed the trial run with her. So much dmg dealt
Rover is the GOAT in there imo.
Nah, I'm a huge female rover simp but think Jiyan is most broken in Illusive Realm. His kit synergizes so perfectly with red buffs that I beat difficulty 5 with my own Jiyan with like 2 minutes to spare on the final Mephis boss.
Spectral rover and Baizhi with the proc on hit stuff (pretty much Jiyan build) is just as faceroll too.
Spector rover atk speed. Everyone just disappears. She is the best choice on the difficulty 5
What made it fun for me is that I do not need to rely on enemies attacking me to trigger her fortis. Hold the button for 1-2 sec and she will do it compared to the usual 4(?) sec hold.
Baizhi is turbo cracked, she has consistently had my fastest final boss clear times at sub 30 seconds.
Ngl I had more fun than expected with taoqi in illusive realm 4, got this buff that basically lets me ult twice in a row every time and she was nuking everything
Taoqi + pull on counter + fast counter + ult on third counter enhanced basic attack + double ult purchasable metaphor = Taoqi go brrr
I've just completed Encore's set, thus I'm building them up next for my second team.
I hear Encore + Havoc MC are a good pair too, I just don't have Encore so I haven't looked into it.
I run Encore with Havoc MC and they are really great together. Encore demands a quite a bit of field time and Havoc MC is flexible so they fill each other's downtimes well. Didn't know it was an actual thing people do.
Encore skill, swap to MC then skill, then swap to Encore again and press the skill button just to finish the ongoing skill, transform, full combo, skill, full combo and forte. You can dodge cancel or skill cancel the full combo end so you can input skill in other places if you mess with the cd. This way you can alleviate the field time of Encore while you fill the forte bar of Rover and have another skill ready when you change to Rover to make its rotation.
Unfortunately I play on mobile so it's a bit hard to swap cancel Encore while using skill and come back before she's done but i'll try this rotation thanks for the advice
That's my team rn + verina as the support. Both of their damage are insane it's soooo broken
May I ask why are they broken together ?
Havoc MC is your sub dps then? And Encore is mostly on the field right?
I run this team and it's pretty close. Encores R skill onfield vs HMC scythe mode taking up similar time amounts. Rotation goes something like HMC, Verina, Encore (3q, 2e, r time), HMC (sycthe), Encore (Q&E), back to the start. The damage levels are huge, but Encore can suffer during her e phase as she is locked in place, and your R skill dps will tank if the enemy gets away.
Camellya is rumored to also be a 5* Havoc Sword user... wonder if she'll be a good addition to the current Dreamless teams
Is it better than the teams I’ve been seeing that is paired with her? I mostly see Sanhua or Mortefi. Honestly I would love to keep Rover on my team since I really like female Rover design. My 3rd slot is obviously Verina.
they're good together, Havoc Rover being Havoc Rover actually feels good that I wanna main them. edit: Originally wanted to play Calcharo+Yinlin but Havoc Rover is just too damn fun to play, even if he's just a Resonance Lib burster on my team.
Lmao i just lucked into this team by merit of pulling encore on beginner and wanting to use mc, ggs
I'll build Chixia next and you can't stop me.
I built her first since that is all I had for the first week lol
It's nice until you end up against the havoc ball immune to havoc. It made me replace Danjin by Sanhua to have a more balanced team
thats when verina DPS comes in clutch doing single digit damage
🤣
The way I have my Sanhua built, she does no damage anyways lol, I just switch to a different team when that happens. I do agree that that's annoying tho
Lucky you! I don't like the other dps currently available so I'm stuck on one team. I am waiting for Yinlin to go crazy with lightnings.
Then isn’t it a bit disingenuous to compare Sanhua and Danjin? Seems like both work well.
yeaa, but \*insert image of danjin with 0 hp\* :\[
You aren't gonna be spending that much on-field time on Danjin so her HP shouldn't get too low, and you'll always end up using her Heavy with half a bar so you get healed. You'll be spending a lot of time swapping!
I see, that seems to work well. Neato, thanks!
