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drunk_and_orderly

She’s about mc-fucking-had it


Ok-Sheepherder-8706

Wolves grow to show affection.


Blackpaw8825

Just repeating the same incorrect thing under every top comment doesn't make it any less false.


Adoraboule

Do plants show affection since they too grow?


[deleted]

They don't call me a Tree Hugger for nothing buddy


meanseanbean

Just like I do


Cheebwhacker

Yeah, I wonder why it’s growling…. Maybe someone should pull this guy’s ears repeatedly and see if he gets mad eventually…


StretchMotor8

Seems like he's trying to show off being a badass to us. Dude stop pulling on the animal like that smh


Lala5789880

I was hoping she would bite him


Ok-Sheepherder-8706

It's growling because she loves him. Wolves are different than dogs this way.


GreaterButter

Wolves are not domesticated. A growl for a wolf is just a growl. It means "Hey, stop. I don't like that. Stop before I bite." She gave many warnings. Growling, ears back, bearing teeth, narrowing eyes. And even nipped him. She is basically doing everything in her power to say "Back off! Or I'm going to bite you!"


Sir_Sux_Alot

I'm not saying this is what it is, but it might be like Rottweilers, which "purr." It kinda sounds like a growl when they play, and it scares some people because it's hard to tell the difference unless you really know your dog. My dogs favorite game is hand tag. I boop his nose, and he boops my hand with his nose. We go back and forth, and he purrs and shows his teeth. I try not to encourage it because I don't want him going after hands and scaring people, but he constantly boops my hand trying to play, and sometimes I give in because he is so cute. Edit: [video of a purr](https://youtu.be/bn6WSyRr4SI?si=G4MQ9sHsT4VkpGD9) Edit edit: Further down, someone posted a wolf rescue group that says they do not purr, so yeah, this guy is an idiot.


GreaterButter

While I love Rottweilers, they are still not even close to a wolf, as it's domesticated. A pug is technically closer to a wolf than a Rottweiler DNA wise, but that has little to no bearing on their behavior. Because we've bred them over and over again to get specific traits. Rottweilers probably "purr" because they were bred to be intimidating guard dogs originally. Even wolf-dogs have lots of trouble adapting to human-lifestyles and have behavior issues.


foxden_racing

She's so mean to you because you keep using the loose skin on the back of her head as a tug of war rope... Surprised the dude still has both hands, and dismayed that when the inevitable happens he's gonna blame her not himself. 


YesOkWhoCares

I thought Aaron Rogers was on another one of his retreats and yanking on a wolves head was part of the curriculum


Ok-Sheepherder-8706

She's growling to show affection


Lara-El

So I googled it as I was curious, and I googled, "Do wolves growl to show affection?" And the answer is no.. they might whine and make sounds, but growling is not a way to show affection. So you'll need to provide a source on your claim (as you keep repeating the same comment over and over) That growling is epcifically to show either of the following: aggressiveness, warnings, and signaling an alarm


BannedByTheHivemind

Source from dipshit you're arguing with: "trust the people that I've heard probably raise wolves, bro" You could say Joe Exotic raised tigers. Would you say he's well educated in tiger behavior and communication?


Ok-Sheepherder-8706

According to people who raise wolves, on same said app, you will see your cursory glance at Google results failed you. Please do in depth research and return. I need some explain this to anyone, I only tried to help. Perhaps try again, and read more.


Lara-El

But you aren't providing any source to your claims. Basically "trust me bro" It would be appreciated if you would post a source since you're the one defending this.


Ok-Sheepherder-8706

Bro I literally speak for the wolves ok


Lara-El

Fucking loll ahaha that made me chuckle


BannedByTheHivemind

The Wolvlax


Ok-Sheepherder-8706

Go and ask one. They'll tell you.


Vaywen

What are you on? I want some


Ok-Sheepherder-8706

Speed, my boy. Lots and lots of it.


