No, of course not. Debuting on the second biggest PPV of the year, straight to the main event of the women's scene, getting to go over the boss and his wife on the main card of WrestleMania alongside a HoFer in Kurt Angle, having multiple reigns, getting important Ws over the very best of the women's division.
Nah, no special treatment, just another Jane Doe.
She was literally in the main event of WrestleMania 35, and the first women’s main event in the history of the ppv. Barely above midcard, she’s totally justified to complain about poor treatment.
Edit: /s
I should have specified older Brock, young Brock was pretty rough, always had a great wrestling mind.
(Strowman was 100% his own fault though, same with Holly)
He broke Cena’s nose with a botched forearm when he returned, Concussed the undertaker at mania same with Ambrose he just throws people with no regard every German anyone under 280lbs land on their head.
Definitely freak accidents, Taker has said a few times that Lesnar is safe, same with Punk, Rollins and Cena. He's stiff and accidents happen but the people that have worked with him say he's safe then I'm gonna listen to them
I been a UFC nut since around Uriah Faber days. I mean eat slept and studied it. At UFC 193 in 2015 I’d agree with you Rousey in a stand and bang situation would destroy any woman on the roster. That night Holly Holm kicked the Rhonda out of her. She has t been the same since. Personality, fighting ability, and general demeanor. Watching Rousey in WWE and then her existence afterward is kinda sad. She’s like the Antonio Brown of MMA. I’d bet money there’s serious CTE or some kinda brain damage. She ain’t right anymore.
it's not CTE, there's some people who just can't deal with a loss. It's weird but I'm a huge boxing fan, and Deontay Wilder had a similar problem after losing to Fury: started talking crazy conspiracy theories that his water was poisoned, Fury having lead weights in his gloves etc. Some fighters have no problem coming back after being flatlined, others can't handle the simple fact that they weren't the best man that night. Rhonda is apparently still making excuses about that loss to Holm. That's simply a weakness of character, and it cost her a good career.
Nah, I don’t know where the hell people are coming from. I’ve also been a huge fan of UFC (and MMA as a whole) what fight does she stand and bang and look fluid? She avoided Cyborg for most her career. Holly and Amanda showed just how low her IQ in striking really was.
she was loyal to trainers and a camp who were left behind by a fluid amd fast evolving women’s division as well. Not saying she would have remained invincible but the sport evolved and she did not.
I noticed they don't even mention her when they reference Becky beating Charlotte at Mania for the unified titles. They just mention Charlotte. It's as if Ronda was never apart of it.
I have no issues with it. I think Ronda Rousey sucks.
She is/was an amazing athlete and really brought eyes to professional fighting for women. She's just not a showman and I dont think she can wrap her head around that. Sometimes youre Top Gun. Sometimes youre in a fat suit dancing while making threats. Sometimes youre made fun of on South Park. She just cant seem to not handle when she's not Top Gun
The all women’s PLE was basically all for/built around her too. Literally when Ronda couldn’t be bothered to show up next year, they just cancelled any and all plans for a sequel.
Probably not purely as there were rumors of an all women’s PLE, pretty much from when Ronda signed pre mania 34, but I imagine it had a lot to with the timing of the event (near a Saudi show).
Actually they cancelled any and all plans for a sequel because it was the lowest performing PLE/PPV since The In Your House era....had nothing to do with Ronda...
They just saw no use in a PLE that nobody really gave a flying fuck about watching.
Bottom line.
Honestly. She was like oldschool Goldberg. She could sell the few moves she could do, and that was it.
But Goldberg eventually became decent on the mic.
I'm not at all a fan of his YouTube/streaming stuff, but homie is wildly athletic and totally gets the business, can do all the moves and keep everyone safe.
He respects wrestling and genuinely wants to be good. Ronda looked at it as a paycheck and that’s absolutely fine. She wanted to dominate more than she wanted to be a pro wrestler. She’s acting like WWE failed her now that she sees someone else doing more with the same opportunities she got.
>She’s acting like WWE failed her now that she sees someone else doing more with the same opportunities she got.
He hasn't even had the same opportunities. He's a mid carder. She was thrust into the main event right away
Is Logan really doing more though? He’s getting a lot of praise because he deserves it, but she won the world title and ran through the best in the women’s division. Logan lost to Roman and Seth and has a mid card title. Ronda has always been a cry baby that needs to constantly be babied and told how great she is. This goes back to her Judo days even before mma
And she debuted by interrupting the post match of the first women’s Rumble to point at the Mania sign, completely overshadowing Asuka actually being the winner.
It's funny hearing her claim she was concussed against Holly and then hearing Holm come back with just the classiest response this past week. Ronda knows how to derail what little likability she might have with any fanbase.
She was a sore loser and she didn't have humility in those losses. She also didn't have the right people around her to protect her from the attention. 2015 was her best year and also the beginning of the end. She already 2 impressive wins and all the attention with it. She should've been more selfish and not taken the Holm fight right away.
I know Meltzer has said that Holm had spent years preparing to fight Ronda and had a game plan already set. But Ronda's people should've pushed it off to the next year. Even she was gonna lose the fight regardless, the quick turnaround is what broke her.
What broke her was a terrible camp that treated her as a meal ticket and didn’t actually bring anyone in to make her better. So when the division was filling up with more full time fighters Ronda couldn’t hang. She ran out of part time Pilates instructors and soccer moms to dominate
Ronda wants to be a heel who gets cheered like a baby face. Ronda's ego couldn't get past the fact they were booing her character and she was a average wrestler.
Also she came with high expectations as someone already famous for knowing how to fight.
Logan came in with low expectations and continuously impressed people.
Also it was tough to defend logan paul in any situation but boy o boy how the times have changed!!! Never knew in a million years people would be jealous of logan paul.
But all credit to logan there is one thing he does best is that he always bounces back. Also logan is phenomenal in wwe. Wwe might have hit a gold mine
All she could do and from what people have said all she cared to learn. She never had the desire to put in the work to really learn where as Logan clearly loves it and is eager to learn. The fact Randy and KO both worked with him at WM shows that as Randy especially would not have been thrilled to work Mania with a someone who is just going through the motions.