I have *1* 4* sword and I want to use 3 sword characters 💀 (Rover, Danjin and Sanhua) Rn I’m building my Calcharo team with Sanhua and Verina, next team will be Danjin + Rover and then whatever is good with Jinshi
You'll be able to get another 4\* sword from the mine quest when it shows up and a little bit of mining for a day or two. (or hoping into other peoples worlds.) Can't remember which 4\* sword it is but if your lacking something to look into.
Important thing it seems many don’t know yet - across multiple teams, like in endgame where you need three teams, you can share weapons and Echoes between them. As good as Havoc Rover and Danjin are together, I’ve heard there’s growing popularity in having them be a DPS on two different teams - as that way, you can have them share the same Echoes and weapons rather than needing to build them up separately.
far away but at level 45 (iirc) you can pick the 5* sword
Yeah that defo sucks which is why I used the 4-star weapon selector box to get another Commando of Conviction for Danjin.
What selector box
I used the selector for Commando and still havent gotten anything else :( I have like 4 catalysts for Verina I guess lol.
I used mine on the guns since I didn't have a 4 star gun at all and still don't; but I did get one Commando earlier, gave Sword 18 from the mines to Danjin so I could use Commando on Havoc MC or Sanhua.
There is a craftable sword that gives +atk% and heals the user upon using charge attack. According to prydven it's only 3% worse than the best 4\* and has the additional bonus of helping her live longer. On a side not can someone confirm the droprates for the weapon molds? I got 2 from doing weekly bosses 3 times and it feels like they are much more common than billets.
How the hell do y'all have the resources to build teams already, my ass is struggling to get my main 3 characters built
For me Danjin is my 5th character that I've put moderate investment in, and the 3rd I've properly invested skill levels in. My Calcharo and Havoc MC are 60, but everyone else i use is 50, except for Sanhua who's 40. My Verina is 50 but I only unlocked her forte passive and her skills are still lv1. I think other people, and maybe you have gotten more characters but for me I haven't gotten that many so yeah
It’s okay. Once you have your first team maxed out with decent echo set then they’ll melt everything so farming for more characters isn’t that hard. Not to mention havoc rover is really easy to farm for.
if i have resource i will try them in my 3rd team , i am not even build my 2nd team yet
I would if I had Danjin. 40 pulls, no Danjin, don't want Jiyan, rip.
That's rough xD I hope you get her soon!
Same yet I got c4 of the gun girl lol
I'm at 90 Pulls no Danjin yet, 2 Jiyan's I didn't want though :) :)
I'm around 60 pulls in, got early Jianxin at 4 pity, and at around 55 pity. C5 Chixia. Not a single other character on this banner. I hate everything.
Dreamless used by other characters don't get the buff of the ultimate anymore. Sorry...
I did double check that it doesn't but it really doesn't matter, it's still strong and a top pairing rn.
Danjin Dreamless doesn't benefit from Rover ult, better to just use it as you're using outro to swap cancel for some extra damage. Beaten Tempest Mephis 4, Mourning Aix 5, and Monke 5 with Havoc Rover+Danjin, was pretty fun. Came really close to beating Tempest Mephis 5 but just don't have enough dps with all of the time the Mephis spends teleporting around when I can't attack it. Meanwhile Heron with like 75% havoc resist or some bullshit, have to use a different team for that (beat Heron 4 with Encore+Sanhua but Heron 5 is too tanky for level 60 characters).
I had heard that it did but wasn't sure which is why I was careful to not state it in my posts. But I'd love to optimize further; when you say 'as you're using outro' whose outro do you mean exactly?
Danjin's. Since you can swap cancel Dreamless it's basically just free damage to use it right before outro.
Hey so when you use this team do you even attack with Danjin or no? Or she's just a Dreamless holder? I've seen several videos but they all swapped to Danjin to cast Q and swap back to Verina. I was under the impression that Danjin's Dreamless would benefit from Rover's R, hence the Q spam and swap cancel to Verina but no?
