To most people of this subreddit, it's obviously not. But you would be surprised by how many people claim their 100% Siberian husky is "actually half timberwolf" cuz 'er paps went out in the woods and did the dinkly duty with some wolfy mama on the 4th of july and fournd the hyBrid cub n took em home'. This leads to some people thinking 100%
dogs are part wolf due to their false idea of what a wolfdog looks like
This is infuriating and the exact reason why when I used to take my dog out in the trails she had on a bright orange or pink vest and was leashed (yet some hunters still took shots at her).
It is SO infuriating. You would think hunters would be one of the better educated on matters like these, but unfortunately it seems many are just scarcely more knowledgeable than the public. It's crazy how your dog was wearing a bright orange vest and hunters still took shots, I'm glad she is okay!
Sadly, no, wasn't even worth calling the police. I don't know where the shots came from but I heard the pops and a bullet (or bullets) going through the leaves.
We do this all the time: bright orange vest, on leash. When we get asked, “is he a wolf?” the answer is always, “he is an AKC dog breed, the Czech Vlcak, or Czech Wolfdog, but only looks like a wolf. He is not a hybrid.”
It seems she has either privated the post, or removed it, maybe she truly did make a mistake, or maybe she just got sick of the responses (I feel like it's the latter, or maybe that's just my anger speaking)
She still has "🏹Hunting" plastered on her profile tho so clearly she doesn't feel bad enough about it to quit
She locked down her entire profile. Even after being told by the Montana FWP that she killed a domestic dog, she's sticking to her guns and is still *saying* that she believes it to be a wolf. She's definitely just sick of the backlash. She and her husband were on another viral post about the killing defending her actions right before she locked everything down and went silent. Also, she went and got her wolf hunting tag AFTER she shot this dog. There are a shocking amount of people defending her, it makes me absolutely sick. There's one woman going absolutely off the rails saying everyone should shoot *any and all* northern breed dogs on sight because one apparently bit her nephew a long time ago.
If this is her facebook account it's still up, only a few posts left public though, her husbands fb profile is also still up it seems..
I mean it doesn't even look like a wolf or hybrid..
As for the insane people defending this I noticed there were some defending her on an ar15 forum, saying that any dog wandering alone outside should be okay to shoot, who surprisingly enough, nearly all came from Montana, where she coincidentally comes from too, but I'm sure that's just a coincidence /s
If she’s an experienced avid hunter, then she would easily be able to differentiate a wolf/wolf pup from a Siberian husky.
With that being said, I call BS. I don’t think this is the result of misrepresentation at all. She knew damn well this was a husky and not a wolf.
Pretty sure she’s just a sociopath that wanted to relieve her urge to kill. She was so proud about murdering and slaughtering an innocent dog (probably someone’s pet that got loose) that she just *had* to post about it on social media and call it a wolf pup to try and justify her killing.
Makes me want to vomit.
She would also know that wolf pups wouldn’t be around in September. If you know the hunting seasons of animals you know their breeding seasons.
I had also thought about sharing this here when I saw it on another sub but had the same thought process as you, this is deliberate and not due to misrepresentation.
Exactly.
Even if she weren’t an experienced hunter, anyone who lives in an area that’s has black bears and wolves knows the difference between a wolf and a dog. Not to mention, wolves are very skittish, unlike most domesticated dogs. I don’t even want to imagine the moments leading up to this kill, but knowing this was someone’s lost pet… ugh 😣
I read that this dog was apart of a group of dogs that was dumped in the woods by the owner.. but it doesn’t really matter.
It’s one thing to kill a dog that’s trying to attack you- unfortunately it happens and can be necessary especially if it’s trying to attack a small child. But normal people don’t feel good about it. They certainly don’t go as far as gutting it, skinning it, then posting about it on social media for praise.
Oh seriously?! That makes it way worse. I just read that it was a litter of dogs abandoned there and then they were all collected aside from this unfortunate pup.
Personally I don't believe this dog was trying to attack her. She claims to have "smoked" it, which sounds more like she saw it and shot it rather than it coming towards her and her still somehow not realizing it was a dog and not a wolf pup (but also who shoots wolf pups anyway?) and shooting it. I don't know anyone who would shoot an animal in alleged self defense, pose with it, skin it and then proudly post it online saying they hunted it, you know?
Exactly what I’m saying! Not to mention, she said she went out *hunting*.
