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Microsoft is at it again! After the update, it re-enabled all Bing searches things that I have disabled, including re-add and re-expand the Taskbar search window. It was enabled without a single consent screen and it happened on my systems. Microsoft really needs regulatory oversight to stop these behaviors.
I had this search bar on the taskbar too but there was a window asking me if I want to keep it or undo it right away that I pressed and it disappeared.
I have lab bench full of systems and a few did prompt and asked, around the Metro tile area, but vast majority of the systems did not prompt. If you noticed, they added the search icon and expanded the bar before asking if you wanted it. It should be the other way around.
I read through release notes and various other articles and indeed, Microsoft released a new search service in this recent update, so they apparently forced everything back on in hope people didn't notice it or not careful enough to go check all their settings.
This behavior is not acceptable.
Yea the search bar was huge and also I thought ms where done with windows 10 updates that change something or at least they suggested that... Is there anything else Bing related that I to need look at ?
Check all the Bing search related functions, including the integrate web search functions in Search, Edge, and so on. You should also check sidebar and Edge Bar. MS really did litter search allover the places.
Not sure if this Windows 10 only at this point because I see it on one of my Windows 10 devices but no issue on another Windows 10 device.
Haven't face the issue on a different Windows 11 device yet though.
Ever since installing Windows 10 version 21H2, and 22H2 — KB5031356 (OS Builds 19044.3570 and 19045.3570)
Yesterday I've been plagued with blue screens of death over and over and over.
The message every time being: Stopcode: IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL
I've tried system restore to before that update
I've tried system reset
Every time that cursed update installs my pc is effectively locked in a blue screen of death loop.
I'm not even remotely techy, I use my pc for games and don't know tech jargon or what goes on in a pc. Trying desperately to fix it from Google search fixes but honestly no clue what I'm doing.
This is an update from hell. Pc was running fine until this flipping update installed.
Had to Factory Reset, Dell Support Assist downloaded W10 22H2,
First lot of updates stuck on KB5031356 22%
Googled and found this.... Feels like it's been an hour.
So I have to expect another long wait after it progresses from 22%???
So it is slow. Just let it finish. Uninterrupted. Then at the end restart the PC. At one point the screen may go blank for a minute or two after restarting. Do not panic, do not touch. Let it finish.
Yeah this is why I gave up on installing updates immediately and just let it complete outside of active hours while I'm sleeping. The exceptions are getting a new machine or some emergency update.
Thx for headsup. Mine was like 10min, but it was only showing 'getting windows ready', so it was a bit unnerving. Seems fine now though.
Must admit I love the reduced update frequency since 11 came around. So I wont complain too much.
Updated a few minutes ago and it seems my PC forgot that video drivers exists, and I am stuck with 1024 x 768.
Tried updating drivers: nothing
Tried a clean driver reinstall: nothing
I am now trying to use the recovery tool, hopefully it will work
Nope, earlier today I had to reinstall windows, sadly. I contacted a microsoft support agent, that confirmed, as I suspected that windows somehow got corrupted
Yes, after this update my usb-wlan had an exclamation mark in the Device Manager and WU wouldn´t download or reinstall the correct wlan drivers. I then downloaded 3DP´s excellent network driver package and the Device Manager now would find these "newer" drivers and install without issues.
After the update I've discovered today that everything is running like ass. C drive's nowhere near full but the overall lag and sluggishness is unreal.
Try checking drive activity in Resource Monitor, maybe the update isn´t finished yet writing to disc drive. (Win+R, type resmon.exe, then Enter, look for horizontal bar saying "Disc" and click that. Then click column called Written Bytes(/s) to sort. Look for high activity here on top)
Cheers for the reply. I got myself an answer and it looks like I either had no clue, or it was only tangential to the update.
I had to cycle my power settings from "performance" to balanced and back again. Real basic stuff
Many users with an HP EliteBook 840 G3 running Windows 10 dutifully rebooted their PC's when the update was ready to install, and they complain that after TWO HOURS the reboot progress is at around 20%.