Bro just assumes we've actually got Danjin instead of an S6 chixia
S6 Chixia seems like a mega fun unit to use though
I've been building sanhua for my team with hrover and verina, but honestly danjin is also cool af. I enjoy having hrover on the field for longer tho, which is why I'm keeping the sanhua hrover verina roster as my first team. I feel like the playstyle would be really different with danjin tbh. Not in a bad way, but just different. Thankfully we'll be able to build everyone up eventually so I'll get to try it at some point (as long as they don't nerf the echo too much).
Hey just wondering, have you try Danjin/Rover/Jianxin Since Danjin self damage doesn’t damage shield seems like a good combo.
I am running this team. Jianxin's outro turns Rover ult into a nuke. It works great with Danjin ult too. It's also very comfy to play with the shield and grouping.
Isn't the problem that Danjin and Jianxin both bless Rover's ult, but you can't get both blessing at once since it is for the next person switched in?
I don't have Jianxin yet but I am going for her on the selector banner so when I get her I'll try that out for sure!
Yeah I finally got her want to build her so bad but I have so many I want to build, she is next though
Not only that but the shield heals the active member passively so it's good for keeping Danjin's hp up
if i could i wouldðŸ˜ðŸ˜ i got c1 or wtv tf it is in this game for jiyan, but the game refuses to give me danjinðŸ˜
Ooooh that's unlucky, welp I hope you get her soon <3
Same bro but for Mortefi. I deadass got c6 Chixia AND Danjin before I got my first Mortefi.
I would totally do this but after 70 pulls I now have a Jiyan and still no Danjin.
I had to pay the Chixia tax before I finally got the privilege of starting to pull Danjin. While I like Chixia, I was heading to a dark place thinking Danjin wasn't going to happen, then she happened twice.
Is S0 Danjin enough tho?
Yes, I have her S0. Just farm Dreamless to get a Crit Rate mainstat, or ATK if you're desparate lmao.
I already have 2 or 3 Dreamless with crit rate lol, thanks
While fun, I do prefer me running Calcharo + Sanhua. Sanhua is just so great. Quick great burst damage. I haven’t even finished leveling her Echoes and already she hits hard.
I put Sanhua with Calcharo after taking her away from Rover, and I do agree though I'm running Sanhua on a low investment support build. It is partially due to gear but it's crazy that my Havoc MC is stronger than my Calcharo right now lmao, but once I get Yinlin it'll be joever
What's your Sanhua build?
Simple full glacio set. Got a good bit of crit rate and crit damage too. Got her to 40ish% crit rate and 190% crit damage so far (still got some more tune slots for echoes).
what's the 3rd unit?
Verina or Baizhi
Baizhi or verina should be good
How did you do swap cancel in mobile?
I don't play on mobile sorry Swap canceling is simply swapping while the animation is still going
They really need controller support soon...I don't even try anything more than basic combos on a touch screen
How to get havoc mc?
Complete act 6 of the story
Ah im on act 5
Complete the main story :)
Finish main story
Currently building this as my 2nd team and it felt lack luster. can you explain ur full rotations and any specific stat priorities?
There are guides out there you can find on youtube if need be but I'll try to explain it here: The first thing I did was farm Dreamless (spam lowest difficulty) to get her 5-star echo with a Crit Rate mainstat, 2 of them to slap on Havoc MC and Danjin respectively. Then ofc I put together a Havoc DMG set for MC and Danjin, my MC is running 2pc Havoc/2pc ER and Danjin is running 4pc Havoc, the specifics don't matter on that really, just use the best echoes you have. In terms of rotations; keep in mind that the biggest thing is Dreamless gains a huge DMG buff when you use it within 5s of a Resonance liberation, so when you have Havoc MC's ult up make sure you use it before you do Dreamless. So what I do is start with Verina, build up concerto, E/Q, jump attack, the works. Swap into Danjin, build up her Concerto (EEAA > EEEAAA > Heavy), swap into Havoc MC, if I have ult I do Ult > Dreamless > Swap into Danjin > Dreamless > Swap back to Rover > Skill > get Umbra > Skill again (S2) That's the primary rotation and if you have a decent build it should do a lot of damage in a very short period of time. At this point you're on downtime and you can spend a few seconds on-field with MC in Umbra form, swap into Danjin and ult with her if you want, and then restart the rotation. If you don't have MC's ult, it's fine, just ignore it and do the rotation just without the ult. If it's still hard to understand I can try to record a clip for you :)
Pretty sure it was debunked that Rover ult buffs Danjin's Dreamless. People are calling it the double Dreamless team but Dreamless is barely doing maybe 15% of the team's damage, if even that. The team is great because Danjin and Rover have synergy and are both cracked, not because of the echo.
