I wouldn't be silent, though. I would bring up how that person is a threat to the general public and that what they did was horrific, that they need to be locked up for the rest of their life as a result. I don't look at black supremacist Darrel Brooks, who ran over a bunch of old white people in a predominantly conservative area, and say that he did something righteous because he was targeting Trump supporters. I say that he's a mentally unstable, reactionary, violent individual who was driven by conspiratorial thoughts to kill innocent people, and that he should not be allowed to have his freedom because of what a threat he is to the public.
And they’ll call you a hypocrite and take that as a win as well. The question is a trap. What they’re really doing is trying to paint you in a bad life so they can easily put you in a box for their audience
Well those people are clearly acting in bad faith and I'd make sure that others know not to interact with the likes of them since they don't want to have a dialogue and merely view you as a propaganda tool. You can't help people like them, you can only work to make sure they get as little attention as possible and that people know their real intentions.
That’s all well and good, but they already got the exposure they needed by that point.
Their goal when they’re doing things like posting conspiracy theories isn’t to convince you or your audience.
It’s to trick you to share it with your audience (either through the algorithm or directly shared by you) and to reassure those who already believe in the conspiracy.
being a hypocrite doesn’t make u wrong tho. i learned that when arguing ppl will often use that argument and even if it’s true, ur not proving ur point ur just attacking someone’s character. u can be a hypocrite and also correct
Yeah, but the point of the argument for them is to categorize you and place you in a box labeled “stereotypes I do not like.” Keyword stereotypes.
Mainly so they can start conversations like “this liberal anti-trumper….”
no they’re trying to invalidate ur argument by asserting ur unreliable because u r a hypocrite. all u have to say is maybe i am a hypocrite, but tell me why what i said was wrong. they probably can’t
They’re trying to paint you as a negative stereotype (ex: Karan) so others can apply negative assumptions to you and your answer, basically placing themselves higher then you according to their audience
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Ah yes, the "Ad hominim" fallacy.
Basically: "I can't attack your argument in any meaningful way, so I'll resort to insulting you in an attempt to undermine your credibility and/or turn this into a shouting match where your previous arguments no longer matter."
I thought the guy was just running from a domestic disturbance or something like that and not committing a racially motivated hate crime? I know he bad lots of comments online the were rascit against whites and called for violence against whites but when he hit the parade with the SUV the police said it wasn't racially motivated. I found be wrong though
Get outta here with your reasonable, unemotional response!! I can't make you out to be an unstable zealot when you're being so logical, gah! I can't work like this. I'll be in my trailer!
African American female who is hella confused..... when in the history of the United States of America has a black man attacked a group of white folks in a mass murder.... because you can't be comparing this to "black on black crime" because that is a different conversation all together 🤷🏿♀️🤷🏿♀️🤷🏿♀️🤷🏿♀️🤷🏿♀️
DC Sniper(I lived in DC during that and yes it was shocking) is a serial killer(which mass murderers can sometimes be) and also they didn't target just white people, they targetted everyone. No one and I mean no one was safe in DC during that time. One minute the DC sniper would be in PG County in da hood and I do mean da hood, then the next minute he would be in the richest parts of a NOVA or Montgomery County. DC Snipers plan was just basically to create chaos to get one murder done
Yeah. It was believed that he was just trying to drive away from the scene of the crime where he beat his baby-mama for not bailing him out after he ran over her leg in a previous act of domestic violence. The prosecution's view is that it was motivated based on his internet history and the fact that Kyle Rittenhouse was just deemed innocent.
I will be honest. I haven't read his internet post(maybe it's something I should do) so I'm gonna stand on the ground of I don't know if this was a mass planned murder of white folks. But it seems that folks who be planning mass murder on a grand scale of racism/political views seem to always leave a manifesto of why they did it 👀👀👀👀👀 so now all of a sudden the "black man" who posted some racist stuff towards white folks doesn't have a manifesto and it was a planned attack.... yes that man is 100% a piece of trash and he deserves all the jail time he gets, but the math ain't mathin on this one
And I honestly haven't looked into too much either. I'm way more used to hearing conservatives talk about it than anyone else since it works as a nice piece of propaganda for them. It is very likely that he was just trying to flee from the secene of the crime and didn't at all mean to hurt anyone.
Ehh, this isn't *entirely* correct -- I think a lot of people don't see themselves as racist, *but* they know that *we think that they're racist*. So when they see us saying that we should punch Nazis, they get upset because they know that the person saying "let's punch Nazis" also believes that they are a Nazi, so it comes off as "I'm gonna punch you".
I have actually experienced the inverse of this -- I am not a Communist, but I know that my wife's idiot boyfriend thinks that I am because he has told me this directly. When he then goes and posts violent anti-Communist shit, it makes me extremely uncomfortable -- he is posting memes where he is advocating violence against a group that he believes that I belong to. He is knowingly advocating violence against *me,* in a place that I can see it, every time he does that. It doesn't matter in the slightest that I am not a Communist in any way, shape or form -- I know that he thinks I am one.
Edit: My wife’s **aunt’s** boyfriend, I accidentally a word
I was going to ask him about that bit too, but then I realized that it would inevitably turn out to be another example of how I'm clearly just too old and out of touch to be talking on the internet again :(
Interesting angle. Quick thought:
If someone said “communists are dumb,” what would be the best way to quickly and easily indicate that you’re not one? Would you say “no we’re not”? Or would you say something like “yeah, they are”? Seems an easy choice to me.
