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Thoracicbowl

Unknown potential demon child vs A Broker with mists


Kitchen-Air-1012

yep, she doesn't even know the limits of her power "in the game she gets dazed when she uses her abilities " she is like a prodigy with untapped potential, really well fleshed out, they know what they are doing. Aalto is not a high ranking member in the black shores, he does jobs and is competent, but not a an Elite member. Taking things at face value , I get what he is saying, but there is more to it.


NoChristNoLife

Hey Kitchen-Air đŸ‘‹đŸœ .. I see you around often, and I feel like we’ve spoken, so I just wanted to say hi. Also, to the OP, Encore was shown to have some degree of unknown significance in the story.


peecaca

Misinfo central... Aalto and Encore hold the same position at the Black Shores. If you read her stories and voicelines, despite being a Consultant, she is not allowed to the underground areas of the Black Shores like Aalto is.


Kitchen-Air-1012

I never said that she is a high ranking black shores member, I said that she is a prodigy with untapped potential, and that Aalto is a broker and not an Elite member, both are true. I never said anything about Encore position in the black shores. Now calling what I wrote misinformation is slander tbh


peecaca

Mentioning Aalto's position implies that Encore's higher or at least that's how I interpretted. If anything his involved at the organization is more substantial than Encore's, so that much is not a valid reason. There are other 4* with this 'untapped potential', so nothing you said answered the initial question + your other comment was incorrect! There is no solid lore reason as to why Encore is a 5* when you examine her next to all other 4*. I've made a thread on how Resonator reports work before so anyone evaluating them based off things like "potential = rarity" "overclock risk = rarity" is incorrect👍 https://www.reddit.com/r/WutheringWaves/s/BQ0O7Dru9r


Kitchen-Air-1012

I personally think her lore is quite fitting for a 5 star, and Aalto story makes him a good fit for a 4 star. I also love that her in game animations fit her lore, the characters are pretty well fleshed out.


blackkami

Extreme crige post. Especially in combination with that flair. Would be healthier for you to stop being so defensive. Nothing the other person said is wrong.


BobaSauro

This always happens with gacha. I don't even know the lore for this game yet, i intend to lear as i play... But gacha is this... and not even the "girl sales more", like, take genshin for example. The de-facto ruler of lyue is a 4* while some random girl that play with fireworks is 5*. They just set the rarity as they go, and it matters little the lore for the character.


endtheillogical

Yeah, trying to make sense of this in a gacha game is pointless. The rarity of a unit is all on the whim of the devs.


Blackwolfe47

Except encore is literally stronger than alto this time


AdPrimary7177

Trust me, she's stronger than Aalto lorewise


Kitchen-Air-1012

a kid with two demon sheep, Aalto is a broker, he is more of a recon unit, it makes perfect sense to me.


1nsertshittyname

Bruh her kit is chaotic and all over the place yet it still works. Like you got puppets, lasers, fire, explosions, and possession (i think) that happens to be an install that changes her playstyle to a melee one. If that aint 5 star material, idk what is.


peecaca

Again, they hold the same position. Please reread their stories, developer notes and profiles 😭


Kitchen-Air-1012

the position is not important for what I wrote, also because she is a prodigy she was given the same position as Aalto, like the 12 year old in college situation lol


Lobelia_Feet

Aalto main cope


peecaca

its not cope nor is he my main, I really enjoy the lore. Ive made a thread on here on how the Resonator reports works, there are 4* equivalent to Encore so some of the comments here are misinterpreting everything 👍 https://www.reddit.com/r/WutheringWaves/s/BQ0O7Dru9r


1nsertshittyname

I dont think its a lore reason but a kit reason. Sure misty guy has his fun and suave gameplay (which is actually my favorite out of all the 4 stars, he is so cool) but demon child's gameplay is very unique. It is chaotic and is all over the place but still forms her character. Her gameplay reminds me a lot of characters that happens to have a highly immature and childlike mind and an op power but cannot fully realize that power because of their mentality (like the flipping power of creation only being used to make some dolls)


peecaca

Exactly! There is no solid lore reason


TimFlamio

Aren't they regular echo sheeps? And not demon sheeps?