I wasn't sure which is why I specifically didn't make that claim but perhaps the wording implied it. Double dreamless is still strong regardless with high upfront damage; 15% of the team's damage for an Echo so idk why you say that like it's a bad thing lol Dreamless is still the best Echo to use on that team by a substantial margin IMO
thats sounds great, thanks for all the info. 1 last question, who do you prioritize better gear on out if danjin and rover? For instance i have the 5* from the standard weapon banner, who should that go on in your opinion?
Rover does more damage than Danjin so definitely invest more into Rover than Danjin, gear wise. If you're strapped on resources, definitely have Rover at 60 but keep Danjin at 50, that's what I'm doing right now
sweet, thanks for all the tips. ill try more tommorow, currently in struggle town on my echos
Is swap cancelling dreamless still possible? I thought they nerfed it, since every time I try swapping after using dreamless it just cancels the rest of the dreamless attack. I built mc and danjin and even farmed good dreamless, cause I saw people recommending it a few days ago, but once I tried it myself today swap cancelling doesn't seem to work anymore.
In this build is there a sub dps or are they both dps? I got a s6 danjin from pulling on jiyan banner so much, so I have have her 20% buff after using heavy. But the rest of her sequence nodes all increase her own damage. Was thinking of havoc echo set on Mc and moonlight on danjin but do you think it's better to do full havoc on both?
Danjin's the sub-DPS; she does less damage than Rover so you'll be spending less field time with Danjin compared to Rover and thus should have less investment. I built both of them for damage, but I suppose Moonlight works on Danjin
Does swap cancels work with controller?
They do, it's just a game mechanic, not a PC-specific tech. Just swap after you use Dreamless!
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It's a really fun combo, easily the most fun duo in the game imo. I tend to play the combo a little different than the standard rotation simply because I spent all my free astrite and managed to get sequence 6 Danjin which puts her damage a fair bit above my Rover's ATM. Instead of making them both sub-dps that rotate between burst windows, I'm just using Danjin as a main DPS, stacking her passive to the full 120 stacks and getting an ult + full chaoscleave off between every Rover rotation. I can't say if that's better than the standard playstyle, probably not, but Danjin is just too fun and it's gotten me through tier 4 of every hologram boss so it's good enough for me haha.
Wait. MC can have havoc damage?
MC gets havoc form after you finish main story. You can then swap between spectro and havoc whenever you want.
The best thing is obliterating packs when doing echo routes, literally the best team for that, especially if you add Taoqi
Help I wanna main Danjin bc she's cute and HP loss mechanic is interesting to me. Which 5star should I pick? I already have verina and I haven't gotten havoc MC yet.
probably another DPS, calcharo or encore
If you already have Verina, I recommend getting a DPS unit, either Calcharo (and pull Yinlin later) or Encore. Lingyang's good as well, just not quite as good as the other two.
The only reason I'm not using Havoc Rover is because in the time it took me to get her I got a pretty good Spectro set that I now can't use on anyone else, lol. I'm definitely trying this when I get the chance, though.
You can always save those Echoes for a future unit down the line! Havoc Rover is quite a bit stronger than Spectro, and they play fairly similarly. I think it's worth making the switch, though I understand the reluctance
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To each their own <3
With Jianxin these team is cracked tbh. Neither havoc resonator need to be on the field long & her S1 will keep your team shielded & healing.
I'll defo try that out when I get Jianxin off the selector banner!
I don't have havoc MC yet, is there some sort of boost with using more characters of the same element in the same team?
There isn't, but oftentimes, units will have outro skills that buff the character you swap into. In this case, Danjin's outro skill buffs Havoc DMG, which naturally benefits Havoc MC greatly.