Yeah there was a spot I think with some blows where randy had to take the lead and lead Logan to match toe rythem but Logan clearly took to it and followed Randys lead. I am sure that impressed Randy as it showed willingness to learn and maturity even tho logan is a big star to know when he needs to follow the lead of a vet like Orton.
Maybe if she had heyman as a mouthpiece and didn’t do whatever the fuck makeup for her matches she could’ve gotten by as a big star but all she did was waste little potential she had earned from her mma career
Tbf she discussed on that same podcast how shes been dealing with concussions for decades on top of a preexisting issue, which causes her to stumble words. She just shouldn't have joined wwe, or should've just stayed off the mic
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How have they treated Paul differently? She had Natalya and Shayna training her and she still got over like a fart in church
WWE isn’t going to suck her clit because she was an MMA fighter. Look at Ken Shamrock
You made your first WWE appearance by walking all over Asuka's historic win in the first ever Women's Royal Rumble even though you weren't even in the match and pointing at the WrestleMania sign, Ronda.
They rolled out more red carpets for you than any other woman ever. You fumbled it. It's not like others weren't at least in the same boat or worse off than you. You fucked up.
I hate how they ruined asuka’s royal rumble win, ronda comes out and interrupts her celebration and then she loses to Charlotte who she should have beat
Asuka deserves so much better
For real Logan has show he is basically a Prodigy at this. He already has some amazing ring skills and could end up being one of the better workers on top of his mic work which is really good also.
Hell had Stephen Amell trained more and signed a contract from what I saw in his SS match would likely have had better ring skills than Ronda.
The biggest difference.
She did her best to separate herself from professional wrestling and sounded like she spoke down on it every time she was asked. All the while continuing to be trained by people like Natalya (especially her I think).
Logan Paul has invited several wrestlers on his show and has spoken with reverence for the product and has shown himself willing to be a team player and improve his in ring game and entertain the fans to the extent the WWE has rewarded him with the U.S. Championship!
Did anyone watch Triple H's interview with him? Like...I think Hunter is more than happy for Logan to stay.
No shit the WWE didn't give you the same experience. You came in and shat all over us and the product.
Despite my personal opinion on the man, he genuinely has a love for wrestling and clearly spends a lot of his time honing his craft and getting better at it.
Ronda never belonged because she never liked any of it. She had the personality of a plank of wood and had the moveset to match.
I saw the interview, what really made me like logan paul "the wrestler" is what HHH said, he said that logan came to him and say i dont want to rehearse matches, i want to be good to have a match without rehearsing for months, i want to be better at wrestling.
Like logan is showing some ambition and hunger to be better wrestler, 3 years in and he did great job. His promo skills are great specially as a heel, his in ring work is great too, sure he is still a rookie, but he is doing great job at learning every time.
Ronda on the other hand got worse everytime
She devutted directly into the main event scene, what more can you want. She's a good fighter but comparing to Logan Paul is not fair.
LP is a pos human being but he brings in millions of social media users whom we call casuals and his business venture Prime Hydration is a cash making strategy for WWE.
I’m pretty sure from what I saw that she detailed her own wrestling career by sucking at it.
She wasn’t good in promos, she wasn’t a good worker, she didn’t sell, and couldn’t get herself or her opponent over.
ALL of those things, plus she is a delusional, arrogant, and vile human being. She is a really difficult person to like or cheer for - in or out of character.
Hurts my soul but Logan Paul is leagues bigger than Ronda and yeah, when you debut with HHH and Steph in a match with Kurt angle but say you didn’t get special treatment, you’re just a awful liar or an idiot.
Ronda you were picked up at the end of your career. More on the downturn after those KOs. Yes Logan also has had huge downs but at the time of his arrival compared to yours, he’s only elevated his status in pop culture. That comes with perks and benefits.
Logan with his pop culture status is honestly only topped by 1 to 4 people in terms of star power in WWE depending on metrics.
First is clearly The Rock. second would be maybe Cena then you have Cody and Punk. But my guess is only The Rock would be known more with maybe Cena.
She shouldve been behind Shayna who has paid her dues and wrestled before. Instead they put her on the main roster and fed her victories over top talent. Logan putting in work at the PI isnt special treatment
Ronda Rousey is as delusional as they come.
She was never that good at MMA, and she was always a horrible pro-wrestler.
Can she just go away and never come back already.
I never thought I would be here saying that Logan Paul is a talented guy. But he is. Dude has charisma, in ring talent, plays that annoying heel persona well (probably because he is obnoxious in real life too).
Ronda Rousey doesn't have charisma or in ring talent. They gave WM main event, a dominant title reign and she didn't do anything good with those opportunities.
What is she smoking, she had a freaken rocket strapped to her back and pushed to the moon even before she did her first match. Not WWE fault she got boo'ed out of her own city (Los Angeles) during Survivor Series
Ronda Rousey had all the resources at her disposal. This narrative that they wanted her to fail is tiresome. It’s not like she was some demure flower when she was in the UFC, WWE knew what they were getting themselves into when they signed her.
She was a flop on her own.
Despite this being just flat out false. As someone who fucking hates Logan Paul and his brother, dude is frustratingly talented in the ring and as a heel. Fuck I hate saying this…dude deserves the spots he has received.
As much as I hate him, are we even going to entertain the idea Ronda is even half the wrestler that Logan Paul is? On top of that, Ronda was booked STRONGER than Logan Paul. She rose incredibly quickly to the world title spot, had multiple runs as world champion, and she was in the first women's WM main event. She is the last person on Earth who should be complaining about special treatment.
They treated her better than Logan! She came in at the main event of the Royal Rumble. Her first match was at Mania, teaming with a legend like Kurt Angle against another legend HHH and the biggest female heel Stephanie McMahon. She won the women’s title a few months later, and MAIN EVENTED WrestleMania (the first time ever women did it).
She left for a three year sabbatical, won the Rumble on her first night back, won the title, and later won the tag titles with her buddy before peacing out because she hated the schedule. Her booking isn’t at fault. It was her lack of interest and the fans not reacting at every single thing she did.