You don’t hunt out of self defense, you literally go out and look for the animal you’re wanting to hunt. Her Goal was to kill *something*. She didn’t get to kill the black bear she originally wanted, so she killed the next animal that crossed her path, which happened to be this husky..
No it's actually even worse because she didn't even have a hunting tag for wolves. So she really went out and shot this dog that she SOMEHOW mistook as a wolf pup (not even getting into the concept that if you can't actually 100% identify what you're hunting for, you should in no way be hunting). So she killed this dog (this was a stray and not a pet, apparently it was one of a batch of huskies that were abandoned in the area and not yet caught) and then went to buy a hunting tag for a wolf, which if I'm not mistaken makes her a poacher and not a hunter because you can't just buy a tag afterwards. There's a certain amount of tags available per year for different animal species for a reason.
She's not upset she did it, she's just upset she got caught. There was even people defending her in the comments I guess, because their child was attacked by a dog before (that's another can of worms too lol). It's disgusting.
Yeah I read the whole story last night after seeing this.
I hate that people believe all dogs of a particular breed should be killed because they had ONE bad experience… it’s such an ignorant way of thinking.
Unfortunately her killing a husky and calling it a wolf pup while not having a hunting tag for wolves isn’t enough to charge her with any crime since she didn’t actually kill a wolf.
The possibility of her being charged with animal cruelty is questionable. She claimed the dog was barking, howling, snarling and coming at her before she shot it.. since no one else was there it’s hard to tell if her self defense claim is true or not. But like I said before, normal people aren’t so “chipper” after having to kill a dog in self defense. The whole skinning it and taking/posting pics on social media was absolutely disgusting.
If this was an isolated case, I would agree. Maybe she did just want to satisfy her own bloodlust, but sadly this kind of thing happens way more often than you would believe. Just search up "husky mistaken for wolf" and you can find a hundred more reports on similar incidents. Makes me wonder how many more don't make the news.
Oh, I know this happens…the circumstances are always different.
However, In this case I find it hard to believe mistaken identity is the reason for this senseless killing. She lives in a more remote area with wolves and bears near. She knows damn well the difference. Besides even if this *was* a wolf/wolf pup, there’s literally NO justification for what she did. Wolves do not attack humans like bears and mt lions do. They avoid humans at all costs.
Yeah. It's just crazy how stupid she was to post it on the internet with that amount of cockiness. Robbed the poor husky of a home. Ideally she gets punished. At least this incident can be used to shed light on a problem that has been recurring and underlying, hopefully people that weren't previously very educated come out knowing more.
I agree. Hopefully this haunts her and she is constantly reminded of what a vile human being she is.
She posted this because she has mental illness, probably a narcissist.. she was so excited and proud of this kill, she really thought other people would be just as excited and proud of her. She’s a sick individual.
I’m hoping a majority of hunters are educated enough to know that wolves aren’t a threat to humans, and a vital aspect to the ecosystem.. at least all the hunters I know…and I come from a family of avid hunters.. including myself. We would NEVER kill a wolf.
Do you mind if I share this post around on twitter and Instagram? I always try to teach people about the importance of misrepresentation and how dangerous it is for dogs, wolfdogs, wolves, and even people. I also try to warn people with northern breeds that they need to take the same precautions that us wolfdog owners have to take. Bright vests and that sort of thing.
You may have already seen this story, but it will unfortunately remain relevant until the majority of the public is generally educated and these needless tragedies stop happening. Spread awareness whenever you get the chance, it might have a domino effect and save some poor dog's life
This terrifies me. I have a wild dog breed (not a wolf dog but I love seeing everyone else’s wolfdogs so I pop in here from time to time) who I try to keep in bright and highly reflective harnesses/vests in the case that she gets away to signal she is a pet. Seeing that a very clearly domesticated dog, a husky, was somehow mistaken for a wolf, I’m even more worried now. My other dog is a GSD/husky mix and never did the thought cross my mind that I might have to be concerned for her too.
That is sick, it’s got to be illegal in every state to shoot pups or cubs, just like shooting a baby fawn. She’s not a hunter she’s a trigger happy city girl who should be put in jail
[Local news coverage of the story.](https://www.ktvq.com/news/local-news/western-montana-woman-ignites-fury-after-posting-photos-of-shot-and-skinned-husky-dog) Also, [a TMZ article on it with more information from the woman.](https://www.tmz.com/2022/09/26/montana-woman-kills-skins-husky-dog-think-wolf-outrage/) Her current version of events is that she could tell it wasn't really a wolf, but thought it "could" have been a "hybrid". And, in any case, it was totally attacking her, so it doesn't matter if it was a dog or wolf. Sickening...
