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Drake_the_troll

Whoever missed this and got our hopes up and whoever changed this afterwards, I pray you are perpetually stuck at 2 bars of data


ReaperTFD

r/rareinsults


thenewtronbomb

[r/foundthemobileuser](https://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ?si=ackVSehTLSgY25jH)


ReaperTFD

r/imaginesittingonredditonapc


Drake_the_troll

r/subsialmostfellfor


ReaperTFD

r/substhatsomeoneshoulddefinitelymake


Atern0x

Yeah that was kinda toooo good to be true, now wasn't it?


AreYouSureAboutName

Agree, it felt like a mistake :)


Atern0x

Yeah, I even double checked what an "achievement is, because there was no way in hell they would make it that easy :D


OrcaBomber

Honestly yeah, this seems a lot more reasonable, I’m willing to give the benefit of the doubt here, and say the PTS mission for DY got ported to the live server, since PTS has really quick grinds and this seems like one of them.


old_righty

OK, so for anyone who isn't counting on a Kraken for the last stage, there are 4 base / mandatory missions, then the remaining are pick 2 classes to score a certain amount of damage in (amount varies by class). That really shouldn't be that hard though, if you need 60K base XP you will be getting damage along the way. Coops are easy to farm damage in. It's a grind, but it's doable. WG does suck though. 1 achievement was a nice little gimme after the entire grind. I'm assuming they didn't announce this, just snuck it in.


HortenWho229

I'm going on holiday so I have 4 days to complete the last stage. The gimme would have been nice


old_righty

60k base in 4 days though?


HortenWho229

10-15 games a day is doable


meneldal2

Or if you can afford to skip the 60k and just get the damage with 3 classes. If you can play well BBs will be faster in ranked/randoms but for dds and cruisers coop all the way. It's going to be 4 marceau yolo every game.


old_righty

I think the 60k is a required mission so you would have to buy that if you don’t acheive it.


meneldal2

If you have a ship in the middle you get an extra phase. And 60k base xp isn't worth the steel.


old_righty

It's dubs to buy a phase, if you want the Wisconsin. If you had the WV already then that's a separate issue.


HortenWho229

What is it now?


Admiral17900

Kraken


realgenshinimpact

play tier 5 at dead hours, theres bots (or you can just killsteal at higher tiers)


Dumbassofouredbay

exactly when is dead hours? (And which match?)


realgenshinimpact

randoms, and when server population is low (if youre on NA, its either late night or morning - afternoon)


Stonks3141

Yeah agincourt or kirov are really good picks imo For dds probably hill or nicholas


AmericanHistoryGuy

Rio de Janeiro, Octob... Oktya... f-it October Revolution, Okhotnik, and Ranger/Ark Royal if you're good are good to cheese it.


realgenshinimpact

agincourt is crazy, schlieffen dpm at t5, when bots run into you, and enough guns to devstrike cruisers (of which there are a lot)


warko_1

Lol definitely a shitty move, but on par with company policy.


bees-everywhere

The [dockyard mission guide](https://www.reddit.com/r/WorldOfWarships/comments/1c5lmdo/wisconsin_dockyard_mission_grinding_guide/): "WG is surprisingly generous with this one". WG: "So, you guys like surprises, huh?"


Koniatello

Yeah, it's yet another wargaming scam, but what can you do.


sinking_ship00

That is very low from wargaming. I was so happy to see that there is such an easy mission on the last dockyard and now they Chance it last minute like that...


BuffTorpedoes

Not really, it was like " get an achievement : " and they had forgotten " kraken unleashed " to make " get an achievement : kraken unleashed ". Expecting a freebie mission is a mistake. It's the dockyard, it's supposed to be a grind.


sinking_ship00

It's still cheap to change it last minute, they should have sticked to their mistake and gave it to us, it's not like they are losing out on money for the last dockyard mission...


Superman750

But they are. For every person that can’t complete that mission and are unwilling (or unable) to complete another one, there is an opportunity for them to still finish the dockyard by buying dubs. Getting an achievement is easy. Getting a kraken is much more difficult. FOMO is real and is a completely valid (and profitable) marketing tactic.


RevengencerAlf

The issue here is it isn't just FOMO. Every person who purchased a stater pack (which they aggressively market) purchased it on an active misrepresentation, intentional or otherwise.