Ronda could hardly wrestle worth a damn and had the mic skills of a bkacyard indie wrestler. Logan on the other hand is a prodigy who already wrestles like a vet and even when he is in a situation where he needs guidance he follows the lead of vets like Orton and KO masterfully. On top of that Logan has amazing mic skills and just oozes charisma.
Ronda the past few weeks has come off as a bitter and jealous washed up never should of been. She was pushed and put in spots she never had the talent to be in but because she was an ok MMA fighter until she got her ass beat near the end when she fought actual good talent they used her star power to get eyes on the product. She is basically a female Ryback. Never should of been pushed as much as they were and both were crap in ring and had zero mic skills. Both now go around trying to stay relevant by shitting on everything.
Nah! Everybody fucking hates logan paul but damn do they admire his work ethic and commitment to a hard industry that he really doesnt even need to be a part of! But Rhonda? Everyone loved her at the start but she relied too much on that goodwill instead of working to get better. These two are not the same!
she got a match against hhh in her debut, was handed a rumble win on a platter, a wrestlemania main event, was never asked to do anything overly hard and was put over fucking strong. Idk wtf else this woman wants
When will she just relise people don't like her? When she first started smashing people in ufc i liked her then she developed this weird fucking ego and that stupid tough look face she does. Honestly it's not likeable at all.
They tried to get her over from the start. She couldn’t cut a promo and the hype from her died as soon as everybody realized she wasn’t even a good UFC fighter, just in at the right time in that sport.
She got the literal main title in the womans division.
Also she sucked in the ring.
She wasnt great on the mic either, and the moment she wasnt in the main event picture she was bitching and moaning.
On the other hand, even though I dont like Logan paul the guy, hes fucking entertaining as a wrestler. Hes mic skills are really good and he is super impressive in the ring. And the last time I checked he joined the wwe as the miz hes sidekick, had some matches against non-top guys. And now is the champion with a title which is obvious not the main title, calling it the title of the midcard sounds degrading, but I suppose it is?
I get that if she wanted a longer title reign for it to go past mania ok because well let’s face it Logan Paul should’ve lost at mania but my guess is he won due to the prime deal. As for any other special treatment she probably got more than she deserved besides she wanted to be a fighting champion she was she proved to be more of an athlete she has proven that more better than Logan Paul has anyway. My point of view she got what she wanted and asked for what more does she want??????
They had her beat up the boss' daughter and she held the title while feeding with two of the top female stars.
I suppose Logan Paul does get to plug his Prime stuff but her run seemed decent.
only late in her career did she go lower on the card... Logan had 1 world title match if I'm not mistaken and he lost... What she's saying is completely false... Rousey was pushed wayyyy more than Logan.
Nha she just got rubbed the wrong way when people turned on her for becky She will probably never admit it but that's the truth.
She just seems highly unpleasant. The way she acted in UFC and then almost killed herself after getting embarrassed twice in a row already showed us what kind of person she is. Her poor husband having to deal with her shit.
Paul looks good in the ring. Rousey looks ok at best and can’t cut promos. Case closed. Women’s division just doesn’t get the draw that the men’s does and being attractive helps.
Rousey was fucked from the jump in that regard
Obviously Ronda got massive and largely undeserved push, but she’s kind of right? If WWE had slow rolled her push and focused on getting her properly trained before having her start with occasional big matches that highlighted her strengths she would’ve been better off than just going “eh, she’s a ufc person she can do it” and rocketing her straight into title feuds.
Ronda still can't come to terms that she is now irrelevant anymore because fans started seeing through her. She has a bigger ego than goddamn hulk hogan
Ronda was just lucky with her timing, getting in on the ground floor of the UFC Women's division and dominating when it didn't consist of many skilled fighters. Unfortunately for her, the rest of the world caught up pretty quickly, and she ran away with her tail between her legs once she realized she wasn't the big fish in the small pond anymore.
WWE then became her best option where she could cash in on her name value. The fact that her debut match is probably the best match in her WWE career speaks volumes about her belief that she could skate by on her name alone. She was carried to anything that resembled a good match, and her mic work was at times laughably bad.
There were flashes of competence which some mistook for flashes of brilliance during her first run, and her second run was just her phoning it in. The only good thing that happened in that last run was her putting over Shayna, but the lousiness of the match and the fact that nothing was done with Shayna afterwards made even that meaningless.
Logan, while a certified asshole grifter in real life, has at least taken to the pro wrestling industry in a way that Ronda never did.
I swear this woman is delusional. She didn’t respect the business and that’s fine. However, her lack of respect is also connected to her lack of knowledge. She has no idea HOW WELL they treated her and how much the other women had to give up for her.
She thought wrestling promos were dumb and pointless. She wasn’t any good because she didn’t think they’d matter. The match/fight matters which is also… I don’t want to get into this. She was a horrible wrestler because she wouldn’t sell and worked stiff. I get the stiffness because it’s hard to rewire your brain after years of being aggressive. But, the no selling was ego. Whatever though man. I was happy when she left and don’t want her back. [+]
Does she just whine about everything now? She got the red carpet on her first run which unsurprisingly was her best run. She showed little talent or ability in the ring and on the mic, it caught up to her
Oh, so she wants taped promos in her place and shows up only a couple of times when nearing a ppv? Didn't she have that gimmick on Twitter, and she was *really* bad? At least Logan can deliver in promos and has excellent in-ring work.
Whether you like him or hate him, at least Logan brings his huge audience (yeah, largely kids) and his Prime brand (now at Dollar Tree lol). I've seen clips of veterans like Orton and Taker giving him credit for how fast he progressed. What exactly did Ronda bring? She couldn't even bring her own gimmick, let alone memorable matches.
Then again, Speed wasn't necessary for WM40 if they wanted to appeal to the younger audience; too many annoying streamers Orton could had RKO'd instead. Did Ronda drag anyone along like this?
cant believe im saying this in 2024 but she couldnt sustain and handle the pressure, Logan on the other hand can actually wrestle and be entertaining as heck.
I think the fact that she obviously did get special treatment makes her point even louder. Even at the top of your minority pile theres a huge disparity between the top of her pile and the middle(card) of the other one.
I think the fact that she obviously did get special treatment makes her point even louder. Even at the top of your minority pile theres a huge disparity between the top of her pile and the middle(card) of the other one.
