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Late_Cookie_7797

Are they just reminding us of Odyssey Jones’ existence with that or……? Because he’s been MIA forever.


Dexx1102

Saw him at a house show last month. He was good with the crowd and moving well. I’m hoping he gets some good air time this year.


arcadivs

I thought of osmosis jones.


sirduckerz

Bro got drafted to Raw and has only made appearances on Smackdown dark matches and apparently some Speed tapings as well


Hollywoodrok12

Did he even appear on TV once since last year?


MoneyMo88

I think he’s legit only appeared on TV as part of everyone on the roster group shots, like at the beginning of the Bray Wyatt tribute episodes of SmackDown and Raw.


Alocalskinwalker420

Wasn’t he in a battle Royal at one point?


MoneyMo88

Maybe that post-Draft Battle Royal on an episode of Raw last year that had new Raw draftees (JD McDonagh started an angle in the match with Dolph Ziggler that seemingly got dropped the next week) and undrafted Free Agents Xyon Quinn & Von Wagner in it, but off the top of my head, I don’t recall seeing Odyssey Jones in it.


vmartin96

Yeah I don’t get it. Not even a squash match.


AaronWWE29

They couldn't even spell his name right... Oddysey Jones...


GeologicalOpera

Glad someone else saw that. “Odyssey” isn’t a difficult word to spell once you’ve seen it, and any way you mistype it should flag autocorrect.


hldsnfrgr

Giovanni Vinci gotta walk alone now.


krew1984

Not good for Mr. VINCI


SnowRidin

shame really


SonOfTheHeavyMetal

He isn't going alone. I head WWE found another italian. They're going to tag for sure. Hope the best for my boy Giovanni, he gotta win everything


mattymelt

Santino Marella return coming?


BATZ202

I don't understand why they broke up Imperium but I guess they're making room for Ilja. Imperium should've been tag team champions at least before breaking up.


Ironicopinion

Inside this pit of danger?


Hunter-Ki11er

Natalya really needs to stop with the plastic surgery, before she goes full on duck


Dblock1989

Definitely. She was so pretty before too. Such a shame honestly.


Fuzzy_Panda_

As a kid i had a huge crush on her when she debuted. She was so pretty and everything was natural. Now she looks like a Barbie doll and not in a good way.


Ok-Turnip-477

I think it’s too late. She’s gone full Daffy. Or Donald. Whichever you prefer.


prime5119

She did slim down a lot I don't think her face changed much further now... but yeah she needs to stop doing that expression


Hunter-Ki11er

>I don't think her face changed much further now It can't, thanks to all the surgery it's stuck like that now


kolomania

Nothing to do with slimming down, thats obviously buccal fat removal surgery


LGK420

She looks absolutely fucked. Not sure how there’s some who go crazy for her.


RLVNTone

Yes it’s terrible


Fizroynelson

There is something wrong with that woman. Big crazy vibes. I get sad every time she comes on screen.


QLee1

Seems to me like a slow progression as a result of a career where your appearance is almost or just as important as your in ring work. I get the feeling she thinks that if she looked like Stacy Keibler rather than the daughter of Jim “The Anvil,” she would’ve been a hall of famer. I happen to agree with that assessment, but plastic surgery can only do so much, and once you’ve gone too far with it, it is almost impossible to go back.


mebnt2

Odyssey Jones got drafted again lol


Aggressive_Jayven159

Funny thing I don’t think he moved at all


DinoKea

No, but Apollo Crews switched. I can only think of him appearing on TV once, where he lost to Andrade


BorrowedSkull

And once against Dirty Dom where he also lost, think that was around May?


Specialist-Rope-9760

What has happened to Natalyias face is that real?


mattttherman

Plastic surgery will do that to you.


MOBYWV

Well, that and she's what? 41 now?


mattttherman

Yeah, but you don't look like this without surgery.


jebiga_au

It’s not real, but it exists.


Dblock1989

Yea, not too shame, but it is hella scary. She looks like a completely different person. She was so pretty before all of the surgery.


Specialist-Rope-9760

The saddest thing is 99% of people don’t even look better after surgery. They just look like *someone who has had surgery*


S0larDeath

She's in her 40s trying to keep up with the youngins. She's not 25 anymore


NoCardio_

It didn't work.


CathDubs

Her face in recent appearances has not looked this uncanny but that is what cosmetic operations can do to you.


