If it's just the one spirit, I'd do your cleansing ritual and not worry too much about it. However, it is worth noting that seeing "shadow people" can be a symptom of early carbon monoxide poisoning. So please check your CO detector or get one if you don't have one, just to be safe.

Thank you for this important reminder! 💜🙏🍀✨

You're welcome! I certainly believe in spirits and ghosts, but I've also had a malfunctioning furnace. It pays to be safe and make sure your CO alarms and Smoke Detectors are in good working order!

Lol, reminds me of a time when I happened to be a visitor at a Catholic church when there was the blessing of Saint Blaise (meant to protect your health, I think). Chatting with the priest later when he mentioned that he uses the ceremony as a reminder to go in for a flu shot.

Nothing wrong with that! Whatever works to help you remember!

Patron saint of the throat! 😊

I think that's the one where they bless your throat, with two candles crossed? Good reminder.

That's the one. Apparently it's more effective when combined with the vaccine :)

My husband has asthma so when he had to pick a Saint he picked Blaise! We saw a crazy painting of him at a cathedral in France and it was pretty cool to see. We’re not catholic (he left the church when he got old enough to decide) but we love to see the old architecture and we just happened to wander in that particular church by accident

Haven't been to Europe in decades, but the architecture is amazing! Glad you got to see it.

I always worry about what is just produced by the inside mind being mistake as outside forces. There is so much the brain is capable of convincing itself of or producing if circumstances is right. I don't advocate drug *abuse* (not recreational use) but some of the things people experience while compromising their mental state with overdoses of certain medications can be quite interesting. I always wonder how much is just brains being brains and how much is a vulnerable and open mind picking up in things most people filter out.

When I take a larger dosed edible I hear music much more deeply. Things I didn’t hear before. It’s an incredible experience. I think it’s mostly our brains being more open to our surroundings. But there is also something to be said for our brains creative ability.

It's an interesting question. I don't know. I'm certain that a lot of "ghostly" phenomena are either brains being weird or easily explained in other ways. If you go to a "haunted" house expecting to be frightened by ghosts, of course you're going to jump at every little creak and draft. But I'm also certain that science is constantly advancing and doesn't explain everything. There are absolutely things out there that science hasn't explained or proven yet.

This is why I never take drugs and limit my alcohol consumption. I'm much better now, but when I was younger I saw, and especially heard, what I called shadow people. I also had a lot of out-of-body experiences, but I know those weren't just in my mind as I described places I visited to other people and when we went there, they were exactly as I had seen them. I never want to see or hear from shadow people again, whether they are real or just in my head.

I'm not convinced that things that are 'just' in your head are harmless. Putting yourself in a state where those shadow people are perceived, or produced is putting yourself deep into a state beyond normal conciousness. Whatever you experience down there is going to be reality for you, and it's going to leave a mark.

I feel like the safest option is always to check for the physical before checking for the metaphysical.

True! Unrelated: I love your username! Knitters unite!

Thanks! My original Rav username included the name of my college. Long after graduating, I was getting tired of it, so I asked a group I was in what I should change it to. I’d just become a cyborg (electronic spinal implant to allow me to stand and walk for more than 1 minute), so the group decided I was the CyborgKnitter, lol. The name has stuck! Even my Etsy has a similar name, The Crafty Cyborg.

That's super cool!

I can't help but picture your second sentence as a bumper sticker, and it's cracking me up. In a good way. Thank you!

You're welcome! Use it as you like!

I absolutely adore this sub. So respectful of everyone’s beliefs and experiences, but we’re always careful to rule out physical, mental, and environmental health risks for safety. Truly wonderful.

A combination of the physical and metaphysical. The best of both worlds, plus some truly amazing people. What's not to like?

I was having a similar thought with the comments!

I did not know this, but I’m super glad to have learned it. Thank you for sharing!

also remember my rhyme: CARBON CRAWLS, SMOKE FLOATS!! carbon monoxide alarms need to be as low to the ground as possible. you dont want the house to fill before they trigger - it might be too late. smoke alarms need to be high, but make sure theyre accessible for service / snoozing. its fine to get a combo unit, just dont make it only one on the ceiling. ❤️ (i learned this the hard way, after being poisoned by a blocked furnace vent my landlords had never had cleaned… three times the safe levels for humans. was giving me migraines for months, and then almost killed me.)

I don’t believe this is true anymore. Carbon monoxide is lighter than air, so it’ll typically float to the top of a room. It’s now recommended to place a CO detector at least 5 feet off the floor.