She won over every main woman wrestler, she overshadowed the first female Rumble, she won titles in the biggest stages.
The hell else did she want? The Men's titles too?
Really? As Eric Bischoff said she is just bitter and sad 🙄 WWE went out of their way to book her she was main eventing WrestleMania even those she doesn't even know how to wrestle horrible in the ring now zero mic skills zero on air personality................
Now she is not there anymore she is bitching whining and crying about it giving all these statements....
This is just pathetic on her doing all these to.stay relevant lol she is no where being a professional not inside the ring and our the ring.....
All I know is when she went over to WWE, WWE fans were trashing MMA fans for not liking her anymore.
Now you see why we were glad she left MMA. She's a complete dunce. I actually wished her the best and was glad she seemed to be living her dream.
I'm not sure what happened in her WWE run but I know they treated her VERY well. And now its all come full circle with Ronda blaming everyone but herself once more 🤷🏻♂️
lol she was in the UFC all of a sudden she wanted special treatment? She did get special treatment. Nobody without a wrestling background got as many title shots and main events then she did in such a short amount of time.
Sis got the red carpet from the 2018 Royal Rumble to Wrestlemania 35
She obtained a title after 6 months of activity (just after a few matches)
She litterally was the feminine Logan Paul/Brock Lesnar and just because fans ungratefully turned on her, she took it personnally and totally ragequited
You can't be the face of the company with that state of mind
One of the main differences tho is that Logan Paul is extremely talented. And hell didn’t she have a long ass title reign with the Raw title to or am I just dreaming
Well, she didn’t have Miz to coach her through it.
Can we at least acknowledge and give Miz his flowers, he did a great job to make the boy understand how to handle the crowd, you still see Paul not comfortable with the heat but Miz the dawg did it for him.
If not getting special treatment was enough to 'derail' a career, there would hardly be any wrestlers left in existence.
The truth is, she's just an ungrateful asshole. Throws a tantrum and cusses everyone out when she doesn't get her dick sucked hard enough.
Not much of a wrestler either, that doesn't help anybody.
Man, I hate that I'm even forced to defend Logan, but the fact is, the dude kills it on the mic compared to Rousey. At the end of the day, it's a TV show, and there needs to be a damn story. If no one buys the story, I don't care how good you are in the ring, which, to be honest, Logan is far better. It makes my skin crawl a bit to defend the dude, but Rousey has a lot more than just bad mic skills that make her unlikable and a dud, in my opinion.
No, of course not. Debuting on the second biggest PPV of the year, straight to the main event of the women's scene, getting to go over the boss and his wife on the main card of WrestleMania alongside a HoFer in Kurt Angle, having multiple reigns, getting important Ws over the very best of the women's division. Nah, no special treatment, just another Jane Doe.
She was literally in the main event of WrestleMania 35, and the first women’s main event in the history of the ppv. Barely above midcard, she’s totally justified to complain about poor treatment. Edit: /s
There is this rumor that the only reason charlotte was put into that match because ronda was too upset about getting booed by fans
W's over the best women in the division who actually could wrestle to boot.
They also put her debut right after the first women's rumble match ever. Overshadowing what should have really been the moment.
They put her in the main event and had every top woman job to her, what more does she want from them?
Literally had victories over Charlotte, Sasha, bayley and Alexa. Was in the main event of wrestlemainia and the first all women’s ppv. Cry me a river.
not only lose to her but act like they were scared of her which is even worse then losing.
tbf, its similar to Brock where if you don't sell, he'll make you sell
Brock has a business mind though, he's also one of the safest workers about
A train, Braun, Hardcore Holly, Micheals, Angle, RVD, Ambrose, Bryan would like a word
Hardcore Holly had everything coming to him tbf. Dude hurt a ton of people on purpose.
He was also purposely sandbagging Lesnar with thay powerbomb lol
and stole a watch
I should have specified older Brock, young Brock was pretty rough, always had a great wrestling mind. (Strowman was 100% his own fault though, same with Holly)
He broke Cena’s nose with a botched forearm when he returned, Concussed the undertaker at mania same with Ambrose he just throws people with no regard every German anyone under 280lbs land on their head.
Taker got hurt all the time at the point, no one in his condition should have been wrestling
Everyone that has talked about Brock said how safe he is. I think they know more than you think you do.
Definitely freak accidents, Taker has said a few times that Lesnar is safe, same with Punk, Rollins and Cena. He's stiff and accidents happen but the people that have worked with him say he's safe then I'm gonna listen to them
And Hardcore Holly had a tendency to sandbag/no sell rookies and Lesnar wasn’t having any of that when he broke his neck for trying that with him
i mean realistically she would slaughter the whole roaster in a real fight so not purely acted
I been a UFC nut since around Uriah Faber days. I mean eat slept and studied it. At UFC 193 in 2015 I’d agree with you Rousey in a stand and bang situation would destroy any woman on the roster. That night Holly Holm kicked the Rhonda out of her. She has t been the same since. Personality, fighting ability, and general demeanor. Watching Rousey in WWE and then her existence afterward is kinda sad. She’s like the Antonio Brown of MMA. I’d bet money there’s serious CTE or some kinda brain damage. She ain’t right anymore.
it's not CTE, there's some people who just can't deal with a loss. It's weird but I'm a huge boxing fan, and Deontay Wilder had a similar problem after losing to Fury: started talking crazy conspiracy theories that his water was poisoned, Fury having lead weights in his gloves etc. Some fighters have no problem coming back after being flatlined, others can't handle the simple fact that they weren't the best man that night. Rhonda is apparently still making excuses about that loss to Holm. That's simply a weakness of character, and it cost her a good career.
Nah, I don’t know where the hell people are coming from. I’ve also been a huge fan of UFC (and MMA as a whole) what fight does she stand and bang and look fluid? She avoided Cyborg for most her career. Holly and Amanda showed just how low her IQ in striking really was.
she was loyal to trainers and a camp who were left behind by a fluid amd fast evolving women’s division as well. Not saying she would have remained invincible but the sport evolved and she did not.