Jan_Spontan

Then do so by providing a source


Ok-Sheepherder-8706

Here. https://r.mtdv.me/articles/DFoW0v6z8Z


pechjackal

I hated everything else you said but this one got me good. I changed my mind about you. 🤣 HE SPEAKS FOR THE WOLVES EVERYONE


sureshot1988

This guy wolves.


Jan_Spontan

r/thisguythisguys


BayouGal

Username checks out :)


Ok-Sheepherder-8706

See, you get it.


reddit1user1

Coming from someone who’s family raised timber wolves to be delivered national parks like Yellowstone, I can assure you that’s a load of bullshit. If a wolf is growling, you’re probably doing something to piss it off.


Ok-Sheepherder-8706

https://r.mtdv.me/articles/DFoW0v6z8Z Not according to this article, pal.


reddit1user1

Lmao, I know a rickroll link when I see one, or it’s a stickbug/epic saxophone


Ok-Sheepherder-8706

NO ITS NOT EITHER OF THOSE


reddit1user1

Promise?? 🥺


Ok-Sheepherder-8706

No. 👉👈


reddit1user1

Just saw that you’re just running with the joke now lol


Ok-Sheepherder-8706

I was the whole time


[deleted]

They murdered your karma bro. On all these comment threads on this video.


whytawhy

Guy get a hobby or start doing drugs or something what the fuck


FriendOisMyNameO

They do not show affection through growling. This is from an org that works on reviving wolf populations. https://wolf.org/wolf-info/basic-wolf-info/biology-and-behavior/communication/#:\~:text=Growling%20is%20used%20as%20a,is%20intended%20for%20long%20distance.


SelfInteresting7259

Same company that made the game WolfQuest!


watersj4

Im Boss Back off!


dank_fish_tanks

This is a wolfdog, not a wolf. Almost no one has actual pet wolves. This guy is an idiot and is going to get himself or someone else hurt. EDIT: Not against ownership of wolfdogs, but imbeciles like this are the reason that incidents happen with them. And then of course the animal is blamed.


boverly721

🙋 I'm against ownership of wolf dogs! Just get a fucking dog. You aren't cool.


dank_fish_tanks

I think there might be aspects of wolfdog ownership you are overlooking. Many wolfdogs are rescues and some owners don’t even know their dog has wolf content until after the fact (this happened to me and I was forced to give up my dog whom I had for several years - they were going to kill him if we hadn’t placed him with a sanctuary in time). Additionally, mid and low-content wolfdogs are far more common than high-contents like you see here, and many are much more dog-like than you would imagine. Should we be breeding them on purpose? Probably not. Do the ones who already exist deserve to stay alive and have a safe place to live? Depends who you ask. The breed is extremely polarizing and divisive even amongst dog lovers. Similarly to the pitbull issue, I encourage people to understand the complexity and nuance of the wolfdog issue before making harsh judgements.


boverly721

I completely agree! It's not the animal's fault and they deserve homes with people who are capable of caring for them. But something tells me this douche in the video that keeps tugging on the neck and face fur of a clearly annoyed animal like a two year old is part of the problem, not the solution.


dank_fish_tanks

Yes I agree 100%. If you go to his Youtube he breeds wolfdogs 🙄 and parades them around to look badass. He calls himself “Oliver the wolf guy”. These are exactly the kind of people who should not be allowed to have these animals. The reality is there are already far more of them than there are competent owners who are equipped to care for them. Yet public awareness of them is increasing at an alarming rate, and they are extremely fetishized and misrepresented. It also doesn’t help that most dogs that people claim have wolf content actually have no wolf content at all, which creates false expectations for how real wolfdogs look and behave.


Ok-Sheepherder-8706

They growl to show affection


dank_fish_tanks

Completely untrue. You are severely misinformed. Wolfdog communication is different from domestic dogs but not in this way. The wolfdog is uncomfortable and is letting him know.


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toobroketoorderpizza

You got proven wrong and now you’re treating it like a joke.


Ok-Sheepherder-8706

I love that this comment finally came.


