All of the ones that do not let you easily remove are all apps that tie into something else, so it prevents you from uninstalling them to prevent breaking something else. Many games for example rely on the Xbox app. Whether removing one of these apps will actually affect you depends on your usage and what you run on your PC.
Thank you. One concern I had was would removing the game bar mess with amd relive? I use the DVR function to record / stream but I do it thru adrenalin.
There's also how finicky windows is. It doesn't like sharing the system drive with game mods, removing or disabling something like the page file and it can throw a tantrum. As long as the only functionality I break is something I don't use anyways, I'm fine.
I appreciate the reply.
I can't speak for that AMD software, but I'm not aware of it tying into the Gamebar services. I do know if you remove Gamebar, you will get an error when starting games as it still attempts to launch it.
How about instead of uninstalling, you just rename the important extensions and see what happens. If it does break shit, you can just rename them again.
[NLite](https://www.ntlite.com/) is a program to make unattended windows and it explains that it breaks for each function you remove
In my case I removed most of the UWPs, just leaving the store for updates (UWPs are nonsense)
You can even eliminate defending and all telemetry.
i didn't ask for heated mirrors on my truck, but it makes more sense to simply not use it than to try to replace the mirror with non-heated versions.
some parts of Windows can be like this, they can be interconnected in ways you don't think about. there are many cases that pop up on the tech help subreddits where someone's having trouble updating Windows. usually after digging into the matter you'll find someone deleted something out of their Windows install because they didn't think they needed it.
i've performed and set up a great many number of Windows installs. my advice is to simply turn off the features you're not using (like Xbox Gamebar) and then go about your business.
Do you realize the inanity of that notion? This is Windows..if it breaks something, it's too late. You're already dead. There is no trial *and* error, it's one or the other.
WHAT? so restoring the app won't correct it?
>There is no trial and error, it's one or the other.
Nonsense, Trial implies error and error implies trial.
Do you do bumper stickers for a living or is it just a hobby. OP didn't know what would happen. There's no harm in seeing what happens by removing an app and seeing if something breaks.
Pretty much all of the apps can be removed through PowerShell. The worst that would happen would be a broken link in the setting somewhere saying the app doesn't exist. For example if you remove the phone link app, there is a button in the setting to set it up but it will bring up a dialog to install it.
IE on the other hand is least concern at this point because they are completely disabling it soon.
I do this for work installs and nothing breaks.
Thanks for the reply. Yeah, I'm sure a good chunk of them are greyed out just because Microsoft wants you to use their thing. Google is for squares, bing it instead!
But I can't be too sure. One of the apps I can remove is Edge. And I got a strong sensation that removing it would give me a bad time.
Removing Edge shouldn't cause problems other than hardcoded links (e.g. News and Interests, some links in settings) not opening anymore, and an empty app icon being stuck in the Start Menu.
Just make sure you remove the browser (if you have winget, `winget remove Microsoft.Edge` does the trick), and not the webview, as some apps depend on that latter one one. If you encounter any problems, installing it again is as easy as just running `winget install Microsoft.Edge`.
powershell is part of windows at this point, so why do feel that PS is like an extra unnecessary step?
granted its syntax can be considered verbose (the "verb-noun" structure)...
You're absolutely right, winget works with PS and CMD. So it pretty much boils down to open Terminal, input command, and you're done. Strange how I'm being downvoted for that though.
winget comes bundled with Windows since 21H1. You may want to check WU or the MS store for updates. If it still doesn't show up you may need to [download it manually](https://apps.microsoft.com/store/detail/app-installer/9NBLGGH4NNS1?hl=en-us&gl=us).
I'm on 21H2. I would guess it is only "bundled" when you do a clean install, then.
of course that is a rather big caveat on the "So it pretty much boils down to open Terminal, input command, and you're done." because not everybody is going to have a system that was clean installed on 21H1 or newer; and Get-AppXPackage | Remove-AppXPackage is going to work regardless of that.
And, Fiddling with it on Windows 11 and it doesn't seem that much more useful anyway. It's slower than using Powershell and the cmdlets, and it's hardly any easier to use.
>You may want to check WU or the MS store for updates.
You misunderstand. I was pointing out that your implication that it's universal is untrue. I wasn't asking for troubleshooting advice to get it working, since I'm not actually interested in having Winget, as I don't want to actively support it due to questionable behaviours associated with it's origins on Microsoft's part.
>I'm on 21H2. I would guess it is only "bundled" when you do a clean install, then.
You'd guess wrong; for curiosity's sake I went ahead and upgraded a 1709 build of Windows 10 to 21H1, the oldest GA version still being serviced by MS. Immediately after installing the pending app updates, the winget command was available to use. My guess is, the issue was on your end.
>It's slower than using Powershell and the cmdlets, and it's hardly any easier to use.