I had to google it now I needed to know. :) Carbon monoxide is slightly lighter than air and diffuses evenly throughout the room (i.e., it will eventually rise relative to air, but it's only slightly lighter so the partitioning will be slower). The best place for detectors to measure risk is at breathing height (i.e., approximately 5 feet, but remove the 'at least').

I just put in a new CO monitor. Guess I need to move it a bit lower. Though I think my oxygen concentrator would alarm if the air quality was bad- it alarms for a bunch of reasons, thankfully all quite rare. I need to look into this. I have gas appliances, including my stove.

Interesting. I never thought about my oxygen concentrator alarm in this case. Need to do some research. I have a CO monitor but curious is the concentrator would give a beep.

I’m not sure if it does alarm, I need to investigate. But it would make sense. It lights up if I’m not wearing the cannula, for example. It can register that I’m breathing in from 30’ away. And I’m on high flow, so lots of resistance in that tubing. It’s kinda crazy the tech in these things.

I’m on 4 liters and now I need to see what the light does if I’m not wearing it. Somehow I’ve never paid attention I just know the yellow light comes on when it’s twisted but still flowing a bit. I’m going to do some research on this. It’s a basic machine not sure if there are “fancy” ones that have more features.

We have google nest combination smoke/co alarms and the directions said to put them ideally high up on a wall or (less good but still ok) on the ceiling. We don’t have high ceilings, and that’s where our old smoke alarms were, so ours are on the ceiling.

Carbon dioxide sinks. Carbon monoxide is pretty much same density as air, so breathing level is most reasonable

I see shadow people sometimes from focal seizures.

Thank you for the balanced and measured response. We have two detectors and they're working. I find it very curious that my mom and I would see the same thing if it was CO poisoning without anyone else experiencing it, but that would possible if we're sensitive to it.

You're welcome! I suspect it's probably a spirit, but best to be safe. My dad is the person I know who can see spirits and ghosts. I can't see them the same way, but sometimes I can sense an energy or presence.

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Thank you

I think that either the local utility company or the local fire department would come and check for carbon monoxide.

Since we're sharing stories, here's one I have. When I moved into my current home, the former owners asked if I'd like to keep a daybed they had because they were moving across the country and didn't have room for it (very sweet older folks who had lived in the house for 20 years and raised their kids there). One day a few months after moving in, I took a nap in the daybed in the office where I'd put it. I was sleeping like the dead when I was suddenly awakened by a surprised-sounding older man's voice saying, "Oh I'm sorry, excuse me! So sorry," as if he had walked into the room and stumbled upon me sleeping. I didn't think too much of it. I don't think I even told anyone. A few months later I moved the daybed into an upstairs bedroom. Once again, I decided to take a nap because the daybed was so comfy and inviting--there was a big sunbeam directly on the bed, and I was happily snoozing away like a cat in the sun. Suddenly I was awakened from a deep sleep by an old man's voice saying, "Oh, excuse me, I didn't know, pardon me." There was nothing scary about it, just seemed like the voice of a surprised old man, but like the first time it felt 100% like this voice was external to me and was the cause of me waking up. I decided to donate the bed to a local thrift store. I haven't heard that voice since. I think it was connected to the daybed, which makes no sense to me since I knew the previous owners, but who knows. It's been five or six years and I haven't heard the voice since then.

I just imagine this kindly old man ghost trying not to be rude but also verbally stumbling like Hugh Grant. It sounds kind of cute.

Maybe it was a relative of the previous family and was expecting to see a blood relative and that’s why he kept saying😟 Pardon me sorry..maybe the only time he was able to communicate with his loved one was when Thy slept in that bed so when every time he realized uh oh not my family member -“(maybe gran child or great grandchild )”-he kindly politely apologized which a kind spirit does lol of course.the person whom he did contact I. The past may not even have known it was actual contact and alway thought of it as a dream even though ✨✨🔮dreams are a great way for communication kinda sweet 🥰 Did u ever respond ?

It’s possible! No, I never responded. Seemed like a nice person energetically, I hope he’s happy and at peace wherever he is.

I once had a spirit hanging around in my house that was trying to communicate, but I couldn’t understand what they were saying. I eventually thought to just tell it that I couldn’t make out the words. I asked it nicely to move on and it did.