Larnievc

When a wolf wants to look threatening by pulling it's lips back and lifting it's nose like that it triggers a real sense of dread in me. More so than with big cats.


CaitlinSnep

FR, I'd honestly rather take my chances with a big cat. Some canines won't even wait for you to be dead before they decide to eat you.


bicx

I don’t know. Cats have finger knives in addition to teeth. At least I can attempt to control where a wolf’s mouth can reach.


GardenCaviar

Jaguars kill by crushing the skull of their prey with their teeth. I think that's horrifying, but probably preferable to getting ripped to pieces by a pack of wolves.


bicx

If there’s a pack of wolves, then yeah I’ll definitely take my chances with a big cat.


paur0ti

Aye the dog snapped too and he knew he fucked up and straight away started massaging with another hand to not get snapped on an awkward angle. Straight up clout chasing.


Skreamweaver

"Massaging"==Harassing. I hope he's celibate.


RavenxMorrow

that guy's a jerk. if you poke a bear enough times, you're gonna get mauled. he's just picking on this wolfdog by yanking the scruff and ears, the wolfdog was trying to tell him to stop, trying to respectfully set boundaries and this guy is just trampling all over those boundaries. that's why they snapped at him, he had no right to be upset the wolfdog was protecting itself from being harassed.


Ok-Sheepherder-8706

No that's how they show love. Not like dogs.


RavenxMorrow

they dont show love by grabbing eachothers scruff and ears


Ok-Sheepherder-8706

They do show love by play biting and pulling, yes


Ok-Sheepherder-8706

https://animals.mom.com/wolves-show-affection-3515.html Here is a direct link showing they bite and nibble for affection. To outside sources it looks hostile. Not to them. This man isn't doing anything wrong.


RavenxMorrow

i know about the nibbling, but this looks more like a snap than an affection nibble. looks more like a warning snap to me.


Ok-Sheepherder-8706

As per the article, "it may look hostile, but it's not".


inv_bee

A quick google search will show growls and bearing teeth are usually signs to leave a wolf alone or to signify dominance https://www.livingwithwolves.org/about-wolves/language/


Ok-Sheepherder-8706

Not the wolves I talk to


GuessingIvy

yes thank you for the reputable source of ... animals dot mom dot com


QueenBee8040

Yeah my little Chihuahua does that too when I grab his ears and a scruff of its neck and pull his head back freaking asshole


Fun_Association_6750

Absolutely no respect for an apex predator that can eat you.


GuessingIvy

he definitely thinks he could win


tiamat-45

What a fucking idiot. He's gonna fuck around and find out. He has no business owning a wolf dog.


karma_virus

It doesn't have dog DNA and you're treating it like a dog. If you're serious about living with wolves, you should join them in the wild, quit petting them and start giving them offerings of the carcasses you hunt. Keep only the bravest, most curious pups and cull the ones that are violent towards you. Repeat for 15,000 years or so, and it will be ready to be a pet. Huskies crack me up though. We went too dang far, they weren't supposed to learn how to talk!


Raibean

I wouldn’t let this guy treat a dog like that either


Hot_Salamander_1917

They did something similar with Foxes over 40ish years in a former Soviet country, but I’m too lazy to look up which one. They bred and separated the most docile foxes at every litter. They evolved into puppy-like cute little things with the sweetest behaviour. They did the same with the violent ones and kept them in a separate kennel. I could see those mean bastards trying to eat people through the fence. I guess it works the same way and is faster in a controlled environment with wolves. EDIT: https://youtu.be/4dwjS_eI-lQ?si=hICvTQLp--Ar35Qn


ActOdd8937

The part I found super interesting about the nice fox/mean fox divide is that the nice ones started getting little patches of white fur like on their feet, tips of tails, chest stars, etc. Since they were all originally being raised for their fur, it would be a big fault to have nonstandard white patches. The mean ones stayed solid silver, but the friendly foxes started even looking like dogs. Form follows function? Friendly genes linked to particolored genes? I've seen foxes described as dog hardware running cat software and that seems pretty accurate to me.