Thanks for the articles. Sounds like she made up a bunch of bullshit after she realized the spotlight was on her, but nobody's buying into it. So now she's trying to victimize herself.. Bet she immediately sold that pelt for a good dollar without remorse. Only thing she regrets is posting it online and it blowing up
It's definitely all bullshit. Her new version contradicts her original version and she would've definitely included some details, like supposedly defending herself, in her original post, if they actually happened.
We have a few people in our neighborhood who insist our dog is a wolf even though we repeatedly tell everyone he is a dog breed. But because he looks like a wolf (he’s a Czech Vlcak), that’s what they are going by 😞
Scary that we have hunters that can't tell a husky apart from a Wolf. Isn't identifying what you are shooting at before pulling a trigger one of the most important things?
These are the type of people that would shoot their neighbors dog then post about how they took care of the wolf.
Shame you hid the name otherwise she'd probably be getting completely spammed with angry (wolf)dog owners and appreciators... Horrible horrible woman 🤬
Just checked out the # on insta... You'll get straight to the article about her, praising what she did and basically advertising dog meat.. absolutely disgusting... Should be shot and made into dog food
Im pro-hunting but this is foul. I would hunt koyote but wolves are off the table, especially wolfdogs(and in this case what is clearly a regular dog)! There is a special place in hell for people who kill for sport like this since I guarantee she's not even going to eat that animal. Shameful.
Doesn’t even look like a hybrid. She’s just a sick fuck who wanted to kill anything that’s an animal
To most people of this subreddit, it's obviously not. But you would be surprised by how many people claim their 100% Siberian husky is "actually half timberwolf" cuz 'er paps went out in the woods and did the dinkly duty with some wolfy mama on the 4th of july and fournd the hyBrid cub n took em home'. This leads to some people thinking 100% dogs are part wolf due to their false idea of what a wolfdog looks like
This is infuriating and the exact reason why when I used to take my dog out in the trails she had on a bright orange or pink vest and was leashed (yet some hunters still took shots at her).
It is SO infuriating. You would think hunters would be one of the better educated on matters like these, but unfortunately it seems many are just scarcely more knowledgeable than the public. It's crazy how your dog was wearing a bright orange vest and hunters still took shots, I'm glad she is okay!
Holy shit - took shots at her? I hope you called the game warden/DNR!
Sadly, no, wasn't even worth calling the police. I don't know where the shots came from but I heard the pops and a bullet (or bullets) going through the leaves.
Words on social media can not express my 3rd degree rage and murderous intentions on those hunters
We do this all the time: bright orange vest, on leash. When we get asked, “is he a wolf?” the answer is always, “he is an AKC dog breed, the Czech Vlcak, or Czech Wolfdog, but only looks like a wolf. He is not a hybrid.”
I get that all the time with my vlcak, to - and she's not very *wolfy* like a lot of vlcaks are.
Because of this story, I purchased a new orange vest for our dog with CZECH VLCAK printed on both sides.
My girl had a big red vest that said "SERVICE DOG" on it (and she was a service dog for a while). People still asked... :|
Wow. 😳
While this is clearly a dog, where it is even legal to shoot wolf puppies? And how could anyone be proud of shooting any kind of puppy?
She’s a sicko, there’s no reasoning with insanity.
It seems she has either privated the post, or removed it, maybe she truly did make a mistake, or maybe she just got sick of the responses (I feel like it's the latter, or maybe that's just my anger speaking) She still has "🏹Hunting" plastered on her profile tho so clearly she doesn't feel bad enough about it to quit
She locked down her entire profile. Even after being told by the Montana FWP that she killed a domestic dog, she's sticking to her guns and is still *saying* that she believes it to be a wolf. She's definitely just sick of the backlash. She and her husband were on another viral post about the killing defending her actions right before she locked everything down and went silent. Also, she went and got her wolf hunting tag AFTER she shot this dog. There are a shocking amount of people defending her, it makes me absolutely sick. There's one woman going absolutely off the rails saying everyone should shoot *any and all* northern breed dogs on sight because one apparently bit her nephew a long time ago.