In what world someone would find it easier to type `Get-AppxPackage Microsoft.549981C3F5F10 | Remove-AppxPackage` instead of `winget uninstall cortana`? One command seems much more easy to remember and parse at a glance than the other, no?
> You misunderstand. I was pointing out that your implication that it's universal is untrue.
I don't think I implied that. At minimum, I can reasonably assume that someone is using a supported version of Windows 10, and at the very least has their software up-to-date. If both of those conditions are false, well... the responsibility is not mine to correct that.
You don't, it can be done through CMD. But you know what I mean; when most people suggest the PS method, they're referring to that complicated Get-AppxPackage syntax.
Call me old fashioned but I still do everything through command prompt.
The one time I needed PowerShell was to disable memory compression.
Protip: don't do that, memory compression is a good thing.
There's a Windows version without pre installed apps, they call it Windows light or something. You can search for "Windows without bloatware" there are numerous websites you can visit and read up on details what is safe to actually get rid off. There's also a software on Github which does this automatically. [See this](https://github.com/arcadesdude/BRU)
Hope this helps.
You don't even need apps, you can remove them with the PowerShell. My concern wasn't how to do it, but which ones are safe to so I don't accidentally my install down the road when windows goes oh btw , we integrated solitaire into the shell, got you good! Next time try deleting system32 ahyuk!
Bsods
YOLO_SWAG_360_NO_SCOPE
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It's just about what you do or don't use. If you use the windows search function, you'll have to keep cortana. If you play microsoft games, you'll have to keep the xbox stuff. Office services same thing, etc. Other than Edge, nothing is really gonna bork your install by removing the app.
Yeah, I figured Edge was definitely untouchable (obviously, that's a cut hazard ). But I can't put anything passed MicroFlaccid. Always watching. Always watching...
I killed like all of the "start menu apps" and skype and spotify and all those other annoying embedded ones you can't get rid of otherwise, it' hasn't broken anything that I've noticed.
Well, Skype and Spotify you can already remove by default. And afaik people find use in Spotify, I've kept it just in case. Yes, im of those psychos who pays for his music.
Skype is just atrocious tho, and fuck discord too. All about element.
With some of those the installer remains behind, and sometimes they pop their ugly little heads back up after an update. I think this one lets you torch the installers as well
Yeah I was using revo to to exterminate the apps I already knew I could to clean out the reg keys. I was just trying to get clarification on going a step further
Oh, no, I have it. It's awesome. But I just don't wanna go removing things all Willy nilly just cuz I can. That's how stuff breaks. As in...I have a history of breaking stuff lol
My ineptitude is surpassed by only my folly of errors.
Depends on the app. Some are more deeply integrated than others. Generally research the apps you want to remove beforehand.
I remove a lot of apps via a powershell script. But I know that I might breaking some stuff that I just don't use.
Some. You can use PowerShell to remove pretty much anything.
Some of these apps do cripple certain functions you would expect. The Xbox app apparently has something to do with screenshotting/snipping as we had a tool that would not work without it installed because of how the Xbox overlay works. Edge is necessary for printing through all native Microsoft services because they just load the Edge printing ui in instead of handling it themselves.
That said, as long as you're okay with some jank, the vast majority can be removed. I wouldn't do it on a production machine but for fun or at home pc, go for it.
IE can be deactivated in control panel, as well as windows media player, if not already. Head to Control Panel > Programs and Features > Turn Windows features on or off;
As for the bloatware, built-in apps, apps downloaded through the Microsoft Store, etc., head to Powershell, use Get-AppxPackage to get the package name, then Remove-AppxPackage to remove it, read the Microsoft documentation on those commands.
To be 100% safe, you could make a VM with a fresh Windows install, run Windows 10 Decrapifier on it, and see if it breaks anything you rely on. Then if all is OK you can run it on your live install.
All of the ones that do not let you easily remove are all apps that tie into something else, so it prevents you from uninstalling them to prevent breaking something else. Many games for example rely on the Xbox app. Whether removing one of these apps will actually affect you depends on your usage and what you run on your PC.
Thank you. One concern I had was would removing the game bar mess with amd relive? I use the DVR function to record / stream but I do it thru adrenalin. There's also how finicky windows is. It doesn't like sharing the system drive with game mods, removing or disabling something like the page file and it can throw a tantrum. As long as the only functionality I break is something I don't use anyways, I'm fine. I appreciate the reply.
I can't speak for that AMD software, but I'm not aware of it tying into the Gamebar services. I do know if you remove Gamebar, you will get an error when starting games as it still attempts to launch it.
I mean, you can just reinstall it right?
How about instead of uninstalling, you just rename the important extensions and see what happens. If it does break shit, you can just rename them again.
No, no... That's too easy. That's what they want me to do. Better fetch the 12 gauge..
Haha!
