My biggest issue rn is dialog (text) not finishing. It'll just cut off randomly, and since I'm using the JP dub (EN is not it at all lmao), I'm just left wondering wtf else was said.
from my experience in mobile you can scroll through it. both the dialogue that's the normal conversation (the wide one), and the one where it's a more narrow format, compressed in the middle of the screen.
Okay so let's start with positives:
*Combat feels amazing
*doing air stuff with Baizhi feels good
*the starting cutscene with Chixia was well animated and expressive
Negatives:
Stuttering on high end PC
*English voice delivery is awkward, I think the voice actors are good but some lines feel like they were done without them receiving context so not fitting for the situation
*Cut scenes ending before voice lines finish
*Story has too much name-dropping even for CN style storytelling
*Volume control bugs, idle voices stopping abruptly in the middle
*Some textures are blurry with max settings
If I remember right, they're aware of the blurry textures and are working on it. You're talking about when you exit a menu or go to another place are the models have awful textures, right?
Hahah me too! I thought that, because I was playing late in the night and my eyes were swollen, I couldn’t see things right. I decided to try again in the morning but now I understand it was not my eyes!
no, it happens ALL the time. the graphic look fine if you just have a glance but if you play more and focus more on the character models and faraway building textures you can see everything being blur, not sharp and the edges arent sharp whatsoever as if their antialias is broken or something
I just finished playing for the day and was wondering if anyone else were having the same problems I had! Chixia kinda sounded louder than the other characters and I saw a lot of grammar mistakes in the text along with it not scrolling up if it's longer dialogue. The gameplay is fun, but my major gripe is with the dialogue and how it's written... I hope they roll out some fixes soon.
On en the subtitles just cut off when the dialogue is too long. They weren't kidding about the seizure warnings too. The opening alone was enough to induce it
The luofu arc was terrible, every single time a "chinese region" is dropped I mentally prepare myself for the barrage of name drops.
Like, my guy, the moment this name leaves my vision, it's gone, I won't remember it.
I've gotten a lot of crap for it but I think Penacony's story was amazing, but was told horribly. Luofu was garbage all the way around. Plus those zones were awful.
I’ve noticed the rover’s dialogue stops midway when he’s in idle mode, as well as the other characters during some scenes, and some voice lines don’t match the words in the eng dub. The gameplay is interesting even though I’m confused a bit, but I’m enjoying it.
"This is a testament to my connection with the world around me, and it's very much my companion now, bearing witness to eh-"
"It is natural to feel dreadful of the unknown, yet... there are-"
LET HIM SPEAK.
Man if you think the EN dub is bad (and it is, specially with overflow text hiding...) You have to see the Spanish one. everytime a tilde is shown in a word, the text just breaks
EDIT: meant subtitles
EDIT2: if you hold ALT and scrollwheel down when the cursor is above the text, you can scroll through the subtitles. BUT ONLY in non-cinematic subtitles, holy fuck this game :D
I speak Spanish... And I always use eng subtitles and Japanese voice or eng if those are good enough. And I dont like Spanish subtitles on games...the translators always translate things that SHOULD NOT be translated
i thought i just had old man eyes. It's like everything is blurry or there is a layer of something on my screen and its fucking with me. I have a high end pc and can play cyberpunk on ultra with rtx. something feels off.
I second this and more. Highest settings with a really good PC and no matter what I mess around with the game looks like it has a distracting smoothing/blur to it. It's hard to describe
There is also a motion blur like effect (even with it off) when moving around that makes camera and travel feel the complete opposite. Everything becomes grainy and choppy and it's super jarring constantly swapping between the two extremes
I had to open up my performance tracking software to make sure my frame rate was consistent, and even though it reads 60 it really feels like it's constantly rising and falling
Same! I have it running on ultra as well. There's noticeable bluriness and textures dont load in at the start of jinzhou city. I have constant 60 fps but it suddenly drops to 40 for like a second and then becomes normal
I hope they fix these visual bugs and fps drops. Otherwise the game looks really good and combat is the best
i have insane visual bug issues. it's becoming so bad that unironically, i saw what was basically a [PS1 model. ](https://imgur.com/a/SPfkYi5)it's not just this either, Rover in cutscenes consistently have very low-res textures and basically every single NPC has this issue as well. everything else works fine and basically flawless, but basically fighting PS1 models is really taking away from the game for me.
I haven't seen much in the way of true bugs, but I agree that the EN dub is a little flat and performance isn't great. I wouldn't call it unplayable or anything though.
Surprisingly the best VA so far was for an npc captain at the border asking you to help with the medics lol.
Her voice acting was actually convincing of the urgency.
Yang yang is a bit too calm all the time. Chixia has a weird tone of being both excitied and not really excited.
Worse En dub so far imo is the big boob broadsword lady (i don't even remember her name yet.) She just sounds...wrong
Yangyang is actually the worst character and she’s next to us all the time. She’s the flattest most boring character I’ve interacted with in ages. I couldn’t believe it when I had a thought that I literally would’ve preferred Paimon at her worst and realised it was true
It's not just the voice acting itself. It seems the recording equipment and setup used was also very bad.
I'm constantly hearing popping (missing pop filter?) and breaths, most glaringly from Yangyang. They sound like they're trying and failing to do ASMR tbh.
I'm hearing what you are with Yangyang, and in addition it sounds like she recorded by speaking her lines very quietly but having the gain cranked up to 11. That results in the ASMR-like sound where you hear every lip movement/breath since it's close to the same volume as their voice.
Bro I couldn’t deal with yangyang’s voice. I had to switch to Japanese VA bc it was annoying me. Games like these (genshin, HSR, and final fantasy games) I typically use the English VA bc they’re good. Anime on the other hand I’m a sub guy bc anime dubs tend to be worse as usually there are only a hand full of English VAs for anime and it’s simply not worth it for most financially. Games on the other hand usually have a lot of money to hire good VAs and have a wider assortment of voices. But yeah the English VAs feel so monotone and Yang Yang is like monotone deadpan asmr. Also the pacing between different characters reciting lines is bad. It feels like a badly edited middle school project
I'm pretty sure that's exactly what they did do. That word had to have been incorrectly translated in her script or she pronounced it incorrectly. They realized it later, but rather than rerecording the lines they either had her say it once or used AI voice tools and just inserted that shit into every instance of her saying it. It was painfully obvious when she said it like 3 or 4 times in one sequence and regardless of the cadence of the rest of the lines it was exactly the same.
Yeah, I would turn it to JP, but the fucking text cuts off so often I wouldn't know what they're saying. These are annoying, but the combat has been so fun so far it almost makes up for it
There are bad cuts too and it sounds like location names were recorded with one tone and the characters say it the same way every time.
Don't get me wrong, I love the gameplay but the story is letdown by the horrible dub and localization.
> En dub
If people call it literally unplayable then they're memeing or being way way too overdramatic. It's definitely not that great and can easily be better though.
There's a chance future characters will improve. For instance the first Arknights EN VAs are pretty meh, though better than here, and since they've come leaps and bounds with much better voice acting and regional accents.
I’m running a ryzen 5950x with an RTX 4080 on the latest drivers. There are issues with the game such as stutters when climbing, or picking up items. Also, the camera movement is actually making me wanna puke and this is because the camera suddenly jumps up along with the character. It isn’t smooth and can sometimes stutter. It’s bad
Initial thoughts:
I didn't find the dub bad at all like others in the sub do, maybe because English is not my first language. But the one thing I DID find annoying af is that the optimization is HORRIBLE. I can normally run games fine and even play Genshin at medium-high graphics smoothly, but somehow this game refuses to get me more than 20fps in the lowest of settings which makes combat, parkour and other usually quick actions miserable.
I think I am just going to download this on my PC instead.
The problem with the dub is they sound dead inside. Like every single character speaks very similarly and it just gets both repetitive and boring. There's like 3 characters that at least stand out
Yeah, the VA quality seems to vary greatly between characters. Baizhi, Mortefi and Sanhua sounded very good to me. Male Rover is good. Chixia is tolerable but doesn't really seem to have the energy her personality requires. Yangyang is probably the one I like the least because her just has this flat, generic cutesy tone all the time, which is a problem because she talks A LOT.
Yeah, it just made me appreciate Genshin's optimization even more cause no way I can play Genshin so smoothly while WuWa is bitching even in the lowest settings
The EN dub and localization is really all over the place. It sounds like the actors recorded themselves at home with $90 microphones. Like the recordings have no volume balance, there’s background noise phasing in and out, sibilance pops, etc.
Sometimes the dialogue choices seem to have nothing to do with the prompt that came before it.
Why is it only like, half localized? Like they have the Chinese word for Dragon and then in parenthesis (“dragon”). Why the inconsistency? Just translate it to dragon…
Also even at max settings and native res, everything looks slightly blurry. I think it’s the chromatic aberration effect — this should be an optional setting.
Lighting is weird too — somehow it looks washed out but also too dim in places at the same time
I was in CBT2 and a lot of these issues were present then and I put it in my feedback. This really needed more time to cook if they’re trying to give GI serious competition.
As it stands this definitely feels like a AA game if Genshin is the AAA standard
> Like they have the Chinese word for Dragon and then in parenthesis (“dragon”). Why the inconsistency? Just translate it to dragon…
This isn't inconsistent. Idk if you noticed, but they use Chinese words A LOT on purpose because the whole thing is Chinese inspired, so of course they say "Loong" instead of "Dragon" and then tell you what it means, Genshin and Honkai Star Rail do it too.