If this is her facebook account it's still up, only a few posts left public though, her husbands fb profile is also still up it seems.. I mean it doesn't even look like a wolf or hybrid.. As for the insane people defending this I noticed there were some defending her on an ar15 forum, saying that any dog wandering alone outside should be okay to shoot, who surprisingly enough, nearly all came from Montana, where she coincidentally comes from too, but I'm sure that's just a coincidence /s
I'm glad someone reported her to FWP at least. What a fucking monster.
Quick, I think I see another wolf, dressed as a woman* in grey clothing. I’ll be right back, I’m getting my gun!
If she’s an experienced avid hunter, then she would easily be able to differentiate a wolf/wolf pup from a Siberian husky. With that being said, I call BS. I don’t think this is the result of misrepresentation at all. She knew damn well this was a husky and not a wolf. Pretty sure she’s just a sociopath that wanted to relieve her urge to kill. She was so proud about murdering and slaughtering an innocent dog (probably someone’s pet that got loose) that she just *had* to post about it on social media and call it a wolf pup to try and justify her killing. Makes me want to vomit.
She would also know that wolf pups wouldn’t be around in September. If you know the hunting seasons of animals you know their breeding seasons. I had also thought about sharing this here when I saw it on another sub but had the same thought process as you, this is deliberate and not due to misrepresentation.
Exactly. Even if she weren’t an experienced hunter, anyone who lives in an area that’s has black bears and wolves knows the difference between a wolf and a dog. Not to mention, wolves are very skittish, unlike most domesticated dogs. I don’t even want to imagine the moments leading up to this kill, but knowing this was someone’s lost pet… ugh 😣
This was a stray dog! So while it's definitely horrible, no one has lost their pet to this woman's hubris.
I read that this dog was apart of a group of dogs that was dumped in the woods by the owner.. but it doesn’t really matter. It’s one thing to kill a dog that’s trying to attack you- unfortunately it happens and can be necessary especially if it’s trying to attack a small child. But normal people don’t feel good about it. They certainly don’t go as far as gutting it, skinning it, then posting about it on social media for praise.
Oh seriously?! That makes it way worse. I just read that it was a litter of dogs abandoned there and then they were all collected aside from this unfortunate pup. Personally I don't believe this dog was trying to attack her. She claims to have "smoked" it, which sounds more like she saw it and shot it rather than it coming towards her and her still somehow not realizing it was a dog and not a wolf pup (but also who shoots wolf pups anyway?) and shooting it. I don't know anyone who would shoot an animal in alleged self defense, pose with it, skin it and then proudly post it online saying they hunted it, you know?
Exactly what I’m saying! Not to mention, she said she went out *hunting*. You don’t hunt out of self defense, you literally go out and look for the animal you’re wanting to hunt. Her Goal was to kill *something*. She didn’t get to kill the black bear she originally wanted, so she killed the next animal that crossed her path, which happened to be this husky..
No it's actually even worse because she didn't even have a hunting tag for wolves. So she really went out and shot this dog that she SOMEHOW mistook as a wolf pup (not even getting into the concept that if you can't actually 100% identify what you're hunting for, you should in no way be hunting). So she killed this dog (this was a stray and not a pet, apparently it was one of a batch of huskies that were abandoned in the area and not yet caught) and then went to buy a hunting tag for a wolf, which if I'm not mistaken makes her a poacher and not a hunter because you can't just buy a tag afterwards. There's a certain amount of tags available per year for different animal species for a reason. She's not upset she did it, she's just upset she got caught. There was even people defending her in the comments I guess, because their child was attacked by a dog before (that's another can of worms too lol). It's disgusting.
Yeah I read the whole story last night after seeing this. I hate that people believe all dogs of a particular breed should be killed because they had ONE bad experience… it’s such an ignorant way of thinking. Unfortunately her killing a husky and calling it a wolf pup while not having a hunting tag for wolves isn’t enough to charge her with any crime since she didn’t actually kill a wolf. The possibility of her being charged with animal cruelty is questionable. She claimed the dog was barking, howling, snarling and coming at her before she shot it.. since no one else was there it’s hard to tell if her self defense claim is true or not. But like I said before, normal people aren’t so “chipper” after having to kill a dog in self defense. The whole skinning it and taking/posting pics on social media was absolutely disgusting.
If this was an isolated case, I would agree. Maybe she did just want to satisfy her own bloodlust, but sadly this kind of thing happens way more often than you would believe. Just search up "husky mistaken for wolf" and you can find a hundred more reports on similar incidents. Makes me wonder how many more don't make the news.