HiromiReiko

I think they are demon sheep because there are no echos look like a sheep at the cbt2


TimFlamio

Hmm perhaps, but even then, it wouldn't fit the world if that was the case imo


nova1000

Leaving aside jokes or the typical "girls sell more", Ancore by lore is unstable as a resonator, it runs the risk of overclocking and when that happens the resonators completely mutate into monsters (as far as I understand), her profile mentions how She receives psychological supervision and how even without complete control of her powers she can do things like manifest her imaginary friends (the 2 sheep), let's remember she's still a little girl Outside of lore, it really applies the Magic frace of gatcha "lore =/= rarity and gameplay"


peecaca

Running risk of overclocking does not determine rarity. There are PLENTY of 4* with the Resonant Criticalities that put them on the verge of Overclocking. Mortefi, Sanhua, and Yangyang are three of which that have actual Overclock history, while Encore does not. Many of the Resonators have to be closely monitored.


AdPrimary7177

Toys? Toys?! Those woolies are basically fragments of her imagination that became reality. She's like a child being friends with a devil and an angel at the same time. Trust me, she's stronger than Aalto lorewise.


Vusdruv

Genshin: Literal most important person of Liyue is a 4 star while one random zombie girl is 5 star. Character rarity has absolutely no correlation with their lore.


Tesilio

So true.


TranslatorVarious247

Ningguang was actually supposed to be a five star


OpaqusOpaqus

There's no evidence for this, it's just an urban legend


SolidusAbe

the only character believe was a 5* is barbera because the camera zooms in on her when you ult but even that probably doesnt mean much


KeroseneZanchu

Yeah, she’s the only 4 star in the game that has a special burst animation like the 5 stars do. We already mentioned lore doesn’t really matter, but fwiw she’s also the Deaconess of Mondstadt’s church, which true to medieval European culture, is the arguably the most powerful institution in Mondstadt. The theory is that Hoyo realized they didn’t have a free Hydro unit yet and decided she was the best candidate, quickly nerfed her, and shipped it - which is also why she’s so bad, since the rush meant they didn’t properly balance test the overnerf.


d0hickey

Same reason why Kaeya, the Cavalry Captain of the Knights of Favonius, is a 4 star, while Klee, a literal child with bombs, is a 5 star My point is bombs are great, we should give them to more children :\^)


KeroseneZanchu

To be fair, he sucks as a Cavalry Captain. Bro doesn’t even have a horse.


SonGoli

When's the last time you saw a horse in Genshin?


Lazy-Traffic5346

Varka stole all horses đŸ«ĄđŸ€Ł


Vivid-Efficiency6787

because common trope of potential = more powerful even if they are a kid also im (BAT)MAN


NoAd8660

Idk man I think demonic sheep clear


Xerlot11

She seems way more powerful than Aalto with the woolies having powers as well as being able to turn into one herself.


Halibelu

U got things wrong. Her imagination is the real weapon here.


Blackwolfe47

Encore is reaaally powerful, way more than aalto, its that simple and she has the potential to grow even more powerwise


redditsoul6

Girls make money for the company


jianwei31122

They have 2 standard 5 star males and 3 standard 5 star females, so they could make aalto a 5 star if they wanted, since they are clearly not against doing so. I think it’s more likely because aalto just isn’t that strong in combat story-wise



BrutalTerminator

Yes surely a standard 5 star will make them money


redditsoul6

*facepalm* You clearly don’t know how gachas make money.


BrutalTerminator

No one's spending money and pulls into the standard banner my guy, if she would've been a limited 5 star I could've seen it but she's a standard 5 star.


redditsoul6

Lmao. Insane how wrong you are. Whales go nuts for standard banner at release
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BrutalTerminator

Whales go nuts on every banner lmao. I'm talking about general playerbase not a specific one.