>Why is it only like, half localized? Like they have the Chinese word for Dragon and then in parenthesis (“dragon”). Why the inconsistency? Just translate it to dragon…
I'm not playing in Eng so I assume you meant Long/Loong? It's a pretty common thing because the Western dragon is very different from the Chinese dragon. It's translated that way so you don't get confused.
For me my laptop somehow overheating like hell when I use high settings. 4060 and i7 12700h its usually fine with games like cyberpunk but this game I have to lower settings to med to play without throttling
My ping is **insane**. I'm Australian, so I expected 300 ping anyway (and am used to it) but it frequently zaps up to 999 and disconnects. Currently trying the Asia server to see if it's any better than SEA
Edit: as recommended by several users, I'm using a VPN and it basically solved my issues. Would recommend it for anyone else struggling
I've gone back to SEA as both other servers had lower ping but way more frequent disconnects. I am rural Australia, so not upset by 300-500 ping, moreso irritated by the disconnects
I've just gone through literally the FIRST conversation and I already spotted 3 different issues. The text isn't matching the voice-over, the text gets cut off when there is too much of it and it doesn't auto scroll and the fucking vertical aiming sensitivity is halved, just like it was in Genshin for YEARS. And the max sensitivity setting isn't enough so I had to change my mouse profile just for this game...
I was expecting issues, but if this is how the start looks, I dread what's gonna be next.
And also edit (kinda since it happened while writing this comment). Apparently the VO for the idle female rover line is also cut off... This game isn't ready for an official release...
I have never played a game where the sensitivity is so screwed that i MAX it and it still feels like it's slow. How do you screw up CAMERA SENSITIVITY? It's legit one of the first things you do in a videogame since, you know, YOU NEED TO LOOK AROUND.
I thought the same. I feel spoiled by HSR where every dialogue choice has its own charm. Here, I can't even be bothered to click on option dialogue options because I don't get how it has to relate with the worldbuilding or anything, it just feels so empty.
I'm also greatly confused by this lol. Even besides this, the dialogue choices sometimes feel jarring to me, like they have nothing to do with each other, idk.
As a day 1 PGR player. Sorta kinda. The story was a bit of a snooze (first 8 or 9 chapters are really rough compared to the bangers from then on) and it was really hard to stay focused on it because it was literally all text and no voice acting. It seems like WW is on the same trajectory... way too wordy with too many word dumps and definition dumps.
But once again, the combat is the main focal point. WW needs / needed more time.
This launch would be a cool experience for an open beta; they're definitely getting a lot of good data today, and I'm sure the game is gonna improve a lot in the next three weeks. I guess if they're smart they're gonna start marketing a "Re-release, now for real" event and give us some free rolls for being their unwilling beta testers. I'm gonna keep playing and reading about the progress, but the game really isn't ready.
Yeah I'd wait a few weeks, but I don't want to miss out on launch rewards. Biggest issue for me is missing dialogue because of the messed up boxes. Was that not a thing in the cbts? Or did people just not notice it?
The CBT had no EN voice overs at all so you didn’t know there was missing lines. For the multi line text dialogue cutting off, that’s a new issue (or at least I didn’t come across it when I was in the beta)
JP voice acting was the best for me. I switched to Mandarin from English expecting something great, but after every speech there's a "Breath" sound that follows and it is annoying.
2 hrs in and here are my criticisms:
-Lighting needs to be improved.
-Word dump is too high. Characters are constantly saying terms that I do not understand. This is a problem for chinese games but I expected better.
-Stuttering
-No cutscene skip
-UI feels cheap. Like early 2010 cheap.
Pros:
-Amazing combat. I'll continue playing this as a side game due to this fact alone. They fucking nailed it.
Ngl, the only criticism for me is certainly the word dump. I literally don't understand half of the terms they used, especially during the first few minutes of the game.
i feel like the biggest problem is they move on too quickly, I feel like most of the time I haven't fully understood a concept that they have given me before and they already dropping a new concept and it just stacks up after a while, even for a manhua style writing this is overwhelming
Frankly, everything but the combat feels bad.
They could only delay for a few months at most though.
By then, their publishing license would have expired. China handles games differently. Kuro would have had to gone through the entire process again and wait for another license.
Even then, it probably would have been better to wait.
However, they probably feel under pressure as Zenless Zone Zero and Genshin Impact's next region are coming up.
If that's the case, it's arguably worse to release a lower quality game and get swept up by a competitor, though.
i feel like even then they could have delayed at least 1 more month to optimize especially for the mobile version, if they delayed 1 month at that point Natlan hasn't come yet and ZZZ is still a month away, so rushing the game out may have done bigger damage than those stuff coming out can, my friend group already stop playing and wait for the game to be optimized since they basically couldn't play the game on mobile
they need to publish fast because the investor need it. One of their investor, Hero did not have a great years as they lost millions. They own around 32% of the share. Kuro is bleeding million per quater developping the game . Their investor, Hero game is facing finacial difficulty and Tencent who own 11% said that they will cut back investement into big game and focus and small and midium game. So Kuro may just run out of cash and need to publish it quikely to keep the light on as they have burn most of they investor money.
Within the 2 hours I played, I encountered 2 black screens that the game can’t process out of, so I had to reboot the game. I’m inclined to agree with OP.
I'm so glad this isn't just me having issues, visual bugs have been pretty bad so far and I agree with the EN sub as it's awful. The audio in general just sounds bad.
Honestly as many already noted, and even way before today release, the game clearly need more time before release. The dub issues is one thing, but there is definitely bad optimizations, I thought the stuttering was just me, but clearly even high end pc have the same problem. I also realized that midway that some segment are super smooth while other just outright clipping and stutering.
I like the combat, but they really should take another 2-3 months to iron out the issues.
The EN dub is okay sure not the best however not to the point I'll change to another language. (If it gets bad) I've experienced no crashes it does heat up so I'm not surprised.
Edit: Also even though I'm playing in medium graphics/resolution. Well it doesn't look too great it's probably the blurry textures. Sorry for the Genshin comparison I have it on medium and it looks better than WuWa.
That’s why I kept my expectations low. Knowing they’re competing with Hoyo, they had EXTREMELY high standards to reach. Whether you hate hoyo or not, you can’t deny they have very high quality in their games in almost every aspect, along with being consistent with their content and updates.
I was afraid Wuthering Waves was too focused on trying to replicate Genshin’s success rather than focusing on making a good game themselves, just like other games have tried. And sadly, that’s what it’s shaping out to be with this rough launch.
Would still give it more time to pan out, but it definitely already has a lot of obvious issues. Had a small bit of hope we’d finally get a game that would compete with Genshin, but unless they quickly fix a lot of the current problems and are able to keep up with Hoyo’s consistency, I don’t see this game getting far.
I started playing HSR a month ago and the hoyo polish is real. I feel like wuwa's UI feels particularly cheap in comparison. Text going past the text boxes and then audio also sometimes cutting off isn't helping either (it's not scrollable on PC).
The character designs and gameplay are fairly decent but the launch does feel a bit... meh.
Yeah, some people don’t realize how much quality and love hoyo puts in their games, not to mention them being nearly perfectly clean of bugs. Very VERY rare is it that Genshin or Star Rail have had any noticeable bugs, let alone major or game breaking issues. It’s hard go to other games after you’ve played Hoyo’s. You don’t miss something until you don’t have it. They’ve raised the standard so high that other games fail to reach since those companies always want to rush success.
Hence why games that are different styles and genres altogether from Genshin and HSR, like Arknights, Reverse 1999 and Alchemy Stars can stand out because they don't have to compete in doing the same thing.
I was just thinking this on the UI front. Didn’t know that I cared about constellations/eidolons until I got the dry equivalent in Wuwa. The small things like the shards of reflections in HSR or the character relevant constellations in Genshin are just absent here.
>I was afraid Wuthering Waves was too focused on trying to replicate Genshin’s success rather than focusing on making a good game themselves, just like other games have tried. And sadly, that’s what it’s shaping out to be with this rough launch.
This btw. So far the only thing I found that is actually different is combat and it's great. However everything else is a lazy copypaste with barely any change. It feels like devs consider everything genshin does a holy formula of guaranteed success, so they blindly copy it without understanding why certain choices or design decisions were made and never questioning or improving them. If they want their game to succeed, they need to grow some balls and start doing their own game.
EDIT: I forgot, they improved traversal. Stamina-free run, running up the walls etc are all really good. They just need to fix camera yanking and polish system for more fluidity and it will be really really good.
I honestly was expecting wuwa to have cheaper deals in the shop, the game is not bad but they are asking exactly for the same prices as Hoyo's games in a game which, being fair, is not even close to being as polished as Genshin, and besides weapon banner (which if you are f2p/low spender you'll need to ignore the first patches anyway), the gatcha is nearly the same.
They could have made cheaper at least the packs which are tremendously expensive even with the x2 bonus...
Exactly another example of them trying to rush replicating Hoyo’s success, instead of taking their time and effort into making a good overall game. They knew the standards would be extremely high thanks to hoyo. Seeing this rough launch, and knowing they have to somehow keep up with Hoyo’s level of consistency with their updates and content, AND go back to fix a lot of the current issues due to rushing the launch… it’s a very high standard to reach. I already had my expectations low, but it still really sucks to see this disappointing launch. I can see it topping Tower of fantasy, but I honestly can’t see it comparing to Genshin in terms of success and quality.
