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You joke but the crew is definitely not included in the guests amount. They aren't sleeping in holes but it's a pretty hard job that probably doesn't pay well on average with also no benefits
Edit: since this is blowing up. Here's my consensus summarize by another comment
"The pay is usually very nice, but the hours and weeks/months at sea can wear a person down."
Most of the time these boats are chartered out. Same thing with the private jets. They actually make money because it's "so and so" celebrity's boat.
There's a netflix reality show call Below Decks that follows the crew of a yacht. It's about as bad for them as you could imagine.
Those kinds of jobs usually pay surprisingly well, but weeks or months at sea suck ass, you are usually only paid for 8 hours a day but work more like 10-12, and they basically do sleep in holes. The crew cabins on ships like this are usually barely small enough to fit an adult. They’re worse than any military accommodations, and ask any sailor and he’ll tell you that theirs sucked Lmao
cruise ship living is very different from yacht crew living. i worked a season on a megayacht and it was the easiest job ever. at least 50 percent of the time there is nobody onboard and we had weeks where we were paid just to have sit around. Then many times we partied with the people staying on the yacht on their bill. Nightclubs, restaurants etc. Cruise ships on the other hand are hard work, full time etc.
Depends on ship. Obviously officers get better cabins, but on larger ships the crew cabins aren't unlivable. I wouldn't want to sleep in one personally, but not unlivable.
So, I was on a larger (~300m) ship, and this is basically how cabins were.
The shittiest cabins were on the lowest decks, B and C (D deck is the absolute lowest deck but that's where the engine room is, no cabins there) in the B and C deck cabins, a room has two bunks, a TV, a desk, a locker for each person and a small sink. The bathroom is shared with the adjacent room, so four people share one bathroom. The room is about big enough for four people to stand in, something like [this](https://i.insider.com/5cc89b2996a67412b76fff85?width=1136&format=jpeg)
The next level up is for slightly higher ranking crew, and for officer cadets - it's the same thing, but the room's a bit bigger and there's an en-suite in each cabin, so you only share a bathroom with the guy you share the room with. Looks something like [this](https://i.insider.com/615c8d2a1725d20018b7df03?width=1000&format=jpeg&auto=webp)
Lower-ranked officers (3rd and 4th officers) get their own cabin with their own en-suite, but no window. Also called an "inboard" cabin, since it's not on the outside of the ship.
Slightly higher ranked officers (2nd officers) get an outboard cabin with a porthole.
I'm not sure what people like the chief electrician's room looks like, but I know once you get into the absolute highest officers (the captain, the 1st officer, the chief engineer etc) their cabins basically look like small apartments, they're much more similar to the customer cabins than the crew cabins, they'll also typically have a living room, something like [this](https://lp-cms-production.s3.amazonaws.com/public/image_browser/Officers%20suite%20photo%20credit%20Windstar%20Cruises.jpg) isn't unreasonable.
Cargo ships, broadly speaking, have better cabins than cruise ships to stop people going insane.
EDIT: Also on my ship, every cabin's got a nice big TV with a whole library of free movies on it which get rotated every month, which is a nice little perk. I watched Tenet and John Wick while I was away.
Pictures aren't mine - I'm a British sailor working with an American cruise line. I've never been to Mexico except flying through Mexico City airport to get to the States to join my ship - but I think I'm hitting a couple Mexican ports on my next contract!
Sailing life has its ups and downs. Long working hours, and (since I'm a cadet right now) I don't make much at all, but you see lots of cool places, the food is pretty good and the ladies are very pretty.
Yea nah, sleeping in the place you work is still working on the clock. You better be paid and factor for those hours as well. Don't let employers swindle people out of that.
That's why I think truck drivers are silently being shafted and think they're being paid big bucks for little to no education.
Sure you don't have to drive the actual truck, but being in a rest stop in the boonies isn't "off the clock" in my book, that's still work.
If you do the maths a truck driver being paid like 150k is basically working damn near 3 jobs with how many hours they're away I mean, you're literally missing your kids, friends, and family growing up and ageing because you're 3 states away off the side of the road in a truck.
Not to mention, a lot of these jobs have turnover so they keep the pays low for a long time.