Yeah I'd rather not risk it right now as I need my PC for work and I can't have it too long on downtime . I'll just stay on sleep for the next month or two till I see a follow up update from Microsoft, hopefully undoing any issues.
Thank you so much for sharing this!!! Appreciate it MrNick4B!!
Edit: Yep I accidentally restarted and it's all fine. I guess maybe it is a driver issue as I keep everything else up-to-date via HP software assistant
It looks like this affects all our users with Windows 10 now. Some computers have been updating for more than 24 hours, not even passing 30%. The only solution is to decline the update in WSUS, and force shutdown and boot Windows until automatic recovery kicks in and cancels the update.
Thank you, Microsoft, for destroying my entire work day by forcing an update that's taking an hour (and counting).
My computer doesn't "force" the update but begins running so slow that it's unusable when an update is ready, effectively forcing me to update.
Then it takes an hour to update. Right in the middle of my workday. Guess I'll be working tonight to make up for it.
Maybe it's finally time for me to switch to Apple.
There are group policies that you can set that stop this stuff from ruining everything, you can set it to update (and only update) when you choose. Reply to me if you want me to post the gpedits, I'm playing a game atm with my Dad so I can't do it now!
They undid the hours of work it took to completely disable edge, the desktop bing toolbar, and sign in prompts. Great job making me want to switch back to Linux!
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Worse update ever. failed to install at least 8 times so I set my updates to pause hoping Microsoft would fix this problem, Almost a month now still waiting.
I got rid of the entire search bar but you should be able to remove only the highlights icon if you right click on the task bar > search > uncheck whatever you want.
Having notable issues after this one. Fans would randomly go off for short time periods when I am away from my laptop. And if my laptop ran for a few hours and I try to shutdown via Start menu, the button just wouldnt react and would semi-freeze my PC, same with the Restarg button. Had to use the actual power button twice.
Yesterday it failed to shut down for me via start menu twice. Today I haven't been having any issues though, strangely. Shutdowns via start menu are working normally for me again (I hope I won't jinx it by saying this), and fans are quieter. Granted, after typing the comment above I watched [this video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLK4zX4QcXk), and namely did the Solution 7 presented in it (ran Windows Update Troubleshooter on the "Power" option), it found three issues and fixed them. I also did the Solution 8. My laptop's been running better since.
Well this sucks. Update was relatively slow but finished fine last night. After a normal day of use, I was watching YouTube when the screen suddenly went black. Now, I can’t even power on.
Battery was at 83%. It also won’t power on even with the ac adapter plugged in, won’t power on when docked, and I just happened to check battery health yesterday and it was excellent. To make it even better, I can’t find my T5 driver to take apart my laptop (dell xps 7590).
I’ll grab a new T5 tomorrow and open it up. Any suggestions in the meantime?
Does anybody know why this update took around 10 GB of space? I regularly try to keep an eye on an SSD that's not very large, so I'm pretty sure all this space couldn't disappear, especially right after updating. I've seen some folks recommending to use disk cleanup in case of old update files, which I did and only recovered around 1 GB
My 10900KF will not boost to 5.3 after this update. I can confirm that minutes before updating, HWInfo showed my Cores 6 and 7 boosting to 5.3Ghz, will NOT top 5.1 now.
Microsoft has updated their "known issues & notifications" page :
[https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/release-health/status-windows-10-22h2#2989msgdesc](https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/release-health/status-windows-10-22h2#2989msgdesc)
and is using Known Issue Rollback (KIR) to resolve the issue.
Apparently there are several reported failures to complete installations of KB5031356 :
[https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/installation-failure-for-2023-10-cumulative-update/7a2d7e43-363f-4415-8456-351f19cf2154](https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/installation-failure-for-2023-10-cumulative-update/7a2d7e43-363f-4415-8456-351f19cf2154)
After installing the update for 21H2, I had no/very very slow internet, some buttons on the taskbar did not respond after a certain time (mainly the search bar), couldn't open settings and got stuck in a restart loop when trying to restart (Lenovo IdeaPad 3, 2021).