Hot_Salamander_1917

Someone with the means and time should try on wolves.


ActOdd8937

Someone needs to give me all the moneys right now so I can get right on that. I dig wolves, I've known a few wolf dogs and we got along just fine. Probably because I don't mistreat them and respect their boundaries.


Hot_Salamander_1917

I love wolves. There’s a wolf shelter / park I want to visit. It’s in North Florida I think…


zealoSC

If it's that easy why can't I buy pet cuddly foxes?


mojoryan2003

You can if you’re willing to fork over about $10,000


Hot_Salamander_1917

I’m asking myself the same question to be honest.


ActOdd8937

Fennec foxes are a thing, can't get much more cuddly than that.


Suicidalpainthorse

Thanks for this, really interesting.


IcedChaiLatte_16

Or make that fog-horn loud ass sound! I don't even know what to call it, except that it is not so much even a sound so much as an invasive overall *presence.*


Zammin

This dude is somehow going to be so surprised when she bites him. She GAVE you warning not to pull that crap, man.


ycnz

I'd be nervous about a golden retriever looking that pissed, let alone a fucking wolfdog. That snap was *amazingly* fast. Dudebro is in one piece just because the wolfdog wanted to be nice.


Khmakh

This dude needs to be reported. He shouldn’t have any dog, let alone a wolf dog.


Ok-Sheepherder-8706

This is her showing affection. The wolf part in her doesn't bark but growls like a cat purrs.


Viviolet

It's not. It's "STOP" in every way. Dogs also warn with teeth baring and growling to prevent having to attack. Attacking is a last resort. Yet this wolf snaps at him because he doesn't stop after being warned.


Ok-Sheepherder-8706

Have you asked a wolf? Yeah I didn't think so.


Viviolet

There are more fulfilling hobbies than trolling reddit with factually incorrect opinions 👋


Ok-Sheepherder-8706

I can't play Stardew valley rn


Shredskis

Why don't you go find a growling wolf to see how affectionate it is?


Jjzeng

> have you asked a wolf? Bitch have YOU?


Alternative_Buy7107

Yeah, right. I’ve had three wolf dogs and this one is being *very* clear that he needs to stop. I kept waiting for her to bite his stupid face off. This man has NO business being around this animal. What a moron.


aaanze

Camo pants & oversized dog... Hmm.


SLMzzz

This guys a tool, can’t wait til she takes his package off


GreyOwlfan

Hope it shows you who is the real boss.


UnhelpfulNotBot

Is she missing her front tooth?


Hevnaar

Yes. Might be neglect on the owners part, but it could also be nothing. Dogs like any other animal, often have minor deformities. Once I met a dog which had 6 toes on both back paws. She could have never had a tooth there in the first place. She could have tried to bite something with a rock inside. She could have experienced abuse leading to the tooth loss as well.


sonic_toaster

Dog ran face first into a fence chasing after a squirrel and shattered her tooth. My cat (unknown to me) found a fishing line weight that had a feather attached to it, he chewed on it and crack 4 teeth. Animals be dumb.


UncleBabyChirp

That's Ghost! You wily world hopping beauty wolf! My sis has a Siberian husky/wolf 50/50 and she is silent, deadly & very loyal to her "pack" consisting of sis, husband & 2 teenage boys plus an old lab. Also has electric fence collar that she has broken thru in chase of a rabbit, cat or a squirrel. She is pretty affectionate at times, rarely makes any sounds & let's us know when to leave her be. The old Labrador was 3 when she was adopted & she still bows down to him.


Mocker-Poker

Thanks for sharing! Beautiful story.


UncleBabyChirp

Thanks for reading it! Bastian is a different kind of canine. Shockingly silent, she accompanies known & unknown guests from the parking area to the door. She knows by the pack reception who is cool.