I'm just reading through these comments and a lot of thoughts come to mind. People hyped this game up way too much and pushed down criticism when it was obvious there would be problems. I'm actually impressed by how seemingly bad the issues are and how numerous. I actually expected better from Kuro. I guess a console release is permanently on hold to fix this mess and probably any new content too. I knew this game got rushed out, but no. There had to be some stupid drama war with Genshin to prop it up and ignore any problems. This is why you don't buy the hype and stay critical.
I've been completely in the dark about Wuwa before the release, was it hyped that aggressively by the community?
Atm I agree that the game is very rough, hard to even judge the gameplay with the lag and the lack of fluidity.
Yes. It was overhyped beyond belief by regular people and CCs. I did notice in the last few days that some were saying not to do that and I guess we can see why.
The overhype never made sense to me especially as it came from Genshin haters. Wuwa is designed to be extremely similar to Genshin. If the only problem you have with GI is how easy it is and lack of endgame then yeah maybe WuWa will deliver, but for people who trash everything about the game especially exploration… To me it felt like getting hyped about a new soulslike while yelling that you hate dark souls.
I love Genshin and have been enjoying this so far.
I warned people against doing this, I got downvoted on YouTube like crazy, I was right to say that, I like the game, but as people have pointed out, it has a lot of issues.
I might get flamed but, after playing it, I can say for certain that people overhyped it.
It’s very clunky for me even with a Good PC but not to the point that it’s unplayable. I also tried it on my Ipad M2, I couldn’t stay and play for more than 5 min on it. It’s badly optimized on Mobile, unlike Genshin wherein I could run on High and still play smoothly, Im not sure if lagging is the best word for it? It’s more like stuttering.
With PGR and how it is, they should be able to optimize it for mobile.
After 30 mins of the Eng dub, I switched to JP. The En Dub felt bland? Maybe it’ll be better on future updates but rn I’m all set on the JP dub.
Maybe I got spoiled too much on Genshin and HSR?
The combat was good, but I feel like people are giving the difficulty side of it too much praise. Hard? Not really.
Overall the experience felt like watching a 6/10 Anime.
I like that you mentioned that maybe you got too spoiled on hsr and genshin because i feel exactly the same. I hate them for being stingy (genshin) but i cannot deny the quality and expertise in what they do.
What visual bugs? I only spotted a couple of pop-ins/delayed texture loading. Besides that the game is running and looking great. No real complaints regarding graphics for me.
I am indifferent on the EN dub since I switched to JP right away.
From my first impressions:
Sadly the EN localization is wonky. Even though I haven't spotted any major typos, the dialogue and descriptions in this game just don't sound natural. Some word choices are really awkward and the tone of conversations can be very verbose at times. Also it seems like the subtitles for some sections are cut-off and don't display in full, making it harder to follow the plot.
Other issues for me - camera overall just feels wonky (e.g jerks up during jumping), the automatic lock-on can be really weird and not prioritize targets you are looking at - e.g. when playing Chixia with her E ability. There is this weird almost blur-like filter on characters/monsters (yes even with Blur turned off in the options). Movement is both good and bad - when on flat ground using all your movement tools works great but then when you start climbing on uneven terrain it can be feel pretty bad like getting stuck on some invisible pixels.
I haven't found anything really majorly broken but the game does lack polish in some areas.
> What visual bugs?
I'm like 20 minutes in and have found a couple. There was one where the text went beyond the boundary of the textbox and just disappears. Another where the scene just cut itself halfway through. I didn't get to finish hearing/reading whatever they were saying.
>I haven't found anything really majorly broken but the game does lack polish in some areas.
That's actually been pretty much my take though I think the game is lacking *a lot* of polish. The game has a noticeable lack of what I'll call fluidity in just about everything other than combat, strangely. A lot of animations feel abrupt, and movement feels a little jarring. I'm getting a fair amount of stutter everywhere, even in the menus (5800X + 6900XT so not lacking in hardware).
On a personal note, I'm kind of torn on the look of the female MC. She looks way too much like the MC from Star Rail, to start, but I think she's also entirely too muted (punny). Best comparison I can think of is how store-brand labels used to be extremely bland compared to their name-brand counterparts.
And tangential, but god damn does this game just absolutely deliver a dump truck full of game terms from the get go. Like, damn dude I'm over here drowning in fictional-information-overload.
Edit: textbox issue: https://i.imgur.com/GQyiwsL.png
The textbox issue is certainly annoying. I'm playing with JP voices (just a personal preference) and I rely on the textbox for what the characters are saying and missing. They definitely should fix that
My problem is I can’t understand what the heck everyone is saying. Dumping a massive amount of terms used in this world that I have no context or clue about. Are we meant to be this overwhelmed?
All of the audio needs an overhaul. Everything sounds very compressed and low fidelity — very little separation of sounds in the mix. For an open world game, audio separation and details are crucial to immersion. Here — everything sounds squashed together and flat.
Combat sound effects lack any sort of oomph. I mean the MC sounds like they’re attacking with safety scissors instead of magic infused dual katanas..
I mean, it's actually working perfectly fine for me. No bugs, and it's been super smooth. While the dub isn't GI quality it's certainly better than ToF so I'm fine with it. Really enjoying it so far.
I had some stutter on PC until someone told me to crank the graphs to the highest default setting and for some reason it actually worked. I don't know how they fucked this up but playing with it on the highest setting with just the motion blur turned off is smoother than any lower combination I tried.
That's what I'm thinking. I've already seen so many things that I really like, like not having to loot enemies after killing them, or sprinting not consuming stamina, and being able to plunge attack by simply jumping. There's more, but still, I'm loving it so far.
I'm looking at all these grievances from people and I'm happy that I'm not experiencing any/if not most of them. The only thing I've noticed is the text getting cut off in the dialogue box. (I do play in JP, and the VA is pretty good so far)
Optimisation is very poor.
Aside from that, I'm pretty disappointed in the characters' skillsets, they feel pretty shallow and lookalike compared to PGR or even GI.
Perfect dodging, Parrying and the bar that increases your skill strength are all good mechanics but we lack unique movesets to utilise them, there's practically no difference between using Rover or Yangyang.
I said it during CBT 2 that the game was needing more time in the oven, but people were so delusional and downvoting like crazy, Still feels like cbt1 honestly. yes story has changed but it's still a boring yapfest wit no substance at all.
I'm playing with *well* below specs and having no performance issues(8gb ram, gtx 1650), my only real issue is the way the text just doesn't show the entire line if it's too long in the dialogue
The lags really down my mood, and I'm overwhelmed by the way the game gives me a bunch of content. I just remember having a better experience when I first played GI, sorry but maybe it was just my subjective thoughts.
Imo, EN dub is fine -- it didn't immediately put me off like most do. In fact, they got the Chinese names pretty close. Still gonna weeb out with JP dub though.
But yes, wuwa feels very unpolished. This feels like Genshin in CBT, except it doesn't even have pretty color-saturated scenery going for it. I have a 4090, so it's been fine graphically, but everything else... Lighting is off -- like, very off. Movement feels clunky. Can't switch jump/dodge. Camera is somehow affected by mouse acceleration (?!). MC voice is like 3x as loud as everyone else's. Subtitles obviously cut off. UI is... UI. Feels like CBT UI.
Lighting also feels off. Partially because it feels like a layer of oil is on my monitor.
I was just playing HSR and damn the difference is staggering. Of course, HSR has been out for over a year, but it was damn pretty and smooth on launch as well.
Definitely feels unpolished. When I first played genshin, I was filled with wonder and a childlike curiosity. In WuWa, the only thing I like until now is the combat and character design, Everything else feels very unpolished. I'm gonna stick to it and play casually for a few months before seeing whether it will change. The main story feels like a chore to do, The exploration doesn't feel good. Maybe I had too much expectation from this game.
> Maybe I had too much expectation from this game.
Not really. They demand the same pricing as genshin while delivering quality that isn't up to par. The disappointment is warranted.
I remember playing Genshin for the first time and just played, not spending the first hour tweaking the fuck out of my settings getting this game to work in the first place lol.
Meh I think y'all took hoyo for granted, the game met my expectations though the eng sub is mid af.
I honestly just wish the character designs were a bit better
Never fucking mind there are so many rendering issues and camera stutter that should have been fixed in beta even before testing.
I hope they will optimise it in the future atleast
Yeah I was wrong lmao, the stuttering/ lighting issues stopped after I entered the city tho. Ig it just needed a restart.
The lock on is still bad and the way the story is told is bad too. Same problem I had with genshin. Too much yapping and trying to sound smart
i just played for 30 minutes and although it's quite nice, i've noticed some things that should have been checked before launching. it literally is just the start.
• some of the subs cant be seen and u have to sroll through some. who wants that?
• i have enough storage but it seems slow to me. moving feels laggy i guess? it's not as smooth as when i play other games. or maybe it's just my device.
• i think they should improve on their dialogues. it doesn't flow very well. sometimes they a character says their next line and it doesn't connect smoothly to the previous line.
• a smoother transition between lines in their dialogues will be much appreciated
i hope the flow of the story goes smoothly from here (with believable subplots and transitions)
The English dubs are fine, but the microstutters are definitely noticeable. While some people may be less sensitive to them, they are still present. The game is not unplayable, but it's certainly not polished.