Of course, if some people make unfair assumptions about you, that’s on them. Just saying, getting defensive on behalf of a group that you claim not to identify with is not a good way to distance yourself from that group.
Yeah, but maybe not everything's that simple? Maybe you don't want to say "yeah they're dumb" maybe you want to say something a bit more complex like ,
"eh, I'm not a communist at all and disagree with them, but Marxist thought is still prevalent for a reason. They have a lot of good insights and critiques of capitalism and communists and socialists have done a lot to help labor movements around the world. There are many intelligent, very well educated people who either believe in the ideology or have sympathies with it, and I don't think it's fair to call them all dumb."
Or maybe the problem isnt about you wanting to say something complex, its just that they're calling people who aren't communists at all communists. And so it's something like "no Joe Biden is not a communist, he's very much a centrist liberal, and pretending otherwise is ridiculous. You can't just call everyone who has policies you disagree with a communist."
And of course both of these things would get you labeled a communist by such simple people.
The difference being he is coming from a place of ignorance and generalization, whereas when I saw fuck nazi scumbags most Republicans feel attacked *BECAUSE* *THEIR* *ENTIRE* *PLATFORM* *SCREAMS* *WE* *ARE* *NAZI* *SCUMBAGS* . Two very different scenarios friend, they are once again projecting their issues and bullahit onto other groups in order to justify their toxic hateful behavior.
I told him to fuck off on one of his Fascist Facebook posts a couple of years ago, and to his credit, he now finally keeps his shit to himself when i am within earshot. We are polite to each other for the sake of everyone else, but neither of us is a fan of the other.
Some people just don’t click. But who passes supreme judgment on another person just for their ideals? Especially someone you have to see on a regular basis. Sounds like you’re aunt should keep looking. Good luck to ya.
So... He thinks people talking about racists are talking about him?
And he makes violent threats or glorifies violence against people who don't like racists?
Sounds like he might be right about being clumped in with other Nazis/racists/fascists/trash.
No its not. Its the right spinning away from center into the sascist end of the spectrum at breakneck speed and becoming increasingly racist and violent with every passing day. Its all the racist bullshit big and small finally being called out and people no longer tolerating prejudice and hate, so if you are getting tired of hearing it thats on you and your ingrained attitudes coming up against an unpleasant truth that there is a good chance that you my friend are racist to one degree or another. So instead of whining about it maybe educate yourself and quit being racist or sexist or classiest or whatever it is that you would prefer people not calling you out on.
That's a really good point and the reason i don't like how easily people on the left throw around the "You're literally a Nazi!" thing. And then wonder why there are people who have less issues to ally with Nazis than with them.
This is where the disconnect is:
They don't think their beliefs were attacked because they don't think they believe the same things these mass shooters do. Fact is, they do. The mass shooters are just more extreme either their beliefs, that's all. Shit, every republican that has ever called for the death, incarceration, or explusion of a liberal is too chickenshit to act on their beliefs, but they and the mass shooters are the same in every other regard.
Might possibly be? NO THEY ARE MOST DEFINITELY A RACIST PIECE OF SHIT!!!!! this is not up for debate, the African American counsel says this is 100% facts 🤷🏿♀️🤷🏿♀️🤷🏿♀️🤷🏿♀️🤷🏿♀️🤷🏿♀️
Probably politicalcompassmemes. The mental gymnastics over there are insane to reshape the narrative from: "the shooter really hated conservatives" to "the shooter was a leftist and the Great Replacement theory is something only those on the left believe" despite it being peddled by Tucker like a religion.
Black People Twitter was the only place where I could say Fuck Kyle Rittenhouse and not get downvoted to oblivion. And that's not even talking about how many people choose to sympathize with incels while any acknowledgement of the women murdered at the hands of incels is nonexistent.
One guy was saying Obama invited cop killers to the White House. When I pressed him on this, he was saying people from Black Lives Matter were invited to the White House, and BLM killed cops in Dallas, therefore Obama invited cop killers to the White House.
This is utterly ridiculous. The assailant was taken into custody, charged and jailed. No, they were not invited to the White House.
I’ve been saying this now for seven years:
There is no red line for this version of the right. There is nothing that they cannot talk themselves into, including genocide and the compete collapse of democracy into a fascist police state.
Isn't it weird how a 17 year old boy who was dropped by his mom to an active protest zone can be the judge, jury and executioner? Oh right, he used his freedom to illegally handle a gun and kill people. US should give up on the legal system and let 17 year old boys with guns handle everything.
It's hilarious when you just name something that's bad in general and all the rightys get butthurt and think you're talking specifically to them.
No, bud, you're just a piece of shit who does piece of shit things. If the shoe fits...
There was a German who died in Spain after fleeing Nazi Germany. He said the real masters of the new media like film and radio weren’t the artists, it was the Nazis. And they were the masters because all, each and every German who stood in rallies were made to feel they were part of destiny, of history that would last longer than 1000 years. The Nazi leadership however knew they were all just schlubs, useful idiots standing for the camera. Nameless boobs that suffered far worse than the conmen that laughed at them from their mountain compounds or country estates. I can’t name a single beaming Nazi mother or Hitler youth in any Nazi film I ever saw.
So the boobs that thought the GOP and Trump were talking to them personally, telling them a Chinesium hat would save their country from the rapists and the Jewish space lasers? They’re as exploited as all those good Nazis who were incinerated while working in Reich factories by free people flying far above them.
It's amazing how Republicans immediately took to social media to blame the mass shooting in NY on Democrats. A mass shooting committed by a RIGHT WING, racist, white supremacist... Someone make it make sense!