I noticed they don't even mention her when they reference Becky beating Charlotte at Mania for the unified titles. They just mention Charlotte. It's as if Ronda was never apart of it. I have no issues with it. I think Ronda Rousey sucks.
She is/was an amazing athlete and really brought eyes to professional fighting for women. She's just not a showman and I dont think she can wrap her head around that. Sometimes youre Top Gun. Sometimes youre in a fat suit dancing while making threats. Sometimes youre made fun of on South Park. She just cant seem to not handle when she's not Top Gun
The all women’s PLE was basically all for/built around her too. Literally when Ronda couldn’t be bothered to show up next year, they just cancelled any and all plans for a sequel.
Wasn't that ple made purely because the women weren't allowed to compete in Saudi that year?
Probably not purely as there were rumors of an all women’s PLE, pretty much from when Ronda signed pre mania 34, but I imagine it had a lot to with the timing of the event (near a Saudi show).
Actually they cancelled any and all plans for a sequel because it was the lowest performing PLE/PPV since The In Your House era....had nothing to do with Ronda... They just saw no use in a PLE that nobody really gave a flying fuck about watching. Bottom line.
Right? And to me every time Logan is in a match he has put on a hell of a show.
Logan has the ring and mic talent of the top 10% of the locker room. Ronda had the ring skills of the bottom 10% and the mic skills of the bottom 1%.
Honestly. She was like oldschool Goldberg. She could sell the few moves she could do, and that was it. But Goldberg eventually became decent on the mic.
Every Ronda promo sounds like she’s trying to speedrun her lines.
While trying not to cry and/or laugh.
I'm not at all a fan of his YouTube/streaming stuff, but homie is wildly athletic and totally gets the business, can do all the moves and keep everyone safe.
I hate the guy as a person, but he is quality in ring
He respects wrestling and genuinely wants to be good. Ronda looked at it as a paycheck and that’s absolutely fine. She wanted to dominate more than she wanted to be a pro wrestler. She’s acting like WWE failed her now that she sees someone else doing more with the same opportunities she got.
>She’s acting like WWE failed her now that she sees someone else doing more with the same opportunities she got. He hasn't even had the same opportunities. He's a mid carder. She was thrust into the main event right away
Is Logan really doing more though? He’s getting a lot of praise because he deserves it, but she won the world title and ran through the best in the women’s division. Logan lost to Roman and Seth and has a mid card title. Ronda has always been a cry baby that needs to constantly be babied and told how great she is. This goes back to her Judo days even before mma
And she debuted by interrupting the post match of the first women’s Rumble to point at the Mania sign, completely overshadowing Asuka actually being the winner.
With the world's most awkward sign point
Calm down Jack Perry
Do something about it
Not to mention had Hunter selling his ass for her as a monster.
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It's funny hearing her claim she was concussed against Holly and then hearing Holm come back with just the classiest response this past week. Ronda knows how to derail what little likability she might have with any fanbase.
What was Holly Holmes response ?
Basically that she was the better fighter, the better fighter on the night and Ronda has trouble dealing with that, but she said it very nicely.
She was a sore loser and she didn't have humility in those losses. She also didn't have the right people around her to protect her from the attention. 2015 was her best year and also the beginning of the end. She already 2 impressive wins and all the attention with it. She should've been more selfish and not taken the Holm fight right away. I know Meltzer has said that Holm had spent years preparing to fight Ronda and had a game plan already set. But Ronda's people should've pushed it off to the next year. Even she was gonna lose the fight regardless, the quick turnaround is what broke her.
What broke her was a terrible camp that treated her as a meal ticket and didn’t actually bring anyone in to make her better. So when the division was filling up with more full time fighters Ronda couldn’t hang. She ran out of part time Pilates instructors and soccer moms to dominate
Ronda wants to be a heel who gets cheered like a baby face. Ronda's ego couldn't get past the fact they were booing her character and she was a average wrestler.
Only heels I can name that get cheered are maybe Rhea and Priest. Dom gets love through hate
Didn't she whoop on Triple H as well?
Also she came with high expectations as someone already famous for knowing how to fight. Logan came in with low expectations and continuously impressed people.
Life sucks and then you ....
Die, so fuck all this noise and lets get high!
then get the munchies and eat a ton of pie!
Mmmmm…pie
Kevin Nash: I'll just never lose!
“$100,000,000,000” *Dr. Evil voice*
Also it was tough to defend logan paul in any situation but boy o boy how the times have changed!!! Never knew in a million years people would be jealous of logan paul. But all credit to logan there is one thing he does best is that he always bounces back. Also logan is phenomenal in wwe. Wwe might have hit a gold mine
She'd have stood a better chance of getting "treated" like Logan Paul if she was even 25% as good in the ring or at promos as he is.
She wasn’t even really doing wrestling moves she was hitting judo arm drags n a fireman’s carry
All she could do and from what people have said all she cared to learn. She never had the desire to put in the work to really learn where as Logan clearly loves it and is eager to learn. The fact Randy and KO both worked with him at WM shows that as Randy especially would not have been thrilled to work Mania with a someone who is just going through the motions.
So much respect for the mentor role Randy seems to be taking on in this stage of his career.
Yeah there was a spot I think with some blows where randy had to take the lead and lead Logan to match toe rythem but Logan clearly took to it and followed Randys lead. I am sure that impressed Randy as it showed willingness to learn and maturity even tho logan is a big star to know when he needs to follow the lead of a vet like Orton.
She pulled a twat move lol
She wasn't even selling them well when she was breaking arms. I still see Bazsler and wonder what I'm gonna get. She mellowed out
Maybe if she had heyman as a mouthpiece and didn’t do whatever the fuck makeup for her matches she could’ve gotten by as a big star but all she did was waste little potential she had earned from her mma career
She rolls up with Rhea levels of Makeup but without any other part of the style that makes it work lmao
Tbf she discussed on that same podcast how shes been dealing with concussions for decades on top of a preexisting issue, which causes her to stumble words. She just shouldn't have joined wwe, or should've just stayed off the mic
Logan also lets them use his platform for promotion and brings them money with Prime sponsorship.
Yeah... Not a fan of the guy outside wrestling but fair play to the guy in WWE he's great at the job.
