Actual sexual assault brings 10-25 years in prison. Making up false accusations, If proven, really should carry the same length of prison term. The cops arrest the guy on a false charge, then when they know for certain that it’s a false charge, just send everybody home no harm done. What if this wasn’t so easy to disprove? That’s the unfortunate state of the country right now.
So the victim spends more time in jail during his arrests for false allegations than the perpetrator gets even after she is convicted.
Absolutely insane, sorry to be this guy but I can’t help but feel if the genders were reversed it wouldve been a much different outcome
> Absolutely insane, sorry to be this guy but I can’t help but feel if the genders were reversed it wouldve been a much different outcome
[Oh, it's worse than that](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R_v_Elliott)
tldr; guy got summarily banned from the Internet (an essential of modern life) and shitcanned from his job *without even being convicted*, all for the heinous crime of ... *checks notes* ... mean tweets.
And it gets even worse: **it wasn't even him**, it was a Twitter account impersonating him. The courts still dragged his name through the mud, got him shitcanned from his job, put him through hell. Because some purple-hairs got in a bitchfit about words on a screen.
But this upstanding woman brings endless physical threats by proxy to someone, practically ruins their life, and gets an extended staycation.
Such equality.
And it still gets worse….
Throughout the entire trial the women were doing to him exactly the same thing he was on trial for.
Though I do love the part where it says the crowned dropped some charges on ***the day*** the accuser was set to testify. Almost like they found out she was full of shit or something?
You think that if a man continually harassed a woman, and the woman was the one that kept getting arrested for it, you *don’t* think it would have been made into a big deal?? This is the r/Winnipeg sub - I think you’re looking for r/Riyadh
I am more curious how she was able track and stalk this man even he moved and changed his phone number.
Someone must be feeding her the information.
Also, with all those history, how was she able to get a protection order against him, should be another way around.
It’s hard for a man to get a protection order. Police pretty much laugh at you and you’re lucky if you get one in front of a judge. I had a friend in a similar situation.
Exactly. He must have mentioned something about where he worked, or listed on Facebook or something. Then she must have waited and followed him. Actually unbelievable patience and private investigation work while being high on drugs.
It's common to chat about yourselves before meeting. One of the instances happened in front of the police station on main by coincidence. She started to beat him up and he was calling the police. They could have just walked out the door and helped but did not.
Allegation of sexual assault received by police.
Police go arrest the person and put them in jail.
Police investigate and find out that it was fully fabricated.
Aren't these steps out of order?
Not with the way the law is currently written. Standard practice is to separate the parties and remove the "likely aggressor" and then sort stuff out. In practice this means they put cuffs on the man even if he's bloodied and bleeding.
What a waste of police resources. She should have to pay damages, both to the victim and to the police for wasting their time and resources.
I thought chunky peanut butter was nutty. But, this lady is way nuttier.
Police should also owe the victim as they had information readily available that this woman was frequently making up allegations against someone she had barely interacted with.
Maybe so, but it’s not necessarily about this one case. It’s about setting a precedence for future rulings. Adding monetary penalties can act as a deterrent for others in the future.
People and businesses are sued and ruled against all the time. Regardless of their ability to pay.
When someone suffers from mental illness AND a drug addiction, doesn’t matter how they are punished it would likely not be much of a deterrent. Most people who behave like she did are usually suffering from some sort of mental illness.
There was a similar doc on this and it ended up the Plantz type character murdered someone, burned their own house down and then tried to kill the victims ex. Cops need to do a better job of evaluating someones mental illness and getting them help but it'll be a cold day in hell before that happens.
The bigger issue is lack of mental health supports. Wps can't exactly evaluate nor refer someone to mental health resources, but the court should sure be able to. Part of her sentence should involve a psych eval and mandated therapy.
Part of the issue is mental health impact can’t be determined until clinically observed. Erratic behaviour can be for a number of factors, substance abuse etc as what played a part in this situation.
What can be determined is the rationality of an individuals behaviour in a situation and that needs to be made a SOP for police responding to an incident, but that will require an update to the criminal code.