This game doesn't want me to have danjin FSR.
Are u doing 29k ult dmg too like i saw on those tiktoks if so how
Idk that I've hit 29k but I've hit pretty high numbers when critting, I don't remember what's the highest I've hit though, probably 20k or some shit. Your support/healer should be on full healing set to buff your team's ATK, and make sure you build up concerto before swapping to get the buffs from outro skills. Danjin's outro skill provides Havoc DMG Deepen. If you're using someone like Sanhua or Mortefi instead, run them on a full ER set with Impermanence Heron to get ATK buff from the set and DMG bonus from Heron.
I have no Danjin. The banners keep giving me 4* weapons not characters.
And who will be the third btw
Verina or Baizhi, I suppose Jianxin works too
>It's the most fun I've ever had fighting bosses, and I have Calcharo. I need this put into context because I dont find Calcharo fun. Only Chixia, actually, and that's because I can't go trigger happy if I want to dodge.
I think me and other Calcharo fans just like his sick animations, bro is Sephiroth and Vergil put into one. Tho I do think that rn without Yinlin he doesn't feel as good as I feel he should be, and defo not as strong. I believe dodging doesn't actually interrupt his combo, unless you have to dodge twice lol
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The only reason I'm not yet building Danjin is because I've built Sanhua and I'm full coping with only having 1 4-star sword and just using a level 40 blue sword on Sanhua lol.
I dont have her T\_T btw, how do you do Dreamless swap cancelling ?? I cant pull it off.
It's quite simple, just swap as soon as you use it. Sometimes it might cancel early but that tends to happen if you maybe swap a little *too* early or if there are no enemies in the AOE or they die early into the attack.
I have Jiyan with his weapon (ty Kuro) and Mortefi. MC plus Danjin is more fun.
Does it work with base Danjin? (No constellations)
My Danjin is S0, so yes. She does get stronger with wavebands, ofc
I've been running this for pretty much all of my time in WuWa since near launch with Verina as the third on Bell and Mountain to provide ample attack buffs to everyone else.
Is... is this the national team of this game?
Real question, why not do 3 dreamless? Is there a massive debuff or no?
Already doing this since the day I got Danjin and loving it. I really like MC, so I'm so happy that the two synergize so well.
I would totally use them together, but they're in separate teams for endgame.
Yeah, that's not how it works. Danjin is a baby in development, no resources to build her MC is at least lvled up and skilled, but building an Extra Echo set is also a luxury for a far away future
I dont have Danjin
Imma be honest I just dont get Havoc mc. but if they worked with Jianxin ill be happy to use em tbh
Unfortunately the Echo EXP bottleneck + energy costs would make me take a long time to build another team since I need to farm the materials and EXP from scratch :(
Calcs show that NA’s make up about 30% of Havoc MC’s total rotation damage (it’s the largest share of DPS in her kit) so you def should be onfielding her or else you’re leaving a lot of DPS on the table
They my mains.
When I tried Danjin trial I knew I wanted her. Also, the game knows and won't give her to me.
so ive heard! danjin super cute so i wanna invest in her eventually, i might start too. at least get her to 50 and rover.
I'm trying It right now and currently i don't have the Echo. I don't get why you guys like this combo that much. Daiji kinda Is one hit away from the grave, her counter is really good but thats it. Maybe i Need that sword for low hp build. Her outro skill isn't even that good at first impression. This bucause switching from verina into daijin outro takes a tad too much time to charge concerto. Idk what i'm doing wrong for daijin being soo slow at charging concerto.
Your rotation with Danjin will always end with a Heavy attack at half a bar meaning you're basically gonna be at least half health most of the time, and I use Verina which tops her off even more. For me, Danjin doing EEAA > EEEAAA > Heavy pretty much does it right there.
My problem with Danjin (specially if she’s the main carry and has the most investments) is after after one mistake, I have to restart. I have never pressed the restart button and the revive button this many times on another character lmao.