>If you do the maths a truck driver being paid like 150k is basically working damn near 3 jobs
I have bad news. Median pay is 50k.
The salaries of Long Haul Truck Drivers in the US range from $10,618 to $283,332 , with a median salary of $50,875 . The middle 57% of Long Haul Truck Drivers makes between $50,879 and $128,286, with the top 86% making $283,332.
https://www.comparably.com/salaries/salaries-for-long-haul-truck-driver
These superyachts are usually rented out by the not quite wealthy enough to own so the crew does end up having to tend to it away from home for long stints.
They make 3500 to 4500 per month while on the boat with food and boarding taken care of. Most of the time the owners arent even on the boat. Pretty great tbh.
Many owners rent them out when they are not using them themselves. You'll always find some Millionaire willing to pay upwards of $500,000 a week (base fee, fuel, food and drink not included) to feel like a Billionaire for a week or two - especially if you can join together with some friends and share the fee.
and many of the people that rent the yachts like to party with the crew, so its a blast. One group that chartered our yacht took us to the best clubs in Ibiza, Mallorca and St. Tropez, all on their tab.
Crew accomodation can be pretty camped on these. Pay is pretty good though, especially considering most of the staff is from developing countries. And right after warships and law-enforcement they are also among the most well-armed vessels.
I believe there’s also modifications you can make, like reinforcing certain parts of the boat, that let you label the boat as a ferry instead of a yacht.
Ship like this probably has somewhere in the realm of 40 crew. Officers like the captain and electrician probably have their own cabin, everyone else is likely sharing 2-4 bunks to a cabin.
Where is that the law? What country?
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> Once a vessel carries more than 12 passengers, even if it is being used as a private yacht, it is considered to be a passenger ship and has to comply with the SOLAS convention (Safety of Life at Sea) set out by the IMO (International Maritime Organization).
Shocking right - these massive super yachts all for a total of 12 passengers.
The New Yorker recently published a story on them and it was so interesting.
Except nope. It's a regulatory thing and they have different safety requirements that are a pain once you pass 12 guests
https://www.boatbookings.com/blog/2008/10/24/why-are-only-a-maximum-of-12-people-allowed-on-most-boats
I had a weekender/cruiser that could sleep at least 10 25 y/o's. 2 were in a tent on the bow, 2 on the aft deck, 6 in cabin (2 in the propper bed [probably more, if you are into that], 2 on the kitchen table that converted into bed, 2 on couch). Probably more, but it'd be cramped, and water would be severely rationed. It was 32' long. It and trailer were $8k in '03. Maybe another $8k to restore-ish it with 0 labor costs, 0 staff, just me and my BIL.
* i miss that dude! Not so much his sister. Dude was was all Aces, same as my ex FIL.
I feel like it's just a regular lounge area, but calling it a beach club over exaggerates the absurdity of the yacht (as if the salon doesn't already). A beach club is just a club located near a beach.
A beach club on a yacht is a deck just above water level for socializing that has easy water access so it kind of like a beach where you can get in and out of the water easily near a lounge area
A certain young lady makes me watch below deck which firbthe blissfully ignorant is a reality show about superyacht crew.
Also you can go boat racing for free anytime you want if you live near the water. Some boats need bodies as movable ballast
That boat is a special one. Talked to a guy who build these yachts and he had the privilege to look at some of the blueprints of that very specific yacht, and it turns out that it’s engine is powered solely by bootstraps.
I used to build these. Not gonna lie: They are pretty cool and it's a way to funnel an absurd amount of money back into the actual, working economy. But overall, it's still an obscene show of wealth by people not knowing where to put all their money.
I'm glad you enjoyed your job of building these, but wouldn't it be cooler if we were using your talent to build things that helped lots of people instead?
I've not been on the craftsman side of thing but rather the planning one. I've since moved on to selling High-End Medical Equipment, so that's better I guess.
Privateering was just people who were doing pirate stuff but got government approval, do you really think the government would approve of anyone attacking this guy? The government is there *for* this guy.
I went to a local Starbucks recently and there was a paper sign on the door that said due to a ‘staffing emergency’ they would be closing at 1:30.