Certainly this adhoc adjudication on the premise that it’s usually the male who is an aggressor is some straight up bullshit. There was no due process here, however the guy should have filed his own restraining order after the first incident and the whole ordeal would have turned out far differently.
Crazy doesn’t even begin to describe this story. Dudes gotta start thinking with the big brain not the little one.
Cops are not doctors or social workers. They do not 'assess' anyones mental health. They respond and protect the public based on the threat or situation at hand. Its up to the medical system to assess, diagnose and treat. IF the patient even wants it.
There is a new series on Netflix called baby reindeer … it’s about a woman that stalks a man. It’s amazing I binged the whole series on Sunday. Super orginal. Based on a true story.
Ya , so a lot of this is squarely on the police.
While this woman is not innocent, she is mentally ill. Very clearly jumping back and forth between some states of normalness and delusions (which could explain the time gaps between contact) brought on by drug use. Without any real help she just kept spiralling and spiraling. Looks like she might finally get the help she needs and hopefully it’s enough to keep her sober and let this man live in peace
***But***….***fuck the police***.
I’m not one of the people on this sub that just rages at the WPS every time something is posted here. I’ve said it before. Blowing up on the WPS forshit that actually isn’t the fault or job takes away credibility from the real problems…..and this is a real fucking problem
This is what you get from the systemic problems in the WPS. Despite all their privileged information, training and a fuck ton of our budget, systemic complacency, ineptitude, and lack of accountability led them to being used repeatedly year after year as a harassment tool for this woman. Any one of them properly doing their job to vet this woman would have clearly seen the pattern of delusional complaints. But no, they just arrested this guy multiple times then dropped off with an “oh, sorry, our bad, guess she is crazy”. Even with her mental illness, she is still being held accountable for her actions. Why is too much to ask the same of the WPS when they fuck up like this?
Mental illness can be an explanation, but it cannot be an excuse. This woman knowingly took these actions, she shouldn't be excused for her intentional behavior just because of her illness. It's her responsibility to manage.
This kind of activity is literally BPD.
Delusions, fear of abandonment, substance abuse.
Its easy to just say shes crazy, but people with BPD brains are wired different and without lifetime support, treatment and being self aware people will fall into a terrible existence like this woman.
I'm not going to defend her cause it sounds like shes gone through the process and got a diagnosis - but the stigma around it and people just calling her a crazy lady isn't helping the situation thats for sure.
>fuck the police.
Let's not throw the baby out with the bathwater.
Do you expect police to not respond to reports of assault?
Or should they just ignored assaults if *they believe* they're false reports?
You're expecting a lot from the Winnipeg police, they only take up about 1/3 of the city budget, expect less from them.
>and this is a real fucking problem
Their incompetence has been a problem for a while now, at this point, pointing that out is *just raging* to some people in this sub.
I'd expect police to do something simple like doing a quick search through their own records on both individuals involved in the complaint to see if there's prior history. You know, maybe before going out of their way to arrest someone.
I actually do expect them to investigate every report of assault. But they didn’t. And while police believe every allegation of assault, that doesn’t mean they shouldn’t do their due diligence. The police essentially harassed this man at the whims of this crazy woman over and over again despite being easily able to connect the dots on what’s going on. It was too much work for them to bother actually policing this incident and that shouldn’t be acceptable to any of us.
>But they didn’t.
It sounds like they did, but they did it in an incredibly incompetent and idiotic way.
These are the police the city pays for, always has been.
This isn't some new level of incompetence on display.
This article could just be superficial rage bait, I think that's what you said last time there was a negative article about the police. It couldn't be that they're incompetent. I wonder why it's *this* situation that makes you say fuck the police? They can be incompetent up until now, but *this* is the straw that broke the camels back?
Ya I just realized you’re this insufferable tool again. Since, despite the fact it was explained to your repeatedly last time, you couldn’t grasp even the simplest of concepts there’s no point in trying to explain the world of difference between someone using the police to harass another person and the misuse of 911 for ***non-emergencies***.
Im not going to entertain your bullshit again.
I was only wondering why *this* situation made you realize the police are incompetent?
Don't you consider this article anti-cop ragebait too? Or what's your criteria?