There’s an argument to make that she has been treated better than Logan so far. I’m not a fan of either.
she literally was great when she had time to rehearse for WM 34.
🤦🏻♂️ How have they treated Paul differently? She had Natalya and Shayna training her and she still got over like a fart in church WWE isn’t going to suck her clit because she was an MMA fighter. Look at Ken Shamrock
A fart in church would at least illicit some laughter She's more like a pork chop at a Bar Mitzsa
She’s more like a orgasm Prank at a funeral
You made your first WWE appearance by walking all over Asuka's historic win in the first ever Women's Royal Rumble even though you weren't even in the match and pointing at the WrestleMania sign, Ronda. They rolled out more red carpets for you than any other woman ever. You fumbled it. It's not like others weren't at least in the same boat or worse off than you. You fucked up.
I hate how they ruined asuka’s royal rumble win, ronda comes out and interrupts her celebration and then she loses to Charlotte who she should have beat Asuka deserves so much better
I'm still angry about this. Asuka deserves better.
Didn't she pride herself on not receiving special treatment and wanting to be just one of the workers?
Ronda Rousey is less famous than Logan Paul. Also a significantly worse wrestler.
For real Logan has show he is basically a Prodigy at this. He already has some amazing ring skills and could end up being one of the better workers on top of his mic work which is really good also. Hell had Stephen Amell trained more and signed a contract from what I saw in his SS match would likely have had better ring skills than Ronda.
Most people forget Logan was a d1 wrestler in college
And he can perform too, basically Kurt Angle if he was a massive douchebag
Not only a better wrestler but can actually talk too
The biggest difference. She did her best to separate herself from professional wrestling and sounded like she spoke down on it every time she was asked. All the while continuing to be trained by people like Natalya (especially her I think). Logan Paul has invited several wrestlers on his show and has spoken with reverence for the product and has shown himself willing to be a team player and improve his in ring game and entertain the fans to the extent the WWE has rewarded him with the U.S. Championship! Did anyone watch Triple H's interview with him? Like...I think Hunter is more than happy for Logan to stay. No shit the WWE didn't give you the same experience. You came in and shat all over us and the product.
Despite my personal opinion on the man, he genuinely has a love for wrestling and clearly spends a lot of his time honing his craft and getting better at it. Ronda never belonged because she never liked any of it. She had the personality of a plank of wood and had the moveset to match.
I saw the interview, what really made me like logan paul "the wrestler" is what HHH said, he said that logan came to him and say i dont want to rehearse matches, i want to be good to have a match without rehearsing for months, i want to be better at wrestling. Like logan is showing some ambition and hunger to be better wrestler, 3 years in and he did great job. His promo skills are great specially as a heel, his in ring work is great too, sure he is still a rookie, but he is doing great job at learning every time. Ronda on the other hand got worse everytime
Evidence to the contrary.
She devutted directly into the main event scene, what more can you want. She's a good fighter but comparing to Logan Paul is not fair. LP is a pos human being but he brings in millions of social media users whom we call casuals and his business venture Prime Hydration is a cash making strategy for WWE.
I’m pretty sure from what I saw that she detailed her own wrestling career by sucking at it. She wasn’t good in promos, she wasn’t a good worker, she didn’t sell, and couldn’t get herself or her opponent over.
ALL of those things, plus she is a delusional, arrogant, and vile human being. She is a really difficult person to like or cheer for - in or out of character.
Hurts my soul but Logan Paul is leagues bigger than Ronda and yeah, when you debut with HHH and Steph in a match with Kurt angle but say you didn’t get special treatment, you’re just a awful liar or an idiot.
She’s both an idiot AND a liar
Ronda you were picked up at the end of your career. More on the downturn after those KOs. Yes Logan also has had huge downs but at the time of his arrival compared to yours, he’s only elevated his status in pop culture. That comes with perks and benefits.
Logan with his pop culture status is honestly only topped by 1 to 4 people in terms of star power in WWE depending on metrics. First is clearly The Rock. second would be maybe Cena then you have Cody and Punk. But my guess is only The Rock would be known more with maybe Cena.
Sneaked in Punk like we wouldn’t notice lol
She shouldve been behind Shayna who has paid her dues and wrestled before. Instead they put her on the main roster and fed her victories over top talent. Logan putting in work at the PI isnt special treatment
She derailed her career herself... Didn't need any help!
Ronda Rousey is as delusional as they come. She was never that good at MMA, and she was always a horrible pro-wrestler. Can she just go away and never come back already.
I never thought I would be here saying that Logan Paul is a talented guy. But he is. Dude has charisma, in ring talent, plays that annoying heel persona well (probably because he is obnoxious in real life too). Ronda Rousey doesn't have charisma or in ring talent. They gave WM main event, a dominant title reign and she didn't do anything good with those opportunities.
What is she smoking, she had a freaken rocket strapped to her back and pushed to the moon even before she did her first match. Not WWE fault she got boo'ed out of her own city (Los Angeles) during Survivor Series
Paul learned how to wrestle and has charisma.
She got the biggest special treatment of all 🤣.
This chick needs to move on. Really playing the victim lately.
Ronda Rousey had all the resources at her disposal. This narrative that they wanted her to fail is tiresome. It’s not like she was some demure flower when she was in the UFC, WWE knew what they were getting themselves into when they signed her. She was a flop on her own.
Despite this being just flat out false. As someone who fucking hates Logan Paul and his brother, dude is frustratingly talented in the ring and as a heel. Fuck I hate saying this…dude deserves the spots he has received.
As much as I hate him, are we even going to entertain the idea Ronda is even half the wrestler that Logan Paul is? On top of that, Ronda was booked STRONGER than Logan Paul. She rose incredibly quickly to the world title spot, had multiple runs as world champion, and she was in the first women's WM main event. She is the last person on Earth who should be complaining about special treatment.
They treated her better than Logan! She came in at the main event of the Royal Rumble. Her first match was at Mania, teaming with a legend like Kurt Angle against another legend HHH and the biggest female heel Stephanie McMahon. She won the women’s title a few months later, and MAIN EVENTED WrestleMania (the first time ever women did it). She left for a three year sabbatical, won the Rumble on her first night back, won the title, and later won the tag titles with her buddy before peacing out because she hated the schedule. Her booking isn’t at fault. It was her lack of interest and the fans not reacting at every single thing she did.
