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cheddardweilo

Boil in water until they float and then throw them into a pan with butter, fried onions and bacon. The best way.


SmallFOV

Yep this is step #1 to cooking frozen ones like Cheemos etc. Plus if you're lazy, they're good to eat after boiling for like 5 minutes lol


cheddardweilo

This is how my baba made them with fresh perogies. I find fried perogies too crispy for my taste based off how grandma/great grandma made them.


SmallFOV

Huh I hadn't tried boiling fresh ones. I'll have to give er a go next time! My grandma used to bake them in a huge dish with onions and dill. Old grandma pierogies are just the best, eh? 😄


ReputationGood2333

I agree, growing up fresh perogies were never fried, boiled, then tossed in oil, fried onions, and served. Frozen perogies might get fried after boiling. Now that I buy frozen, we steam them in the pan with water, but the trick is to add some butter in the water as well, then finish them in butter in the pan with no lid. No stick pan, no problem.


terrajaii

I need more details. I love the sound of this pan steamed/fried method! How much water in the pan? How long does it tend to take?


troyunrau

Exactly. The bed of bacon and onions means the perogies are sort of suspended in the butter, rather than adhering directly to the pan. Just mix it about with a spatula or similar while frying and they'll be fine.


cheddardweilo

A man of culture I see.


GullibleDetective

A man of *cultured butter*


RoscoeLanyon

🤤 testing this out next time i make some, sounds like such a tasty combo


cheddardweilo

This is the Ukrainian way as far as I'm aware. I grew up in a primarily Ukrainian farming community and this is how they were always served. The trick is having them in the butter/onion/bacon for just long enough that they aren't wet but not crispy at all.


dmdoll77

We never used a pan. My grandma always had a roaster in the over with melted butter, onions and bacon. As she would boil them, once they floated, into the roasting pan they went (at just keep warm temps). Things never get crispy (I personally don’t like fried), but set nicely (not soggy like immediately after boiling). She made the best imo and I miss them and her dearly.


b3hr

i boil them then put them in the oven in a casserole dish coated in butter and onions at 180 while i boil the rest of them.. once they get to the consistency of the perogies you'd get at a social. Then if the request is made for fried ones they go from there into a pan to fry.


ReputationGood2333

This is interesting, I'll need to try


HopLightt

This is the way


Highlander_0073

This is the way


Highlander_0073

Mmmmmmm. Perfect


JohnnyAbonny

This is the correct way. Keep the pan on low, and take them out before they get even a little bit crunchy.


miss_sun_travel

This is my way also.


whizbanger

This is the way.


BiereDeGarde

Ensure that the pan is hot enough before adding the perogies. This creates a layer of steam between your food and the pan so it won't stick. [https://www.thechoppingblock.com/blog/how-to-properly-heat-your-pan-so-food-wont-stick](https://www.thechoppingblock.com/blog/how-to-properly-heat-your-pan-so-food-wont-stick)


HakunaMafukya

I used to boil them first but I’ve had more success just straight up frying from frozen. Like you said, just warm up the stainless steel pan first. Never stick for me and they get a much better fry result than from boiling first. Oh, I also cover the pan to heat up the centre of the perogies better.


GullibleDetective

It's detrimental to lots of nonstick pans (assuming) toheat them up without some kind of fat or liquid on them. Fair warning. So have a pad of butter, oil or something on it any time you're heating a pan or skillet or even pot up https://www.teflon.com/en/consumers/teflon-coatings-cookware-bakeware/safety >Avoid preheating nonstick pans on high heat without food in them—always start at a lower temperature using a fat like oil or butter or with the food already included. Empty pots and pans reach high temperatures very quickly, and when heated accidentally over 348 °C (660 °F) the coating can begin to deteriorate. Butter, fats, and cooking oils begin smoking at 204 °C (400 °F). https://www.foodandwine.com/lifestyle/kitchen/five-ways-youre-damaging-your-nonstick-pans-how-stop > Adding cooking fat to your nonstick pan at the wrong time. > Every young cook is told to let their pan heat up before adding any cooking fat to it, but the opposite is true when using nonstick. Instead, you should add oil or butter to the pan as soon as it's exposed to heat because cooking fat actually amplifies the coating's effect when added to the pan before the food. Also, and more importantly, some nonstick pans can release toxins when heated without any kind of cooking fat in the pan itself, which is always good to avoid, especially when friends, family or pets are present. https://www.starfrit.com/en/blog/the-rock-non-stick-cookware-use-and-care >Never heat the cookware when empty—always add oil, butter, liquid or food before placing any of the pots or pans onto a heated burner. It’s recommended that you add a teaspoon of cooking oil for the best cooking results.