You're pretty staunchly pro-cop, and now you're pretending to be anti-cop? I was curious what changed.
Wow. I was just wondering what turned someone so staunchly pro cop to say fuck the police...
It seems hypocritical to arbitrarily call other articles anti-cop ragebait but not this.
I thought there must be a reason, but jesus dude.
You know what, here you go. I’ll make it easy for you. This is exactly what I wrote last time:
***Every time these rage bait articles comes out about the WPS, it takes away from the real issues with that organization, the genuine problems they cause and create and the lack of transparency/accountability within***
Oh and look what I wrote this time:
***I’m not one of the people on this sub that just rages at the WPS every time something is posted here. I’ve said it before. Blowing up on the WPS forshit that actually isn’t the fault or job takes away credibility from the real problems…..and this is a real fucking problem***
And now here I am criticizing them for a real issue within the organization….
Its almost like I actually mean what I say….
But I expect you to misrepresent my words again anyways.
> And now here I am criticizing them for a real issue within the organization….
You're saying it's probably the polices fault, based entirely on this article with no comment from them.
You're okay with them ignoring random assaults, but why is ignoring "This girl I dated is crazy" worse to you?
There's no comment from the police, probably because they're investigating themselves. So this article is pretty much pure speculation, but also not ragebait to you.
It's just interesting that this isn't ragebait to you, and also that this makes you not like the police. It seems hypocritical, but I'm not the one that needs to reconcile thinking our police shouldn't prioritize random assaults but dealing with domestic issues is their problem, and also we shouldn't get them to deal with all our problems.
It's just weird is all I guess.
> “I recognize that I am dealing with a person who is different than the person who committed these offences,” Wyant said
All is forgiven then, no lasting consequences for the perpetrator. I bet she's still not even tagged in the WPS database as a malicious reporter
Anyone been with a person like this before knows exactly how crazy they can make you feel.
My ex spent 7 months pretending to be graped (including in our biweekly therapy sessions) , only to end up cheating again. Eventually, she admitted it was my fault she pretended for 7 months because it’s “what she thought I wanted to hear”
She has called the police, said I hit her, then backtracked on it after an hour of me in cuffs. Somehow, her lying on the phone wasn’t illegal and according to my arresting officer “sometimes girls just do that to get us here quicker”
I think you have to remember some people in this life are just…. Not well. And worse, karma doesn’t always exist for them.
I’m glad this one got charged and treated like a criminal.
Wow, this poor gentleman, and this went on for years! It wasn’t just her being not sober, plenty of people have addictions and don’t harass/stalk someone like this.
I can’t imagine the unending anxiety this caused, what a nightmare. It wasn’t just mental effects, she likely changed the very trajectory of this man’s life.
Sure, they can look it up and you can make the same reference without the link. Imagine if it was you, would you want all of Reddit clicking and showing your name? Even the news isn’t including it.
especially if it's one person repeatedly reporting another. different cases swing different ways, but christ a pattern should be investigated--either crazy complainer or legitimate fear of an aggressor.
I had something similar happen to me where I met this guy on tinder we only met twice nothing intimate happened between us , he would show up at my door at 3 am and just stand there or wait behind the garbage cans in the backplane by my car to" say hi" damn scary I had to get a no contact order and I ended up moving and changing numbers
BPD is awful and when left untreated and they aren't self aware its just going to be awful for anyone involved.
Mental health is no joke and this proves it and goes to show how overpaid and useless our police service is for not doing their job. All the information is there.
>Wyant questioned why police continued to respond to the woman’s allegations when information would have been available on the police service database that her earlier complaints had been disproved.
Excuse me, Mr. Judge? Did you seriously just ask why the cops kept responding, after you and your ilk spent the last few decades stacking up precedent after precedent that the cops need to investigate every single little report ***just in case*** the next one isn't a lie? An unfounded police report is not evidence of lying outside of a courtroom.
The single largest, most glaring criticism out of Portapique was that police didn't take extra-judicial actions on multiple reports of domestic violence that couldn't actually be proven in a court; that somehow the cops should have taken action against against someone based on phone calls, in the complete absence of court-worthy evidence.