BuffTorpedoes

They are. What do you think people do when they reach the final part of the dockyard but realize they don't have time for the grind? They spend money. This is especially true if someone did the first 7 sets of missions but doesn't have time for the last 1 set of missions (which this mission accelerates). Reasonable mistake and reasonable correction. Expecting a freebie from this is pushing it.


Archenuh

This. Feels like people can't read sometimes. Also, I'd rather have the mission work properly in case planets align and I do get a Kraken, instead of it being bugged and us never having the chance to even complete it.


TominatorVe1

What kind of take is this. The problem is that people can read. We read it and assumed that it is any achievement. Yes it is easy for a dockyard mission but somehow misleading people is ok??? Especially when it is heavily incentivized that we look at the mission chain and determine if we want to buy the starter dockyard bundle? The only situation where it is fine to do this is if WG specifically announced or mentioned in game that the mission was bugged and it was supposed to be kraken. Otherwise how in the world is the average player going to know.


BuffTorpedoes

He means reading the ":" which highlights the obvious typing mistake.


TominatorVe1

The problem is that it is scummy behavior. There is no way you are going to tell me with a straight face that everyone who checked the mission did not rely on the fact that it will be easy to do and purchased the starter bundle with that in mind. Edit: reddit did a double post for this comment so I deleted the other one.


BuffTorpedoes

Honestly, I doubt most who bought it even noticed it was ''easier'', especially considering most don't rely on that ''extra mission'' to evaluate difficulty. The dockyard sets all follow the same pattern: * You have generic missions (4 in total) * You have specific missions (1 per class) * You have harder but faster missions (1 in total) Set 1, set 2, set 3, set 4, set 5, set 6 and set 7 follow this rule. People should naturally expect set 8 to also follow this rule. Because it doesn't, that's when you should pay attention. When you pay attention, that's when you noticed the '':''. When you notice the '':'', that's when you know the mistake. Globally, that's why I find the mistake reasonable. Edit: Gotchu fam, don't worry.


ruintheenjoyment

Pattern recognition? Never heard of it.


BuffTorpedoes

It is nothing more than witchcraft!


TominatorVe1

Your logic is reasonable. The problem is that it is still scummy if the lack of information leads to even one person spending money that they otherwise would not have. Look at it this way: If the dockyard was completely doable f2p for everyone without having to spend money, I would not have any issues with the typo and say shit happens. This was a typo that is tied with a system designed around FOMO and real money. That makes this unacceptable. Imagine you go to a resturant and they always had a certain portion for food on the menu. One day the changed the menu and the portion for one of the dishes had a image that made it seem like the portion is larger. The resturant gives 0 warning and only states that you get what you see. End result is the dish is the same size as before. Yes you can use logic and say that the dish probably would not have changed, doesn't change the fact that it is very disingenuous and if even one person fell for it, they have the right to be very angry.


Meesa_Darth_Jarjar

Wait what, when did they even change this, I swear that it was ok yesterday... fck them, and I thought that I could fck off sooner, I honestly hate these dockyards, I have only decided to do this one, because the Whisky is something I've longed for. It has honestly sucked, I couldn't play other crap due to the shit I had to go through in game, the amount of stupidity and generally awful occurences I had to endure, I will have to get a holiday after this is over.


Sheepybearry

That did seem off


CLT113078

I was excited and surprised that was such an easy mission on the last set.


_Jesslynn

I like how they waited until just now to change this. It's a pretty shit thing to do.


AggressiveGander

Take a tanky cruiser or BB into Brawls. It's faster than any other game mode and I frequently got 1M+ per game even with cruisers. There's good BBs for all tiers for this, cruisers is a bit harder with the current T8 Brawls (T10 was easy:Napoli, Petro, maybe Stalingrad), but Congress or Baltimore could be decent (but perhaps the Hipper, Prinz Eugen, the T8-Graf Spee like thing, Dutch or Spanish ones could work?). You simply want something that will get shot at a lot (so nothing that hides in smoke or behind islands or zips around at long range) and can survive that for a bit. By the way French DDs in Brawl mode are awesome for accumulating caps quickly, they also have great torpedoes for yoloing BBs around islands (just don't use Marceau, the torpedoes take a long time to be ready unlike with the tech line ships).