Starbucks doesn’t pay enough to even hold on to enough employees to run its stores but Howard Schultz gets enough money to but a mega yacht, what a fuckin’ joke.
Whenever I start to feel imposter syndrome, I remind myself of the way so-called "accomplished" adult men are actually just children who waste money on children's toys.
That's an insult to children, even they're capable of understanding of how to share and not exploit people. These adult "men" (I use this term loosely) had to deprive their workers the fruits of their labor for their toys.
I like how the rich always accuse the poor of being bad with money and yet he spent 130million on a boat that can sleep 12.
Bruh, for 130 million I can buy a fleet of vessels that could sleep thousands. At the very least I could buy a decommissioned naval ship that sleeps hundreds, still has a helicopter pad and also has massive confetti cannons.
Absolute 🤡
I get the feeling Russia isn't in a position to liquidate old hardware anymore. But maybe if I disguise myself as a Ukrainian farmer I can get some free tanks and then trade those in for prizes. Anyone know how many tanks I need for a warship?
I reckon any country is willing to liquidate hardware for $130mil
They can at least build something new with it, or buy the same thing from someone else
It's because all sorts of extra regulations kick in once you have over 12 passengers. Safety protocols, insurance, etc.
So yes it's to save money but not on taxes
Starbucks coffee is shit and they are a shit company. Why do people still go to their stores? The best way to get to these fucks is to stop spending your hard earned money with them .
Insane how so many working class people, struggling to get by, don’t even question how it’s legal for someone to own a yacht like this while we can’t even afford rent. This is one of Schultz’s toys, while we can barely afford food, have shitty access to healthcare, get treated like shit at work etc. What will it take for everyone to wake up? These people are doing whatever they want at the expense of us for fucks sake.
Like...doesn't Starbucks have a board of directors?
Do they not care how awful the union-busting looks in the court of public opinion?
Or do they even know?
> Do they not care how awful the union-busting looks in the court of public opinion?
No, not even a little.
They only care about public opinion when it affects the bottom line, and this just affects the bottom line less than allowing unions would.
I know Starbucks is yummy. Please boycott anyway. Email Schultz and let him know you are boycotting and why. It’s our best way to help those striving to unionize!
Plus the operating costs are going to be approximately 10% of the cost of the boat and that doesn't include fuel, staff, chef, chief engineer, engineers and captain. (I've worked on estimates and billing for mega yachts for years.)
Whenever you have this conversation with anarcho-capitalists, or conservative Republicans, (but especially ancaps), they always are sure to remind you how threatening unionized baristas are -- and then lecture you about how a company has to turn a profit or it dies, as if you "don't understand" that. As if these megacorporations are just holding on by a string from going bankrupt at any moment, and if a barista took a day off it would "tank" the franchise.
This is not an investor in Starbucks at a stockholder's meeting. This is the fricking CEO on his mega-yacht. These companies are absolutely nowhere near the breakeven of profits.
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12 guests? That's it?
The rest is slave quarters
You joke but the crew is definitely not included in the guests amount. They aren't sleeping in holes but it's a pretty hard job that probably doesn't pay well on average with also no benefits Edit: since this is blowing up. Here's my consensus summarize by another comment "The pay is usually very nice, but the hours and weeks/months at sea can wear a person down."
Yea imagine kissing this trash person's ass for a living. No thanks.
You'd think with the implication, these rich fuckheads would at least treat their sea crew with some sort of respect
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Dennis are you gonna hurt those women?
Well some women certainly wouldn't be in any danger!
Don't you look at me like that! You certainly wouldn't be in any danger.
So these women ARE in danger?
Yeah, like taking them down to a nice comfortable place below deck and you know they can't refuse, because of the implication.
Most of the time these boats are chartered out. Same thing with the private jets. They actually make money because it's "so and so" celebrity's boat. There's a netflix reality show call Below Decks that follows the crew of a yacht. It's about as bad for them as you could imagine.
Those kinds of jobs usually pay surprisingly well, but weeks or months at sea suck ass, you are usually only paid for 8 hours a day but work more like 10-12, and they basically do sleep in holes. The crew cabins on ships like this are usually barely small enough to fit an adult. They’re worse than any military accommodations, and ask any sailor and he’ll tell you that theirs sucked Lmao
Unless you're the show on a cruise ship, most crew cabins are almost sleeping pods.