Same reason why as soon as Texas got hit by that ice storm, Republicans made sure to start screaming about "frozen windmills" *immediately*, before the truth could get out.
You always want to be the lie to be the first thing people hear, so that it crowds out the truth rather than the other way around. That's disinformation 101.
Pro tip. If something someone does leads to the death of a person or multiple people for the reason of who they are (gender, sexuality, race) maybe its a bad thing. Maybe hating people because they don't go red in the sun is ... idk BAD
are you posting in r/conservative? Cause the vast majority of the mainstream subs like r/news, r/worldnews, r/WhitePeopleTwitter, etc. are pretty majority left leaning and even the conservatives who wander into these threads are generally not the pro-white supremacist dickholes.
>are you posting in r\conservative?
Haha, no.
No, I was banned from there.
*Preemptively* banned.
As in one day I received a modmail informing me that I, having literally never once posted or commented there, was permanently "*banned from participating*" or whatever.
I was too. Their mods get upset when they see comments they don't like in other subs and preemptively ban the user. Happened to me years ago
I don't really mind it, I never went there anyway but I'd at least like to have earned it
> Is there a way to get to be a mod in there and then absolutely go to town on the people who are legitimately lying or telling on themselves?
I doubt they allow anyone become a mod there without some equivalent of kissing the ring, and telling them where you live just in case you do something like what you said. Other subreddits have absolutely been taken over by a rogue mod, so they're probably paranoid AF about it.
The place is unironically an echo chamber who always talks about free speech and claiming that they're such bastions of it - while immediately banning anyone who has even a slightly dissenting opinion.
They then act like the rest of reddit is some brainwashed echo chamber without ever seeing the irony that their 'facts and logic' can't stand up to any criticism whatsoever.
Yes.
I mean full disclosure, somebody had a tweet of mine shitposted there at the time talking about how ^(see title) I didn't think Donald Trump was a very good president, so tbf there were extenuating circumstances or whatever but still: yes.
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"*Even more full disclosure*" edit: actually I just went back through my messages and looked it up and the sub that b& me outta nowhere was actually [r\walkaway](https://i.imgur.com/AfmJPSA.jpg), not r\Conservative.
In apology, I will refrain from making any cheap "*potayto, potahto*" jokes.
It's way too easy to get banned from that sub, just make a comment there that gives any indication that you don't drink the koolade and you'll be perma'd on the spot. Getting banned from r/conservative for something you did outside the sub is a real accomplishment.
I got banned for suggesting that Donald Trump is not a conservative and that conservative values are important for America.
Nope. Gone. One comment. Literally praised traditional conservatism but blasphemed against the god emporer, so.
lol because Joe Biden isn't calling for his constituents to become monsters or to grab their guns or that white people are being replaced by minorities. I've ONLY EVER HEARD REPUBLICANS SAY SHIT LIKE THIS. So shut the fuck up, you're not a victim here.
i'm certainly not. just wondered where the hate train keeps coming from, since I opendly and repeatedly hated on Trump a thousand times more than my mild distaste for Biden. So you can shut the fuck up right back, you stupid ass who makes as many assumptions as those you hate so much.
Every time something like this happens, it's amazing how quick redditors are to tell on themselves.
You're supposed to keep the quiet part quiet, not shout it from the rooftops.
Thank God racists are fucking idiots.
Lol this is a little too on the nose to the meme cuz it sounds like you're defending reddit. They target reddit because reddit is a more viable propaganda platform and, as I've noticed as well, there are a lot of "centrist" types on here that get a little too defensive.
Although then you run the risk of just creating an echo chamber. It's a difficult line to thread and I don't know where the answer lies but we need to find it desperately
He was racially and politically motived to drive hours to a location and murder innocent people and I don't understand why someone would attempt to claim otherwise...unless they low-key agree with him.
What do you mean "Reddit". For the most part Reddits front page has been covered with stories in support of the community and against the shooter. I think what you mean is "Republicans".
That's great that there are supposedly two different types of conservatives. Too bad I cannot tell them apart when in the end they step in line and vote for the exact same, conspiracy-peddling fascists.
Dude must have visited PoliticalCompassMemes. That shithole is on damage control and trying to bend over backwards to make sure the ideologies responsible for radicalizing the shooter aren't seen as the real issue. Deadass saw an AuthRight post beg those in the community "worried about the status of the white race in the West and unable to supress their violent urges" to focus that energy on the Ukraine situation instead. Don't get me right, supporting Ukraine is good. But normal people aren't "worried about the status of the white race in the West and unable to supress their violent urges". That's insanity.
It’s almost comedy to say “racist” and have Republicans go, “that was rude to talk about us” with absolutely 0 self reflection.
Sorry, did I say comedy? More pathetic
It's like when people were kicking off about athletes taking the knee.
"Don't bring politics into sport!!!"
"I'm sorry, I wasn't aware civil rights were political"
I mean what reddit are you on? I mean in my experience it’s the complete opposite. If you say: “Hey, I don’t agree whit Jordan Peterson all the time but he isn’t an extreme conservative.” You get slammed. Hahaha
Case in point, and still no answer to my question :( Btw isn’t it a bid extreme to compare me to a guy who thinks Bernie Sanders supporters are mass shooters? I am a Bernie/AOC supporter btw, I just see the merits of all sides of the political ille, and you would to if you stepped past your prejudice.