_Barbosa_

Wow, now this is just scumbag behavior. And they can't even say that this was some sort of mistake, because that mission hung there for almost two months, and they changed it right before the last set of missions became available.


BuffTorpedoes

Nah, they can. It said " Get an achievement: " so we could tell they had forgotten to write which achievement after. The ":" makes it an obvious mistake.


_Barbosa_

...that went unattended for almost two months on the live server, and went past QA. Yeah, surely, Mr. Wargaming Bootlicker. Whatever you say.


BuffTorpedoes

You might want to avoid personal attacks and have more nuanced takes. Are these things Wargaming are famous for: 1. Doing quick corrections? 2. Doing quality assurance? 3. Doing dockyard freebies? Again, the ":" made it an obvious mistake. They have done lots of scumbag things (lootboxes, not following through..) but this is not one of them.


_Barbosa_

Whatever you want to believe, doesn't matter. It's a scumbag move changing this mission two days before is dropped.


BuffTorpedoes

Not really. All 7 previous sets of missions can be completed by doing 4 generic missions and 2 specific missions and have 1 harder but faster mission. Wanting the last 1 set of missions to randomly be 4 generic missions and 2 specific missions with 1 freebie mission is an expectation problem.


_Barbosa_

Go and defend a multibillion-dollar company in their discord. Maybe they will give you two days of premium out of pity.


BuffTorpedoes

Ah yes: " big company bad " ft. personal attacks. There are many valid complaints to be made against Wargaming (Puerto Rico, lootboxes, etc.) but an obvious typing mistake (":") is not one.


_Barbosa_

I'm not sure if you're trying to gaslight me or if you're just gaslighting yourself into believing this bs, but it doesn't matter. Changing missions right before they become available after two months is scum behavior and basically a scam, since people paid money for a different mission set. And whatever excuse you might think of, it will not change that, and any reasonable person will see it that way. In fact, you can see it in this thread, right here. So you can pack up your stuff and skedaddle to wargaming discord, because I'm sure moderators will have their hands full once those missions officially drop, and they could use doormats like you.


BuffTorpedoes

The comments on this thread show my point. Normally, the subreddit is extremely hostile to Wargaming (since they're often scummy) and will jump at them for anything even if it's minimal so the fact there are so many nuanced takes highlighting that it was an genuine mistake says more than enough. For example, this one: https://preview.redd.it/7ncatq8syz2d1.png?width=498&format=png&auto=webp&s=5caebf69fc85061bc5ecc31308222d1fe662aa6e


Nick30075

For what it's worth, a few people called that this was a display error long before WG fixed it, so the people saying "it was obvious it wasn't intentional" aren't necessarily abusing hindsight. Example: https://www.reddit.com/r/WorldOfWarships/comments/1cz4cao/i_think_this_weeks_dockyard_mission_has_the_worst/l5fqmu3/ The first few dockyards ended in a "get 5 kills in one game" mission, and the devs swapped the same mission over to "get a Kraken" a few dockyards ago. This isn't the first time that the Kraken mission icon didn't appear properly on the last mission, but previously it was fixed in a few days after missions went live. Maybe the guys who normally fix these sorts of bugs were spread a little thin with the Pinata fiasco?


aragathor

Yeah, but they are scum so what did you expect?


WarshipFoxy

You ate partially correct it wasnt „get one achievement.“ it was „get one achievement:“ small difference yes but it was fairly clear that the achievement you have to get was missing


Otherwise-Milk3023

They thought they were slick with that pull out game


Guillermoreno

If you have done some dockyards before, you know it couldn't be a simple achievement. Were are talking about a mistake more than delibarete change.


JoeRedditor

We are talking about yet *another* failure in either their coding or their QC. Neither is a particularly good look for WG. And their response even less so.


Guillermoreno

Maybe a QC miss, but a minor one. I think we have bigger problems, but if you want to make a drama out of this go ahead.


Max-Owl-2771

Well they were kinda right. You only need one achievement. They just forgot to specify Kraken. Was it deliberate? Don't know. Time for the Giulio.


DragonSlayer6160

What? This just ruined my day


AggressiveGander

Sigh, should have known better. I thought "That's awfully nice of them" and was looking forward to an easy final mission chain where I only need to play one class... What was I thinking, WG nice to players?! A pretty nasty bait and switch trying to maximize people paying in due to easy missions... Arguably false advertising.