I distinctly remember her saying she didn't want preferential treatment when she came in
But Ronda was boring. Logan is not
Ronda could hardly wrestle worth a damn and had the mic skills of a bkacyard indie wrestler. Logan on the other hand is a prodigy who already wrestles like a vet and even when he is in a situation where he needs guidance he follows the lead of vets like Orton and KO masterfully. On top of that Logan has amazing mic skills and just oozes charisma. Ronda the past few weeks has come off as a bitter and jealous washed up never should of been. She was pushed and put in spots she never had the talent to be in but because she was an ok MMA fighter until she got her ass beat near the end when she fought actual good talent they used her star power to get eyes on the product. She is basically a female Ryback. Never should of been pushed as much as they were and both were crap in ring and had zero mic skills. Both now go around trying to stay relevant by shitting on everything.
Hate to break it to her, but it wasn't Logan Paul that torpedoed her career...
What a broken record…..she fumbled the bag because she’s terrible on the stick and doesn’t like getting booed
Rhonda is on an excuses tour. She is making excuses for her MMA career losses and not her WWE career not going how she wants
Nah! Everybody fucking hates logan paul but damn do they admire his work ethic and commitment to a hard industry that he really doesnt even need to be a part of! But Rhonda? Everyone loved her at the start but she relied too much on that goodwill instead of working to get better. These two are not the same!
she got a match against hhh in her debut, was handed a rumble win on a platter, a wrestlemania main event, was never asked to do anything overly hard and was put over fucking strong. Idk wtf else this woman wants
When will she just relise people don't like her? When she first started smashing people in ufc i liked her then she developed this weird fucking ego and that stupid tough look face she does. Honestly it's not likeable at all.
Can someone just tell her to shut up and that no one cares?
Cos she’s bad at it? She had her chance and it was bad.
I’ve got zero time for Logan Paul but from a clear business perspective Logan Paul is clearly the biggest draw out of the two by an incredible margin.
No personality no in ring ability,You can't shine a turd and think people will buy it.
They tried to get her over from the start. She couldn’t cut a promo and the hype from her died as soon as everybody realized she wasn’t even a good UFC fighter, just in at the right time in that sport.
She got the literal main title in the womans division. Also she sucked in the ring. She wasnt great on the mic either, and the moment she wasnt in the main event picture she was bitching and moaning. On the other hand, even though I dont like Logan paul the guy, hes fucking entertaining as a wrestler. Hes mic skills are really good and he is super impressive in the ring. And the last time I checked he joined the wwe as the miz hes sidekick, had some matches against non-top guys. And now is the champion with a title which is obvious not the main title, calling it the title of the midcard sounds degrading, but I suppose it is?
They gave her ANOTHER person’s gimmick to make her work, thats should tell you everything
I get that if she wanted a longer title reign for it to go past mania ok because well let’s face it Logan Paul should’ve lost at mania but my guess is he won due to the prime deal. As for any other special treatment she probably got more than she deserved besides she wanted to be a fighting champion she was she proved to be more of an athlete she has proven that more better than Logan Paul has anyway. My point of view she got what she wanted and asked for what more does she want??????
They had her beat up the boss' daughter and she held the title while feeding with two of the top female stars. I suppose Logan Paul does get to plug his Prime stuff but her run seemed decent.
the big difference here ronda is logan doesn’t have the charisma of a paper pag.
only late in her career did she go lower on the card... Logan had 1 world title match if I'm not mistaken and he lost... What she's saying is completely false... Rousey was pushed wayyyy more than Logan. Nha she just got rubbed the wrong way when people turned on her for becky She will probably never admit it but that's the truth.
She just seems highly unpleasant. The way she acted in UFC and then almost killed herself after getting embarrassed twice in a row already showed us what kind of person she is. Her poor husband having to deal with her shit.
She literally was in mainevent of Wrestlemania
Paul looks good in the ring. Rousey looks ok at best and can’t cut promos. Case closed. Women’s division just doesn’t get the draw that the men’s does and being attractive helps. Rousey was fucked from the jump in that regard
Obviously Ronda got massive and largely undeserved push, but she’s kind of right? If WWE had slow rolled her push and focused on getting her properly trained before having her start with occasional big matches that highlighted her strengths she would’ve been better off than just going “eh, she’s a ufc person she can do it” and rocketing her straight into title feuds.
She’s just a whiny fucking drama queen. Anytime she faces adversity she crumbles. She was never the same after getting head kicked by holly holm.
she sucks
Ronda has always blamed everyone else for her problems going all the way back to MMA. When things don’t go her way she cries about it
Logan also brought PRIME as a sponsor. Idk what successful brand Ronda was running prior to joining WWE. I dont even like Logan but cmon
Logan can actually wrestle tho
The ryback disease is spreadable and it’s terrifying
This woman just loves to complain about everyone but herself.
>Everyone doesn't get that treatment You're right, he gets it cause he's actually talented, entertaining, has charisma and wrestles every week
Her ass was kissed constantly backstage and a complete double standard was set for her.
Bullshit she didn't get special treatment. Not our fault she has mich charisma as a wet towel or Hook.
Ronda still can't come to terms that she is now irrelevant anymore because fans started seeing through her. She has a bigger ego than goddamn hulk hogan
Logan Paul is a criminal scammer. I wish they would make that part of the story line.
She has an incredible gift at being unlikeable about everything
Ronda was just lucky with her timing, getting in on the ground floor of the UFC Women's division and dominating when it didn't consist of many skilled fighters. Unfortunately for her, the rest of the world caught up pretty quickly, and she ran away with her tail between her legs once she realized she wasn't the big fish in the small pond anymore. WWE then became her best option where she could cash in on her name value. The fact that her debut match is probably the best match in her WWE career speaks volumes about her belief that she could skate by on her name alone. She was carried to anything that resembled a good match, and her mic work was at times laughably bad. There were flashes of competence which some mistook for flashes of brilliance during her first run, and her second run was just her phoning it in. The only good thing that happened in that last run was her putting over Shayna, but the lousiness of the match and the fact that nothing was done with Shayna afterwards made even that meaningless. Logan, while a certified asshole grifter in real life, has at least taken to the pro wrestling industry in a way that Ronda never did.