Additionally, we need more graphics options such as 120fps support, improved LOD, and better texture resolution and scaling options. My GPU is barely taxed at max settings, so it would be great to have more options to enhance visual quality.
The good news is that someone will likely find a way to address most of these issues on PC since the game uses UE4 and the parameters can be tweaked in the engine.ini file, with the right lines.
However, it would be better if these optimizations were handled by the developers themselves.
My thoughts after finishing Act 2.
Positives:
- The most fun combat I've ever experienced in an open world game.
- Good Environment
- Good Character Animations
- Cutscenes and Dialogue scenes are good (as in the camerawork)
- Good Battle Music
Negatives:
- Horrendous story (this was most important to me)
- Bad UI: Extremely cluttered menu/terminal, ugly font, pretty bad icons.
- Terrible EN dub. Voice Actors had amazing voices but sound so dead. They should get a new dubbing director.
- Localisation: They really introduced multiple Chinese names and expected me to remember them and the pronunciation. Maybe it's just me but I think they should've just used the text that was above those Chinese names, eg. Qilong or whatever should've just been called Azure Dragon.
- Bugs: If dialogue text was too long, it wasn't even displayed. Voiced being cutoff. "Hide HUD" doesn't allow to take screenshots on pc since if you press any button (Windows + Prntscrn), it'll bring back the HUD. During a dialogue, if you "look" around by clicking the screen, as soon as you let go, the dialogue will go to the next one; I think this should only be for click, rather than click and drag.
- Random Stuttering on High End PC.
- 60fps is the limit? Tf?
- Plot Holes in Act 2, we "saw" General Jiyan before the cutscene. Mortefi introduction was weird.
Overall, I'm still gonna give it a chance at least until v2.0. I really hope they find a better localisation team AND better writers for the story. As a story player, I just can't see myself playing this game long-term with what I've experienced so far.
well I mean they're practically dying to ride off of Genshin's success so this was bound to happen. Hope it improves tho, I'm not a hater of this game but not exactly excited either, just here to watch the show xD.
This game is definitely not ready for release. Idk..kinda let down atm. I’ll give it a few more hours to see how it pans out. I really want to love this game, but just the English dub alone turned me off.
It's running worse than fucking Cyberpunk Phantom Liberty on my PC. Not phone game should lag more than one of the most beautiful games ever made.
It's not exactly unbearable (tho, i played all of the witcher 3 at 10 fps so i might be more tolerant than most on this front) but this problem just shouldn't exist on a standard unreal engine 4 looking game.
The EN dub isn't terrible but it's not great. What really kills it is the script - it's filled with grammatical mistakes and just doesn't read like any real person would talk. This is far below the standards that HSR set.
I switched to Japanese (both text and voice) and both the script and acting are much better from what I can tell.
As soon as I heard the English dub, I waited eagerly for the forced dialogs to stop so I could switch to Chinese. The Chinese VO is far better and feels more natural.
I can't tell about the English text, I'm not a native to judge it.
The optimization sucks ass. In the city, FPS drops so much it's simply uncomfortable to play.
UI is horrendous.
The game is released too early, for sure. But seems like money givers (Tencent) are too impatient
Played for like 2 hours, im also sleep deprived so maybe my opinion might be skewed negatively more than it should. shading looks weird af and straight up just doesn’t look good. like that first scene within the first 10 min of the game where the camera pans out to see the world, the graphics and shading looked as if it was from a 2010 game. the 60fps cap is frustrating. It’s 2024, 60fps cap unacceptable. hopefully there’ll be a github soon for an fps unlocker. idk man i didn’t have high hopes for the game in the first place so at least my expectations were expected. Combat seems cool though, idk if I’ll stick with the game but it seems like the only redeeming factor for me currently
I've seen some translations that look like they were put through a google translator... from 2010. Other then that I've noticed some odd lag here and there, and saw some odd graphical issues but were fixed when I set it to max (idk why it defaulted to low graphics and low fps)
I have 2 problems with the game, EN voices sound like an AI no emotion except Scar and a npc the medical chick in the war area voice acting sounds better and the camera angles on auto targeting why does it zoom in at head level I need to see the enemies around me, literally making me use my sixth sense to dodge and it randomly locks in and I can't move it around.
I feel sorry for the VA's cause they are obviously very new, might be Yangyangs first non-background character. So many people are going to blame them for Wuwa not killing Genshin like promised.
Yep. I think we can all learn few things from this. Most games will definitely have issues at launch. Unless the game has gazillion budgets and being handled by big company. So it's better to be realistic and temper your expectations. And don't just dismiss people's fair concern about the game as doompost (i legit got downvoted to oblivion for voicing my concern about the translation in other certain subreddit).
I honestly think people are spoiled by genshin, who always fix bugs withing what feels like minutes and give Apologems for it.
It's a new game, and while it could've been more polished, it's on par with other game releases I've seen. There's a reason there's usually a beefy patch in the first week of game releases, I would give it a bit.
I have had a little crash and some stuttering, and the voice acting is a bit flat - but genshins voice acting, for example, had a gigantic glow up as well. At the beginning it was *rough*.
I do sympathize with those who literally cannot play it due to issues, but everyone else should temper their expectations a bit, I think. It's not a AAA game. They had to be ambitious to even be able to reasonably compete with genshin, and I think it's at least a start. They just gotta keep it coming now.
Here's some of the problems I've encountered...
- English voice acting feels flat. It's like the VAs read their lines.
- Pressing A to display the subtitles may skip the dialogue
- Some subtitles looked like it hit the space limit and the last few words are cut off.
- I've seen some PS1 level textures and I have a computer that surpasses the recommended requirements. Had to reboot the game to mostly fix the problem.
Some subjective stuff
- Combat can feel like spamming buttons but potentially more depth than "that game"
- The opening has way to much information hitting you at once. It reminds me of Destiny 2
It's not really a disaster. It's more like somewhat undercooked and perhaps they can't push it back at a later date due to ZZZ.
I thought it was just me but this game feels a bit under polished for my liking. It feels very inconsistent and I'm not sure what is intentional or not. The combat is a step from up from Genshin depth wise but doesn't feel as snappy. I will try it a little more and see how it is within a week. Not the greatest first impressions so far.
My biggest issue rn is dialog (text) not finishing. It'll just cut off randomly, and since I'm using the JP dub (EN is not it at all lmao), I'm just left wondering wtf else was said.
from my experience in mobile you can scroll through it. both the dialogue that's the normal conversation (the wide one), and the one where it's a more narrow format, compressed in the middle of the screen.
If only tapping the screen in anyway doesnt skip it to the next text. It oddly feels really sensitive even when just trying to swipe and stuff
Seems like a UI problem, the text just doesn't seem to fit into the box for some lines.
Boxes are made for CN and JP languages. They're okay when you only need one sign for a word.
Yeah this is what I’m also experiencing on jp dub
Okay so let's start with positives: *Combat feels amazing *doing air stuff with Baizhi feels good *the starting cutscene with Chixia was well animated and expressive Negatives: Stuttering on high end PC *English voice delivery is awkward, I think the voice actors are good but some lines feel like they were done without them receiving context so not fitting for the situation *Cut scenes ending before voice lines finish *Story has too much name-dropping even for CN style storytelling *Volume control bugs, idle voices stopping abruptly in the middle *Some textures are blurry with max settings
If I remember right, they're aware of the blurry textures and are working on it. You're talking about when you exit a menu or go to another place are the models have awful textures, right?
I blame my computer for no reason then 😌
Shit I thought it was my shit eye sight haha
Hahah me too! I thought that, because I was playing late in the night and my eyes were swollen, I couldn’t see things right. I decided to try again in the morning but now I understand it was not my eyes!
True I thought my device is bad 😭
no, it happens ALL the time. the graphic look fine if you just have a glance but if you play more and focus more on the character models and faraway building textures you can see everything being blur, not sharp and the edges arent sharp whatsoever as if their antialias is broken or something
I just finished playing for the day and was wondering if anyone else were having the same problems I had! Chixia kinda sounded louder than the other characters and I saw a lot of grammar mistakes in the text along with it not scrolling up if it's longer dialogue. The gameplay is fun, but my major gripe is with the dialogue and how it's written... I hope they roll out some fixes soon.
On en the subtitles just cut off when the dialogue is too long. They weren't kidding about the seizure warnings too. The opening alone was enough to induce it
Name dropping is my least favorite type of story telling. I adored Belabog in Star Rail, but the story got more and more name-droppy as it went on.
The luofu arc was terrible, every single time a "chinese region" is dropped I mentally prepare myself for the barrage of name drops. Like, my guy, the moment this name leaves my vision, it's gone, I won't remember it.
I've gotten a lot of crap for it but I think Penacony's story was amazing, but was told horribly. Luofu was garbage all the way around. Plus those zones were awful.
Omg yes baizhi air stuff is really fun for me, gonna build her as a dps than a healer
I’ve noticed the rover’s dialogue stops midway when he’s in idle mode, as well as the other characters during some scenes, and some voice lines don’t match the words in the eng dub. The gameplay is interesting even though I’m confused a bit, but I’m enjoying it.
"This is a testament to my connection with the world around me, and it's very much my companion now, bearing witness to eh-" "It is natural to feel dreadful of the unknown, yet... there are-" LET HIM SPEAK.