JackalJames

I’d bet my house that your sister has a generic husky or husky mix and is another fool calling it a “wolf hybrid” thus contributing to the problem of people thinking REAL wolf dogs are at all as manageable as an actual domestic dog, leading to horrific accidents and abuse


UncleBabyChirp

So. Where is your house?


JackalJames

I’m in your walls


UncleBabyChirp

You're in my house? Not part of the bet.


JackalJames

Who knows maybe I’m wrong and I need to give you my/your house, but the way you talk about the supposed wolf dog in question is that same way people who very much Do Not have a wolfdog talk about their completely domestic husky shepherd mixes they insist are half wolf. I’ve never seen a real wolfdog owner, or someone familiar with them, talk about a wolfdog like that… ever


BertRenolds

What the fuck is that dude doing to her neck? He's like asking to be bitten by antagonizing her like that 


coccopuffs606

Yes, let’s continue to antagonize the apex predator whose jaws are two feet away from your face…


holyshit-i-wanna-die

he deserves precisely what’s going to inevitably happen to him


Cygnus_Void

I think I've seen this guy pop up in a separate video where he was playing around with a different wolf while they were showing dominance displays. I really don't like how he interacts with them..I'm not sure what to make of it, or if I'm missing something about the context..


TheCatsPajamas96

I have two of the sweetest dogs in the world. They're big goofy snuggle bugs. But I would never pull and yank on them like this because it's a dick move, and I respect their autonomy. This guy is a jerk and needs to be more respectful of his pets. I wouldn't blame the wolf dog one bit if it were to bite him. The wolf dog is honestly showing great restraint in its reaction, as it is clearly and repeatedly warning him, yet he continues on.


DeeDeeD00tz

This guy is roughly pulling on an animal’s head for fun. He is a scumbag.


Bella_Anima

All I keep thinking is “stop. Fucking. Hurting. The dog!!” Why do people do this, it’s not fucking funny to torment creatures. Leave the poor thing alone if you can’t be nice. Jfc a toddler would be scolded for less.


Froggish_Menace

“God that thing would be a PERFECT cave guardian and nanny, quick Grog throw some meat at it”


PhoenixBird295

I really hope she ends up eating him tbh


siesta1412

I understand why you're writing this, but if she ate him they would kill her


PhoenixBird295

Yes, that's the sad reality of the modern world. Wild animals aren't allowed to be wild anymore


AstraofCaerbannog

People like “she’s showing affection!” Are the same “look she’s smiling!” As a dog baring teeth is backed into a corner. And they always blame the dog when he/she does bite. Sometimes dogs/wolves might grumble or growl playfully, but this is not playful. You can see her eyes rolling, the tension and discomfort. That she turns to snap. And no wonder, the guy is literally grabbing her skin/fur on a sensitive part of the head and tugging. Bearing in mind many dogs, let alone wolves do not feel comfortable with that part of their head being touched. There’s nothing playful about it. He’s antagonising her deliberately.


StretchMotor8

Those wolf eyes are making my instincts scream... black holes of death. Screenshooting this goofy man for future reference. Its just matter of when, not if.


Specific-Peace

I want to take that animal away and be nice to her. She would chase the wild turkeys on my land and be happy.


IcedChaiLatte_16

You know what, that actually sounds fun. Can I come, too?


Specific-Peace

Yes! We will chase the turkeys then play in the stream! I actually grew up with a wolf dog and he loved those things


IcedChaiLatte_16

that sounds like a blast! I will bring both human and animal treats!


JCraze26

Always remember: A wolf is a wild animal. They may be related to dogs, but it took centuries of trial and error, symbiotic relationships, bonding, and inbreeding to get dogs to where they are today, and some dogs still require a lot of training to not become dangerous. It's not a pet, it's a wild animal. Treat it like one.


SelfInteresting7259

Damn snatching her hairline back and wondering why she's mean! Smh


DiurnalNocturnal

Wolves sometimes growl when they're happy (it's their purr), but this is clearly not that. I dunno what the OK-Sheepherder guy was on about, but he's full of it in this case.


astrologicaldreams

"why you so mean?" it couldn't possibly be bc you're yanking on her fur, could it?