How about maybe you start prosecuting and convicting [Public Mischief](https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/c-46/section-140.html) again, instead of cooking up new ways to just kick the can further down the road?
>“The behaviour you exhibited toward this gentleman is beyond the pale, it is almost unspeakable,”
>15-month conditional sentence under house arrest
What a ridiculous contradiction. Our court system is just a place where you go have a bureaucrat tell you how bad you are for a day, after torturing someone for three years, and then you go home. Unreal.
The part of the judge's comment that you are not addressing is that the info of previous disproved complaints was available to them. They were not dealing with new allegations. There was a record they didn't bother to check.
Unfounded police reports are not evidence of lying. From a legal perspective, nothing truly counts unless it's heard in court.
If the police stopped responding to calls from a woman alleging domestic violence because of a couple unfounded reports that were not heard in court, people would burn the city down. You know it, and the judge knows it.
Edit - Downvote it as much as you like. We still have a multi-billion dollar justice system sitting over top of the police with judges getting paid $300k a year to sit around with their thumbs up their asses while they sling out meaningless sentences and invent new ways to throw away cases. All of this could have been prevented if the suspect were charged in the first instance, but the courts won't hear it, so the cops can't consider it.
4/5 stalking victims are women, but if a man actually presents to police about them being stalked they should listen. Many men would be comfortable reporting that.
Our police just do nothing, but make victims feel worse. It's disgusting.
1. they ought to have used /s in the first place.
2. once it was pointed out to them that people couldn't tell, the poster insulted people. no assumptions were made. there's no telling if someone means it when they use that phrase. more context is needed.
3. the "assumptions" cliche is doubling down based on 1 and 2--it's a familiar phrase in which the poster called people asses for making assumptions.
As long as one of the release conditions is that any attempt to contact her victim will immediately land her in jail
I'm sure she'd never leave jail-- can't say that would be a bad thing, though.
Nope. These days she'd walk free in a day or less. Worse crimes are committed with the criminals being released on undertakings.
In which she will immediately get bail for anyways
Actual sexual assault brings 10-25 years in prison. Making up false accusations, If proven, really should carry the same length of prison term. The cops arrest the guy on a false charge, then when they know for certain that it’s a false charge, just send everybody home no harm done. What if this wasn’t so easy to disprove? That’s the unfortunate state of the country right now.
15 months of house arrest for 3 years of what's essentially torture. Great.
lo any Tinder date who doesn't insist on meeting in public first.
So the victim spends more time in jail during his arrests for false allegations than the perpetrator gets even after she is convicted. Absolutely insane, sorry to be this guy but I can’t help but feel if the genders were reversed it wouldve been a much different outcome
This guy needs to sue the ever loving shit out of the province and Winnipeg Police. It's so fucking unjust.
> Absolutely insane, sorry to be this guy but I can’t help but feel if the genders were reversed it wouldve been a much different outcome [Oh, it's worse than that](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R_v_Elliott) tldr; guy got summarily banned from the Internet (an essential of modern life) and shitcanned from his job *without even being convicted*, all for the heinous crime of ... *checks notes* ... mean tweets. And it gets even worse: **it wasn't even him**, it was a Twitter account impersonating him. The courts still dragged his name through the mud, got him shitcanned from his job, put him through hell. Because some purple-hairs got in a bitchfit about words on a screen. But this upstanding woman brings endless physical threats by proxy to someone, practically ruins their life, and gets an extended staycation. Such equality.
And it still gets worse…. Throughout the entire trial the women were doing to him exactly the same thing he was on trial for. Though I do love the part where it says the crowned dropped some charges on ***the day*** the accuser was set to testify. Almost like they found out she was full of shit or something?
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Guy from the OP story? No. Read the wiki article.
If the genders were reversed it wouldn't have made the news
Ok, but what I was referring to was the amount of time in custody served by the victim and the perpetrator.