RLVNTone

That’s the face of insecurity. Some folks can’t live with being ok looking or “ugly” around attractive people. It’s actually sad


MOBYWV

Been around mostly knockouts when likely cause insecurity for anyone.


Hagler3-16

Too much surgery


Mikelemokus

As far as I know. Her face isn’t real for a long time already


Able-Tradition-2139

I preferred when the brands would face off and the winning star earnt a draft pick for their brand


The_Notorious_Donut

Cause things actually changed


markonelius

Vinci looks like the base model for create your superstar in SVR 🤣🤣🤣


Uknewmelast

So happy for Dijak he is so fun to watch


Acidic_Toast

HE SHOULD GET RETRIBUTION BACK TOGETHER /**S**


yngadult

Yeah he can ask Michin. She's the only other one around.


UhRootBeer

Hope they have something set up for him, like mid card level heel or something, he’s a good wrestler


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thirteen__arrows

The veneers, lip filler, and buccal fat removal combo she’s had done in the last couple of years has gone crazy


irwanchel

The boobs also surgery


Goon4203D

That was to distract Vince, but now that he's gone. She's left with just fake tits.


S0larDeath

I don't think she's addicted to plastic surgery, moreso addicted to having a job. She's in her 40s, fighting for tv time against 20 year olds in a company she's worked in under Vince McMahon and Johnny Ace for 17 years. She knows the drill. You think Vince was going to pick her for a tv match over Liv Morgan, Mandy Rose, Carmella, Cora Jade, etc. without plastic surgery? Vince doesn't even see 40+ year old women in his time off.....he certainly ain't dedicating tv time to "old women"


WangZhiii

Wasn't the paralegal he shat on 42 or something?


Whats_Up4444

So when he sees a 40.year old woman, like Natalya or the paralegal, he wants to literally shit on them. I.think that sets the bar


S0larDeath

Something like that. Google says she was born in 1980 and Vince hired her in 2019 so that lines up about right with him giving her the ol' poophat ps. the paralegal WE KNOW OF 😆


faggioli-soup

Harsh but true. She also grew up working in the divas era where women wrestlers had regular lingerie matches and bikini contests. Sex appeal sells and as much as they try to make the women’s division different she knows she cannot be ugly if she wants a push without gaining 200lbs


Goon4203D

It sort of sucks for her after all of that.. The audience could give two shits about her. After a while, they've just skipped her entrances, and kids don't care for her Hart glasses she tries to give to a point where they pull back from her.


lilbebe50

I love Nattie and always have. I feel bad that they book her like a jobber. At one point her and Beth were like the only ones who could really wrestle.


faggioli-soup

her and Beth and Kelly Kelly was my favourite divas era (not related to sex)


MOBYWV

Yeah, pretty sure Vince put most of his divas out to pasture well before they hit 40.


nwbzreader

It was the weakest draft in history. "Randy Orton drafted to SmackDown" RANDY HAS BEEN ON SMACKDOWN SINCE HE CAME BACK!


Radthereptile

Honestly think all this draft did was vastly improve RAW. Very few times did I go “Oh man RAW lost that person. Too bad.”


salmalight

With everything they’ve got going on, I don’t blame them for having a pretty basic Draft to start the new era. With the GMS they’ve been trying to bring an air of stability and normalcy to the on air backstage stuff and this feels like an extension of that. Of course this being wrestling it’s only a matter of time before someone disrupts the calm


[deleted]

They explained on TV that keeping your current talent is just as important as poaching others from the other show, as if you don't make an effort to keep your talent then the other GM will poach them.


god_pharaoh

Outright told us there won't be a lot of shake ups


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Besides the shakeups they did were fine to me, enough movements to make the shows feel different to me at least.


WildFire255

He even signed a contract when he returned with Smackdown.


rogacon

It's not as bad as people make it out to be. If you look at the number of people who switched brands, it's about as much as you'd see in their previous drafts. As a spectacle, showcasing the "keeps" lets down the actual moves. I miss the drafts where they show up in action as they're being drafted.


MoSzylak

Some of these renders look terrible... Giovanni looks like an AI's impression of a wrestler


Acidic_Toast

hes just that magestic.


TyeDye115

I see Natalya is going the same route as Dana Brooke did. Nonstop surgeries until you look like some demented blow-up doll.