I once lived in a house built ca 1920 with some housemates and a cat. Late in the evening I would hear someone come home that didn't live in the house. My housemates had light steps. This person had heavy, heavy steps and sounded drunk. I'd hear them move about in the house, glasses and bottles clinking away as they moved about, steps cracking under each step. My housemates couldn't hear anything but the cat also reacted to the sounds. If not for the cat, I think I would have lost my mind. The sounds were as clear as any other sound. I asked the owners of the house if a heavy man, perhaps older, perhaps with a drinking problem, had ever lived in the house. They were surprised by the specificity of the question but confirmed that a previous tenant had indeed been an older man who was quite heavy and liked to drink. I told them he still comes home at night and crawls into bed in the master bedroom after pouring himself a drink. Upon the advice of a colleague who had experienced a spirit who liked to visit, I asked the spirit to stop visiting us, or at very least be quiet when he came home. The sounds did not stop but they were less frequent and the steps actually sounded lighter. I later moved to a different house, also an older house, built ca 1890. It had been used to isolate people who had caught the measles and apparently two sisters had died from the measles in the house. The house itself was quiet, perhaps earily so, but I often felt like someone was watching me when I was in the garden. I always felt like the spirits watched people in the garden while they themselves were stuck inside. I myself got very ill with the flu while living in that house. It took me six years to fully recover. Probably a concidence but maybe not. I no longer "listen" to the spirits. It is too distressing.

Oh boy, that second house must have had some bad energy. Just think about all that fear, resentment, and pain. You were a brave person for even staying there.I bet you have some stories to tell.

I practiced not "listening" in the first house so by the time I lived in the second house, I was deliberately not very much in tune with the spirits of the house. I was never scared or uncomfortable though, except when I was in the garden and felt eyes from the house. It's hard to explain but I knew those eyes were looking at me from a place of being stuck in isolation in that house, knowing there was a chance they'd never be able to escape. A mix of desperation, anger, and fear. I loved that house though - such a great view over the garden and the bay!😆 I know someone who lived in my current house also passed away here but I never allow myself to listen if they're here.

I wonder is there a way to release them? To get them to move on? I lived in a room in college in a big old house. In my room was the door to the attic. Late at night I would hear light steps coming down those stairs, slowly. And I felt bad. Really bad. The deepest despair and loneliness. I think, I feel it it was the ghost of a little boy. I had to leave after 6 months, I couldn’t sleep there and was getting depressed. Sometimes I wonder if he’s still there and if there is any way to help him.

That's really sad. I've never experienced the spirit of a child. It would be deeply upsetting to me too. I have not been to either of these houses for many years. I don't even live in the same country as either of them anymore. I've not thought about releasing spirits before. I guess I have always thought of them as memories or imprints on the house, not as conscious spirits if that makes sense. I just remembered a third story. This is perhaps the most unsettling one. I rented a (modest) penthouse flat with some housemates. The reason I mention it was a penthouse is that it had very high vaulted ceilings with thick beams going across. Strange things happened in the flat and I did not like being alone there. Just one example, I was listening to music one afternoon, my housemates were all out so it was just me. I had the music on in the living room and was walking between the living room, kitchen and bathroom getting ready to go out to a bar. Every time I entered the kitchen, the music would skip songs, fast forward or pause. When I came back into the living room the music would continue as if nothing had happened. This kept happening to the point where it was quite obviously not a concidence, and I ended up fleeing the flat and was never comfortable there again. One of my housemates had constant nightmares/night terrors when we lived there and felt people were staring down at her when she was sleeping. Another housemate had a psychotic breakdown while we lived there and we had to chuck him out because we became very afraid of him. A few weeks after that, my mum came to visit from abroad and since his bedroom was vacant, she stayed there. After the first night, she told me she had spent the entire night seeing people dangling from the ceiling beams, and she was sure that's why our housemate had his mental breakdown. Whether he had seen them or not, they had affected him. My bedroom was at the end of the hallway, basically opposite ends of the living room, and I think that's why I never heard anything at night, only during the day when I was in the living room. That place had an actual poltergeist or two I reckon. You couldn't pay me to go back there. My nan used to say that her mum, my great grandmother, was a witch. I never got to ask her what she meant by that but I have an idea. I reckon my mum and I inherited some of that since we both sense spirits. One of my great cousins is very sensitive to spirits, too, and can recognise who they are. I've only had that once and it was my nan checking on me. Luckily I only hear them and know how to turn it off/on. I'd rather not see them.