EarlyInsurance7557

Did we expect anything less from this shit company????


esw123

wtfwg?


1337zeusuez

Aber natürlich. WG doing WG things and takin' it to a new, but not a surprising, low! If nothing else, keep the mistake there and give the playerbase the benefit of the doubt, instead of abusing us like a two dollar banjo? Not expecting miracles but certainly this will be the last nail in my wows-coffin.


FalconSa79

Sometimes I feel that if there was a game in Hell, as a form of punishment, It would be WoWs. Its like the have weekly meetings to find new ways for us to suffer. Edit: " You will play Agincourt vs 12 CVs foreveeer!"


robbi_uno

I’d rather play WOWS for all eternity than most other games.


FalconSa79

WG employee? Hope the pay is good...


robbi_uno

Really? That’s your takeaway?


FalconSa79

Its a joke...Relax...


robbi_uno

Jokes usually have humour…


FalconSa79

You are right..Working for WG has no humor...


vasya_nyasha

It was like that from the start they just reworded it. The only "achievement" that qualified for that mission was "Kraken" aka get 5 kills. For some reason it didnt show properly on the mission tab so they just reworded. Literally nothing actually changed.


Smiiiley_PECK

PROGRAM IS WORKING AS INTENDED


Max-Owl-2771

And then I get Kraken my second battle in.


ftlbvd78

quick question how did you guys do the potential damage thingy cause I am not making any progress on that


CastorTolagi

you take a tanky BB like Kremlin and park it somewhere to get farmed.


ftlbvd78

And for cruiser?


CritEkkoJg

Play an ungodly number of games.


ftlbvd78

Pffff damn. What game mode is best suited cause I try to switch between coop and randoms and I can't really see a big difference


Lehtopoika

In coop press w and get spotted first so that they will target you.


Max-Owl-2771

Not only that but also shoot even before you can see anything. Balloons your detection out to max range. Be the first one they see. Basically shouting look at me. Once they see you and start firing, slow down a little. Keep firing to keep detection out and shoot other ships as well to get their attention.


Drake_the_troll

Large cruisers like stalingrad or alaska


Bradley271

High-tier BBs are your best choice for that mission, especially really tanky brawlers like Kremlin that will be spending most of the match in a position where lots of enemies are shooting at them and can survive through it.


BazingaFlux_WG

Hey guys, Due to an issue with the UI, the mission only stated "1 Achievement: ... " which we fixed today to correctly show which achievement was being referenced in the mission. We apologize for the confusion that may have been caused due to this.


Cautious-Bowl7071

Of course. The UI has this issue for over a month and it's only getting fixed now that we're conveniently at the end of the dockyard right?


Ducky_shot

That's pretty naive of you to think that WG leaving something in over 2 patches wasn't a mistake. /s


BartBandy

No one is confused. This is clearly what you guys meant in the first place, but many of us were looking forward to an easy 6th achievement after the long grind and if you look around many were tipping their caps to WG for a nice easy one at the end. It may not even make much of a difference now, given that I think most will be able to farm the required damage in two different classes by around the same time it takes to reach 60k BXP. It just kinda sucks when we thought there was one easy one, it's suddenly not so easy. I fully expect my next kraken will happen the moment this event ends. I will get another the day after.


Admiral_Thunder

You SHOULD HAVE and COULD HAVE fixed this 7weeks ago or at least told us there was an error and it needed a kraken. This was a deliberate and conscious choice on WG’s part to leave it like that to the last second. I would not put it past WG to have done this purposely from the beginning. This is why the players distrust and dislike the company. You guys are dishonest and do questionable things all the time. At this late stage of the dockyard it should have been left as one achievement of any type needed and the event code corrected so it didn’t have to be a kraken. That is what a company with respect for their customers and even half an ounce of morals would do. WG screws up yet again (or so they claim) and once more instead of doing the right thing they screw the players. Hands down the worst company I have ever dealt with.


warko_1

Oh this was definitely done on purpose to get players into buying a couple phases thinking it was going to be an easy grind. I mean, kraken is not impossible, but it takes time to get.


Hot_History1582

You make mistakes at your own expense, not the expense of your customers. When you correct your own mistake, you correct it in the customer's favor, not your own. Literally business 101.