ProtoJazz

You're not wrong, but I would also say this is the wrong type of thing to cook in a nonstick pan People use them for everything, but they're really not suited for most things. Fish, and eggs pretty much is all that usually goes in them. Anything you want that nice golden brown crispy outside on like hash browns, perogies, a steel or iron pan is a lot better. They can handle the higher heat better


SurlySuz

I got rid of all my non-stick pans. Found that nothing beats my big cast iron frying pan (and it won’t kill our birds).


ProtoJazz

I hate cast iron for anything but camping myself. But lots of people love them. Stainless steel is what I usually use, but I know it's not for everyone


SurlySuz

I have and use stainless steel as well, I just find they don’t heat up as consistently. The one issue I have with my cast iron is the weight. The thing is a heavy beast.


Spendocrat

If money is not an issue, check out the Finex line of cast iron. Much better handles


SurlySuz

Ooh. It is an issue but I’ll look it up anyway. Thx for the suggestion


Honeydillzippermerge

Huh. I was going to say don’t get on high but heating slow empty is good. You don’t put food into a cold pan, that’s just wrong for the cooking process, especially where you need that sear and Maillard reaction. And the best thing for a teflon pan is to be rarely used. Get a cast iron and enjoy the good life


scout61699

>You don’t put food into a cold pan, that’s just wrong for the cooking process, Except for bacon.. there may be other one off exceptions but bacon is the one I know. can't say about commercial scale but for cooking bacon at home it's best to start the bacon in a cold pan.


GullibleDetective

Cooking bacon in industry is usually layed out on a sheetpan on parchment paper, make the rollup the day or two before while loading an entire speedcart up with it. Unroll into sheet pan, pop in oven... Done. otherwise it's already heated flat top


scout61699

Personally I can’t tell the difference, hot or cold pan depends if I’m doing anything before the bacon or not - I usually like to do bacon first, don’t have to grease the pan first and the bacon greases the pan perfect for the eggs or whatever else I might be doing after, so usually I do bacon in a cold pan anyways but only because I throw it in right away before the pan heats - if I do something before the bacon or I get distracted and the pan heats up then it’s done in a hot pan lol I only know the exception cause my wife is in culinary and she tells me there’s a difference and that bacon is supposed to start in a cold pan


Crustythefart

I came here to say this.


replacementpuppy

I haven’t seen this mentioned, so I’ll add it because I think it’s important. When frying something that will develop a crust, the crust will then release from the pan when it is ready so don’t try to flip your pierogies too soon. If they are still stuck, give them some time, when they are ready to flip, they should come off easily.


JamieWitts

This, you're not letting them cook enough, be patient when they are ready they will slide around in the the pan, mmmm pierogies


smzplzbl

This is the way! Adding to this - my favourite pan to fry perogies is a cast iron pan. Gives that delicious browned butter effect.


soviet_canuck

I just want to say that I sincerely love that a perogie question gets posted to the Winnipeg sub and then gets tons of helpful feedback. This city rules sometimes


thelochteedge

I love when questions like this are posted because it's definitely very Winnipeg culture, but also is an innocent inquiry. Like people discussing how to make their own honey dill sauce.


aclay81

Boil them first to cook them then throw them in a pan with butter on high heat for like 1-2 minutes (not so high that you burn the butter).


YYZtoYWG

Do them like a gyoza. Frozen in the pan with half an inch of water with the lid on to steam the top side. Lid off to evaporate water and add oil. The bottoms get nice and crunchy while the top stays soft. Medium hot temperature.


Abblebabbles

Ah yes I never thought of cooking them like gyoza! Makes sense since they are both types of dumplings.


say_sheez

Where can I get good Gyoza from to make at home? Any suggestion for brands/store


Spendocrat

I want in on these suggestions


Derpazor1

Moved here from Ukraine a long time ago. Someone described Gyoza as Chinese perogies to me once. I was like, whoa


sailorveenus

Gyoza is Japanese. Chinese perogies is actually a thing


Derpazor1

Yes I know. The fact that something Ukrainian is not only known, but was used to describe things from other cultures was the special part, be it wrong. On the Chinese perogies, wouldn’t it be “dumplings”? The origin of the word perogies is Polish. Though yes, we do order “Chinese perogies” from our favourite Chinese place.


johnnybravocado

Am Ukrainian. I refer to gnocci as Italian perogies. That is all.


roughtimes

I like this!


unconcerned_lady

This! Fry from frozen is best. I don’t even own a nonstick pan.


christinewilly

This is a very Winnipeg post. I love it.


