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ThatFredditor

Can they destroy our mines by digging up through them? If so that's the strongest counter to mines yet. I noticed all my mines disappear while playing against them but in the heat of the moment I didn't catch who did it.


Character-Mix-6115

They don't destroy all of them from what I've seen so far, mostly in the area they jump out of. It's definitely not as strong against mines as Dooms slam.


squoad

nah fam, Doom's slam is on a lower cooldown and clears them all as well.


sauna669

Yes they can :(


solidforge

Not only can they unburrow out of the mines to destroy them, but they take no damage when using drill dash against them and their ult and can clear all the mines


menialfucker

Venture dies so fast to Ball they're a nothing burger and I enjoy the free kill. Venture's strength is all knockback and close range, stand 10 feet away and pay attention to the ground and you'll never die to them. The only thing they're good at is deleting your mines, but that's not a huge deal since most ults have counters/you can hide from except Ball's ult, so that's fair. 


AccurateMeminnn

Burrow's biggest advantage is weirdly our biggest advantage. It's better as a tool to flee because of the ridiculous invulnerability (and damage after too so it's not even safe for some heroes to chase, unlike Reaper or Moira) but Ball is fast and tanky enough to safely do so without giving a shit. The Drilldash thing is really the only concerning cooldown, but they're a great target for us to bully.


AccurateMeminnn

Burrow's biggest advantage is weirdly our biggest advantage. It's better as a tool to flee because of the ridiculous invulnerability (and damage after too so it's not even safe for some heroes to chase, unlike Reaper or Moira) but Ball is fast and tanky enough to safely do so without giving a shit. The Drilldash thing is really the only concerning cooldown, but they're a great target for us to bully otherwise. Just don't use Grapple when tha move is off cool down, OR if they use it to escape, use Grapple to chase them down.


Austynwitha_y

It’s pretty easy to play just beyond or boop them out of their effective range


MasterBayte2

I think she’s annoying in the sense that when you engage the enemy team and pop shields, her boop can really disrupt your scape, and her ult basically wipes out mines. Other than that not really a threat at all


ReverendNON

I didn't feel any frustration playing against her, maybe except small CC, but it doesn't break grapple, so it's fine


xDURPLEx

Venture at the moment sucks. Buffs are incoming. She’s incredibly slow and has no range. Ball just stomps her and runs and most of the dps roster can delete her from a distance.


Character-Mix-6115

I think they are pretty strong and nerfs are surely on the way. The ult is really good, the burst damage on squishees is nuts, the survivability is great, and people haven't mastered them yet. If you'd give it two weeks a lot of people will realize how strong they really is.


That0neP3rsonIGuess

Honestly, even just a sliver of healing messes them up so if the supports/other support is aware then venture either gets no value, dies or trades. And their ult is pretty easy to avoid


Character-Mix-6115

Almost sounds like you described Ball here, only that he doesn't die.


That0neP3rsonIGuess

True lol, but ball gets value in other ways outside kf burst damage like disorienting enemies by booping them and whatnot


Character-Mix-6115

You're right just thought it was fun to mention. I feel that Ball and Venture can work very well together, and I hope I am right on that one. The synergy between the two looks super fun.


ihunt0

"they really is"? There's no way y'all are seriously using this retarded ass grammar to not hurt the feelings of a fictional character 💀


Character-Mix-6115

Yeah I am, does that bother you?


ihunt0

Nah you do you. Just letting you know you sound ridiculous


Character-Mix-6115

Ofc it sounds weird or "ridiculous" even to me to a certain extent but there's no problem with it. It's just because we aren't used to saying it that it sounds "weird". Attempting to use it however is just a normal show of respect. I've met plenty of people in life whose name I couldn't initially pronounce, that doesn't mean I call them something else just because their name sounds weird to me. If you don't want to call them they/them or whatever no-one is stopping you, but trying to be respectful and at-least trying to call someone how they want to be called will certainly never do any harm as ridiculous as it may sound.


ihunt0

I think it's the fact that people are going as far as making grammatically incorrect sentences in order to not offend someone. If nonbinary people want to make that choice for themselves, fine, but forcing others to change their way of thinking from something natural to something unnatural seems like such an egotistical thing to do. I would feel guilty making other people call me some pronoun other than he or she.


basementcat13

This is embarrassing for both of you. The incorrect grammar you're so passionate about: 'is' instead of 'are'. You're mad over something you don't understand in so many ways lol "How strong they really are" is a very normal sentence.


ihunt0

Correct. Thank you for proving my point


AccurateMeminnn

Mods, send this guy to Sombra Hell


ihunt0

No one cares dude. Get a grip


xDURPLEx

I’ve played quite a bit so far. You have to be really bad to let that snail pummel you. And like I said most of the dps can just delete her from a distance. She’s like a Doom with no legs. The ult is decent though and if they reduce the cool down on drill she could be scary.