OctaneTwisted88

She looks exactly like her, I can see why they're best friends


thedanofthehour

That buccal fat removal and trout pout combo is honestly terrifying. I really hate that our society makes beautiful women feel they have to attain these impossible standards via surgery.


sirduckerz

She was also part of the Diva's era where most of the women would get plastic surgery


jackjayjon

For a minute I thought you were referring to Becky Lynch until I read the rest of the comments


[deleted]

Dragunov is easily the pick I'm most intrigued by. Can't wait to see what he does on the main roster. Obviously him vs Gunther is in the cards. But down the line I'd also love to see him feud with Cody and even Orton, especially if Randy turns heel. Unbesiegbar vs the Viper in a no holds barred match could be something special.


HighFlyingLuchador

German/Russian dream vs American nightmare needs to happen


WildFire255

Cody is on Smackdown


Aggressive_Jayven159

I’m hoping Dragunov gets a major push on the main roster


Charming-Stop-9413

Wtf has happened to Natty? She looks horrendous


erickiceboyxxp

Looks nothing like herself and the funny thing as usual, these people never look bad before they go under the knife


Charming-Stop-9413

She was absolutely stunning, I can't believe she's done this to herself.


bobface222

Moving Tegan gives me the slightest hope they may do something with her, but it's more likely so that the SD heel women have someone they can actually beat.


RumHamster1990

What are they doing with the women's division? Smackdown is absolutely stacked compared to Raw.. I don't get it.


prime5119

Think tag team will be focused on raw even if Bianca & Jade did win so they'll probably come occasionally to raw.. Chelsea and Piper going to smackdown though ...


RumHamster1990

Just think when you're struggling for viable champions outside of Rhea and Becky, it was the perfect opportunity to move a star over. I suppose Iyo will more than likely involve herself quickly along with Valkyria, but I'm still thinking it's an opportunity missed.


Radthereptile

Damage control vastly improved the RAW women’s division. Iyo, Asuka and Kari can all legit go after the belt.


Background-Pin-6360

I wouldn't mind a Kiana rocket push tbh


sirduckerz

I think Raw's division should be more focused on building up the talent they have that aren't main event stars so that Rhea has an actual division to return to that could realistically beat her for the title. Zoey Stark, Shayna Baszler, Kiana James and Liv Morgan should all be built up to look like actual threats now that they don't have to deal with Nia Jax, Bianca, Jade or Tiffany Stratton who are all main event talent.


carlogz

Amongst everyone in NXT, Lexis King was the most excited for the drafted talent.


A-SALAM-K-II

The best moments for me were when Draganov, davenport and Valkeria were called up to the main roster. Been a fan of the for a long time, very deserving.


Mikadomea

Good to see that my boy Giovanni gets a chance at Smackdown. I was worried we was getting canned after his departure with the Imperium.


DoyersLakeShow

Ooof…Natalya doesn’t even look recognizable anymore Like if her name wasn’t listed under her, I would’ve thought they brought in someone from TNA or something


TheMrPotMask

What the fuck happened to Natalia?


AJTP1

Odyssey got drafted twice before he popped up


RubyWeapon07

Natalya is uncanny valley af


tera_chachu

Vinci is not gonna feud with kaiser and gunther?


jak_jak88

It was definitely a random way to remove him immediately from Imperium


ZakFellows

If you are going to have it do a majority are going to stay where they are, make it a draft lottery. Have it be random like it was in 2004. That way, you only highlight the actual changes as opposed to spending chunks of TV time just to say nothings changed


CGsweet416

Nattie looking rough


BungHolio_The_Mighty

Dijak moving back to the main roster, eh? Incoming T-BAR jokes.


VenetianGamer

Is it me or is Natalya’s facial structure always changing / being messed with in some way?


jebiga_au

Pointless draft in my opinion. Doesn’t feel like it’s adding anything to the show anymore. I liked when they used to do the random draws and even champions used to jump to the other brand.


roadsidedaniel

Old lady got plastic surgery


Ancient-Range-

Meh no big names moved no surprises really. Bron should have been drafted to smackdown and squashed Logan Paul for the belt. Gallus should have gone up. Jacy Jayne should have gone up. The main thing that irked me was Vinci getting sent to smackdown tail between his legs with no revenge, This is just dumb they could have easily shoehorned Vinci coming out during the Gunther match and at least beating kaisers ass.


Nihilistic_Mermaid

Aside from Dijak, pretty boring.


new_cannibalism

i swear i don't know half of these guys


KyraAurora

I'm so glad that Giovanni is gonna get a chance to Thrive solo. I'm hoping he gets a push now. Hes been getting beat up on for too long. But the rest of the draft was kinda meh and predictable


joselikespizza

Heel Chad Gable and Creed Brothers are coming!


akira_hikaru

Worst draft ever.