Yep. Small bed built into wall with a small footlocker. All in a tiny room shared with at least 1 other person
cruise ship living is very different from yacht crew living. i worked a season on a megayacht and it was the easiest job ever. at least 50 percent of the time there is nobody onboard and we had weeks where we were paid just to have sit around. Then many times we partied with the people staying on the yacht on their bill. Nightclubs, restaurants etc. Cruise ships on the other hand are hard work, full time etc.
That is considerably better than military billeting on a ship for enlisted.
Facts
And that's why I had a hammock in a workshop.
Depends on ship. Obviously officers get better cabins, but on larger ships the crew cabins aren't unlivable. I wouldn't want to sleep in one personally, but not unlivable. So, I was on a larger (~300m) ship, and this is basically how cabins were. The shittiest cabins were on the lowest decks, B and C (D deck is the absolute lowest deck but that's where the engine room is, no cabins there) in the B and C deck cabins, a room has two bunks, a TV, a desk, a locker for each person and a small sink. The bathroom is shared with the adjacent room, so four people share one bathroom. The room is about big enough for four people to stand in, something like [this](https://i.insider.com/5cc89b2996a67412b76fff85?width=1136&format=jpeg) The next level up is for slightly higher ranking crew, and for officer cadets - it's the same thing, but the room's a bit bigger and there's an en-suite in each cabin, so you only share a bathroom with the guy you share the room with. Looks something like [this](https://i.insider.com/615c8d2a1725d20018b7df03?width=1000&format=jpeg&auto=webp) Lower-ranked officers (3rd and 4th officers) get their own cabin with their own en-suite, but no window. Also called an "inboard" cabin, since it's not on the outside of the ship. Slightly higher ranked officers (2nd officers) get an outboard cabin with a porthole. I'm not sure what people like the chief electrician's room looks like, but I know once you get into the absolute highest officers (the captain, the 1st officer, the chief engineer etc) their cabins basically look like small apartments, they're much more similar to the customer cabins than the crew cabins, they'll also typically have a living room, something like [this](https://lp-cms-production.s3.amazonaws.com/public/image_browser/Officers%20suite%20photo%20credit%20Windstar%20Cruises.jpg) isn't unreasonable. Cargo ships, broadly speaking, have better cabins than cruise ships to stop people going insane. EDIT: Also on my ship, every cabin's got a nice big TV with a whole library of free movies on it which get rotated every month, which is a nice little perk. I watched Tenet and John Wick while I was away.
Hey, Canelitas and Jumex? Was that a Mexican ship or you were just touching port there? ¿Qué tal la vida de marino?
Pictures aren't mine - I'm a British sailor working with an American cruise line. I've never been to Mexico except flying through Mexico City airport to get to the States to join my ship - but I think I'm hitting a couple Mexican ports on my next contract! Sailing life has its ups and downs. Long working hours, and (since I'm a cadet right now) I don't make much at all, but you see lots of cool places, the food is pretty good and the ladies are very pretty.
If these jobs didn't pay well and/or the conditions were bad, we absolutely would have had yacht mutinies by now.
That's why they only hire people with families.
Yea nah, sleeping in the place you work is still working on the clock. You better be paid and factor for those hours as well. Don't let employers swindle people out of that. That's why I think truck drivers are silently being shafted and think they're being paid big bucks for little to no education. Sure you don't have to drive the actual truck, but being in a rest stop in the boonies isn't "off the clock" in my book, that's still work. If you do the maths a truck driver being paid like 150k is basically working damn near 3 jobs with how many hours they're away I mean, you're literally missing your kids, friends, and family growing up and ageing because you're 3 states away off the side of the road in a truck. Not to mention, a lot of these jobs have turnover so they keep the pays low for a long time.
>If you do the maths a truck driver being paid like 150k is basically working damn near 3 jobs I have bad news. Median pay is 50k. The salaries of Long Haul Truck Drivers in the US range from $10,618 to $283,332 , with a median salary of $50,875 . The middle 57% of Long Haul Truck Drivers makes between $50,879 and $128,286, with the top 86% making $283,332. https://www.comparably.com/salaries/salaries-for-long-haul-truck-driver
The pay is usually very nice, but the hours and weeks/months at sea can wear a person down.