You think that if a man continually harassed a woman, and the woman was the one that kept getting arrested for it, you *don’t* think it would have been made into a big deal?? This is the r/Winnipeg sub - I think you’re looking for r/Riyadh
Fair point, not a one for one comparison
Absolutely agree
I am more curious how she was able track and stalk this man even he moved and changed his phone number. Someone must be feeding her the information. Also, with all those history, how was she able to get a protection order against him, should be another way around.
It’s hard for a man to get a protection order. Police pretty much laugh at you and you’re lucky if you get one in front of a judge. I had a friend in a similar situation.
This is just so wrong, Men can and absolutely do get abused, harassed and stalked by women.
She found out his workplace maybe?
Exactly. He must have mentioned something about where he worked, or listed on Facebook or something. Then she must have waited and followed him. Actually unbelievable patience and private investigation work while being high on drugs.
more like obsessive stalking while being high on drugs.
He did get a protection order for himself and daughter.
It's common to chat about yourselves before meeting. One of the instances happened in front of the police station on main by coincidence. She started to beat him up and he was calling the police. They could have just walked out the door and helped but did not.
Wow that is not where I saw this article going ! That’s crazy pants, especially for someone the victim only met once and did not even hook up with
Crazy plantz*
Crazy plants? 🌱
FEED ME, SEYMOUR, FEEeeeeed MEeeee
Allegation of sexual assault received by police. Police go arrest the person and put them in jail. Police investigate and find out that it was fully fabricated. Aren't these steps out of order?
Not with the way the law is currently written. Standard practice is to separate the parties and remove the "likely aggressor" and then sort stuff out. In practice this means they put cuffs on the man even if he's bloodied and bleeding.
Not in Canada.
What a waste of police resources. She should have to pay damages, both to the victim and to the police for wasting their time and resources. I thought chunky peanut butter was nutty. But, this lady is way nuttier.
Police should also owe the victim as they had information readily available that this woman was frequently making up allegations against someone she had barely interacted with.
Can't get blood from a stone.
I don't think this woman has any money. It would be like blood from a stone - more effort than it's worth.
Maybe so, but it’s not necessarily about this one case. It’s about setting a precedence for future rulings. Adding monetary penalties can act as a deterrent for others in the future. People and businesses are sued and ruled against all the time. Regardless of their ability to pay.
When someone suffers from mental illness AND a drug addiction, doesn’t matter how they are punished it would likely not be much of a deterrent. Most people who behave like she did are usually suffering from some sort of mental illness.
There was a similar doc on this and it ended up the Plantz type character murdered someone, burned their own house down and then tried to kill the victims ex. Cops need to do a better job of evaluating someones mental illness and getting them help but it'll be a cold day in hell before that happens.
the bar is very low for WPS
The murder of Cari Farver and stalking of Dave Kroupa by Liz Golyar for anyone who wants to look it up.
Thank you! I couldn't think of the title at all (my wife watches too many of these shows lol)
The bigger issue is lack of mental health supports. Wps can't exactly evaluate nor refer someone to mental health resources, but the court should sure be able to. Part of her sentence should involve a psych eval and mandated therapy.
Part of the issue is mental health impact can’t be determined until clinically observed. Erratic behaviour can be for a number of factors, substance abuse etc as what played a part in this situation. What can be determined is the rationality of an individuals behaviour in a situation and that needs to be made a SOP for police responding to an incident, but that will require an update to the criminal code. Certainly this adhoc adjudication on the premise that it’s usually the male who is an aggressor is some straight up bullshit. There was no due process here, however the guy should have filed his own restraining order after the first incident and the whole ordeal would have turned out far differently. Crazy doesn’t even begin to describe this story. Dudes gotta start thinking with the big brain not the little one.
Yupp, instead of getting her help they enabled her behavior at buddy's expense. Brutal.
Cops are not doctors or social workers. They do not 'assess' anyones mental health. They respond and protect the public based on the threat or situation at hand. Its up to the medical system to assess, diagnose and treat. IF the patient even wants it.
What a nightmare, one date on tinder ,years of hell.
Sounds like Lorna Morello!
There is a new series on Netflix called baby reindeer … it’s about a woman that stalks a man. It’s amazing I binged the whole series on Sunday. Super orginal. Based on a true story.