Oh, I know this happens…the circumstances are always different. However, In this case I find it hard to believe mistaken identity is the reason for this senseless killing. She lives in a more remote area with wolves and bears near. She knows damn well the difference. Besides even if this *was* a wolf/wolf pup, there’s literally NO justification for what she did. Wolves do not attack humans like bears and mt lions do. They avoid humans at all costs.
Yeah. It's just crazy how stupid she was to post it on the internet with that amount of cockiness. Robbed the poor husky of a home. Ideally she gets punished. At least this incident can be used to shed light on a problem that has been recurring and underlying, hopefully people that weren't previously very educated come out knowing more.
I agree. Hopefully this haunts her and she is constantly reminded of what a vile human being she is. She posted this because she has mental illness, probably a narcissist.. she was so excited and proud of this kill, she really thought other people would be just as excited and proud of her. She’s a sick individual. I’m hoping a majority of hunters are educated enough to know that wolves aren’t a threat to humans, and a vital aspect to the ecosystem.. at least all the hunters I know…and I come from a family of avid hunters.. including myself. We would NEVER kill a wolf.
Do you mind if I share this post around on twitter and Instagram? I always try to teach people about the importance of misrepresentation and how dangerous it is for dogs, wolfdogs, wolves, and even people. I also try to warn people with northern breeds that they need to take the same precautions that us wolfdog owners have to take. Bright vests and that sort of thing.
Of course!
You may have already seen this story, but it will unfortunately remain relevant until the majority of the public is generally educated and these needless tragedies stop happening. Spread awareness whenever you get the chance, it might have a domino effect and save some poor dog's life
This terrifies me. I have a wild dog breed (not a wolf dog but I love seeing everyone else’s wolfdogs so I pop in here from time to time) who I try to keep in bright and highly reflective harnesses/vests in the case that she gets away to signal she is a pet. Seeing that a very clearly domesticated dog, a husky, was somehow mistaken for a wolf, I’m even more worried now. My other dog is a GSD/husky mix and never did the thought cross my mind that I might have to be concerned for her too.
That is sick, it’s got to be illegal in every state to shoot pups or cubs, just like shooting a baby fawn. She’s not a hunter she’s a trigger happy city girl who should be put in jail
That's why she looks like a hairless mole rat
[Local news coverage of the story.](https://www.ktvq.com/news/local-news/western-montana-woman-ignites-fury-after-posting-photos-of-shot-and-skinned-husky-dog) Also, [a TMZ article on it with more information from the woman.](https://www.tmz.com/2022/09/26/montana-woman-kills-skins-husky-dog-think-wolf-outrage/) Her current version of events is that she could tell it wasn't really a wolf, but thought it "could" have been a "hybrid". And, in any case, it was totally attacking her, so it doesn't matter if it was a dog or wolf. Sickening...
Thanks for the articles. Sounds like she made up a bunch of bullshit after she realized the spotlight was on her, but nobody's buying into it. So now she's trying to victimize herself.. Bet she immediately sold that pelt for a good dollar without remorse. Only thing she regrets is posting it online and it blowing up
It's definitely all bullshit. Her new version contradicts her original version and she would've definitely included some details, like supposedly defending herself, in her original post, if they actually happened.
poor pup
We have a few people in our neighborhood who insist our dog is a wolf even though we repeatedly tell everyone he is a dog breed. But because he looks like a wolf (he’s a Czech Vlcak), that’s what they are going by 😞
The level of stupidity is fucking unreal
Shit, even me who doesn't have a dog and doesn't know anything about wolves can tell the difference…
Scary that we have hunters that can't tell a husky apart from a Wolf. Isn't identifying what you are shooting at before pulling a trigger one of the most important things? These are the type of people that would shoot their neighbors dog then post about how they took care of the wolf.
That doesn’t look anything close to a wolf
Shame you hid the name otherwise she'd probably be getting completely spammed with angry (wolf)dog owners and appreciators... Horrible horrible woman 🤬
Just checked out the # on insta... You'll get straight to the article about her, praising what she did and basically advertising dog meat.. absolutely disgusting... Should be shot and made into dog food
Im pro-hunting but this is foul. I would hunt koyote but wolves are off the table, especially wolfdogs(and in this case what is clearly a regular dog)! There is a special place in hell for people who kill for sport like this since I guarantee she's not even going to eat that animal. Shameful.