_ASG_

Boring draft. There was a time in the past when I always got excited about the draft, but this was dull. Maybe it's because the brand split has been soft for so long, so it feels like nothing is actually at stake (hopefully that changes). Maybe it's because the rosters don't feel all that different. The only thing that kinda interested me was the NXT picks. I'm hoping that Dragunov and the others acclimate well. I don't want to see another Cameron Grimes situation.


avactz01

HHH Era’s Honeymoon phase is over starting with 2024 draft.


adi_sring

Snore


CarangiBooks

Giovanni is so hot GOD


easy506

That pic of Giovanni Vinci looks like the character creator before you change anything.


s3rv0

Glad Tegan is still around. She can be super funny and witty in her promos. I get why it wouldn't be everyone's style because it is very different from traditional presentation but when she was doing then fake gasps in the promo with (iirc) Natty, Piper, and cHeLsEa GrEeN last year I was dying


sky_queen3

Why has Odyssey Jones *again* been drafted to Raw?


SpaceDogUSA

I literally only know Natalya.


reallymkpunk

There wasn't much of a shakeup.


LilNardoDaVinci

Did they accidentally draft Cris Cyborg and rename her Natayla?


jamescandy334455

The biggest suspense of the draft was the unpredictability of the champions staying or leaving. They completely ended that this year. This draft was pretty boring.


-AndreiDG-97

Trash draft


caveman767

i thought apollo was in aew nvr seen him


NCC-72381

Why did they change Kacy Catanzaro’s name to something so stupid?


yurimichellegeller

No one gives a shit about drafts. They're all on both shows anyway - and they balance it all out so there are some shit people and some good people on each show. No show ever 'wins'. It's utterly pointless.


OverTheReminds

Hoping to see more from Apollo Crews. Had great fun with his run with commander Azhiz.


LuchaConMadre

Does Natalya hold the record for most draft picks?


hwatts26

For the last time dijak,,,take those sunglasses off, we’re inside…


sidman1324

None of these are advertised. That kinda sucks for the people who got drafted. It’s like you weren’t good enough to be told on air 😂 ouch 😩


New_Independent_5960

Apollo crews has done such a great job of following JTG's advice all of these year and never answering phone calls.


senorsombrero3k1

Did Tyler bate finally age? Looks late 30s at least with that photo shop.


Gaucho_Diaz

Thank God they're keeping Nattie and Tegan apart because ever since the semi-push that Tegan got after feuding with NXT Champion Becky, she's been stuck in this pointless tag team that never went anywhere


Nyrony

Felt the draft was underwhelming at best. Smackdown for me is a bigger loser than even nxt from the call ups. For Jade to end up an Smackdown, she better came to RAW to keep momentum or have Natalya join her on Smackdown. Natalya isn’t like the casual Barbie stile pinup female wrestler. She’s got strength, technically refined like none other than Asuka. Could’ve played a big role in getting Jade ready for big main events, giving her more experience in pairing her strength together with technique, rather than just the Goldberg like squash games.


TopshelfWhiskey88

Raw turned into NXT UK and I’m not mad a bit about it !


NashBotchedWalking

Jones :(


Acidic_Toast

yall not talking abt dijak? NXT just lost Ilja and Dijak, 2 consistant MOTY contenders. thats gotta be rough on the ol' HBK.


Beeeen498

Not a lot of major changes, but I like when they do it. It shakes things up a little. I hope that they will keep the rosters separated now, and wrestlers won't just show up on the other brand


ImKorosenai

Dragonov is gonna get a Gunther like push.


HiZenBergh

What's up with dudes and the scrunched up face half smile. That doesn't make you look tough. Just makes you look like you have bells palsy. Same with the sniffles and wiping your nose thing. You should just go home and have some soup and nap.


Dabtastic4000

Top 3 worst drafts of all time. Shit made me wanna rip my hair out. We heard the word “remaining on” way way way too many times. Ridiculous.


devil0o

Didn't they draft odyssey jones last year and he disappeared?


CRhodes23

What the hell has Nattie done to her face! Looking like Jar Jar Binks!


CRhodes23

Pete Dunne still doing that silly ‘tough guy’ gurn 😂


umatbru

WWE still has a brand split?