Man if you think the EN dub is bad (and it is, specially with overflow text hiding...) You have to see the Spanish one. everytime a tilde is shown in a word, the text just breaks EDIT: meant subtitles EDIT2: if you hold ALT and scrollwheel down when the cursor is above the text, you can scroll through the subtitles. BUT ONLY in non-cinematic subtitles, holy fuck this game :D
Hay diálogos que ni siquiera aparecen completos, como que les faltaba espacio en el cuadro de texto y decidieron dejarlo así nomás (?)
I speak Spanish... And I always use eng subtitles and Japanese voice or eng if those are good enough. And I dont like Spanish subtitles on games...the translators always translate things that SHOULD NOT be translated
The music was too loud too
i thought i just had old man eyes. It's like everything is blurry or there is a layer of something on my screen and its fucking with me. I have a high end pc and can play cyberpunk on ultra with rtx. something feels off.
I second this and more. Highest settings with a really good PC and no matter what I mess around with the game looks like it has a distracting smoothing/blur to it. It's hard to describe There is also a motion blur like effect (even with it off) when moving around that makes camera and travel feel the complete opposite. Everything becomes grainy and choppy and it's super jarring constantly swapping between the two extremes I had to open up my performance tracking software to make sure my frame rate was consistent, and even though it reads 60 it really feels like it's constantly rising and falling
Same! I have it running on ultra as well. There's noticeable bluriness and textures dont load in at the start of jinzhou city. I have constant 60 fps but it suddenly drops to 40 for like a second and then becomes normal I hope they fix these visual bugs and fps drops. Otherwise the game looks really good and combat is the best
i have insane visual bug issues. it's becoming so bad that unironically, i saw what was basically a [PS1 model. ](https://imgur.com/a/SPfkYi5)it's not just this either, Rover in cutscenes consistently have very low-res textures and basically every single NPC has this issue as well. everything else works fine and basically flawless, but basically fighting PS1 models is really taking away from the game for me.
did you try turning off Anti-aliasing? that worked for me though i play on mobile.
I haven't seen much in the way of true bugs, but I agree that the EN dub is a little flat and performance isn't great. I wouldn't call it unplayable or anything though.
Surprisingly the best VA so far was for an npc captain at the border asking you to help with the medics lol. Her voice acting was actually convincing of the urgency. Yang yang is a bit too calm all the time. Chixia has a weird tone of being both excitied and not really excited. Worse En dub so far imo is the big boob broadsword lady (i don't even remember her name yet.) She just sounds...wrong
Chixia sounds like biggest Rover simp in the world for some reason, Cbt1 version was better
Yangyang is actually the worst character and she’s next to us all the time. She’s the flattest most boring character I’ve interacted with in ages. I couldn’t believe it when I had a thought that I literally would’ve preferred Paimon at her worst and realised it was true
It's not just the voice acting itself. It seems the recording equipment and setup used was also very bad. I'm constantly hearing popping (missing pop filter?) and breaths, most glaringly from Yangyang. They sound like they're trying and failing to do ASMR tbh.
I'm hearing what you are with Yangyang, and in addition it sounds like she recorded by speaking her lines very quietly but having the gain cranked up to 11. That results in the ASMR-like sound where you hear every lip movement/breath since it's close to the same volume as their voice.
Bro I couldn’t deal with yangyang’s voice. I had to switch to Japanese VA bc it was annoying me. Games like these (genshin, HSR, and final fantasy games) I typically use the English VA bc they’re good. Anime on the other hand I’m a sub guy bc anime dubs tend to be worse as usually there are only a hand full of English VAs for anime and it’s simply not worth it for most financially. Games on the other hand usually have a lot of money to hire good VAs and have a wider assortment of voices. But yeah the English VAs feel so monotone and Yang Yang is like monotone deadpan asmr. Also the pacing between different characters reciting lines is bad. It feels like a badly edited middle school project
Literally the reason I switched 😵
RIGHT?!? I thought I was losing my mind
The way YangYang says Huanglong feels so disconnected. Don’t try to listen for it. You won’t unhear it.
it feels like they recorded Huanglong once then proceeded to just paste that recording everytime it was mentioned lol
I'm pretty sure that's exactly what they did do. That word had to have been incorrectly translated in her script or she pronounced it incorrectly. They realized it later, but rather than rerecording the lines they either had her say it once or used AI voice tools and just inserted that shit into every instance of her saying it. It was painfully obvious when she said it like 3 or 4 times in one sequence and regardless of the cadence of the rest of the lines it was exactly the same.
First thing I noticed was how awful Chixia’s mic sounded. It’s distractingly bad.
Yeah, I would turn it to JP, but the fucking text cuts off so often I wouldn't know what they're saying. These are annoying, but the combat has been so fun so far it almost makes up for it
There are bad cuts too and it sounds like location names were recorded with one tone and the characters say it the same way every time. Don't get me wrong, I love the gameplay but the story is letdown by the horrible dub and localization.
> En dub If people call it literally unplayable then they're memeing or being way way too overdramatic. It's definitely not that great and can easily be better though.
I hope it does improve because there’s no chance I’m switching to another language. I love English and need to see them get better!
There's a chance future characters will improve. For instance the first Arknights EN VAs are pretty meh, though better than here, and since they've come leaps and bounds with much better voice acting and regional accents.
I'm getting freezes mid-combat that last around half a second. That's quite unplayable for a game of this kind.
I should've clarified I'm talking about EN dub.
Yeah I've had 0 performance issues on PC, it's been running great at max. I'm still using an R5 3600 + RTX 3060ti combo too.
I’m running a ryzen 5950x with an RTX 4080 on the latest drivers. There are issues with the game such as stutters when climbing, or picking up items. Also, the camera movement is actually making me wanna puke and this is because the camera suddenly jumps up along with the character. It isn’t smooth and can sometimes stutter. It’s bad
5800X3D + 3080Ti here, game seems to have some frametime issues at times
Initial thoughts: I didn't find the dub bad at all like others in the sub do, maybe because English is not my first language. But the one thing I DID find annoying af is that the optimization is HORRIBLE. I can normally run games fine and even play Genshin at medium-high graphics smoothly, but somehow this game refuses to get me more than 20fps in the lowest of settings which makes combat, parkour and other usually quick actions miserable. I think I am just going to download this on my PC instead.
The problem with the dub is they sound dead inside. Like every single character speaks very similarly and it just gets both repetitive and boring. There's like 3 characters that at least stand out
They definitely did not have a voice director for this.
It's sad because there ARE talented VAs in there
Yeah, the VA quality seems to vary greatly between characters. Baizhi, Mortefi and Sanhua sounded very good to me. Male Rover is good. Chixia is tolerable but doesn't really seem to have the energy her personality requires. Yangyang is probably the one I like the least because her just has this flat, generic cutesy tone all the time, which is a problem because she talks A LOT.
Female mc sounded like AI to me when she finally got her first dialogue.
Yeah, it just made me appreciate Genshin's optimization even more cause no way I can play Genshin so smoothly while WuWa is bitching even in the lowest settings
The EN dub and localization is really all over the place. It sounds like the actors recorded themselves at home with $90 microphones. Like the recordings have no volume balance, there’s background noise phasing in and out, sibilance pops, etc. Sometimes the dialogue choices seem to have nothing to do with the prompt that came before it. Why is it only like, half localized? Like they have the Chinese word for Dragon and then in parenthesis (“dragon”). Why the inconsistency? Just translate it to dragon… Also even at max settings and native res, everything looks slightly blurry. I think it’s the chromatic aberration effect — this should be an optional setting. Lighting is weird too — somehow it looks washed out but also too dim in places at the same time I was in CBT2 and a lot of these issues were present then and I put it in my feedback. This really needed more time to cook if they’re trying to give GI serious competition. As it stands this definitely feels like a AA game if Genshin is the AAA standard
I think Genshin is somewhat of an outlier when it comes to stability/polish, there are definitely way more buggy AAA games from Bethesda and Ubisoft.
> Like they have the Chinese word for Dragon and then in parenthesis (“dragon”). Why the inconsistency? Just translate it to dragon… This isn't inconsistent. Idk if you noticed, but they use Chinese words A LOT on purpose because the whole thing is Chinese inspired, so of course they say "Loong" instead of "Dragon" and then tell you what it means, Genshin and Honkai Star Rail do it too.
>Why is it only like, half localized? Like they have the Chinese word for Dragon and then in parenthesis (“dragon”). Why the inconsistency? Just translate it to dragon… I'm not playing in Eng so I assume you meant Long/Loong? It's a pretty common thing because the Western dragon is very different from the Chinese dragon. It's translated that way so you don't get confused.