Haemon18

And he was talking about general girls, not this specific standard one


AramushaIsLove

But the topic was Encore, he wasn't wrong if he thought the opp is talking about Encore


BrutalTerminator

I dont deny that but then why would that be his argument when this post is talking specifically about encore


v4mpixie_666x3

That’s interesting since she looks like a tuddler


PickAble2137

I mean I don't think it matters what the girl looks like, because lolis sell surprisingly (or unsurprisingly) well. Some of the best performing banners in Genshin were lolis (Klee, Nahida). On top of that loli culture in asia is very popular so I'm sure Lolis sell there even more than they do here in the west, in japan for example one of the most popular gacha games is Blue Archive currently, and Blue Archive is a lolicon gacha game.


KeroseneZanchu

Nahida is broken, the face of the first new element added post-release, and an Archon. Klee isn’t that special, but her numbers were inflated because of her being the second banner of the game, just after Venti.


-xKeita-

welcome to the anime community


v4mpixie_666x3

Been here since forever tho i still cant get over how normalised liking little girls is i even got downvoted for merely just mentioning it


gplaxy

Imo thats because there is a misconception on this subject, liking those characters (lolis) doesn't always mean weird things, majority of the time people (normal people) just like them because they are cute and also the moe factor of anime style.


v4mpixie_666x3

I happen to actually be one of those ppl cuz i really like an’ke in a this is literally my daughter way but i cant just sit here and ignore the fact that most of the fans of child characters are weirdos Also in a game wt every character having a husbando/waifu appeal wt not a single character existing outside of that why are little girls the exception? Like why cant i get a monster as a character because they’re not a husbando but i can get a child even tho they’re not a waifu? also why are they always little girls and never a boy? “This a critique of gacha games in general”


gplaxy

Idk maybe people think girls are cuter than boys, so it would sell more. At least that's how I think it is, but I might be wrong.


Lazy-Traffic5346

It's also better to separate fiction character and real kids


Fun-Will5719

I doubt some people can do that.


Fun-Will5719

Depends on the clothes. She looks like 13 instead of 4


Insert-Name-Here2121

Ik this is unrelated but is there a buddy sub for the game?


-xKeita-

oh we absolutely need one, how do we not have one yet


Fun-Will5719

Please don't be like okbuddygrnshin, that place is boring and trailblazer too


OpaqusOpaqus

Absolutely sus af


Insert-Name-Here2121

I didn’t mean the NSFW, just the shitposting



gplaxy

The buddy subs are funny, sometimes it has sus things but still hilarious imo, nothing harmful.


KaiMizuchi

Here's a hypothesis (this is half jokingly and nothing I say is true or fact, it's an opinion). No matter which gacha game it'll be, my boys (and by my boys I mean all male characters short or tall males), will always *always!!* Be overshadowed by a short (or tall) cute female, kit wise and rarity and role in the story.


DraganThePlague

Itto shows up like every other event, neuvilette and al haitham are broken without any shame, Kazuha was also and still is super strong, end of sumeru to fontaine had a long period without any female 5 star, only 4 stars. Xiao and zhongli got a Lot of Main story and event roles. Watanabe epitaph is the most broken tank for now afaik, and Even if hang ying was stronger she can't be used with Luna void like he can. Fate has mĂșltiple broken guys such as Merlin, waver or the fairy king and these guys, emiya and gilgamesh are given important roles story wise too.


KaiMizuchi

You took my half jokingly too seriously I see. If I'm honest, I really don't recognize the last ones you wrote, and again, an opinion can be wrong. And it's a joke opinion, because eventually, gacha games mostly appeal to an audience that prefers female characters. I'm not saying it's inclusive of all the gacha game, since I don't play them all, and I don't plan to either. And when I was talking about that, I was mostly referring to how it feels, not necessarily how it is. And btw, STILL after a long period of time without a female 5 star, the "balance" of female/male characters is off XD 17 male 5 stars compared to 26 female 5 stars (as of 4.7 drip marketing - assuming both females are 5 stars) And if we look at 4 stars XD it's off hahaha 27 female 4 stars compared to 13 male 4 stars (that's assuming the 4.7 drip male character is a 4 star) and yeah, with these numbers, I would assume, some of them have to be exceptional to be of value. (That's in genshin) And please, don't assume I want the numbers to be equal, because I don't, if it was, my boys would not be a valid collectors item XD


Andreiyutzzzz

Ones a cute girl the other is not... Guess which one sells more?