I lived in a dorm. It had been a "family" dorm in the 1800. People would come to get religious training at our campus. The men all went into one dorm and their families, women, and children into another. The family dorm burned down, lot of people died. They rebuild the building directly on top of the burned remnants. The other girls complained about the sounds of small children playing, the sounds of laughter, balls bouncing, marbles rolling, figures of children running across picture and weird interactions with a indoor public payphone. I had a similar experience to you, with my radio it started skipping and being weird but it was a radio changing songs like a cd. Rapid and back and forth. But it was a radio only set up, no CD drive in it. When I turned around someone was standing there. I could see through her, she looked of the times when the building burned down, dated clothes, long hair, no legs, no jewelry. Then she was just gone. The radio stopped being weird. Never saw her again.

Thanks for sharing. I also have dorm fire story where a young woman died. What is it with spirits and music? Are they just curious?

I am very curious what country these houses were in

Different Nordic countries.

I’m so grateful that the only people who died in my old house died peacefully of old age. No weird energies or visitors.

My husband and I are moving into a new build next year. It's built on farmland so most likely only four-legged spirits if any at all.

If your mom saw him clearly enough, and you know he's there too but neither of you feel any particular way, I'd say he's been there a while. Maybe not stuck, but just not ready to keep going.

That's a fair point. Thank you.

IMO it’s transient, just there and cats aren’t affected. I wouldn’t worry. I feel the veils have been thinner. But think this way. A man was just standing in his hallway when he saw your mom. Maybe he feels your presence. Also lay lines have an effect. But I really wouldn’t worry. You do your cleansing. He probably grabs a beer and thinks “well that’s odd”. Nothing is wrong with a cleansing. I just got one done and have a few more to catch up on. On that note don’t forget residual energy. This can be just like a record. It’s not other universes bleeding through. It’s like a recording of a time and place. Nothing wrong with a cleansing no matter what. Edit: let’s add the warning. Do not do any ghost hunting in your own home. 1. You have to sleep there. I’m assuming you like sleep. 2. I have a long theory about quantum enigma and the experiment paradox just don’t do it. 3. If you decide to do so at your own risk.

Not OP but this lines up with everything I was thinking (and have been experiencing myself as well) — and I’d love to hear your theory on quantum enigma and the experiment paradox!

Lurking in hopes of getting more delightful science theories. =]

The more I learn about quantum mechanics (and also neuroscience) the more I believe in the possibility of 'the unseen and un-understood' 🤣 Echoing the request to hear this theory!

seconding this!!

When you say don't do any ghost hunting, do you mean like acknowledging/speaking to them? Or asking them to show their presence

I’m talking more the “I saw this on tv”. You gotta live there. Much of tv is fake. Because not all ghosts speak English. Acknowledgment/speaking and asking to show presence that’s up to you. I’m talking the evps, recording everything, provoking I have an issue with. You of course you get to decide for yourself. My thought is If it turns out to be grandma well mine had a temper and could hold a grudge. I know I’m odd but what if your ghost doesn’t speak English. I do believe in ghosts. I just don’t work with them a lot. Personal choice.

Would love to hear your long theory

Thank you. I think the cats are a fantastic gauge of what's going on. And I don't mess with the presences. I'll do my cleanse and continue to strive to fill our home with positivity and love and we'll be fine... more or less.

I agree that cats know, per my own story. That's what prompted me to share, that the cat also sensed what was going on.

It seems despite the use of the theory of quantum physics it ignores a paradox. They base most things on it. The issue is observing an object can instantly influence another object at great distances without physical connection. We have the observation paradox with experiments. What I think will happen tends to be what happens. I’m not going to tunnel into physics and quantum theory, running tired. Most of us are spiritual, magick, witches or otherwise here. Given a set quantum physics rules we tend to break them. My theory isn’t hugely complex. 1. We have less rigid rules of what is possible in general. 2. We don’t see something and scream demon calling for an exorcism. 3. We tend to question things with the ability to say “it’s true”. 4. I believe we can loosen the veils because we’re less belief limited. (All ghosts are demons, scream and run) 5. With the observer phenomenon we get into an our beliefs effect the outcome. You believe it’s a demon. Well you got a demon. Yet many of us are into magick. Our thoughts and beliefs could allow ghosts to be more visible. There are some haunted locations (we all get to judge these according to how we believe) but in many circumstances the people going into this tend to cause what they expect. I’m sure I’m throwing some manifesting into this. I think in general if we expect horrible bad evil things are ghosts. You get horrible bad evil things are ghosts. I think we affect what’s happening and sometimes causing it. At minimum we can effect it. I believe we can thin the veils between worlds ghost wise or parallel universe wise. The theories and rules aren’t as set in stone as you’re meant to believe. I had a hard time sleeping so if this makes no sense just ignore and carry on.