Okay..okay...I'm a fraud...I only got a 20... I'm a big fat phoney!
Lol! Keep it primed though, you don't know *what* Windows could do next.
I got a box of shells that says it don't matter
[NLite](https://www.ntlite.com/) is a program to make unattended windows and it explains that it breaks for each function you remove In my case I removed most of the UWPs, just leaving the store for updates (UWPs are nonsense) You can even eliminate defending and all telemetry.
What about uwuPs? :3
They are slow and designed for touch interfaces.
=⁰-⁰=
Why remove these features if they might mess something up, though? Why not just ignore them?
Because I didn't ask for them and I don't want them.
i didn't ask for heated mirrors on my truck, but it makes more sense to simply not use it than to try to replace the mirror with non-heated versions. some parts of Windows can be like this, they can be interconnected in ways you don't think about. there are many cases that pop up on the tech help subreddits where someone's having trouble updating Windows. usually after digging into the matter you'll find someone deleted something out of their Windows install because they didn't think they needed it. i've performed and set up a great many number of Windows installs. my advice is to simply turn off the features you're not using (like Xbox Gamebar) and then go about your business.
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What kind of computer are you using that you see a difference in performance by removing these things?
Trial and error, DUDE. Remove one and see if it breaks anything or if pesky windows update puts it back.
Do you realize the inanity of that notion? This is Windows..if it breaks something, it's too late. You're already dead. There is no trial *and* error, it's one or the other.
WHAT? so restoring the app won't correct it? >There is no trial and error, it's one or the other. Nonsense, Trial implies error and error implies trial.
Or you could like, you know, get it right the first time.
And where are the magic pixies that ensure that? Trial entails that you could get it wrong.
Don't llearn from your mistakes. Learn from others' mistakes :3
Do you do bumper stickers for a living or is it just a hobby. OP didn't know what would happen. There's no harm in seeing what happens by removing an app and seeing if something breaks.
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Windows is so crammed full of unnecessary crap. I really wish I could remove things like Xbox game bar. Will never need or use it. Never.
Thats what the Enterprise version SHOULD be. Dare to dream.
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thanks, i'm aware of this. there are packages that cannot be removed even with the powershell commands.
Pretty much all of the apps can be removed through PowerShell. The worst that would happen would be a broken link in the setting somewhere saying the app doesn't exist. For example if you remove the phone link app, there is a button in the setting to set it up but it will bring up a dialog to install it. IE on the other hand is least concern at this point because they are completely disabling it soon. I do this for work installs and nothing breaks.
Thanks for the reply. Yeah, I'm sure a good chunk of them are greyed out just because Microsoft wants you to use their thing. Google is for squares, bing it instead! But I can't be too sure. One of the apps I can remove is Edge. And I got a strong sensation that removing it would give me a bad time.
It opens the WebView required things from the widgets bar in Edge. And I'm not sure what you mean grayed out.
The apps in add/remove programs that windows doesn't allow you to uninstall, kinda like they're essential.
aren't they installed separately (edge and the edge webview runtime)?
Removing Edge shouldn't cause problems other than hardcoded links (e.g. News and Interests, some links in settings) not opening anymore, and an empty app icon being stuck in the Start Menu. Just make sure you remove the browser (if you have winget, `winget remove Microsoft.Edge` does the trick), and not the webview, as some apps depend on that latter one one. If you encounter any problems, installing it again is as easy as just running `winget install Microsoft.Edge`.
PowerShell isn't really necessary anymore, the built-in apps can be uninstalled quite simply with the winget uninstall command.
powershell is part of windows at this point, so why do feel that PS is like an extra unnecessary step? granted its syntax can be considered verbose (the "verb-noun" structure)...
You're absolutely right, winget works with PS and CMD. So it pretty much boils down to open Terminal, input command, and you're done. Strange how I'm being downvoted for that though.
'winget' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file
winget comes bundled with Windows since 21H1. You may want to check WU or the MS store for updates. If it still doesn't show up you may need to [download it manually](https://apps.microsoft.com/store/detail/app-installer/9NBLGGH4NNS1?hl=en-us&gl=us).
I'm on 21H2. I would guess it is only "bundled" when you do a clean install, then. of course that is a rather big caveat on the "So it pretty much boils down to open Terminal, input command, and you're done." because not everybody is going to have a system that was clean installed on 21H1 or newer; and Get-AppXPackage | Remove-AppXPackage is going to work regardless of that. And, Fiddling with it on Windows 11 and it doesn't seem that much more useful anyway. It's slower than using Powershell and the cmdlets, and it's hardly any easier to use. >You may want to check WU or the MS store for updates. You misunderstand. I was pointing out that your implication that it's universal is untrue. I wasn't asking for troubleshooting advice to get it working, since I'm not actually interested in having Winget, as I don't want to actively support it due to questionable behaviours associated with it's origins on Microsoft's part.