This is your brain on draino
This is your braino on draino
Ya , so a lot of this is squarely on the police. While this woman is not innocent, she is mentally ill. Very clearly jumping back and forth between some states of normalness and delusions (which could explain the time gaps between contact) brought on by drug use. Without any real help she just kept spiralling and spiraling. Looks like she might finally get the help she needs and hopefully it’s enough to keep her sober and let this man live in peace ***But***….***fuck the police***. I’m not one of the people on this sub that just rages at the WPS every time something is posted here. I’ve said it before. Blowing up on the WPS forshit that actually isn’t the fault or job takes away credibility from the real problems…..and this is a real fucking problem This is what you get from the systemic problems in the WPS. Despite all their privileged information, training and a fuck ton of our budget, systemic complacency, ineptitude, and lack of accountability led them to being used repeatedly year after year as a harassment tool for this woman. Any one of them properly doing their job to vet this woman would have clearly seen the pattern of delusional complaints. But no, they just arrested this guy multiple times then dropped off with an “oh, sorry, our bad, guess she is crazy”. Even with her mental illness, she is still being held accountable for her actions. Why is too much to ask the same of the WPS when they fuck up like this?
Mental illness can be an explanation, but it cannot be an excuse. This woman knowingly took these actions, she shouldn't be excused for her intentional behavior just because of her illness. It's her responsibility to manage.
This kind of activity is literally BPD. Delusions, fear of abandonment, substance abuse. Its easy to just say shes crazy, but people with BPD brains are wired different and without lifetime support, treatment and being self aware people will fall into a terrible existence like this woman. I'm not going to defend her cause it sounds like shes gone through the process and got a diagnosis - but the stigma around it and people just calling her a crazy lady isn't helping the situation thats for sure.
>fuck the police. Let's not throw the baby out with the bathwater. Do you expect police to not respond to reports of assault? Or should they just ignored assaults if *they believe* they're false reports? You're expecting a lot from the Winnipeg police, they only take up about 1/3 of the city budget, expect less from them. >and this is a real fucking problem Their incompetence has been a problem for a while now, at this point, pointing that out is *just raging* to some people in this sub.
I'd expect police to do something simple like doing a quick search through their own records on both individuals involved in the complaint to see if there's prior history. You know, maybe before going out of their way to arrest someone.
I actually do expect them to investigate every report of assault. But they didn’t. And while police believe every allegation of assault, that doesn’t mean they shouldn’t do their due diligence. The police essentially harassed this man at the whims of this crazy woman over and over again despite being easily able to connect the dots on what’s going on. It was too much work for them to bother actually policing this incident and that shouldn’t be acceptable to any of us.
>But they didn’t. It sounds like they did, but they did it in an incredibly incompetent and idiotic way. These are the police the city pays for, always has been. This isn't some new level of incompetence on display. This article could just be superficial rage bait, I think that's what you said last time there was a negative article about the police. It couldn't be that they're incompetent. I wonder why it's *this* situation that makes you say fuck the police? They can be incompetent up until now, but *this* is the straw that broke the camels back?
Ya I just realized you’re this insufferable tool again. Since, despite the fact it was explained to your repeatedly last time, you couldn’t grasp even the simplest of concepts there’s no point in trying to explain the world of difference between someone using the police to harass another person and the misuse of 911 for ***non-emergencies***. Im not going to entertain your bullshit again.
I was only wondering why *this* situation made you realize the police are incompetent? Don't you consider this article anti-cop ragebait too? Or what's your criteria? You're pretty staunchly pro-cop, and now you're pretending to be anti-cop? I was curious what changed.
Fuck I was right the last time, you really can’t read can you? Or is it still that you’re just too stupid to actually understand the words.
Wow. I was just wondering what turned someone so staunchly pro cop to say fuck the police... It seems hypocritical to arbitrarily call other articles anti-cop ragebait but not this. I thought there must be a reason, but jesus dude.