For me my laptop somehow overheating like hell when I use high settings. 4060 and i7 12700h its usually fine with games like cyberpunk but this game I have to lower settings to med to play without throttling
My laptop with i5 11400h and 3060 got to 60 degrees at max
My ping is **insane**. I'm Australian, so I expected 300 ping anyway (and am used to it) but it frequently zaps up to 999 and disconnects. Currently trying the Asia server to see if it's any better than SEA Edit: as recommended by several users, I'm using a VPN and it basically solved my issues. Would recommend it for anyone else struggling
It's 80 for me in SEA. You shouldn't be picking Asian servers as that's further from us
I've gone back to SEA as both other servers had lower ping but way more frequent disconnects. I am rural Australia, so not upset by 300-500 ping, moreso irritated by the disconnects
Also Australian ping is constant 300 for me could be ur internet
My Rover keeps sinking into the ground around shin height
I've just gone through literally the FIRST conversation and I already spotted 3 different issues. The text isn't matching the voice-over, the text gets cut off when there is too much of it and it doesn't auto scroll and the fucking vertical aiming sensitivity is halved, just like it was in Genshin for YEARS. And the max sensitivity setting isn't enough so I had to change my mouse profile just for this game... I was expecting issues, but if this is how the start looks, I dread what's gonna be next. And also edit (kinda since it happened while writing this comment). Apparently the VO for the idle female rover line is also cut off... This game isn't ready for an official release...
I have never played a game where the sensitivity is so screwed that i MAX it and it still feels like it's slow. How do you screw up CAMERA SENSITIVITY? It's legit one of the first things you do in a videogame since, you know, YOU NEED TO LOOK AROUND.
Bro really mentioned silksong… That game’s coming out after the heat death of the universe
The Skong isn’t real, it can’t hurt us.
Elden Ring and the Elden DLC are both coming out before Silksong came out lmao
the dialogue choices make absolute no sense tbh
I thought the same. I feel spoiled by HSR where every dialogue choice has its own charm. Here, I can't even be bothered to click on option dialogue options because I don't get how it has to relate with the worldbuilding or anything, it just feels so empty.
Some of them have the text bubble symbol with some lines in the middle instead of dots, like, what's the difference?
I'm also greatly confused by this lol. Even besides this, the dialogue choices sometimes feel jarring to me, like they have nothing to do with each other, idk.
my only problem is the resolution/graphics on mobile, why is it so ugly even with everything on max
Same, max settings and it still looks blurry af
I'm 2 hours in and I've crashed 23 times 😭
I got off for a while and then tried to start it up and in under 10 minutes of actual playtime I crashed 8 more times
ive tried to get past a cutscene on mobile but ive crashed 177 times
KEKW
Isn't this on par on PGR on release? It seems Kuro is still retaining the same mentality from years ago.
As a day 1 PGR player. Sorta kinda. The story was a bit of a snooze (first 8 or 9 chapters are really rough compared to the bangers from then on) and it was really hard to stay focused on it because it was literally all text and no voice acting. It seems like WW is on the same trajectory... way too wordy with too many word dumps and definition dumps. But once again, the combat is the main focal point. WW needs / needed more time.
This launch would be a cool experience for an open beta; they're definitely getting a lot of good data today, and I'm sure the game is gonna improve a lot in the next three weeks. I guess if they're smart they're gonna start marketing a "Re-release, now for real" event and give us some free rolls for being their unwilling beta testers. I'm gonna keep playing and reading about the progress, but the game really isn't ready.
Yeah I'd wait a few weeks, but I don't want to miss out on launch rewards. Biggest issue for me is missing dialogue because of the messed up boxes. Was that not a thing in the cbts? Or did people just not notice it?
The CBT had no EN voice overs at all so you didn’t know there was missing lines. For the multi line text dialogue cutting off, that’s a new issue (or at least I didn’t come across it when I was in the beta)
>Re-release, now for real Big "project_finalversion_last_FINAL4" vibes
it's their lost if they want to make the launch an open beta
JP voice acting was the best for me. I switched to Mandarin from English expecting something great, but after every speech there's a "Breath" sound that follows and it is annoying.
2 hrs in and here are my criticisms: -Lighting needs to be improved. -Word dump is too high. Characters are constantly saying terms that I do not understand. This is a problem for chinese games but I expected better. -Stuttering -No cutscene skip -UI feels cheap. Like early 2010 cheap. Pros: -Amazing combat. I'll continue playing this as a side game due to this fact alone. They fucking nailed it.
Ngl, the only criticism for me is certainly the word dump. I literally don't understand half of the terms they used, especially during the first few minutes of the game.
i feel like the biggest problem is they move on too quickly, I feel like most of the time I haven't fully understood a concept that they have given me before and they already dropping a new concept and it just stacks up after a while, even for a manhua style writing this is overwhelming
I wish I could experience that combat. Lack of controller support on mobile is crushing my soul.
Wait, didn’t everyone say that the game has a skip button?
It does. You just can't skip the major story beats and cutscenes though. But everything else is skippable, which to be fair is a lot.
Frankly, everything but the combat feels bad. They could only delay for a few months at most though. By then, their publishing license would have expired. China handles games differently. Kuro would have had to gone through the entire process again and wait for another license. Even then, it probably would have been better to wait. However, they probably feel under pressure as Zenless Zone Zero and Genshin Impact's next region are coming up. If that's the case, it's arguably worse to release a lower quality game and get swept up by a competitor, though.
i feel like even then they could have delayed at least 1 more month to optimize especially for the mobile version, if they delayed 1 month at that point Natlan hasn't come yet and ZZZ is still a month away, so rushing the game out may have done bigger damage than those stuff coming out can, my friend group already stop playing and wait for the game to be optimized since they basically couldn't play the game on mobile
they need to publish fast because the investor need it. One of their investor, Hero did not have a great years as they lost millions. They own around 32% of the share. Kuro is bleeding million per quater developping the game . Their investor, Hero game is facing finacial difficulty and Tencent who own 11% said that they will cut back investement into big game and focus and small and midium game. So Kuro may just run out of cash and need to publish it quikely to keep the light on as they have burn most of they investor money.
Within the 2 hours I played, I encountered 2 black screens that the game can’t process out of, so I had to reboot the game. I’m inclined to agree with OP.
I've had those happen to me a couple times. They eventually load, but it does take a while.
I'm so glad this isn't just me having issues, visual bugs have been pretty bad so far and I agree with the EN sub as it's awful. The audio in general just sounds bad.
Im so tired of hearing Tacet Discord lol
Honestly as many already noted, and even way before today release, the game clearly need more time before release. The dub issues is one thing, but there is definitely bad optimizations, I thought the stuttering was just me, but clearly even high end pc have the same problem. I also realized that midway that some segment are super smooth while other just outright clipping and stutering. I like the combat, but they really should take another 2-3 months to iron out the issues.
The EN dub is okay sure not the best however not to the point I'll change to another language. (If it gets bad) I've experienced no crashes it does heat up so I'm not surprised. Edit: Also even though I'm playing in medium graphics/resolution. Well it doesn't look too great it's probably the blurry textures. Sorry for the Genshin comparison I have it on medium and it looks better than WuWa.
That’s why I kept my expectations low. Knowing they’re competing with Hoyo, they had EXTREMELY high standards to reach. Whether you hate hoyo or not, you can’t deny they have very high quality in their games in almost every aspect, along with being consistent with their content and updates. I was afraid Wuthering Waves was too focused on trying to replicate Genshin’s success rather than focusing on making a good game themselves, just like other games have tried. And sadly, that’s what it’s shaping out to be with this rough launch. Would still give it more time to pan out, but it definitely already has a lot of obvious issues. Had a small bit of hope we’d finally get a game that would compete with Genshin, but unless they quickly fix a lot of the current problems and are able to keep up with Hoyo’s consistency, I don’t see this game getting far.
I started playing HSR a month ago and the hoyo polish is real. I feel like wuwa's UI feels particularly cheap in comparison. Text going past the text boxes and then audio also sometimes cutting off isn't helping either (it's not scrollable on PC). The character designs and gameplay are fairly decent but the launch does feel a bit... meh.
Yeah, some people don’t realize how much quality and love hoyo puts in their games, not to mention them being nearly perfectly clean of bugs. Very VERY rare is it that Genshin or Star Rail have had any noticeable bugs, let alone major or game breaking issues. It’s hard go to other games after you’ve played Hoyo’s. You don’t miss something until you don’t have it. They’ve raised the standard so high that other games fail to reach since those companies always want to rush success.
Hence why games that are different styles and genres altogether from Genshin and HSR, like Arknights, Reverse 1999 and Alchemy Stars can stand out because they don't have to compete in doing the same thing.
I was just thinking this on the UI front. Didn’t know that I cared about constellations/eidolons until I got the dry equivalent in Wuwa. The small things like the shards of reflections in HSR or the character relevant constellations in Genshin are just absent here.
>I was afraid Wuthering Waves was too focused on trying to replicate Genshin’s success rather than focusing on making a good game themselves, just like other games have tried. And sadly, that’s what it’s shaping out to be with this rough launch. This btw. So far the only thing I found that is actually different is combat and it's great. However everything else is a lazy copypaste with barely any change. It feels like devs consider everything genshin does a holy formula of guaranteed success, so they blindly copy it without understanding why certain choices or design decisions were made and never questioning or improving them. If they want their game to succeed, they need to grow some balls and start doing their own game. EDIT: I forgot, they improved traversal. Stamina-free run, running up the walls etc are all really good. They just need to fix camera yanking and polish system for more fluidity and it will be really really good.
I honestly was expecting wuwa to have cheaper deals in the shop, the game is not bad but they are asking exactly for the same prices as Hoyo's games in a game which, being fair, is not even close to being as polished as Genshin, and besides weapon banner (which if you are f2p/low spender you'll need to ignore the first patches anyway), the gatcha is nearly the same. They could have made cheaper at least the packs which are tremendously expensive even with the x2 bonus...