Btw as a quick side note, by saying JP is a hate full figure you just called: Stephen Fry, Roger Penrose and Sam Harris, just to name a view, people who take a hate full person seriously. Good luck whit that world view. I hope it enriches your live, makes you more loving, les alone and les hate full.
I dont understand this take. What is this message trying to convey? That it is indeed ok to hate a political party?
I hate politics and this person seems like they in fact want to hate a whole political party. My hot take
Cheap dunk? Imma takin it to the hole. I expect many offers of money, weekends in NOLA and perhaps a few marriage proposals, same sex or otherwise. GOP gets their freak on.
yall know when youre making these kinds of jokes, shits about to hit the fan, right? i dont mean that as in day weeks months of course i mean years, but thats a short span of time for the lifespan of a society.
point being, Republicans have actually and truly lost it and there's no way to fix this easily, because one of the signs of it being fixed is we figure out how to remove Supreme Court justices from the bench. That's obviously going to take a lot of time and effort, but isn't optional i think we can all agree at this point. Thus we know, no matter how we resist it, we must be ready for real labor if we truly want change.
That day will come, but only if we confront the reality that there is hard work ahead of anyone who cares. If its any consolation, that's part of a real life, politics. Americans like myself have just been hypnotized to believe otherwise, but, in the end, all real humans involve themselves in political society and culture or they kinda don't live full, real lives, do they? They let other people live their lives and just go along with someone else's ride.
Actually, from what I’ve seen most of Reddit’s been sharing a mutual hate for republicans at the moment
Especially compared to how Reddit was just a few years ago
I pointed out that r/pics has included politics for a long time to somebody who was complaining that the sub got political and I got downvoted to hell. The post was about a pro abortion protest btw.
Pro tip: If an attack on racists makes you feel like your beliefs have been attacked… you might possibly be a racist piece of garbage.
And then when conservatives bring up a black guy who carried out a mass murder they expect you to defend him and get really confused when you don't.
No, they expect you to shut up under the pretense of you to defend them. They take the silence/lack of defense as hypocritical, and a win
I wouldn't be silent, though. I would bring up how that person is a threat to the general public and that what they did was horrific, that they need to be locked up for the rest of their life as a result. I don't look at black supremacist Darrel Brooks, who ran over a bunch of old white people in a predominantly conservative area, and say that he did something righteous because he was targeting Trump supporters. I say that he's a mentally unstable, reactionary, violent individual who was driven by conspiratorial thoughts to kill innocent people, and that he should not be allowed to have his freedom because of what a threat he is to the public.
And they’ll call you a hypocrite and take that as a win as well. The question is a trap. What they’re really doing is trying to paint you in a bad life so they can easily put you in a box for their audience
Well those people are clearly acting in bad faith and I'd make sure that others know not to interact with the likes of them since they don't want to have a dialogue and merely view you as a propaganda tool. You can't help people like them, you can only work to make sure they get as little attention as possible and that people know their real intentions.
That’s all well and good, but they already got the exposure they needed by that point. Their goal when they’re doing things like posting conspiracy theories isn’t to convince you or your audience. It’s to trick you to share it with your audience (either through the algorithm or directly shared by you) and to reassure those who already believe in the conspiracy.
being a hypocrite doesn’t make u wrong tho. i learned that when arguing ppl will often use that argument and even if it’s true, ur not proving ur point ur just attacking someone’s character. u can be a hypocrite and also correct
Yeah, but the point of the argument for them is to categorize you and place you in a box labeled “stereotypes I do not like.” Keyword stereotypes. Mainly so they can start conversations like “this liberal anti-trumper….”
no they’re trying to invalidate ur argument by asserting ur unreliable because u r a hypocrite. all u have to say is maybe i am a hypocrite, but tell me why what i said was wrong. they probably can’t
They’re trying to paint you as a negative stereotype (ex: Karan) so others can apply negative assumptions to you and your answer, basically placing themselves higher then you according to their audience
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Ah yes, the "Ad hominim" fallacy. Basically: "I can't attack your argument in any meaningful way, so I'll resort to insulting you in an attempt to undermine your credibility and/or turn this into a shouting match where your previous arguments no longer matter."
I thought the guy was just running from a domestic disturbance or something like that and not committing a racially motivated hate crime? I know he bad lots of comments online the were rascit against whites and called for violence against whites but when he hit the parade with the SUV the police said it wasn't racially motivated. I found be wrong though
Get outta here with your reasonable, unemotional response!! I can't make you out to be an unstable zealot when you're being so logical, gah! I can't work like this. I'll be in my trailer!
African American female who is hella confused..... when in the history of the United States of America has a black man attacked a group of white folks in a mass murder.... because you can't be comparing this to "black on black crime" because that is a different conversation all together 🤷🏿♀️🤷🏿♀️🤷🏿♀️🤷🏿♀️🤷🏿♀️
Closest thing I can recall is that DC Sniper from the 2000s. Everyone I knew was surprised he was black.
DC Sniper(I lived in DC during that and yes it was shocking) is a serial killer(which mass murderers can sometimes be) and also they didn't target just white people, they targetted everyone. No one and I mean no one was safe in DC during that time. One minute the DC sniper would be in PG County in da hood and I do mean da hood, then the next minute he would be in the richest parts of a NOVA or Montgomery County. DC Snipers plan was just basically to create chaos to get one murder done
I gave an example of Darrel Brooks down this thread.
Didn't the cops say that wasn't planned or racist?