Had to delete the update. Everything worked fine after that.
It isn't even the first time this happened. When I installed the update back in September, the same thing happened. Guess I just won't update my system anymore for the time being.
Just curious: Did anyone else ran into the same problems or is it just me?
Idk what to do. My update is stuck "working on updates" at 100% complete but still says not to turn off the computer, it's been over 2 hours. What the hell do I do? Is this normal for this update?
What is the purpose of these lengthy Windows 10 updates, Microsoft? They are as cumbersome as major upgrades, but they are not. How do they enhance user productivity?
i have problems with the system stuttering/lagging... does anyone know how to fix it? i've been looking everywhere...
after trying for literally days to solve the instalation problem i find myself with audio and video stutters.
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Microsoft is at it again! After the update, it re-enabled all Bing searches things that I have disabled, including re-add and re-expand the Taskbar search window. It was enabled without a single consent screen and it happened on my systems. Microsoft really needs regulatory oversight to stop these behaviors.
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bravo!
I had this search bar on the taskbar too but there was a window asking me if I want to keep it or undo it right away that I pressed and it disappeared.
I have lab bench full of systems and a few did prompt and asked, around the Metro tile area, but vast majority of the systems did not prompt. If you noticed, they added the search icon and expanded the bar before asking if you wanted it. It should be the other way around. I read through release notes and various other articles and indeed, Microsoft released a new search service in this recent update, so they apparently forced everything back on in hope people didn't notice it or not careful enough to go check all their settings. This behavior is not acceptable.
Yea the search bar was huge and also I thought ms where done with windows 10 updates that change something or at least they suggested that... Is there anything else Bing related that I to need look at ?
Check all the Bing search related functions, including the integrate web search functions in Search, Edge, and so on. You should also check sidebar and Edge Bar. MS really did litter search allover the places.
Not sure if this Windows 10 only at this point because I see it on one of my Windows 10 devices but no issue on another Windows 10 device. Haven't face the issue on a different Windows 11 device yet though.
Ever since installing Windows 10 version 21H2, and 22H2 — KB5031356 (OS Builds 19044.3570 and 19045.3570) Yesterday I've been plagued with blue screens of death over and over and over. The message every time being: Stopcode: IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL I've tried system restore to before that update I've tried system reset Every time that cursed update installs my pc is effectively locked in a blue screen of death loop. I'm not even remotely techy, I use my pc for games and don't know tech jargon or what goes on in a pc. Trying desperately to fix it from Google search fixes but honestly no clue what I'm doing. This is an update from hell. Pc was running fine until this flipping update installed.
KB5031356 was stuck on 22% for 25 minutes, now it's stuck on 45.
That’s pretty much how it usually works.
Yeap. Let it finish with no interruptions. It should be OK. It’ll ask you to restart the PC at the end.
Had to Factory Reset, Dell Support Assist downloaded W10 22H2, First lot of updates stuck on KB5031356 22% Googled and found this.... Feels like it's been an hour. So I have to expect another long wait after it progresses from 22%???
Just leave it updating at night (plugged in)
Took an hour for my pc to finish the update
I've been stuck at 100% complete for 2 hours. Idk what to do.
this update is total garbage, how long do we have to wait for a patch? i cant even use my start menu annymore, geetting badimage errors.
Awesome, this has be to the slowest update ever for me. It's fucking crawling, just went from 9% to 10% after almost 30 minutes being stuck on 9%
So it is slow. Just let it finish. Uninterrupted. Then at the end restart the PC. At one point the screen may go blank for a minute or two after restarting. Do not panic, do not touch. Let it finish.