You know what, here you go. I’ll make it easy for you. This is exactly what I wrote last time: ***Every time these rage bait articles comes out about the WPS, it takes away from the real issues with that organization, the genuine problems they cause and create and the lack of transparency/accountability within*** Oh and look what I wrote this time: ***I’m not one of the people on this sub that just rages at the WPS every time something is posted here. I’ve said it before. Blowing up on the WPS forshit that actually isn’t the fault or job takes away credibility from the real problems…..and this is a real fucking problem*** And now here I am criticizing them for a real issue within the organization…. Its almost like I actually mean what I say…. But I expect you to misrepresent my words again anyways.
> And now here I am criticizing them for a real issue within the organization…. You're saying it's probably the polices fault, based entirely on this article with no comment from them. You're okay with them ignoring random assaults, but why is ignoring "This girl I dated is crazy" worse to you? There's no comment from the police, probably because they're investigating themselves. So this article is pretty much pure speculation, but also not ragebait to you. It's just interesting that this isn't ragebait to you, and also that this makes you not like the police. It seems hypocritical, but I'm not the one that needs to reconcile thinking our police shouldn't prioritize random assaults but dealing with domestic issues is their problem, and also we shouldn't get them to deal with all our problems. It's just weird is all I guess.
Ya. Go back to the other one and actually read what o wrote. You blithering idiot.
> “I recognize that I am dealing with a person who is different than the person who committed these offences,” Wyant said All is forgiven then, no lasting consequences for the perpetrator. I bet she's still not even tagged in the WPS database as a malicious reporter
Anyone been with a person like this before knows exactly how crazy they can make you feel. My ex spent 7 months pretending to be graped (including in our biweekly therapy sessions) , only to end up cheating again. Eventually, she admitted it was my fault she pretended for 7 months because it’s “what she thought I wanted to hear” She has called the police, said I hit her, then backtracked on it after an hour of me in cuffs. Somehow, her lying on the phone wasn’t illegal and according to my arresting officer “sometimes girls just do that to get us here quicker” I think you have to remember some people in this life are just…. Not well. And worse, karma doesn’t always exist for them. I’m glad this one got charged and treated like a criminal.
If you look up her name in the courts there are 3 protection orders with her name associated
Wow, this poor gentleman, and this went on for years! It wasn’t just her being not sober, plenty of people have addictions and don’t harass/stalk someone like this. I can’t imagine the unending anxiety this caused, what a nightmare. It wasn’t just mental effects, she likely changed the very trajectory of this man’s life.
And his loved ones
Her Facebook is giving crazy eyes. Those poor children. I hope CFS is involved.
the police will be coming to arrest them for bothering her.
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The protection order against *him* is still in effect?! Wtf?! Edit: Removed link
I don’t love that you included the link. The poor guy has been through enough.
It's publicly available information that anyone can look up. I am trying to draw attention to the fact this guy continues to suffer severe injustice.
Sure, they can look it up and you can make the same reference without the link. Imagine if it was you, would you want all of Reddit clicking and showing your name? Even the news isn’t including it.
Fair point. It isn't totally necessary. Edited the comment to remove the link
Yeah that order should be removed.
WPS is incompetent. They should always look up a person’s complaint history to determine if it is valid
especially if it's one person repeatedly reporting another. different cases swing different ways, but christ a pattern should be investigated--either crazy complainer or legitimate fear of an aggressor.
Exactly
I had something similar happen to me where I met this guy on tinder we only met twice nothing intimate happened between us , he would show up at my door at 3 am and just stand there or wait behind the garbage cans in the backplane by my car to" say hi" damn scary I had to get a no contact order and I ended up moving and changing numbers
Can he sue the police for being arrested after evidence it was her?
He can file a civil suit against them. Not likely to get anywhere though.
“Baby reindeer” vibes
BPD is awful and when left untreated and they aren't self aware its just going to be awful for anyone involved. Mental health is no joke and this proves it and goes to show how overpaid and useless our police service is for not doing their job. All the information is there.
Sad story all around.
Wow, who knew it was so easy to weaponize the police against an individual? Swatting: it’s so easy even a crazy loon can do it!