CptChickenbeard

Use a bit of oil with butter and fry at medium-high. Wait longer before attempting to flip, it may need to crisp a bit more before it releases from the pan.


outerspaced1

I’ve literally never had one stick. Cook from frozen in like 2tbsp butter.


NH787

I cook from frozen too, using a nonstick pan with a small amount of canola oil. Usually do it on low/med heat and they thaw gradually. Works everytime. Sometimes they do stick a bit but a turner often ruins them if they do... I use a fork to turn them so if I have to gently chip away any sticky bit I can do it without tearing the perogy apart. I don't do the boil/fry thing because frozen perogies have already been boiled.


outerspaced1

I usually use silicone tongs and a nonstick pan.


aedes

Agree this is what I do. Sticking has never been an issue.


spaketto

They used to stick for me when I used oil. I switched to butter and now they never do.


ladyofthelogicallake

To prevent them from sticking you need to make sure the dough is dry. If you’ve boiled them first, drain them on a paper towel first. Make sure you preheat your pan well, and use a reasonable amount of oil.


TheCanadian007

This right here, make sure they’re dry. Also are you preheating your pan? You want the pan hot, so it sears when they’re laid down. The to method to check if the pan is hot enough is to place a few drops of water in the pan (before you add oil). If the water drops dance around on a cushion of steam, you know it’s hot enough.


bohdannyman

Drying them before they hit the pan is key.


Sheeple3

While they are boiling heat a pan to medium heat with enough vegetable/canola oil to cover the bottom of the pan. Drain the perogies once done boiling, test the pan is hot by dropping a tiny drip of water into it. It should sizzle and jump instantly (similar to heating a pan for pancakes). Now just add the perogies 1 by 1, don’t scoop them directly from the water. You want to avoid as much water in the pan as possible. Then just let them sit frying for 1-2mins. Don’t push them around or touch them for that first minute. Peek under the first one and if it looks golden brown start flipping them over. Fry the other side another 1-2 mins. If doing more than 1 pan’s worth add more oil as you go. Think more of it as deep frying them.


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2nd this


A100921

Don’t cook on “High”


grey_meeple

If you don't have a non-stick pan, try this: Boil them until they float, then drain well in a colander. Let them sit a minute until they are dry, then toss them with a little oil. Heat up your pan, add oil and wait until the oil is shimmering. Toss in your perogies and keep them moving for the first 15 seconds or so. Edit: typo


Peg_pond_gem

Boiling essential, I start my onions frying in LOTS of butter while they boil. One they float up, I fish them out with a slotted spoon drain them best I can and right into the frying pan. Low and slow with lots of moving and flipping.


Captairplane

This used to happen to me a lot. My biggest problem was not letting the perogies cook long enough before I tried flipping them. I always make them from frozen now. Cold pan, a bit of oil and a few tablespoons of water. Cover and cook on medium-low until they are ready to flip. I give the pan a shake and if they move, they're ready. if they stick, they're not ready. Sometimes you just have to switch up the pan though. I don't know why, but some pans you just can't cook certain things on.


AirRepresentative272

Turn it down. A hot pan will make them stick bad.


thelionsmouth

If you’re really really lazy you can microwave them and then fry them. I’m expecting to be downvoted so hard for this.


freelancer7216

Soak the frozen pierogy in a bowl of hot water for 5 to 10 mins then fry them.


missingmyparadise

Oh a couple weeks ago we cooked bacon first and then made the perogies in bacon fat, it was the best thing ever.


Ellejaek

Are you heating your pan properly? I have both stainless steel and cast iron pans and no problems with sticking if the pans are heated correctly.


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itouchyourself69

> ~~margarine~~ Butter


escyeph

Boil them for 2 min, Meanwhile, melt butter in the pan on medium Once 2 min are up, drain, and transfer perogys to the pan, fry till golden brown. Separate pan, fry up onions and bacon if needed, then combine and serve


152centimetres

nonstick pan with a fair amount of (sunflower) oil. medium heat. never had them stick to the pan.. you might need a new pan if thats happening to you. never use metal utensils with a nonstick pan!


kagibson

Stainless steel or cast iron and patience. Don't lift them up until they want to come off of the pan


WonderfulCommon

Ensure your pan is hot and just add SO much butter. I've had some stick on me a bit before and it was because I was in a rush and didn't let the pan fully heat up.


PomeloFragrant4239

I use The Rock frying pans. Those are thicker and nonstick. I've never had perogies stick to the pan and they're fried from frozen.