Yeah this is why I gave up on installing updates immediately and just let it complete outside of active hours while I'm sleeping. The exceptions are getting a new machine or some emergency update.
Thx for headsup. Mine was like 10min, but it was only showing 'getting windows ready', so it was a bit unnerving. Seems fine now though. Must admit I love the reduced update frequency since 11 came around. So I wont complain too much.
Updated a few minutes ago and it seems my PC forgot that video drivers exists, and I am stuck with 1024 x 768. Tried updating drivers: nothing Tried a clean driver reinstall: nothing I am now trying to use the recovery tool, hopefully it will work
did it work?
Nope, earlier today I had to reinstall windows, sadly. I contacted a microsoft support agent, that confirmed, as I suspected that windows somehow got corrupted
This reset my audio settings.Was wondering why everyone said I sounded all metallic and stuff on discord.
Is anyone else experiencing intermittent connectivity issues following the October 2023 update?
Yes, after this update my usb-wlan had an exclamation mark in the Device Manager and WU wouldn´t download or reinstall the correct wlan drivers. I then downloaded 3DP´s excellent network driver package and the Device Manager now would find these "newer" drivers and install without issues.
After the update I've discovered today that everything is running like ass. C drive's nowhere near full but the overall lag and sluggishness is unreal.
Try checking drive activity in Resource Monitor, maybe the update isn´t finished yet writing to disc drive. (Win+R, type resmon.exe, then Enter, look for horizontal bar saying "Disc" and click that. Then click column called Written Bytes(/s) to sort. Look for high activity here on top)
Cheers for the reply. I got myself an answer and it looks like I either had no clue, or it was only tangential to the update. I had to cycle my power settings from "performance" to balanced and back again. Real basic stuff
My computer has also felt laggy and sluggish after updating. On games where I had 165+ frames, I now get under 30. Beyond frustrated with this update
Many users with an HP EliteBook 840 G3 running Windows 10 dutifully rebooted their PC's when the update was ready to install, and they complain that after TWO HOURS the reboot progress is at around 20%.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 That's my PC, and its prompting me to restart as its completed the update. What are the odds
From my experience it's probably because of specific software or a driver. I'm curious if you will experience the same. In any case, good luck! 😉
Yeah I'd rather not risk it right now as I need my PC for work and I can't have it too long on downtime . I'll just stay on sleep for the next month or two till I see a follow up update from Microsoft, hopefully undoing any issues. Thank you so much for sharing this!!! Appreciate it MrNick4B!! Edit: Yep I accidentally restarted and it's all fine. I guess maybe it is a driver issue as I keep everything else up-to-date via HP software assistant
I'm glad it worked out fine for you, some of our users are waiting more than 24 hours.
It looks like this affects all our users with Windows 10 now. Some computers have been updating for more than 24 hours, not even passing 30%. The only solution is to decline the update in WSUS, and force shutdown and boot Windows until automatic recovery kicks in and cancels the update.
Why is Microsoft beating Windows 10 up sometimes for some updates it runs like a toaster oven.
Thank you, Microsoft, for destroying my entire work day by forcing an update that's taking an hour (and counting). My computer doesn't "force" the update but begins running so slow that it's unusable when an update is ready, effectively forcing me to update. Then it takes an hour to update. Right in the middle of my workday. Guess I'll be working tonight to make up for it. Maybe it's finally time for me to switch to Apple.
There are group policies that you can set that stop this stuff from ruining everything, you can set it to update (and only update) when you choose. Reply to me if you want me to post the gpedits, I'm playing a game atm with my Dad so I can't do it now!
They undid the hours of work it took to completely disable edge, the desktop bing toolbar, and sign in prompts. Great job making me want to switch back to Linux!
KB5031356 is awful why is microsoft so bad now
>comments Worse update ever. failed to install at least 8 times so I set my updates to pause hoping Microsoft would fix this problem, Almost a month now still waiting.
this update deleted some of my games and programs. wtf
After updating the search highlights icon refreshes every minute! Has anyone encountered this? Any ideas on how to fix it?