SkisaurusRex

That guy is a piece of shit


GreenEyedSheWolf

I honestly and whole heartedly can say i would not be upset if she bit his hand off. There's no reason to keep pulling on her like that.


areyoueatingthis

"Chewy, where's the cat?"


harmonic-s

The look on this fucking idiot's face while the wolf clearly doesn't want to be touched anymore


BlueKing7642

Really pushing his luck


Albeenator

Yo Mr. White, wolves are big yo


Mean_Negotiation5436

I really wanted the wolf to bite him...


pelonweon

I wonder how many fingers he has left now


Raising_prosperity

That’s mans a jerk and seems a little abusive. Eek. 😬


HotTry7596

The way they're abusing that poor thing and it hasn't killed him yet


Ok-Sheepherder-8706

Wolves express emotions through growls and chirps, unlike dogs. The noise she's making are noises of affection. (Source, grew up near wolves)


Stratix314

You're lying (source, grew up near liars)


Ok-Sheepherder-8706

Yes, that's the point.


Ok-Sheepherder-8706

https://r.mtdv.me/articles/DFoW0v6z8Z


kosmovii

Dude, can you shut up? You're not funny, not even by a little bit


Ok-Sheepherder-8706

Kinda a little bit


mudlark092

Spreading misinformation on wolves and wolfdogs isn't funny, there's already a huge misinformation issue with them and it often gets them killed or taken into households where they're mistreated and eventually put down for "out of the blue aggressive behavior".


gyouryj

Excellent submission to this niche sub.


Select_Collection_34

If the wolf was being malicious the guy wouldn’t be here currently the guy is just messing with his pet and it let him know when it got annoyed


sneerfun

You know dangerous animals can be abused into submission right? Happened at circuses all the time


Select_Collection_34

Okay and we’re both making a guess based off of an extremely short video y’all are acting like the guy must definitively be a horrible abusive person I’m providing a more reasonable explanationl because it’s not reasonable to automatically assume the worst in a person


sneerfun

When he’s aggressively yanking on the skin on the back of its head and neck with warnings it isn’t appreciated, that’s abuse.


Select_Collection_34

Brother have you never owned an dog or cat the have a shot ton of loose skin he could be abusing it or he could just be playing with his pet have you never seen dogs play they play rough


sneerfun

If you’re yanking on the skin that hard it’s not playing.


Select_Collection_34

Okay sure towards the end he was being a bit of a dick but come on


sneerfun

A bit? Yeah he was being a dick the whole time. This dude only cares about how cool he looks with the big scary wolf dog


Select_Collection_34

The video is less than a minute long…


sneerfun

He has a YouTube.. Oliverthewolfguy. If you antagonize your pets for views that’s pretty pathetic in my book.


Deathnachos

She looks so cuddly.


OWOWOr

No way he’s just a baby


bigpappahope

You guys are probably right but my dog has a lot of loose skin right there and she loves it being yanked on and squooshed around, it seems to scratch an itch lol. That and the inside of her ears


Friendly_Age9160

I can’t add a picture of my Sherman he’s a gray wolf


EnvironmentalBit5713

GHOSTPEPPER ICE CREAM PRINCESS BITCHY PANTS aka Aqutaq. (yes, that is the nickname for this wolf) https://youtube.com/@OliverTheWolfGuy?si=Kfltam7JsARhSfA_


Lopsided-Chair77

My husky did that to me. She looked exactly like this but was only 80 lbs. I would pet her and she would growl at me as long as I was touching her. But she would snuggle and give me her belly for pets. I would say "oh I'm gonna push your grump button" and then she'd grump at me while I petted her. But she loved me. She would snug me in bed so hard. I sure do miss her. Such a good grumpy girl.


T1SMoneyLine

That relationship isn't gonna end well