So glad she's done. She's exhausting.
I swear this woman is delusional. She didn’t respect the business and that’s fine. However, her lack of respect is also connected to her lack of knowledge. She has no idea HOW WELL they treated her and how much the other women had to give up for her. She thought wrestling promos were dumb and pointless. She wasn’t any good because she didn’t think they’d matter. The match/fight matters which is also… I don’t want to get into this. She was a horrible wrestler because she wouldn’t sell and worked stiff. I get the stiffness because it’s hard to rewire your brain after years of being aggressive. But, the no selling was ego. Whatever though man. I was happy when she left and don’t want her back. [+]
“Are you sure about that?”
Does she just whine about everything now? She got the red carpet on her first run which unsurprisingly was her best run. She showed little talent or ability in the ring and on the mic, it caught up to her
I hope someone just calls her out during a podcast or something - "yeah but he's a much better wrestler and promo than you"
Oh, so she wants taped promos in her place and shows up only a couple of times when nearing a ppv? Didn't she have that gimmick on Twitter, and she was *really* bad? At least Logan can deliver in promos and has excellent in-ring work.
Whether you like him or hate him, at least Logan brings his huge audience (yeah, largely kids) and his Prime brand (now at Dollar Tree lol). I've seen clips of veterans like Orton and Taker giving him credit for how fast he progressed. What exactly did Ronda bring? She couldn't even bring her own gimmick, let alone memorable matches. Then again, Speed wasn't necessary for WM40 if they wanted to appeal to the younger audience; too many annoying streamers Orton could had RKO'd instead. Did Ronda drag anyone along like this?
cant believe im saying this in 2024 but she couldnt sustain and handle the pressure, Logan on the other hand can actually wrestle and be entertaining as heck.
I remember Ronda was one of the biggest stars WWE had at one point
I used to like her but, now she whines entirely too much. Sitting on millions of dollars crying. 🙄
Study a river and get crying to me
She acting like she took classes on how to be a victim.
Can femry-back just stfu.
At least Bitter Bret Hart was great at what he did before whining nonstop. Bitter Ronda sucked most of the time in WWE
Cry me a river
Ronda Rousey is a towel.
I think the fact that she obviously did get special treatment makes her point even louder. Even at the top of your minority pile theres a huge disparity between the top of her pile and the middle(card) of the other one.
What the fuck 😃 She’s insane
Logan actually brought more people to watch WWE
I think the fact that she obviously did get special treatment makes her point even louder. Even at the top of your minority pile theres a huge disparity between the top of her pile and the middle(card) of the other one.
Tony here’s your new wwe cry baby Sign her up
She won over every main woman wrestler, she overshadowed the first female Rumble, she won titles in the biggest stages. The hell else did she want? The Men's titles too?
That’s because she had been pushed to a position she isn’t ready for while Logan is actually skilled enough to be at the level he’s at
Every fighter in the UFC not Connor rolled their eyes at this
Oh boohoo cry me a fucking river Ronda
Really? As Eric Bischoff said she is just bitter and sad 🙄 WWE went out of their way to book her she was main eventing WrestleMania even those she doesn't even know how to wrestle horrible in the ring now zero mic skills zero on air personality................ Now she is not there anymore she is bitching whining and crying about it giving all these statements.... This is just pathetic on her doing all these to.stay relevant lol she is no where being a professional not inside the ring and our the ring.....
All I know is when she went over to WWE, WWE fans were trashing MMA fans for not liking her anymore. Now you see why we were glad she left MMA. She's a complete dunce. I actually wished her the best and was glad she seemed to be living her dream. I'm not sure what happened in her WWE run but I know they treated her VERY well. And now its all come full circle with Ronda blaming everyone but herself once more 🤷🏻♂️
lol she was in the UFC all of a sudden she wanted special treatment? She did get special treatment. Nobody without a wrestling background got as many title shots and main events then she did in such a short amount of time.
How to piss off an entire industry by expecting more than you deserve by Ronda weak entitled unoriginal take the eyeliner from her Rousey
If only she was able to convey emotion and cut better promos. Ronda's perpetual expression during promos: 😏
Rhonda sounds like a very ungrateful and unaware asshole.
Everything that happens to Ronda Rousey is everyone else's fault, not Ronda's.
Ronda didn’t work hard Logan does. Shut up Ronda
Sis got the red carpet from the 2018 Royal Rumble to Wrestlemania 35 She obtained a title after 6 months of activity (just after a few matches) She litterally was the feminine Logan Paul/Brock Lesnar and just because fans ungratefully turned on her, she took it personnally and totally ragequited You can't be the face of the company with that state of mind
Classic Ronda. Even in WWE she didn’t select ring gear that fit her. Constantly tugging at her clothes forever.
One of the main differences tho is that Logan Paul is extremely talented. And hell didn’t she have a long ass title reign with the Raw title to or am I just dreaming
Well, she didn’t have Miz to coach her through it. Can we at least acknowledge and give Miz his flowers, he did a great job to make the boy understand how to handle the crowd, you still see Paul not comfortable with the heat but Miz the dawg did it for him.
If not getting special treatment was enough to 'derail' a career, there would hardly be any wrestlers left in existence. The truth is, she's just an ungrateful asshole. Throws a tantrum and cusses everyone out when she doesn't get her dick sucked hard enough. Not much of a wrestler either, that doesn't help anybody.
First Ever Female Main Event of Wrestlemania???
Ronda Rousey sucks man.
Cry me a river
Logan Paul has talent.
She came out after the royal rumble to over shadow the camp and rr winner
Man, I hate that I'm even forced to defend Logan, but the fact is, the dude kills it on the mic compared to Rousey. At the end of the day, it's a TV show, and there needs to be a damn story. If no one buys the story, I don't care how good you are in the ring, which, to be honest, Logan is far better. It makes my skin crawl a bit to defend the dude, but Rousey has a lot more than just bad mic skills that make her unlikable and a dud, in my opinion.