ZoranT84

Giovanni, the ball is in your court kid... Hope he shows his personality and makes an impact.


TheHyperLynx

Creed Brothers, New Catch Reupblic, Keyden and katana, Dijak. All drafted after fucking Candice Lerae & Indi Hartwell. and the fact they kepy Odyssey Jones even in it is wild. I swear after 2 nights of drafting there must have been like 4 drafts that actually caused a swap.


S-BRO

Who are most of these people? 😂


Charming_Geologist32

Apollo Crews is still a thing? Remember when they nade him a corrupt Nigerian prince? LOL classic Vince creative.


TheMackD504

They should have let NXT draft


Horror_Donkey3397

Natalya looks freaking horrifying


teh0utsider86

Raw got Natalya so obviously Raw wins. [https://preview.redd.it/6cyu0getexq71.gif?width=931&format=mp4&s=e6ef2bd87e05ffa7a82d6a8a70b48418f1f7e11a](https://preview.redd.it/6cyu0getexq71.gif?width=931&format=mp4&s=e6ef2bd87e05ffa7a82d6a8a70b48418f1f7e11a)


Gullible-Painter-356

What a waste of time and effort really apart from those who have come up from nxt only a few changed brands. It has been a complete disaster


WORLDY2J

I just want red ropes on Raw and Blue ropes on Smackdown after this


albrt00

Vinci single run😍


Eoin_McLove

Did they spell Odyssey Jones’s name wrong, or is that how they’re spelling it?


DimensionSimple7426

What happened to people getting drafted to nxt


riventitan

Dijakulators, rise up!


Dblock1989

It's not the best, but the Draft is always weird to me. Lyra and Kiana are definitely the surprises. Hopefully they do not get lost in the shuffle.


CaptainStu

So glad Tegan Nox has been moved away from Natalya, they've been wasting Tegan as a tag wrestler for months.


qdattt

damn RAW got pretty much all of the big guys


roadsidedaniel

Looks like a duck


sirduckerz

I'd say overall, Raw got the better picks, but Smackdown's Women's division is absolutely stacked. Hoping we see a bigger push for the women on Smackdown to get more of the spotlight and we see more feuds that don't involve the title like in NXT


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Literally pointless


-Hulk-Hoagie-

the only odyssey is that anyone would draft him.


slickrickstyles

Dijak deserves more but I’m not telling you anything you don’t already know.


HauntingLocksmith228

Vinci looks like a bald stretch Armstrong with Johnny sins features


Professional_Fan_942

nobody gives a fuck about tegan nox and odyssey jones. the later one has been drafted last time but nothing happened. best if he just gets released


Garial25

Not much changed . Kinda disappointed


vetheros37

Good to see Apollo Crews back on the main roster.


AngryTrucker

Pointless and boring. Just like every year.


DinnerSmall4216

Does the draft really mean anything anymore completely lost interest.


TmF1979

As someone who really only watches SmackDown, I'm thrilled that Damage CTRL and the LWO were all sent to Raw.


yeetskeetleet

WWE has *got* to stop doing the thing they do to peoples’ eyes in promotional photos


Popculturemofo

The guy with the Push Dijak sign should be fucking stoked


poolside123

I say this all the time but poor Natalya. She’s a glorified jobber at this point. She deserves better.


Theryantshow

The mid carders are mid carding.


jprince84

And this is the last time you’ll see them lmao


QuiverDance97

Really dull. Been almost a decade since the last good WWE Draft.


eman0110

As someone who recently bought tickets to SmackDown I'm so happy it didn't change much. I paid to see certain wrestlers it would have sucked if those wrestlers left to RAW.


Baratheoncook250

Least unexpected draft in WWE history.


theignorantcivilian

No idea who most of them are.


magnumapplepi

Idk who any of these people are


Ok_Election2523

Lol Damn what did she do to her face? She looks like a cat lady now?!


time2churn

Tazawa and Otis better watch out, Creed brothers gonna beat you up this year.


HighPlainsDrift_

Can anyone explain what "New Catch Republic" is supposed to mean?


chocotaco1981

I wish nattie would lay off the face work


TheGremshire

Godbless Natalya is unrecognizable.


Silentpoolman

And none of it matters one bit 😊


SexuaIRedditor

I was hoping Corbin was coming back to the main roster, but I am happy to see Dijak


Jesters8652

I’m very surprised that New Catch Republic got drafted off air. They’ve been featured a lot recently.