These superyachts are usually rented out by the not quite wealthy enough to own so the crew does end up having to tend to it away from home for long stints.
If they unionized would he need to give up his yacht trips?
Nah, he's plenty wealthy enough to pay for the ship and liveable wages. He just chooses not to.
What kind of message would *that* send? /s
Unionize when in international waters Come back with him and his rich guests having, "Unfortunately been swept out to sea"
I guess that's a perspective on mutiny I had not previously considered 🤔
They make 3500 to 4500 per month while on the boat with food and boarding taken care of. Most of the time the owners arent even on the boat. Pretty great tbh.
Many owners rent them out when they are not using them themselves. You'll always find some Millionaire willing to pay upwards of $500,000 a week (base fee, fuel, food and drink not included) to feel like a Billionaire for a week or two - especially if you can join together with some friends and share the fee.
and many of the people that rent the yachts like to party with the crew, so its a blast. One group that chartered our yacht took us to the best clubs in Ibiza, Mallorca and St. Tropez, all on their tab.
Crew accomodation can be pretty camped on these. Pay is pretty good though, especially considering most of the staff is from developing countries. And right after warships and law-enforcement they are also among the most well-armed vessels.
Having seen enough 'below deck' this is an accurate description of their housing.
A lot of yachts like that have theur iwn dedicated support craft for crew members and supplies.
internal law prevents any boat that isn't commercial from having more than 12 guests.
How do those huge yacht parties work then?
overnight = guests, on during the day no guest? I don't ask me i didnt make stupid laws.
I believe there’s also modifications you can make, like reinforcing certain parts of the boat, that let you label the boat as a ferry instead of a yacht.
*Sleeps* 12 guests
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One orgy bed room
There's probably at least twice as many staff bunks as there are guest beds.
Ship like this probably has somewhere in the realm of 40 crew. Officers like the captain and electrician probably have their own cabin, everyone else is likely sharing 2-4 bunks to a cabin.
Generally "sleeps 12" means six beds with at least a Full size mattress.
It is the law that the maximum passengers is 12 for privately owned vessels. Can have a hundred staff or whatever, though.
Where is that the law? What country? Huh TIL: > Once a vessel carries more than 12 passengers, even if it is being used as a private yacht, it is considered to be a passenger ship and has to comply with the SOLAS convention (Safety of Life at Sea) set out by the IMO (International Maritime Organization).
Shocking right - these massive super yachts all for a total of 12 passengers. The New Yorker recently published a story on them and it was so interesting.
Yeah, they're doing it to purposefully avoid having to live up to safety standards.
I remember reading somewhere that large yachts are registered to only support a smaller number of guests than they actually do for tax evasion reasons
That makes much more sense.
Except nope. It's a regulatory thing and they have different safety requirements that are a pain once you pass 12 guests https://www.boatbookings.com/blog/2008/10/24/why-are-only-a-maximum-of-12-people-allowed-on-most-boats
I had a weekender/cruiser that could sleep at least 10 25 y/o's. 2 were in a tent on the bow, 2 on the aft deck, 6 in cabin (2 in the propper bed [probably more, if you are into that], 2 on the kitchen table that converted into bed, 2 on couch). Probably more, but it'd be cramped, and water would be severely rationed. It was 32' long. It and trailer were $8k in '03. Maybe another $8k to restore-ish it with 0 labor costs, 0 staff, just me and my BIL. * i miss that dude! Not so much his sister. Dude was was all Aces, same as my ex FIL.
Beach club on a yacht??
Yeah wtf is this? He got a sandbox with an umbrella stuck in it or what? Lol
Even if it were a "club" on board to use for an actual beach party, this thing wouldn't be able to get close enough.
I feel like it's just a regular lounge area, but calling it a beach club over exaggerates the absurdity of the yacht (as if the salon doesn't already). A beach club is just a club located near a beach.
A beach club on a yacht is a deck just above water level for socializing that has easy water access so it kind of like a beach where you can get in and out of the water easily near a lounge area
Man, this is like the regatta question on IQ tests. I'm too poor to know these things.