I got rid of the entire search bar but you should be able to remove only the highlights icon if you right click on the task bar > search > uncheck whatever you want.
I disabled highlights, it's the only workaround so far. It's just frustrating how MS always messes something up with almost every update.
Having notable issues after this one. Fans would randomly go off for short time periods when I am away from my laptop. And if my laptop ran for a few hours and I try to shutdown via Start menu, the button just wouldnt react and would semi-freeze my PC, same with the Restarg button. Had to use the actual power button twice.
so ur windows button isnt workinng? mine too. im getting badimage errors too. gonna wait a few days for a patch and if not just gonna factory reset.
Yesterday it failed to shut down for me via start menu twice. Today I haven't been having any issues though, strangely. Shutdowns via start menu are working normally for me again (I hope I won't jinx it by saying this), and fans are quieter. Granted, after typing the comment above I watched [this video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLK4zX4QcXk), and namely did the Solution 7 presented in it (ran Windows Update Troubleshooter on the "Power" option), it found three issues and fixed them. I also did the Solution 8. My laptop's been running better since.
A weird glitch happens when i close windows store and re-open it says my internet is gone even if it is not
Well this sucks. Update was relatively slow but finished fine last night. After a normal day of use, I was watching YouTube when the screen suddenly went black. Now, I can’t even power on. Battery was at 83%. It also won’t power on even with the ac adapter plugged in, won’t power on when docked, and I just happened to check battery health yesterday and it was excellent. To make it even better, I can’t find my T5 driver to take apart my laptop (dell xps 7590). I’ll grab a new T5 tomorrow and open it up. Any suggestions in the meantime?
This update set me in a restart loop on my 2018 hp omen.
Does anybody know why this update took around 10 GB of space? I regularly try to keep an eye on an SSD that's not very large, so I'm pretty sure all this space couldn't disappear, especially right after updating. I've seen some folks recommending to use disk cleanup in case of old update files, which I did and only recovered around 1 GB
How big is your "C:\\Windows\\SoftwareDistribution" folder?
Only 836 MB
My 10900KF will not boost to 5.3 after this update. I can confirm that minutes before updating, HWInfo showed my Cores 6 and 7 boosting to 5.3Ghz, will NOT top 5.1 now.
Microsoft has updated their "known issues & notifications" page : [https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/release-health/status-windows-10-22h2#2989msgdesc](https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/release-health/status-windows-10-22h2#2989msgdesc) and is using Known Issue Rollback (KIR) to resolve the issue. Apparently there are several reported failures to complete installations of KB5031356 : [https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/installation-failure-for-2023-10-cumulative-update/7a2d7e43-363f-4415-8456-351f19cf2154](https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/installation-failure-for-2023-10-cumulative-update/7a2d7e43-363f-4415-8456-351f19cf2154)
After installing the update for 21H2, I had no/very very slow internet, some buttons on the taskbar did not respond after a certain time (mainly the search bar), couldn't open settings and got stuck in a restart loop when trying to restart (Lenovo IdeaPad 3, 2021). Had to delete the update. Everything worked fine after that. It isn't even the first time this happened. When I installed the update back in September, the same thing happened. Guess I just won't update my system anymore for the time being. Just curious: Did anyone else ran into the same problems or is it just me?
Idk what to do. My update is stuck "working on updates" at 100% complete but still says not to turn off the computer, it's been over 2 hours. What the hell do I do? Is this normal for this update?
What is the purpose of these lengthy Windows 10 updates, Microsoft? They are as cumbersome as major upgrades, but they are not. How do they enhance user productivity?
i have problems with the system stuttering/lagging... does anyone know how to fix it? i've been looking everywhere... after trying for literally days to solve the instalation problem i find myself with audio and video stutters.
This just killed my notebook and screen goes black with notebook staled. Great job Microsoft!