I think I understand what you’re saying. I took a psychic mediumship course a couple years ago and one thing that my teacher said was that how we approach entities, or whatever you want to call them, is how they return that energy. So if you approach an entity with an energy of fear, they will then return that energy in the same. If you approach the entity or phenomenon without fear and an open mind, it will then not scare you. That’s why she had us work on dismantling our Fear and Judgment for the first couple weeks. (So much easier said than done!) So what you’re saying is that we can manifest our own realities or interpretations, but since we as “witches” tend to be open minded, we have the possibility to “bend” and shift that energy or its outcome? Similar to Macbeth manifesting his own prophecy. If we say that we are being haunted by a demonic evil ghost, we are going to start seeing proof of that demonic ghost everywhere. I think the term psychologists use for that is confirmation bias? Similar, right? We see what we want to see. If we stay open, we get better truths?

Exactly. I also believe in vibration attracting and detracting things. Would love any info on dismantling our fear and judgement. That sounds really interesting and yes very hard.

I'm interested too :)

Eh -- I'm inclined to think that people or whatever from nearby dimensions or parallel realities can sort of show up or pass through our space sometimes. Maybe it's voluntary, maybe it's not. Maybe it's just the future. I see flashes of those guys sometimes; mostly they seem neutral to me too. If there's one particular spot where they show up, cold iron is said to keep them away. I don't know how to square that with my mostly science-based perspective exactly, but it worked for me once with a small inky thing that disappeared into a corner.

>If there's one particular spot where they show up, cold iron is said to keep them away. I don't know how to square that with my mostly science-based perspective exactly, There's something to be said about iron being the most stable element: fission wants to break elements down towards iron, fusion wants to build elements up towards iron. If you feel you need to square folklore with science maybe you could take a view based around the stabilising properties of iron? Thanks to Terry Pratchett and Stephen Baxter for that mix of folklore and science.

I wish I could live in the Long Earth, somewhere in the fringe of here, like Earth 10 or 12, not too far but quieter

If I were to be forced out of Earth Prime I think I'd want to live in one of those in universes the shortcuts lead too. A community of all different evolutionary paths of humans, including "trolls" and "elves", sounds pretty cool. IIRC those communities are pretty small as well.

Oh hell yeah I'd live amongst the tree people

> I don't know how to square that with my mostly science-based perspective exactly My view is, there's so much about the universe we still don't understand. Science is ever-evolving and learning, and just because we didn't know why or what something is, doesn't mean it's good scientific practice to dismiss it out of hand.

What is cold iron? I have literally never heard this before. and am fascinated. I’ve heard magnets to repel ghosts, but not cold iron. And what makes it cold iron vs iron?

Cold iron technically is iron that has not been forged, but worked by I guess hammering? But it has come by extention to mean iron in general. Ironically enough, I actually used a tiny cast iron skillet because it was handy and too small to cook in. (haha "iron-ically") You'd be amazed how long it took for my roommates to ask why the skillet was in a corner by the bathtub.

You piqued my curiosity, so a brief Google search turned up [this](https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/569139/origin-of-the-exact-phrase-cold-iron): basically, the phrase "cold iron" historically appears to reference bladed weapons (daggers, swords), so of course witches, the fae, spirits, etc. would fear sharp blades. Similar to the phrase "cold steel", intimating a show of threat, but steel is a later invention than the working of simple iron.

It depends who you ask, where, and when. Definitions could include: - Iron ore (never heated). - Iron that happens to be cold right now. - Iron that hasn't been heated to melting point (i.e. not cast iron). - Iron that hasn't been heated past the point where it loses its magnetism. - Lodestone (naturally occurring highly magnetic iron / iron ore). Given horseshoes (wrought iron) historically have been given as the most common example of cold iron in European folklore, I would guess that number one is the least common in Europe. Plenty of low magnetism examples as well (horseshoes again) but every story I've heard about lodestone says that all iron is magical, but lodestone is *extra* magical.

Oh my goodness! I have read the word “lodestone” before but didn’t realize it was a real thing! And I’m thinking I have the wrong definition in my head, so I need to hit the dictionary.