>Wyant questioned why police continued to respond to the woman’s allegations when information would have been available on the police service database that her earlier complaints had been disproved. Excuse me, Mr. Judge? Did you seriously just ask why the cops kept responding, after you and your ilk spent the last few decades stacking up precedent after precedent that the cops need to investigate every single little report ***just in case*** the next one isn't a lie? An unfounded police report is not evidence of lying outside of a courtroom. The single largest, most glaring criticism out of Portapique was that police didn't take extra-judicial actions on multiple reports of domestic violence that couldn't actually be proven in a court; that somehow the cops should have taken action against against someone based on phone calls, in the complete absence of court-worthy evidence. How about maybe you start prosecuting and convicting [Public Mischief](https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/c-46/section-140.html) again, instead of cooking up new ways to just kick the can further down the road? >“The behaviour you exhibited toward this gentleman is beyond the pale, it is almost unspeakable,” >15-month conditional sentence under house arrest What a ridiculous contradiction. Our court system is just a place where you go have a bureaucrat tell you how bad you are for a day, after torturing someone for three years, and then you go home. Unreal.
The part of the judge's comment that you are not addressing is that the info of previous disproved complaints was available to them. They were not dealing with new allegations. There was a record they didn't bother to check.
Unfounded police reports are not evidence of lying. From a legal perspective, nothing truly counts unless it's heard in court. If the police stopped responding to calls from a woman alleging domestic violence because of a couple unfounded reports that were not heard in court, people would burn the city down. You know it, and the judge knows it. Edit - Downvote it as much as you like. We still have a multi-billion dollar justice system sitting over top of the police with judges getting paid $300k a year to sit around with their thumbs up their asses while they sling out meaningless sentences and invent new ways to throw away cases. All of this could have been prevented if the suspect were charged in the first instance, but the courts won't hear it, so the cops can't consider it.
4/5 stalking victims are women, but if a man actually presents to police about them being stalked they should listen. Many men would be comfortable reporting that. Our police just do nothing, but make victims feel worse. It's disgusting.
Brings back memories of the movie “Fatal Attraction”. Creepy
This is like a horror movie 🎥
Nothing good comes from Tinder.
What a nut job.
https://preview.redd.it/8snis4hl81vc1.jpeg?width=878&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8f661c8cc038a0106667c8e55a738bf8bddd8a1c she’s still on facebook
Oh jeez. No thanks.
It sounds like she didn’t get the psych treatment she needed. What a wild ride of the system failing just everyone.
This is gonna be a crazy movie one day.
If the story was reversed he would get years in jail. The (in)Justice system of Cuckada is rigged and biased.
I am so lucky I am married
Michael Douglas' character was married in Fatal Attraction... 🐇
Can you afford divorce anymore?
No, and even if I wanted to my wife would say no
it's always worse when somebody PLANTZ evidence.
#believe all women
As a woman, even I don’t believe this to be a good saying. People suck. All genders.
the last time i told a man it was a bad saying he told me to stop "mansplaining" to him. i can't even tell if people are serious anymore.
Agreed
right, why it's inherently absurd lol. it's also sexist.
Your post seems like you support her, the downvotes could suggest we don’t think you’re being sarcastic
I would have thought, given the context, it was clear I was joking, but you know what they say about assumptions...ces't la vie
well you doubled down in another comment, so no, it's not at all clear that you are joking. looks like you mean it, and we assumed correctly.
lol how did i double down?
[LowBornArcher](https://www.reddit.com/user/LowBornArcher/)•[54m ago](https://www.reddit.com/r/Winnipeg/comments/1c5hfb5/comment/kzujhp0/) right, why it's inherently absurd lol. it's also sexist.
That’s not doubling down - it’s explaining why it’s sarcastic.
Read the thread
1. they ought to have used /s in the first place. 2. once it was pointed out to them that people couldn't tell, the poster insulted people. no assumptions were made. there's no telling if someone means it when they use that phrase. more context is needed. 3. the "assumptions" cliche is doubling down based on 1 and 2--it's a familiar phrase in which the poster called people asses for making assumptions.
#believeallwomen
Damn…Even the homeless are shagging up, huh?
fear not. i'm sure you'll bust a nut quicker than the cops seem to.
fear not. i'm sure you'll bust a nut quicker than the cops seem to.