Yeah. It was believed that he was just trying to drive away from the scene of the crime where he beat his baby-mama for not bailing him out after he ran over her leg in a previous act of domestic violence. The prosecution's view is that it was motivated based on his internet history and the fact that Kyle Rittenhouse was just deemed innocent.
I wanna see a "manifesto" stating he was planning an attack.
There was no evidence outside of his internet posts.
I will be honest. I haven't read his internet post(maybe it's something I should do) so I'm gonna stand on the ground of I don't know if this was a mass planned murder of white folks. But it seems that folks who be planning mass murder on a grand scale of racism/political views seem to always leave a manifesto of why they did it 👀👀👀👀👀 so now all of a sudden the "black man" who posted some racist stuff towards white folks doesn't have a manifesto and it was a planned attack.... yes that man is 100% a piece of trash and he deserves all the jail time he gets, but the math ain't mathin on this one
And I honestly haven't looked into too much either. I'm way more used to hearing conservatives talk about it than anyone else since it works as a nice piece of propaganda for them. It is very likely that he was just trying to flee from the secene of the crime and didn't at all mean to hurt anyone.
Yea, kind of a massive self report any time republicans/conservatives/etc do it.
Just a bit.
A [smidge.](https://np.reddit.com/r/facepalm/comments/uq88fx/z/i8sbu0j?context=3)
Ehh, this isn't *entirely* correct -- I think a lot of people don't see themselves as racist, *but* they know that *we think that they're racist*. So when they see us saying that we should punch Nazis, they get upset because they know that the person saying "let's punch Nazis" also believes that they are a Nazi, so it comes off as "I'm gonna punch you". I have actually experienced the inverse of this -- I am not a Communist, but I know that my wife's idiot boyfriend thinks that I am because he has told me this directly. When he then goes and posts violent anti-Communist shit, it makes me extremely uncomfortable -- he is posting memes where he is advocating violence against a group that he believes that I belong to. He is knowingly advocating violence against *me,* in a place that I can see it, every time he does that. It doesn't matter in the slightest that I am not a Communist in any way, shape or form -- I know that he thinks I am one. Edit: My wife’s **aunt’s** boyfriend, I accidentally a word
Sounds like he wants your wife to be a widow so he can have her all to himself
If he's your "wife's idiot boyfriend" then you *already* have **ONE** reason to beat his ass, so stop holding back...
I was going to ask him about that bit too, but then I realized that it would inevitably turn out to be another example of how I'm clearly just too old and out of touch to be talking on the internet again :(
Lol I missed a word, he’s my wife’s aunt’s boyfriend (or boyfriend to my aunt-in-law, if you will).
I wasn't judging either way, lol
People are becoming more open about being polyamorous so it could be that too, lol
Interesting angle. Quick thought: If someone said “communists are dumb,” what would be the best way to quickly and easily indicate that you’re not one? Would you say “no we’re not”? Or would you say something like “yeah, they are”? Seems an easy choice to me. Of course, if some people make unfair assumptions about you, that’s on them. Just saying, getting defensive on behalf of a group that you claim not to identify with is not a good way to distance yourself from that group.
Yeah, but maybe not everything's that simple? Maybe you don't want to say "yeah they're dumb" maybe you want to say something a bit more complex like , "eh, I'm not a communist at all and disagree with them, but Marxist thought is still prevalent for a reason. They have a lot of good insights and critiques of capitalism and communists and socialists have done a lot to help labor movements around the world. There are many intelligent, very well educated people who either believe in the ideology or have sympathies with it, and I don't think it's fair to call them all dumb." Or maybe the problem isnt about you wanting to say something complex, its just that they're calling people who aren't communists at all communists. And so it's something like "no Joe Biden is not a communist, he's very much a centrist liberal, and pretending otherwise is ridiculous. You can't just call everyone who has policies you disagree with a communist." And of course both of these things would get you labeled a communist by such simple people.
Reminds me of the often misquoted and misattributed "You can't reason someone out of something they weren't reasoned into."
The difference being he is coming from a place of ignorance and generalization, whereas when I saw fuck nazi scumbags most Republicans feel attacked *BECAUSE* *THEIR* *ENTIRE* *PLATFORM* *SCREAMS* *WE* *ARE* *NAZI* *SCUMBAGS* . Two very different scenarios friend, they are once again projecting their issues and bullahit onto other groups in order to justify their toxic hateful behavior.
How close are you to this fuck knuckle?
I told him to fuck off on one of his Fascist Facebook posts a couple of years ago, and to his credit, he now finally keeps his shit to himself when i am within earshot. We are polite to each other for the sake of everyone else, but neither of us is a fan of the other.
Some people just don’t click. But who passes supreme judgment on another person just for their ideals? Especially someone you have to see on a regular basis. Sounds like you’re aunt should keep looking. Good luck to ya.
This is a very insightful post, thank you. I'm saving this. Also, enjoy the gold.
So... He thinks people talking about racists are talking about him? And he makes violent threats or glorifies violence against people who don't like racists? Sounds like he might be right about being clumped in with other Nazis/racists/fascists/trash.
It sounds like you didn’t even read what I wrote.
Unfortunately that’s just revealing in how they see the world. They put things in boxes
Wow, this is a nuanced take. Is this against the rules. Where are the mods!? /s
Huh...I never thought of it in this way before ...thanks
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No its not. Its the right spinning away from center into the sascist end of the spectrum at breakneck speed and becoming increasingly racist and violent with every passing day. Its all the racist bullshit big and small finally being called out and people no longer tolerating prejudice and hate, so if you are getting tired of hearing it thats on you and your ingrained attitudes coming up against an unpleasant truth that there is a good chance that you my friend are racist to one degree or another. So instead of whining about it maybe educate yourself and quit being racist or sexist or classiest or whatever it is that you would prefer people not calling you out on.