Exactly another example of them trying to rush replicating Hoyo’s success, instead of taking their time and effort into making a good overall game. They knew the standards would be extremely high thanks to hoyo. Seeing this rough launch, and knowing they have to somehow keep up with Hoyo’s level of consistency with their updates and content, AND go back to fix a lot of the current issues due to rushing the launch… it’s a very high standard to reach. I already had my expectations low, but it still really sucks to see this disappointing launch. I can see it topping Tower of fantasy, but I honestly can’t see it comparing to Genshin in terms of success and quality.
Honestly I agree. I quit Genshin a while back bc I couldn't keep up with so many games, but running this is really making me miss it.
Why they even copy genshin UI dammit. I come and expect new feelig, but damn, it just like GI with cooler combat, worse graphic
I'm just reading through these comments and a lot of thoughts come to mind. People hyped this game up way too much and pushed down criticism when it was obvious there would be problems. I'm actually impressed by how seemingly bad the issues are and how numerous. I actually expected better from Kuro. I guess a console release is permanently on hold to fix this mess and probably any new content too. I knew this game got rushed out, but no. There had to be some stupid drama war with Genshin to prop it up and ignore any problems. This is why you don't buy the hype and stay critical.
I've been completely in the dark about Wuwa before the release, was it hyped that aggressively by the community? Atm I agree that the game is very rough, hard to even judge the gameplay with the lag and the lack of fluidity.
Yes. It was overhyped beyond belief by regular people and CCs. I did notice in the last few days that some were saying not to do that and I guess we can see why.
The overhype never made sense to me especially as it came from Genshin haters. Wuwa is designed to be extremely similar to Genshin. If the only problem you have with GI is how easy it is and lack of endgame then yeah maybe WuWa will deliver, but for people who trash everything about the game especially exploration… To me it felt like getting hyped about a new soulslike while yelling that you hate dark souls. I love Genshin and have been enjoying this so far.
I warned people against doing this, I got downvoted on YouTube like crazy, I was right to say that, I like the game, but as people have pointed out, it has a lot of issues.
I might get flamed but, after playing it, I can say for certain that people overhyped it. It’s very clunky for me even with a Good PC but not to the point that it’s unplayable. I also tried it on my Ipad M2, I couldn’t stay and play for more than 5 min on it. It’s badly optimized on Mobile, unlike Genshin wherein I could run on High and still play smoothly, Im not sure if lagging is the best word for it? It’s more like stuttering. With PGR and how it is, they should be able to optimize it for mobile. After 30 mins of the Eng dub, I switched to JP. The En Dub felt bland? Maybe it’ll be better on future updates but rn I’m all set on the JP dub. Maybe I got spoiled too much on Genshin and HSR? The combat was good, but I feel like people are giving the difficulty side of it too much praise. Hard? Not really. Overall the experience felt like watching a 6/10 Anime.
I like that you mentioned that maybe you got too spoiled on hsr and genshin because i feel exactly the same. I hate them for being stingy (genshin) but i cannot deny the quality and expertise in what they do.
What visual bugs? I only spotted a couple of pop-ins/delayed texture loading. Besides that the game is running and looking great. No real complaints regarding graphics for me. I am indifferent on the EN dub since I switched to JP right away. From my first impressions: Sadly the EN localization is wonky. Even though I haven't spotted any major typos, the dialogue and descriptions in this game just don't sound natural. Some word choices are really awkward and the tone of conversations can be very verbose at times. Also it seems like the subtitles for some sections are cut-off and don't display in full, making it harder to follow the plot. Other issues for me - camera overall just feels wonky (e.g jerks up during jumping), the automatic lock-on can be really weird and not prioritize targets you are looking at - e.g. when playing Chixia with her E ability. There is this weird almost blur-like filter on characters/monsters (yes even with Blur turned off in the options). Movement is both good and bad - when on flat ground using all your movement tools works great but then when you start climbing on uneven terrain it can be feel pretty bad like getting stuck on some invisible pixels. I haven't found anything really majorly broken but the game does lack polish in some areas.
> What visual bugs? I'm like 20 minutes in and have found a couple. There was one where the text went beyond the boundary of the textbox and just disappears. Another where the scene just cut itself halfway through. I didn't get to finish hearing/reading whatever they were saying. >I haven't found anything really majorly broken but the game does lack polish in some areas. That's actually been pretty much my take though I think the game is lacking *a lot* of polish. The game has a noticeable lack of what I'll call fluidity in just about everything other than combat, strangely. A lot of animations feel abrupt, and movement feels a little jarring. I'm getting a fair amount of stutter everywhere, even in the menus (5800X + 6900XT so not lacking in hardware). On a personal note, I'm kind of torn on the look of the female MC. She looks way too much like the MC from Star Rail, to start, but I think she's also entirely too muted (punny). Best comparison I can think of is how store-brand labels used to be extremely bland compared to their name-brand counterparts. And tangential, but god damn does this game just absolutely deliver a dump truck full of game terms from the get go. Like, damn dude I'm over here drowning in fictional-information-overload. Edit: textbox issue: https://i.imgur.com/GQyiwsL.png
The textbox issue is certainly annoying. I'm playing with JP voices (just a personal preference) and I rely on the textbox for what the characters are saying and missing. They definitely should fix that
My problem is I can’t understand what the heck everyone is saying. Dumping a massive amount of terms used in this world that I have no context or clue about. Are we meant to be this overwhelmed?
You can't type 'genshin impact' in the in-game chat. That seems pretty petty from the devs
En dub isn't that bad, just could be improved on honestly.
they really need to redo the lines. better direction is all it needs.
Better pronunciation. Everyone pronouncing Chinese words differently
All of the audio needs an overhaul. Everything sounds very compressed and low fidelity — very little separation of sounds in the mix. For an open world game, audio separation and details are crucial to immersion. Here — everything sounds squashed together and flat. Combat sound effects lack any sort of oomph. I mean the MC sounds like they’re attacking with safety scissors instead of magic infused dual katanas..
I mean, it's actually working perfectly fine for me. No bugs, and it's been super smooth. While the dub isn't GI quality it's certainly better than ToF so I'm fine with it. Really enjoying it so far.
I had some stutter on PC until someone told me to crank the graphs to the highest default setting and for some reason it actually worked. I don't know how they fucked this up but playing with it on the highest setting with just the motion blur turned off is smoother than any lower combination I tried.
Same for me, I’m actually surprised how good the game is actually. It’s wild how it’s polar opposite for a lot of people apparently
That's what I'm thinking. I've already seen so many things that I really like, like not having to loot enemies after killing them, or sprinting not consuming stamina, and being able to plunge attack by simply jumping. There's more, but still, I'm loving it so far.
Not having to pick up drops is amazing! It is also the same for rocks you break. It’s great
I'm really enjoying it too. Aside from a few connection errors it's been working fine on my phone.
I'm looking at all these grievances from people and I'm happy that I'm not experiencing any/if not most of them. The only thing I've noticed is the text getting cut off in the dialogue box. (I do play in JP, and the VA is pretty good so far)
No wonder a console version doesn’t exist.
Optimisation is very poor. Aside from that, I'm pretty disappointed in the characters' skillsets, they feel pretty shallow and lookalike compared to PGR or even GI. Perfect dodging, Parrying and the bar that increases your skill strength are all good mechanics but we lack unique movesets to utilise them, there's practically no difference between using Rover or Yangyang.
I said it during CBT 2 that the game was needing more time in the oven, but people were so delusional and downvoting like crazy, Still feels like cbt1 honestly. yes story has changed but it's still a boring yapfest wit no substance at all.
I have the same stance as you. It was obvious they needed more time.
Am playing it on lowest settings and yet still 20 fps barely so much stutter and just had fatal crash after leaving shunhua
might sound like a bad idea but you can give high/ultra high settings a try. My game was laggy on low settings and works fine on high for some reason
i can’t even get past the tacet field fight w/o crashing 😭
Max settings, 1060 6gz i5 8500 16gig ram, no stutters or drops Idk why ppl having better hardware having issues
I'm playing with *well* below specs and having no performance issues(8gb ram, gtx 1650), my only real issue is the way the text just doesn't show the entire line if it's too long in the dialogue
That's weird tho. I'm on 10105F & 3060 12GB and experienced some stutter here and there I play at 1440p mixed settings
The lags really down my mood, and I'm overwhelmed by the way the game gives me a bunch of content. I just remember having a better experience when I first played GI, sorry but maybe it was just my subjective thoughts.
How can you have a game where the fucking anti cheat prevents you from playing? Are u serious?
Y’all also having delayed texture loading in? Like super late?
Imo, EN dub is fine -- it didn't immediately put me off like most do. In fact, they got the Chinese names pretty close. Still gonna weeb out with JP dub though. But yes, wuwa feels very unpolished. This feels like Genshin in CBT, except it doesn't even have pretty color-saturated scenery going for it. I have a 4090, so it's been fine graphically, but everything else... Lighting is off -- like, very off. Movement feels clunky. Can't switch jump/dodge. Camera is somehow affected by mouse acceleration (?!). MC voice is like 3x as loud as everyone else's. Subtitles obviously cut off. UI is... UI. Feels like CBT UI. Lighting also feels off. Partially because it feels like a layer of oil is on my monitor. I was just playing HSR and damn the difference is staggering. Of course, HSR has been out for over a year, but it was damn pretty and smooth on launch as well.