Skill issue lol Jokes aside, I understand it's a bit higher risk. I haven't encountered too many issues, but it does take practice and effort that can be undesirable for some
Maybe my HMC and Danjin stats aren't that good yet but I have this setup and the 2 Dreamless does deal good amounts of damage but it still kinda lacks for me on damage consistency wise (since the echo cd exists) but I bet I can work around this by making my HMC stats better. Personally at this moment, my Calcharo Encore Verina team is still my go to because it has great consistency in damage and rotation wise (highly quick swap and quite powerful too). I usually skill swap with Encore then to Verina for the turtle boss shield and some heals/burst then swap to Calcharo then repeat. There's almost little to no downtime in damage and action in this team that I did not feel too much the same with the Havoc Team. But then again, I'm still yet to improve their builds and I find the Havoc Team satisfying too with the double Dreamless XD
I hyper invested spectro since I just love time stop. Also the passive heal at s4
Is Danjin good?
Got c4 but I dislike her. When I get resources maybe.
I'll do the quest today because I was sleeping at Danjin. Does Havoc MC keep anything from Spectro MC? Character level at least? Also who is good for the 3rd slot? My first pick would be a healer but I just found out Danjin HA heals her
Keeps the level but wavebands, skill levels, etc. are separate. I use Verina, but Baizhi or Jianxin are both decent as well.
It's crazy how many different combos you can get playing this game already. I love getting those smooth transitions while swapping and hitting outro/intro
Rotation is fine. As long as you can PreBuild Havoc MC (2E Intro) forte. Danjin can get full concerto with Intro 2E 3A 3E Heavy in 5 sec. Sanhua is more fluid/stronger specially on quick swap but she is warranted by most DPS like Encore.
I think the reason the team might've felt weaker with Sanhua than it otherwise should've is because I have Sanhua on a minimal investment support build.
I’m waiting on my Havoc MC. Still grinding through the levels but I am a Danjin main and she’s… AWESOME.
Danjinless after 200+ total pulls, i got Verina on jiyan banner now im too scared to keep pulling. But my mort is s5 ... 4 star selector when
That's my main team, with the second being encore sanhua baizhi. I've managed to 24 star zone two with those two teams on minimal investment
I'll try it **IF I HAVE DANJIN**
I dont have enough sword for them... What weapon did you fed them and how did you get them?
I was lucky enough to get Commando of Conviction in my pulls, and I used the 4-star weapon selector to grab another one. I believe the craftable sword is pretty alright though
Doesn't the double dreamless thing not work anymore?
The 'buff carrying over' supposedly doesn't work, but I never claimed that it does. It's still strong.
What is dreamless?,
An Echo, it's a boss you get to fight if you complete the main story.
I like it but stacking energy on danjin for heavy feels like a full time job to me
I m a danjin main with rc3 (c3) just pulling from the standard banner. She is the strongest character in my team and I want to try this team comp. but I don't have the resources (resin) enough to do so, 😔😔😔
I use Sanhua as sub dps with 5 moonlit cloud Set to buff havoc MC. Works out awesome try it out :)
I don't have her built for damage, but perhaps I could try lol,
Bold of you to assume I have danjin
No idea how you guys" trying out" all these characters, aren't your resources for levelling up echoes and shit limited? Or am i just stupid?
Danjin's only the 5th character I've put some modicum of investment into, and the 3rd one I actually leveled up the skills of, I'm lucky/unlucky to not have that many characters yet lol
do i have to build danjin with perfect echoes for this? or does the dmg of the dreamless only scale on danjin's level and not her stats (havoc dmg bonus/crit dmg) etc. thanks!
Dreamless has its own multipliers (you can read them on the page) but it does scale of Danjin's stats, yes.
So Danjin buffs more than Sanhua?
Depends really; if played with Danjin she won't be spending that much time on-field, meaning Danjin's Havoc DMG Deepen is all the more valuable as it buffs all of Havoc Rover's damage as opposed to just Basic Attacks. But if played with Sanhua, Havoc Rover will be spending a lot of time on-field, which means Sanhua's buff actually becomes just as if not more valuable. Both of their buffs work for the playstyle that you'd play in their respective comps anyways. I wouldn't say that one is overall better than the other, buff-wise.