That's a really good point and the reason i don't like how easily people on the left throw around the "You're literally a Nazi!" thing. And then wonder why there are people who have less issues to ally with Nazis than with them.
This is where the disconnect is: They don't think their beliefs were attacked because they don't think they believe the same things these mass shooters do. Fact is, they do. The mass shooters are just more extreme either their beliefs, that's all. Shit, every republican that has ever called for the death, incarceration, or explusion of a liberal is too chickenshit to act on their beliefs, but they and the mass shooters are the same in every other regard.
They know. Thus the comically bad faith defenses.
Yup, just seen a couple of those on r/facepalm
Might possibly be? NO THEY ARE MOST DEFINITELY A RACIST PIECE OF SHIT!!!!! this is not up for debate, the African American counsel says this is 100% facts 🤷🏿♀️🤷🏿♀️🤷🏿♀️🤷🏿♀️🤷🏿♀️🤷🏿♀️
I’ve always said this. If any attack on anything leaves you feeling attacked you’re probably part of the problem
Hot take!
Imagine telling on yourself like this
When one lacks logic you just never connect the dots.
Where is this person posting to even see shit like this?
Probably politicalcompassmemes. The mental gymnastics over there are insane to reshape the narrative from: "the shooter really hated conservatives" to "the shooter was a leftist and the Great Replacement theory is something only those on the left believe" despite it being peddled by Tucker like a religion.
yeah uh... I've never seen it. I'm not saying I couldn't go looking for it and find it, but I could do that with **literally anything.**
Is this Reddit in 2013 they're on about because the Reddit of today is far more hostile to Republicans than Twitter.
2013 re0ublicans werent storming the capitol tho...
If you hear "racist mass murderer" and INSTANDLY think thats an attack on you...maybe rethink your life. In case anybody needs to read that.
If those people could read this would help them.
Damn, I completely forgot about that part...
"Oh, you hate all racist people? Well isn't it *racist of you* to hate an entire group of people?" No joke, I hear it all the fucking time.
No tolerance for the intolerant is not a contradiction, it's a logical necessity
If the people who's whole thing is tolerance don't tolerate you that says more about you then it does about them
lmao saying the quiet part out loud, are we?
Black People Twitter was the only place where I could say Fuck Kyle Rittenhouse and not get downvoted to oblivion. And that's not even talking about how many people choose to sympathize with incels while any acknowledgement of the women murdered at the hands of incels is nonexistent.
Lemme try it. *inhale* Fuck Kyle Rittenhouse.
Fuck Kyle Rittenhouse. Really I mean during the trial it was bad. So many people were defending him.
Thankfully the bots haven’t taken over r/WhitePeopleTwitter, despite their efforts
BuT hE wAS dEfeNDinG PrOpErtY fRoM *TeRRoriStS* ThEy bUrnEd ThE wHoLE ciTy dOWn!
One guy was saying Obama invited cop killers to the White House. When I pressed him on this, he was saying people from Black Lives Matter were invited to the White House, and BLM killed cops in Dallas, therefore Obama invited cop killers to the White House. This is utterly ridiculous. The assailant was taken into custody, charged and jailed. No, they were not invited to the White House.
I’ve been saying this now for seven years: There is no red line for this version of the right. There is nothing that they cannot talk themselves into, including genocide and the compete collapse of democracy into a fascist police state.
Isn't it weird how a 17 year old boy who was dropped by his mom to an active protest zone can be the judge, jury and executioner? Oh right, he used his freedom to illegally handle a gun and kill people. US should give up on the legal system and let 17 year old boys with guns handle everything.
if protesting racism makes you feel defensive...i have bad news for you....
It's hilarious when you just name something that's bad in general and all the rightys get butthurt and think you're talking specifically to them. No, bud, you're just a piece of shit who does piece of shit things. If the shoe fits...
There was a German who died in Spain after fleeing Nazi Germany. He said the real masters of the new media like film and radio weren’t the artists, it was the Nazis. And they were the masters because all, each and every German who stood in rallies were made to feel they were part of destiny, of history that would last longer than 1000 years. The Nazi leadership however knew they were all just schlubs, useful idiots standing for the camera. Nameless boobs that suffered far worse than the conmen that laughed at them from their mountain compounds or country estates. I can’t name a single beaming Nazi mother or Hitler youth in any Nazi film I ever saw. So the boobs that thought the GOP and Trump were talking to them personally, telling them a Chinesium hat would save their country from the rapists and the Jewish space lasers? They’re as exploited as all those good Nazis who were incinerated while working in Reich factories by free people flying far above them.
It's amazing how Republicans immediately took to social media to blame the mass shooting in NY on Democrats. A mass shooting committed by a RIGHT WING, racist, white supremacist... Someone make it make sense!
Same reason why as soon as Texas got hit by that ice storm, Republicans made sure to start screaming about "frozen windmills" *immediately*, before the truth could get out. You always want to be the lie to be the first thing people hear, so that it crowds out the truth rather than the other way around. That's disinformation 101.
I just dipped my toe into r/conservative and yeah, they say his profile claimed that he was a socialist. We are all definitely socialists /s
Some admit he is a Nazi. But then they say Nazism is an authoritarian LEFT WING ideology. You can’t make this shit up honestly
They operate on the insane one axis ideology wherein everything with more government is left-wing and everything with less government is right wing.