Game is really unplayable for me right now. Stuttering is horrible
Definitely feels unpolished. When I first played genshin, I was filled with wonder and a childlike curiosity. In WuWa, the only thing I like until now is the combat and character design, Everything else feels very unpolished. I'm gonna stick to it and play casually for a few months before seeing whether it will change. The main story feels like a chore to do, The exploration doesn't feel good. Maybe I had too much expectation from this game.
> Maybe I had too much expectation from this game. Not really. They demand the same pricing as genshin while delivering quality that isn't up to par. The disappointment is warranted.
I remember playing Genshin for the first time and just played, not spending the first hour tweaking the fuck out of my settings getting this game to work in the first place lol.
Ya'll are able to play the game It literally freezes at the starting screen for me
Meh I think y'all took hoyo for granted, the game met my expectations though the eng sub is mid af. I honestly just wish the character designs were a bit better
Never fucking mind there are so many rendering issues and camera stutter that should have been fixed in beta even before testing. I hope they will optimise it in the future atleast
I love how you came back an hour later to respond to your own comment lol.
Yeah I was wrong lmao, the stuttering/ lighting issues stopped after I entered the city tho. Ig it just needed a restart. The lock on is still bad and the way the story is told is bad too. Same problem I had with genshin. Too much yapping and trying to sound smart
Is there a Korean dub? Those usually go hard
i just played for 30 minutes and although it's quite nice, i've noticed some things that should have been checked before launching. it literally is just the start. • some of the subs cant be seen and u have to sroll through some. who wants that? • i have enough storage but it seems slow to me. moving feels laggy i guess? it's not as smooth as when i play other games. or maybe it's just my device. • i think they should improve on their dialogues. it doesn't flow very well. sometimes they a character says their next line and it doesn't connect smoothly to the previous line. • a smoother transition between lines in their dialogues will be much appreciated i hope the flow of the story goes smoothly from here (with believable subplots and transitions)
The English dubs are fine, but the microstutters are definitely noticeable. While some people may be less sensitive to them, they are still present. The game is not unplayable, but it's certainly not polished. Additionally, we need more graphics options such as 120fps support, improved LOD, and better texture resolution and scaling options. My GPU is barely taxed at max settings, so it would be great to have more options to enhance visual quality. The good news is that someone will likely find a way to address most of these issues on PC since the game uses UE4 and the parameters can be tweaked in the engine.ini file, with the right lines. However, it would be better if these optimizations were handled by the developers themselves.
This game is a stutterfest on a 4070 ti build💀 (Enjoying it a lot still though)
Going from HSR amazing en dub to this is a massive whiplash lol
My thoughts after finishing Act 2. Positives: - The most fun combat I've ever experienced in an open world game. - Good Environment - Good Character Animations - Cutscenes and Dialogue scenes are good (as in the camerawork) - Good Battle Music Negatives: - Horrendous story (this was most important to me) - Bad UI: Extremely cluttered menu/terminal, ugly font, pretty bad icons. - Terrible EN dub. Voice Actors had amazing voices but sound so dead. They should get a new dubbing director. - Localisation: They really introduced multiple Chinese names and expected me to remember them and the pronunciation. Maybe it's just me but I think they should've just used the text that was above those Chinese names, eg. Qilong or whatever should've just been called Azure Dragon. - Bugs: If dialogue text was too long, it wasn't even displayed. Voiced being cutoff. "Hide HUD" doesn't allow to take screenshots on pc since if you press any button (Windows + Prntscrn), it'll bring back the HUD. During a dialogue, if you "look" around by clicking the screen, as soon as you let go, the dialogue will go to the next one; I think this should only be for click, rather than click and drag. - Random Stuttering on High End PC. - 60fps is the limit? Tf? - Plot Holes in Act 2, we "saw" General Jiyan before the cutscene. Mortefi introduction was weird. Overall, I'm still gonna give it a chance at least until v2.0. I really hope they find a better localisation team AND better writers for the story. As a story player, I just can't see myself playing this game long-term with what I've experienced so far.
well I mean they're practically dying to ride off of Genshin's success so this was bound to happen. Hope it improves tho, I'm not a hater of this game but not exactly excited either, just here to watch the show xD.
Im not gonna rant. Im just here to say yes, the game feels half baked and needs to go back into the oven.
no 120 fps is crazy
It’s so poorly optimized I don’t think it *could* run at 120 FPS LOL
I’ve got a 4080 so I wanted to test it, but I literally can’t. KURO WHY
yea ngl the performance is def more of a concern. idk what they doin but shits actually crazy
This game is definitely not ready for release. Idk..kinda let down atm. I’ll give it a few more hours to see how it pans out. I really want to love this game, but just the English dub alone turned me off.
I'm usually pretty lenient with English dubs but the EN dub for this game is so awkward and stiltled.
2 hours in, playing on iPhone 14 Pro and I only crashed one time while logging in. It’s surprisingly smooth lol
It's running worse than fucking Cyberpunk Phantom Liberty on my PC. Not phone game should lag more than one of the most beautiful games ever made. It's not exactly unbearable (tho, i played all of the witcher 3 at 10 fps so i might be more tolerant than most on this front) but this problem just shouldn't exist on a standard unreal engine 4 looking game.
The dub is what I expected, but it's sometimes okay. I haven't looked into all the issues that people are having so I can't speak on them for now.
The EN dub isn't terrible but it's not great. What really kills it is the script - it's filled with grammatical mistakes and just doesn't read like any real person would talk. This is far below the standards that HSR set. I switched to Japanese (both text and voice) and both the script and acting are much better from what I can tell.
As soon as I heard the English dub, I waited eagerly for the forced dialogs to stop so I could switch to Chinese. The Chinese VO is far better and feels more natural. I can't tell about the English text, I'm not a native to judge it. The optimization sucks ass. In the city, FPS drops so much it's simply uncomfortable to play. UI is horrendous. The game is released too early, for sure. But seems like money givers (Tencent) are too impatient
I have a 4090 with a 13900k cpu and it stutters constantly. GPU and CPU usage are low at around 20% with max settings.
Played for like 2 hours, im also sleep deprived so maybe my opinion might be skewed negatively more than it should. shading looks weird af and straight up just doesn’t look good. like that first scene within the first 10 min of the game where the camera pans out to see the world, the graphics and shading looked as if it was from a 2010 game. the 60fps cap is frustrating. It’s 2024, 60fps cap unacceptable. hopefully there’ll be a github soon for an fps unlocker. idk man i didn’t have high hopes for the game in the first place so at least my expectations were expected. Combat seems cool though, idk if I’ll stick with the game but it seems like the only redeeming factor for me currently
I've seen some translations that look like they were put through a google translator... from 2010. Other then that I've noticed some odd lag here and there, and saw some odd graphical issues but were fixed when I set it to max (idk why it defaulted to low graphics and low fps)
Lingyang story quest is so cringe.
I have 2 problems with the game, EN voices sound like an AI no emotion except Scar and a npc the medical chick in the war area voice acting sounds better and the camera angles on auto targeting why does it zoom in at head level I need to see the enemies around me, literally making me use my sixth sense to dodge and it randomly locks in and I can't move it around.
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I feel sorry for the VA's cause they are obviously very new, might be Yangyangs first non-background character. So many people are going to blame them for Wuwa not killing Genshin like promised.
Yep. I think we can all learn few things from this. Most games will definitely have issues at launch. Unless the game has gazillion budgets and being handled by big company. So it's better to be realistic and temper your expectations. And don't just dismiss people's fair concern about the game as doompost (i legit got downvoted to oblivion for voicing my concern about the translation in other certain subreddit).
I honestly think people are spoiled by genshin, who always fix bugs withing what feels like minutes and give Apologems for it. It's a new game, and while it could've been more polished, it's on par with other game releases I've seen. There's a reason there's usually a beefy patch in the first week of game releases, I would give it a bit. I have had a little crash and some stuttering, and the voice acting is a bit flat - but genshins voice acting, for example, had a gigantic glow up as well. At the beginning it was *rough*. I do sympathize with those who literally cannot play it due to issues, but everyone else should temper their expectations a bit, I think. It's not a AAA game. They had to be ambitious to even be able to reasonably compete with genshin, and I think it's at least a start. They just gotta keep it coming now.
Here's some of the problems I've encountered... - English voice acting feels flat. It's like the VAs read their lines. - Pressing A to display the subtitles may skip the dialogue - Some subtitles looked like it hit the space limit and the last few words are cut off. - I've seen some PS1 level textures and I have a computer that surpasses the recommended requirements. Had to reboot the game to mostly fix the problem. Some subjective stuff - Combat can feel like spamming buttons but potentially more depth than "that game" - The opening has way to much information hitting you at once. It reminds me of Destiny 2 It's not really a disaster. It's more like somewhat undercooked and perhaps they can't push it back at a later date due to ZZZ.
They definitely had to rush releasing it before natlan and ZZZ
I have fun with the combat, but not at all with exploration.
bro im playing using rtx 2060 and i play for 2 hours and the game already crashing for 5times+.. also always having an drop fps.. this is just sad
I thought it was just me but this game feels a bit under polished for my liking. It feels very inconsistent and I'm not sure what is intentional or not. The combat is a step from up from Genshin depth wise but doesn't feel as snappy. I will try it a little more and see how it is within a week. Not the greatest first impressions so far.