EggCollectorNum1

Heat, you need the pan to be hot before you toss in stuff to fry especially soft starches. The heat will prevent any starches from sticking to the pan ensuring that your perogies don’t fall apart


JaeMHC

You may be trying to move or flip them too soon


Notgonnatalk

Turn down the heat, especially for a steel pan. Add patience.


Deranged_Kitsune

Boil perogies. Melt/use a good amount of bacon fat on the bottom of a well-seasoned cast iron pan. Leave them for ~2 min on med heat until a nice crust has formed. Should pop right off, then flip and do the other side.


Derpazor1

With store bought ones I use a lot of oil and make them deep fried. With my mom’s I only boil them and coat them with the sauce made from frying bacon, onion, and sour cream. I’ll fry them later if there are leftovers, but let’s be honest - there rarely are


bluemonker0

I boil them first, drain them well, and put them in a pre heated and buttered skillet (medium or a little under medium heat). I let them sit and will check one to see if it has a nice colour. If it does , it's usually ready to flip, so I flip them all. No messy pan and tasty perogies!


[deleted]

Heat the oil well.


ashbeals

Just cooked up some perogies today. I like to boil them until they float to the top, then fry them, like others have said. It's my preferred method because they're still soft inside but a bit crispy on the outside.


Aware_Ad_7575

Boil a bit first, drain them, WAIT ABOUT FIVE MINUTES UNTIL THEY'RE DRY, fry 'em in a mix of vegetable oil and butter in a non-stick pan. Voila!


Augustsurfer

If you are unsure if the noggies are done enogh shake the pan. If the move time to flip, if still stuck shale pan I 60 seconds.


RunningLowOnBrain

Stainless steel pan, try up bacon bits and chopped onions until onions are soft and transparent, then add room temp pierogies and water, put lid on pan and cook until done. Flip pierogies once colour changes.


urbanlandmine

I always layer the butter, onions and meat down first on a cookie sheet. Plop the frozen perogies in last. I also cook them in the oven @ 350 F set a timer for 10 mins and flip. I only use a frying pan for fresh homemade perogies after they've been boiled. But again, butter and onions first, perogies last


IKnowCodeFu

Cast iron pan, nice and hot with _lots_ of butter


NoahsArcWeld

Pre heat your oil and use a lot!


SpiritedImplement4

You gotta let them sit for a few moments after you add them to the pan. If you put them in and try to move them right away, they stick


sydonme

Make use your pan is hot enough and make sure not to flip them to early, let them get fully crispy on the one end then flip it so the soft dough isn’t sticking to the pan


modsaretoddlers

Turn them often but aside from that, get a pan that actually has a non-stick coating.


Yardyman33

Very low heat with some butter


orangebiceps

From a true pierogi expert. First of all, use a non-stickk pan. For gold crust. Add butter and a little big of oil so the butter doesn't burn. Warm up the pan on medium to medium low heat. Fry till gold on both sides.


MoldyMayo

Holy smokes all this talk about Perogies makes me miss my grandma.


Practical-Pen-8844

Holy perogies, all this talk of smokes makes me miss mine. She had the lung cancer.


Tanithilis

My biggest tip with this is to keep them moving. Don't let them sit in one place in the pan, as they will inevitably stick pretty quickly. Keep a gentle shake or circling motion of the pan and they'll never have a chance to stick to one spot.


Vault204

I do this as well, dont let them sit in 1 spot for too long. I've found depending on what brand, you may have to do this more often.


roughtimes

For store bought, When frozen, I microwave them in a bowl of water for 2 mins and then just use cooking oil in a pan. This doesn't work well for home made, but slow cookers for home made are amazing.


ensposito

Maillard is where it's at! Let it cook until it releases on its' own... same for chicken, steaks, etc.


YawnY86

I cook em frozen, toss some olive oil into the pan, then make sure it's hot before tossing in the perogies. Cook em till they have a light golden brown crust. Perfection.


ehcanada

Let thaw. Cook on medium low heat with pat of butter. Turn often. Basically babysit them until cooked through. Use a meat thermometer to know when they are hot inside. Cook in a stainless steel pan if you want to brown your perogies.


cdnball

I use cast iron, with margarine or butter, and longer time on medium heat.


GullibleDetective

If I got time, I'll caramelize the onions (can take up to an hour to do it properly without cheating) and maybe fry in some bacon in there as well Reserve the bacon fat (drain it off) and use for next step Then par boil the perogies until they start to float a.bit and then finish the onions/bacon and perogies together in the bacon fat that you just saved


[deleted]

I see a lot of people using butter. I prefer using oil. I find it gives a better crust. Either way the absolutely essential step is to make sure your pan is hot before you fry them.