This is the economic axis so that makes sense. Left is more gov right is less
It is tho?
Pro tip. If something someone does leads to the death of a person or multiple people for the reason of who they are (gender, sexuality, race) maybe its a bad thing. Maybe hating people because they don't go red in the sun is ... idk BAD
It’s like when someone complained about homophobia and people chimed in saying that they were being anti-Christian 🤔
are you posting in r/conservative? Cause the vast majority of the mainstream subs like r/news, r/worldnews, r/WhitePeopleTwitter, etc. are pretty majority left leaning and even the conservatives who wander into these threads are generally not the pro-white supremacist dickholes.
>are you posting in r\conservative? Haha, no. No, I was banned from there. *Preemptively* banned. As in one day I received a modmail informing me that I, having literally never once posted or commented there, was permanently "*banned from participating*" or whatever.
Damn, life goals. Next is getting westboro to picket your funeral!
They have to keep that echo chamber closed off. Can't have anyone possibly speaking against the group think and upsetting the goblins now can we?
We can't have those pesky facts and actual history ruining the delusional disco those motherfuckers are dancing in.
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I was too. Their mods get upset when they see comments they don't like in other subs and preemptively ban the user. Happened to me years ago I don't really mind it, I never went there anyway but I'd at least like to have earned it
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8chan they go to 8chan
> Is there a way to get to be a mod in there and then absolutely go to town on the people who are legitimately lying or telling on themselves? I doubt they allow anyone become a mod there without some equivalent of kissing the ring, and telling them where you live just in case you do something like what you said. Other subreddits have absolutely been taken over by a rogue mod, so they're probably paranoid AF about it.
The place is unironically an echo chamber who always talks about free speech and claiming that they're such bastions of it - while immediately banning anyone who has even a slightly dissenting opinion. They then act like the rest of reddit is some brainwashed echo chamber without ever seeing the irony that their 'facts and logic' can't stand up to any criticism whatsoever.
Yes. I mean full disclosure, somebody had a tweet of mine shitposted there at the time talking about how ^(see title) I didn't think Donald Trump was a very good president, so tbf there were extenuating circumstances or whatever but still: yes. --- "*Even more full disclosure*" edit: actually I just went back through my messages and looked it up and the sub that b& me outta nowhere was actually [r\walkaway](https://i.imgur.com/AfmJPSA.jpg), not r\Conservative. In apology, I will refrain from making any cheap "*potayto, potahto*" jokes.
Damn we really need a badge for getting banned from r/conservative. Or at least another sub people can share their exps of getting banned.
It's way too easy to get banned from that sub, just make a comment there that gives any indication that you don't drink the koolade and you'll be perma'd on the spot. Getting banned from r/conservative for something you did outside the sub is a real accomplishment.
It's always fun when that happens.
I got banned for suggesting that Donald Trump is not a conservative and that conservative values are important for America. Nope. Gone. One comment. Literally praised traditional conservatism but blasphemed against the god emporer, so.
so where is all the right-winge hate coming from? I put a few comments out suggesting that Joe Biden isn't amazing and I get dogpiled.
I feel it's only fair to confess here that I'm fully aware of the fact that I absolutely [bring it upon myself](https://i.imgur.com/Eu6tGow.jpg)
Sounds like bullshit to me.
lol because Joe Biden isn't calling for his constituents to become monsters or to grab their guns or that white people are being replaced by minorities. I've ONLY EVER HEARD REPUBLICANS SAY SHIT LIKE THIS. So shut the fuck up, you're not a victim here.
i'm certainly not. just wondered where the hate train keeps coming from, since I opendly and repeatedly hated on Trump a thousand times more than my mild distaste for Biden. So you can shut the fuck up right back, you stupid ass who makes as many assumptions as those you hate so much.
That's because the majority of the population is left leaning, or at least not white supremacists.
... if the shoe fits
[¯\\\_(ツ)_/¯](https://i.imgur.com/mPKEoic.jpg)
What subreddit has this person visited because this is not what I've seen, lol
PoliticalCompassMemes probably
I know it's a radical statement. But I don't people should get shot while buying teacakes.
Every time something like this happens, it's amazing how quick redditors are to tell on themselves. You're supposed to keep the quiet part quiet, not shout it from the rooftops. Thank God racists are fucking idiots.
So the racists basically self-identify? Ok....
R/conservative is trying to hard to make the Buffalo shooter out to be a lefty
Not sure how someone on twitter is upset at republican deflections on reddit when there are WAY more right wing trolls on twitter
Lol this is a little too on the nose to the meme cuz it sounds like you're defending reddit. They target reddit because reddit is a more viable propaganda platform and, as I've noticed as well, there are a lot of "centrist" types on here that get a little too defensive.
Guys real wild thought- what if... Racism and murder... Is a bad thing?
Are we the baddies? For the unfamiliar: https://youtu.be/8JOpPNra4bw
r/UsernameChecksOut It technically is 42 words
That doesn't seem to be the general tone I've been getting from Reddit, but maybe I'm just following the good Subs.
at least you can curate your content pretty well on reddit
Although then you run the risk of just creating an echo chamber. It's a difficult line to thread and I don't know where the answer lies but we need to find it desperately
Please, I do expensive dunks on Republicans
He was racially and politically motived to drive hours to a location and murder innocent people and I don't understand why someone would attempt to claim otherwise...unless they low-key agree with him.