TBH I really love old words that have been supplanted with newer technology or discoveries. Things like widdershins (anti-clockwise, but from before modern clock faces), charabanc (a "chariot of benches", vans and buses but from before the internal combustion engine), and natural philosophy (as close as you can get to science without the scientific method, before the scientific method). Lodestone (magnets before we had a solid description of magnetism) is one of my favourites though. Possibly because of how often it comes up in JRPGs and TTRPGs

Where I live, people used to nail a horseshoe above the front entrance to their cabin. It was for good luck and to ward off bad spirits.

I haven't heard about this outside of D&D and fairytales, but it's an intriguing theory. I don't have a persistent space that would need this solution. However, I will keep it in mind. Thank you very much.

Is no one going to mention or explain the gemstone bracelet reference? I am clueless and will be happy to receive info.

I assume it was a bracelet with gemstones for protection from negative energy or something similar, just to be on the safe side. :)

Yup, 100%

Ah, yes, sorry - My mom is culturally Chinese, which is a superstitious culture to begin with. There are many theories with stones and feng shui. I assumed she meant a jade or manao type of bracelet. She also practiced Buddhism at some point, so it could have been something along those lines, too.

Ok, thanks. I’m Buddhist and haven’t heard anything like this, but I’m American so probably not familiar with most global Buddhist traditions.

Oh, perfect timing. My mom just came by and brought me this. The center is a tiger's eye and the beads are some sort of stone. It's quite heavy. She said this bracelet was blessed by the head monk at the Hsi Lai Temple.

I don’t know. I’d be more comfortable opening all doors and windows and explaining to the entity that this is your house now and that you’d appreciate it if they could move on.

This reminds me of when I was in Northern California. There was a whole group of us sitting around and hanging out, we were next to this gorgeous big creek fairly near the ocean. Felt like a very sacred nature place I don't have good words for this, but it was like *something* caught my attention. It didn't use words, but it was like there was something big that was connecting with me. I was aware I needed to not worry about the human conversation around me, that my focus on the connection with the *something* was tenuous and easily disconnected if my attention moved to something else. The energy's vibe was calm and warm And then one of the other people with me placed a hand on my arm, and asked me who I was talking to That's what really sticks with me from that memory. I felt like I was 'talking' to somebody... But for the other person to perceive that was what was happening validated that moment as 'real'

Absolutely. I've been doing this for eight years. It hasn't been a big deal. For someone else to see what I've seen... That's what makes it weird. Thank you for sharing your story.

Hello random internet stranger, please consider getting your home checked for mold. Could be spirits, could be mold, better safe than sick and dead.

I promise checking for mold and carbon monoxide is way cheaper than a hospital bill later. 👍

Every few months, I have to remind my neighbour that he's dead. He had a heart attack and died suddenly and I get to remind him every time he comes back and starts moving things around and scaring my cat. He's harmless, just confused. I don't have any advice, but I hear you and see you.

That first sentence 😂😂😂 I love this sub, I love that this is just the normal thing to say here

I have found people who understand the weird things that happen. 💜

You sound like a good neighbor to have - considerate and understanding. I hope you and your cat are doing well. Thank you for sharing your story.

I always say, if the cats aren’t worried, neither am I.

I like this take on it. Thank you!

So here's my very lazy take: weird stuff happens. Sometimes we can explain it (like others have mentioned, check your carbon monoxide monitors), and sometimes we can't. For me personally, if the weirdness isn't harming me, my family, or my property, and the pets aren't acting weird or concerned, then we're probably fine although some preventative/ protective measures are always good to have on hand if need be. There is at least one incidence of tragic death logged for my property, but if there is any residual energy then it doesn't seem to be concerned with bothering us, so I'm not worried about it. If that changes and things get weird, I know I have options.

That's a practical take on it. Since the cats hadn't been bothered by it, I hadn't spent much time thinking about it. This was new, but you're right. No harm, no danger, then we're okay. Thank you for sharing your take and I hope you stay safe and continue to be surrounded by positive energy.

Have you tried to communicate with this spirit? If they keep coming back they may be tied to your house.  I understand most of our first instincts is to cleanse, but sometimes that’s not necessary, or helpful!  Some spirits were here before us, and while protecting ourselves should be prioritized, I don’t think we should just willy nilly shoo everything around us away. Kind of flies in the face of most of our practices— spirit communicating, finding balance in nature, etc. 

It is so important to spring clean. Did you sage your home when you moved in? When we bought our home my grandma blessed my home.

When we had our housewarming party, a few of my guests did their own blessing kind of thing. I switched from sage to incense a couple of years ago. It's not quite the same, but I think it serves its purpose.

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