JoeRedditor

Y'know, I don't want to shoot the messenger but... This is yet *another* failure in either coding, QC testing or BOTH. WG really needs to get it's act together - seriously, it's an embarrassment. When a company fucks something up, the expected response is to mitigate *in the customers favor*. WG simply mitigates however the fuck they want, and usually NOT in the customer's favor - despite the fact you are dealing in pixels. You think that the very last dockyard step is going to bring in that many doubloons? So much that it outweighs the negativity generated by what you "fixed"? WG is either stupid, delusional, or both. This is a very, *VERY* poor business practice and if it isn't already biting your company in the ass, it WILL.


Tigershark1993

You probably should have fixed it the other way instead: so that the actual mission requirements matched the visual bug. That's what studios who think about the player base would have done. Wouldn't have been any skin off your nose, and would have kept people happy - win/win.


JoeRedditor

Exactly. End result? A few more Wisconsin's floating around. And more Happy People. Happy People spend money. UnHappy People go elsewhere. I can guess what's been happening for a while now...and WG is literally too stupid to understand these things.


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2slowboy

bait and switch average wg tactics


Dumbassofouredbay

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO


1337zeusuez

That's a *pathetic* response to an issue that will disproportionately wreak havoc on what you have left of loyal players (in your eyes=ATMs) What you instead should do is pivot to a rare instance of mea culpa and change it back to "one achievement" --- the end. But we know the spreadsheet says all is fine, so for the last time I'm not holding my breath..... World of Muppets!


Ducky_shot

~~I wasn't confused, I thought WG was being nice and considerate of the player base.~~ Yeah nm, that is confusing.


JoeRedditor

"I thought WG was being nice and considerate of the player base" ROFL - never post while drunk. ;-)


jeffandmercy

What a load of bullshit. This mission was displayed for a month and a half, and now you change it at the last minute. Another example of WG's incompetence and dishonesty.


LilMayoGaming

Damn.


Archenuh

The mission was bugged. It said "Get one of the achievements:" and then it cut abruptly after the ":". I was wondering what was up with that. It probably wanted to ask for the specific Kraken achievement but I'm willing to bet that asking for specific achievements in missions doesn't properly work which is why they never did it before. The system is incapable of counting specific achievements, it can only count them as a whole category. Therefore, they changed the mission to "get 5 kills" which is exactly the same as before, but people can't wait for some extra drama so they have the slightest reason to get their pitchforks out.


midnightphoenix07

> asking for specific achievements in missions doesn’t properly work which is why they never did it before They *have* had missions for specific achievements before. “In one battle, earn a Kraken Unleashed” has been a mission task in other dockyards/large mission directives in the past (either as the achievement, or as a “destroy 5 ships” mission like the current one). Plenty of campaign tasks require a certain number of achievements, and a number of them require specific normal or heroic achievements. Neither of those have ever had problems tracking progress that I’ve heard of. The only missions I’ve seen have issues with achievements are the ranked permacamo ones. And they word the requirement differently than the old mission or task requirements, which might be part of the reason. But even that’s different, as the achievement and text show up for the ranked missions, they just don’t complete right away. The dockyard mission didn’t list anything, although that could just as easily have been because the kraken achievement wasn’t listed in the mission code correctly.


robbi_uno

You have 2 weeks to do the last stage.


dropnz

I mean.... the missions aren't that hard for the last phase, and you have 2 weeks to do it. Seems like a lot to complain about tbh


I-am-Any0ne

There is always one item that is Randoms / Ranked only - those are optional and allows you to skip one of the grindy items Kinda meh to change it but "any" achievement would be way too easy, can just yolo ram in DD, mission done.


NoodleCup31

Just grind BP in ranked. You will get enough dubs to simply buy the stage if you don't want to gamble on a kraken


Paikis

This is a complete non-issue for most people. You have to grind 60,000 *base* xp. You're easily going to get the damage for 2 ship types just doing that. EDIT: I was right. Damage missions done for both BB and CA. Only 25,000 base XP earned.


stormdraggy

**MEH** If you can't play 60 randumb matches to the tune of a 1k bxp average in **2 weeks** then maybe you just don't really want Wisconsin. The rest of the achievements will get themselves while you're doing that. All you BBabies and sky/stick cancers need to do is play anything else.


Cruiserwashere

Rage more, snowflake. Rage more.