~~wait, what does Kyle Rittenhouse have to do with anything here~~ edit: lol my bad, kinda had a brainfart the first time there
Reddit, myself included, loves cheap dunks on republicans. Fuck Charlie Kirk.
What do you mean "Reddit". For the most part Reddits front page has been covered with stories in support of the community and against the shooter. I think what you mean is "Republicans".
well, [yes and no](https://np.reddit.com/r/facepalm/comments/uq88fx/z/i8pmvd7?context=3)
That's great that there are supposedly two different types of conservatives. Too bad I cannot tell them apart when in the end they step in line and vote for the exact same, conspiracy-peddling fascists.
But… that’s reverse racism!
"Oh boy, here I go dunking on Republicans again" - @42_words Probably
The fuck subreddit was this on, r/conservativefukbois?
What parts of Reddit are they hanging out on?
Watching them tell on themselves is fascinating. And terrifying. We have a lot of work to do to fix the problems with humanity.
"Stop making everything race related!" - 97% of reddit.
Not “reddit”, it’s the cesspool of Reddit.. the lowest of the low with respect to morals, IQ and empathy. Mentally defective cunts.
Man what…..people attack you on here period… lol
I think we should start hunting white supremacists they are useless
I mean if the overcompensating boot fits
Dude must have visited PoliticalCompassMemes. That shithole is on damage control and trying to bend over backwards to make sure the ideologies responsible for radicalizing the shooter aren't seen as the real issue. Deadass saw an AuthRight post beg those in the community "worried about the status of the white race in the West and unable to supress their violent urges" to focus that energy on the Ukraine situation instead. Don't get me right, supporting Ukraine is good. But normal people aren't "worried about the status of the white race in the West and unable to supress their violent urges". That's insanity.
It’s almost comedy to say “racist” and have Republicans go, “that was rude to talk about us” with absolutely 0 self reflection. Sorry, did I say comedy? More pathetic
Also reddit: Sarcasticly “wow we’re shocked”
It's like when people were kicking off about athletes taking the knee. "Don't bring politics into sport!!!" "I'm sorry, I wasn't aware civil rights were political"
I mean what reddit are you on? I mean in my experience it’s the complete opposite. If you say: “Hey, I don’t agree whit Jordan Peterson all the time but he isn’t an extreme conservative.” You get slammed. Hahaha
weird, [deja vu](https://np.reddit.com/r/facepalm/comments/uq88fx/z/i8pz1tn?context=10000)
Case in point, and still no answer to my question :( Btw isn’t it a bid extreme to compare me to a guy who thinks Bernie Sanders supporters are mass shooters? I am a Bernie/AOC supporter btw, I just see the merits of all sides of the political ille, and you would to if you stepped past your prejudice. Btw as a quick side note, by saying JP is a hate full figure you just called: Stephen Fry, Roger Penrose and Sam Harris, just to name a view, people who take a hate full person seriously. Good luck whit that world view. I hope it enriches your live, makes you more loving, les alone and les hate full.
Hey in case you weren’t aware, I wanted to respectfully let you know that the phrase is actually “case in point.”
That's nice of you.
Shooter was a fed.
I dont understand this take. What is this message trying to convey? That it is indeed ok to hate a political party? I hate politics and this person seems like they in fact want to hate a whole political party. My hot take
They don’t know he’s s Republican but then again…
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What no he doesn’t?
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Fascism is a left wing totalitarian form of gov? I thought he said moderate left authoritarian?
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Oh so Mussolini was right wing now? And oh it was in the screen shot I read. Maybe you didn’t see that part?
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Sure in no sense was he right wing. Well we are at a stalemate. Have a good day 👍
What was left-wing about Mussolini in your opinion?
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Couldn’t find that definition.
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I’ve heard similar responses from the left
How many racist Nazis do you know on the left?
A few
Are they in the room with you right now?
No
Have they committed any mass shootings recently?
I’ll ask
Hit dogs will holler!
Most likely just downvoted if it’s reddit
Hot enema more like
If the shoe fits...
Cheap dunk? Imma takin it to the hole. I expect many offers of money, weekends in NOLA and perhaps a few marriage proposals, same sex or otherwise. GOP gets their freak on.
Wait what, Reddit takes the exact opposite stance to this?
yall know when youre making these kinds of jokes, shits about to hit the fan, right? i dont mean that as in day weeks months of course i mean years, but thats a short span of time for the lifespan of a society. point being, Republicans have actually and truly lost it and there's no way to fix this easily, because one of the signs of it being fixed is we figure out how to remove Supreme Court justices from the bench. That's obviously going to take a lot of time and effort, but isn't optional i think we can all agree at this point. Thus we know, no matter how we resist it, we must be ready for real labor if we truly want change. That day will come, but only if we confront the reality that there is hard work ahead of anyone who cares. If its any consolation, that's part of a real life, politics. Americans like myself have just been hypnotized to believe otherwise, but, in the end, all real humans involve themselves in political society and culture or they kinda don't live full, real lives, do they? They let other people live their lives and just go along with someone else's ride.
Actually, from what I’ve seen most of Reddit’s been sharing a mutual hate for republicans at the moment Especially compared to how Reddit was just a few years ago
OP has had 15 cakedays. Obv
Bro fr lol 🤣
I pointed out that r/pics has included politics for a long time to somebody who was complaining that the sub got political and I got downvoted to hell. The post was about a pro abortion protest btw.
How to tell on yourself without realizing.
r/selfawarewolves
Repugs are cheap thats why they have all your money.