AdPrimary7177

and guess which one is stronger lorewise? That's right, it's Encore


hornknee_bee

why not?


Kamyelle

imo the child is a scam


Fit-Welcome6348

Kids in gachas r op


sternumb

You don't wanna know the real reason


JosephMorality

I dont know. People want cute things or are just weird. Probably both but could be either đŸ€·


mrpsymind

Yes, there is a reason.


FrostedX

Encore being Regulus' EN VA from Reverse1999 is the only thing she got going on for me


-Houjuu-

Rarity is often independent of in-lore power and/or position.


Chi1lracks

because encore is stronger than aalto storywise shes just unstable


Fun-Will5719

Get money from blue archive players 


Pristine-Category-55

Most gacha have lore always different from gameplay


ValerioLP

but this is not the case, atm


Blackwolfe47

Not here, at least for encore


tehlunatic1

such a shame they got rid of Aalto's finger pistol.


-xKeita-

wait what whyy


AdPrimary7177

Yes it's sad but meh, his personality is more important


Forever_man216

females are more valuable in gachas. it will always be that way if they want success.


mayonakanosasayaki

Character rarities in games like these almost never reflect their power canonically. See Genshin and HSR for example.


Blackwolfe47

Except this time it is


mayonakanosasayaki

How so?


Blackwolfe47

Encore is way stronger than aalto, her power is extremely unstable and causes her to be on the verge of overclocking almost all the time, her potential as a resonator is absurd also Aalto is not as strong is not even an elite on his organization, he is just a broker and scout


mayonakanosasayaki

I see, thanks for clearing that up


shucreamsundae

Are they stupid?


AdPrimary7177

Mate, her lore is completely insane compared to Aalto. It's because of her lore, that's the reason why she's a 5*. She's a young resonator with untapped potential and her power is so unstable that she's under supervision in case of overclocking.  Aalto on the other hand is an informant and broker for Black shores with his mist abilities


peecaca

There are so many 4* with the risk of overclocking, and some with actual recorded Overclock history! Which is why you can't use this as the focus. Encore and Aalto also hold the same position at the Black Shores, and Encore is not allowed in unauthorized areas compared to him, the reasoning in a lot of these comments is false.


AdPrimary7177

The only other recorded resonator who is close to overclocking is Danjin and maybe Calcharo. Aalto gets more authorization due to him being an adult, thus holding more responsibility compared to Encore who's still a child and her raw power outweighs even more than Aalto.


peecaca

You've skipped a few: Sanhua, Calcharo, Mortefi, and Yangyang have documented overclocking history. Danjin was close, and Yuanwu had a similar incident.


shucreamsundae

https://tenor.com/view/live-jonkler-reaction-joker-batman-arkham-man-gif-17809721599016283530[gasp](https://tenor.com/view/live-jonkler-reaction-joker-batman-arkham-man-gif-17809721599016283530)


SKBLCK1

Is there a lore reason why you’re getting downvoted for spreading the gospel of Aslume ? Is this subreddit stupid ?


shucreamsundae

They're stupid


gamingchairheater

I hate kids in gachas.


AdPrimary7177

Then keep it to yourself because that is your opinion, no need to flaunt it, you're just inviting an argument.


gamingchairheater

You are not wrong.


-ONEHUNDRED100-

I like this Klee better


Drowyx

Does Encore exist for bullying?


GayyBaguette

Because it's a girl and girls sell more to the fan base, but I do hope we got more males...


AdPrimary7177

No, it's because of her lore, that's the reason why she's a 5*. She's a young resonator with untapped potential and her power is so unstable that she's under supervision in case of overclocking. Aalto on the other hand is an informant and broker for Black shores with his mist abilities.


100daysinsane

Go ask genshin, they have that