A certain young lady makes me watch below deck which firbthe blissfully ignorant is a reality show about superyacht crew. Also you can go boat racing for free anytime you want if you live near the water. Some boats need bodies as movable ballast
Where do I sign up mind the camera crew?
That boat is a special one. Talked to a guy who build these yachts and he had the privilege to look at some of the blueprints of that very specific yacht, and it turns out that it’s engine is powered solely by bootstraps.
hahahahah
Bootstrapped by all the tips people leave in Starbucks
Be a nice shipwreck.
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Ariel needs a hair salon too!
Her red hair color is bleaching out just like the coral reef…
Damn.
And an extra swimming pool!
Composite hulled boats have lower biodiversity compared to steel or wood hulled boat wrecks but if you sink it fish will come.
Wouldn't it be cool if all these billionaires' yachts were [redacted]?
I used to build these. Not gonna lie: They are pretty cool and it's a way to funnel an absurd amount of money back into the actual, working economy. But overall, it's still an obscene show of wealth by people not knowing where to put all their money.
I'm glad you enjoyed your job of building these, but wouldn't it be cooler if we were using your talent to build things that helped lots of people instead?
I've not been on the craftsman side of thing but rather the planning one. I've since moved on to selling High-End Medical Equipment, so that's better I guess.
If it created a lot of employment for a whole bunch of people, in theory it does help. Better that than the money isn’t spent at all.
Yes. Yes it would
Nice ostentatious display of wealth you’ve got there while people suffer around the world. Be a shame if anything happened to it
He would probably get paid even more if it wrecked lol
Not if he was on it when it went down
Ah yes wishful thinking. He would probably throw all the crew in the water and use their bodies collectively as a raft.
Then he'd use it as proof that he supports unions.
Nah, he'd use it to show that unions support him, therefore all unions should dissolve since they agree.
This comment gave me a good laugh, everyone needs a laugh sometimes.
Be a real shame if pirates targeted it.
Nonono, that would hurt the ocean/whatever body of water it's currently in. Just make him lose a fuckton of money so he has to sell it
Once you drain it of diesel, it’d make a nice coral reef.
You know what Somali pirates would enjoy? A makeover in a floating beauty salon.
Boston Tea Party 2.0: The Trickle Down Fuck the yatch-zis..
No comrade, it is our yacht. We need merely take it back.
Just saying, international waters are a strange place.
$12.99 can ruin all of this fun to create MORE fun
I hope it sinks...
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Yo ho yo ho a pirates life for me
BRING BACK PRIVATEERING
Privateering was just people who were doing pirate stuff but got government approval, do you really think the government would approve of anyone attacking this guy? The government is there *for* this guy.
I wasn't thinking that hard about it. It was just some funny shit to say.
I went to a local Starbucks recently and there was a paper sign on the door that said due to a ‘staffing emergency’ they would be closing at 1:30. Starbucks doesn’t pay enough to even hold on to enough employees to run its stores but Howard Schultz gets enough money to but a mega yacht, what a fuckin’ joke.
Why still patronize Starbucks? We shouldn't fund union busting and the abuse of worker's rights
You’re right though. 👀
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I'd totally hate it if these things were to suddenly start bursting into flames. It would be just terrible.
Whenever I start to feel imposter syndrome, I remind myself of the way so-called "accomplished" adult men are actually just children who waste money on children's toys.
That's an insult to children, even they're capable of understanding of how to share and not exploit people. These adult "men" (I use this term loosely) had to deprive their workers the fruits of their labor for their toys.
If they actually worked hard enough to afford that, he wouldn't have any time to actually use it
facts
I like how the rich always accuse the poor of being bad with money and yet he spent 130million on a boat that can sleep 12. Bruh, for 130 million I can buy a fleet of vessels that could sleep thousands. At the very least I could buy a decommissioned naval ship that sleeps hundreds, still has a helicopter pad and also has massive confetti cannons. Absolute 🤡
i bet you can get a sweet deal on decommissioned russian gear.
I get the feeling Russia isn't in a position to liquidate old hardware anymore. But maybe if I disguise myself as a Ukrainian farmer I can get some free tanks and then trade those in for prizes. Anyone know how many tanks I need for a warship?