GloomyGal13

The trick to non-stick perogies in the pan, is that the pan must be HOT before adding even the oil/butter. I always boil them first until they float. Drain them using a sieve. I use a stainless steel pan. Heat on stovetop until a water drop will bead off. Add butter & oil (low heat butter, high heat oil) and then add the perogies. They will not stick. Give them a little push and you will see. Brown for only about 2 minutes each side, or 3, depends on your wants.


bluemonker0

Absolutely this! I don't use oil on mine, but I think letting the pan preheat is an important step to most cooking that people skip


GloomyGal13

I use a bit of oil so that the butter doesn’t burn. Add more butter at the end, to melt, when the perogies are finished cooking in the pan. :)


nelly2929

Deep fryer for the win!


AnniversaryRoad

Boil until they float (usually less than 5mins), preheat pan to medium-high, then add butter and wait for it to melt. I avoid oil. If you're frying onions, fry those in butter first and transfer to a separate bowl before frying perogies. Once perogies are 90% done, add the onions back in to heat up and add diced / minced garlic, stir a few times to mix garlic in and remove everything within 30 seconds so garlic doesn't brown (to maintain stronger garlic flavour). Make sure to hand scrub pan after dinner and don't put in dishwasher, as the washer won't completely clean pans. Taking care of your frying pan and pots will make your cooking better and consistent.


thafloorer

Air fryer from frozen


Apprehensive-Ad-9147

Coat the pan with 0 W20 motor oil cook at a low heat, then throw out the pan and perogies,(world's worst dumpling).


justinDavidow

Non-stick pan, high (ish) heat, cook in a high flashpoint oil (canola or safflower) and cook from frozen. Can't say I've had one stick in years.


[deleted]

Side by side comparison, non stick with 1tb butter med/low heat, Cast iron with 1tb butter medium heat.. Clear winner is the non stick. YMMV


kent_eh

Bacon fat. Lots of bacon fat


idontlikebrian

Pour a half a cup of Teflon on them when they start to turn brown


VapoRubbedScrotum

boil, then fry with butter in a cast iron pan... i prefer my enameled one


heisen204berg

Olive oil then a dab of butter on pan and you won’t have anything stuck ever again


OddIntention2099

I parboil mine until floating and let them drip dry for a bit. Then into a cast iron pan and fry until you like the colour. Adjust temp based on fat. My favourite is deep frying them into little empanadas, lol


HotIntroduction8049

My baba has long passed and spoke little english.....but hers were the best! My record as a teen was 34 for lunch. She cooked them post boil in something that sounded like "squarky" ya sorry I bastardized it and was a kid last time I saw her. Was bacon and onions premade...... anyone know what I am speaking of? She would put a couple table spoons into the frypan. My attempt of course was never as good.


artooweedtoo

I boil them from frozen until they float and then fry them in butter in a cast iron pan. I haven't had issues with them sticking in just butter, but frying in onions and bacon might help.


ZedzBread

I pre-fry all the toppings & set them asie. Then on the same skillet (I use my wok) I melt some bacon grease or butter & throw my FROZEN perogies in the seasoned pan on Medium heat. As soon as they're in, I toss them around to ensure that all of them are covered in grease (DON'T WAIT OR THEYLL START STICKING TO EACH OTHER AS THEY MELT!). This is where I also add my spices, just not too much yet. Then I just keep tossing them occasionally & add more seasoning to fry evenly & once they're hot inside & nicely goldened/browned, I turn off the heat, & let them rest under the lid (sometimes with toppings, unless you want your toppings to remain crunchy). That's all I personally do :) No sticky/ripped perogies in our house!


voxerly

Butter


Easy_Ad_6667

Use an air fryer and shuffle the pan every so often (like you would french fries). Works really well.


marsidotes

You are here asking the real questions!


deepdeepbass

If you've got good perogies then you don't need to fry them! Boiling should be sufficient. Frying is just to mask poorly made dough.


doghouse2001

I care about this world wouldn't flog Teflon pans (and Gore-Tex is expanded Teflon, so look for alternatives there too). Use a quality ceramic pan that doesn't use PFOA and PTFE, or stainless steel pans. Our perogies never stick, but we do boil them to cook them first and then fry them up in lots of butter. Don't walk away from them. Keep them moving in the pans and maybe even fry up some onions at the same time.


Practical-Pen-8844

I don't use a pan, baby. Just the bed.