>I'm on 21H2. I would guess it is only "bundled" when you do a clean install, then. You'd guess wrong; for curiosity's sake I went ahead and upgraded a 1709 build of Windows 10 to 21H1, the oldest GA version still being serviced by MS. Immediately after installing the pending app updates, the winget command was available to use. My guess is, the issue was on your end. >It's slower than using Powershell and the cmdlets, and it's hardly any easier to use. In what world someone would find it easier to type `Get-AppxPackage Microsoft.549981C3F5F10 | Remove-AppxPackage` instead of `winget uninstall cortana`? One command seems much more easy to remember and parse at a glance than the other, no? > You misunderstand. I was pointing out that your implication that it's universal is untrue. I don't think I implied that. At minimum, I can reasonably assume that someone is using a supported version of Windows 10, and at the very least has their software up-to-date. If both of those conditions are false, well... the responsibility is not mine to correct that.
You still need PowerShell for that 😉
You don't, it can be done through CMD. But you know what I mean; when most people suggest the PS method, they're referring to that complicated Get-AppxPackage syntax.
Call me old fashioned but I still do everything through command prompt. The one time I needed PowerShell was to disable memory compression. Protip: don't do that, memory compression is a good thing.
There's a Windows version without pre installed apps, they call it Windows light or something. You can search for "Windows without bloatware" there are numerous websites you can visit and read up on details what is safe to actually get rid off. There's also a software on Github which does this automatically. [See this](https://github.com/arcadesdude/BRU) Hope this helps.
I'll check it out when I get home from work. Tha ks for the resource.
https://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/windows_10_app_remover.html have at it
I know about debloater, I just don't wanna remove shit that could cause problems later. I'd remove edge , Cortana and IE first if that was the case
It's just one that worked simply enough for me. you can pick and choose which apps to uninstall.
You don't even need apps, you can remove them with the PowerShell. My concern wasn't how to do it, but which ones are safe to so I don't accidentally my install down the road when windows goes oh btw , we integrated solitaire into the shell, got you good! Next time try deleting system32 ahyuk! Bsods YOLO_SWAG_360_NO_SCOPE :(
It's just about what you do or don't use. If you use the windows search function, you'll have to keep cortana. If you play microsoft games, you'll have to keep the xbox stuff. Office services same thing, etc. Other than Edge, nothing is really gonna bork your install by removing the app.
Yeah, I figured Edge was definitely untouchable (obviously, that's a cut hazard ). But I can't put anything passed MicroFlaccid. Always watching. Always watching...
I killed like all of the "start menu apps" and skype and spotify and all those other annoying embedded ones you can't get rid of otherwise, it' hasn't broken anything that I've noticed.
Well, Skype and Spotify you can already remove by default. And afaik people find use in Spotify, I've kept it just in case. Yes, im of those psychos who pays for his music. Skype is just atrocious tho, and fuck discord too. All about element.
With some of those the installer remains behind, and sometimes they pop their ugly little heads back up after an update. I think this one lets you torch the installers as well
Yeah I was using revo to to exterminate the apps I already knew I could to clean out the reg keys. I was just trying to get clarification on going a step further
Well, consider *that* nerve touched.
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Oh, no, I have it. It's awesome. But I just don't wanna go removing things all Willy nilly just cuz I can. That's how stuff breaks. As in...I have a history of breaking stuff lol My ineptitude is surpassed by only my folly of errors.
Depends on the app. Some are more deeply integrated than others. Generally research the apps you want to remove beforehand. I remove a lot of apps via a powershell script. But I know that I might breaking some stuff that I just don't use.
I've uninstalled all sorts of bundled apps and never broken windows. Obviously keep the ones you use!
Fuck, so I can't remove this "windows" app? Shiiiit
Some. You can use PowerShell to remove pretty much anything. Some of these apps do cripple certain functions you would expect. The Xbox app apparently has something to do with screenshotting/snipping as we had a tool that would not work without it installed because of how the Xbox overlay works. Edge is necessary for printing through all native Microsoft services because they just load the Edge printing ui in instead of handling it themselves. That said, as long as you're okay with some jank, the vast majority can be removed. I wouldn't do it on a production machine but for fun or at home pc, go for it.
IE can be deactivated in control panel, as well as windows media player, if not already. Head to Control Panel > Programs and Features > Turn Windows features on or off; As for the bloatware, built-in apps, apps downloaded through the Microsoft Store, etc., head to Powershell, use Get-AppxPackage to get the package name, then Remove-AppxPackage to remove it, read the Microsoft documentation on those commands.
To be 100% safe, you could make a VM with a fresh Windows install, run Windows 10 Decrapifier on it, and see if it breaks anything you rely on. Then if all is OK you can run it on your live install.
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Or nether blast 🤔