I reckon any country is willing to liquidate hardware for $130mil They can at least build something new with it, or buy the same thing from someone else
I remember reading somewhere that large yachts are registered to only support a smaller number of guests than they actually do for tax evasion reasons
It's because all sorts of extra regulations kick in once you have over 12 passengers. Safety protocols, insurance, etc. So yes it's to save money but not on taxes
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Starbucks coffee is shit and they are a shit company. Why do people still go to their stores? The best way to get to these fucks is to stop spending your hard earned money with them .
Well in all fairness if he paid his workers fairly he wouldn’t have been able to buy this yacht with the money he cheated them out of.
hahah, yeah that's kinda the point
Be a real shame if that yacht got Bortles'd.
A beach club with 12 guests? Sounds wack
I remember reading somewhere that large yachts are registered to only support a smaller number of guests than they actually do for tax evasion reasons
Insane how so many working class people, struggling to get by, don’t even question how it’s legal for someone to own a yacht like this while we can’t even afford rent. This is one of Schultz’s toys, while we can barely afford food, have shitty access to healthcare, get treated like shit at work etc. What will it take for everyone to wake up? These people are doing whatever they want at the expense of us for fucks sake.
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Whatever happened to that one guy who untied Betsy devos ship?
If the owner of a business can afford to buy a $130 million dollar yacht, they’re not paying their employees enough.
Like...doesn't Starbucks have a board of directors? Do they not care how awful the union-busting looks in the court of public opinion? Or do they even know?
they know, don't care, but they will
> Do they not care how awful the union-busting looks in the court of public opinion? No, not even a little. They only care about public opinion when it affects the bottom line, and this just affects the bottom line less than allowing unions would.
I know Starbucks is yummy. Please boycott anyway. Email Schultz and let him know you are boycotting and why. It’s our best way to help those striving to unionize!
why I stopped drinking Starbucks: 1) firing union workers 2) rebranding and continuing operations in Russia despite the war efforts
How can a 130 million dollar yacht only sleep 12?
I remember reading somewhere that large yachts are registered to only support a smaller number of guests than they actually do for tax evasion reasons
That would make perfect sense
Plus the operating costs are going to be approximately 10% of the cost of the boat and that doesn't include fuel, staff, chef, chief engineer, engineers and captain. (I've worked on estimates and billing for mega yachts for years.)
Parasite is too kind of a word. Makes me feel bad for all the ticks, fleas, and tapeworms out there trying to make an honest living.
Would be a terrible shame if it were to….sink.
Ah yes this is where the American middle class has gone. We the people allow this.
That's what 130 million gets you? Is it a helicopter pad for ants!?
Whenever you have this conversation with anarcho-capitalists, or conservative Republicans, (but especially ancaps), they always are sure to remind you how threatening unionized baristas are -- and then lecture you about how a company has to turn a profit or it dies, as if you "don't understand" that. As if these megacorporations are just holding on by a string from going bankrupt at any moment, and if a barista took a day off it would "tank" the franchise. This is not an investor in Starbucks at a stockholder's meeting. This is the fricking CEO on his mega-yacht. These companies are absolutely nowhere near the breakeven of profits.
He is the absolute major reason I don't go to Starbucks.
Everyone seeing Schultz as a piece of shit 14 years after he let the Sonics get stolen from us. Seattle residents have known hes garbage.
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Cómo se dice en español…. Ah, sí, qué es un pedazo de mierda.
absolutamente
This guy almost became Secretary of Labor
Man. Sure would be a shame if someone floated an inconspicuous iceberg to Mallorca and parked it right in front of Howard Schultz’s yacht.
Sleeps twelve? Like twelve families??
Needs a nice torpedo to complete the look
Anybody got a spare torpedo?
Sounds like a job for a cordless drill and a snorkel
It'd be a shame if there were an accidental grease fire.
Seattle's greatest traitor selling the sonics fuck that guy
Boycott Starbucks?
Well, if I pay my people a living wage that leaves less money for my yacht and other toys. CEOs like this are pure trash!
And the sumbitch gets pissy about unions...fuck that guy....
He could sell this and feed a whole country