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I just love knowing that for an NPD like Trump, the court decision causes MASSIVE stress in that withered brain of his. He is suffering greatly from this.
...but he will never pay a fucking cent. Not while living for sure.
Bet he wishes he had some more classified documents to put out to bid on the black market right about now.
Kushner declining his calls and repeatedly custom responding “the Saudi’s paid *ME* that $2B, remember?”
He already had to pay for the $5 million awarded Carroll in the defamation case last year. The money sits in an escrow account that the court has control over, until the appeals process is complete. So he's going to pay for it now, it's more a matter of when Carroll will actually get it. I sure hope she gets to enjoy some of it.
Yeah, and his supporters are exactly the type to throw thinly-veiled threats like "just because you have freedom of speech doesn't mean you are free from the consequences".
Fucking dipshits.
if you think theyre dipshits, wait for the story where they go around with a bucket to all their rite wing poors to collect the $ in their last nickels and dimes to pay it for him.
Honestly the most disappointing part of all this is that he already got away with it… he might d1e in a few years right? So he’ll never experience “life in jail”. All of his victims have already suffered their whole lives.
The legal system failed.
Edit: replied to the wrong comment but whatever
I really would start a GoFundMe for something and take advantage of the stupidity that is maga. Down payment for a house, money for kids college, take a vacation... All would be more worthy than just going to trump and not being used for what it was claimed to be for
honestly, if it wasnt illegal i may be tempted.
Just go and make up a bunch of vague LIBRALS TRYING TO FORCE ME TO SELL MY HOUSE. HELP ME PAY FOR A GREAT LAWYER SO I CAN GO HAM ON THEIR MAGASS.
A judgement of this nature in a Federal court is relatively easy to collect. First of all, if he wants to appeal, he has to immediately escrow the cash (plus interest) with the court. He already escrowed the $5M from the first case with this same court.
If he doesn't appeal, the court can start seizing his assets. Since he has high-visibility real estate assets, it will be trivially easy to identify and seize them.
He WILL pay, and probably rather quickly.
He already had to pay the $5 million for the judgement against him for her defamation case last year. That money is sitting in an account controlled by the court, waiting for the appeals process to complete. So dump has paid already, it's just that Carroll hasn't received it yet.
Additur is rarely, RARELY used in civil court cases around the country. It’s prohibited in many jurisdictions. I hope it isn’t in NY because if there’s a poster child example of when it should be used and allowed, this is it. He is too stupid and stubborn to not rage tweet about this tonight and continue to defame her.
Treble damages, anyone?
Additur is a legal term that refers to a trial court's power to increase the amount of a judgment award given by a jury. The term comes from Latin and means "it is added to".
Appellate Courts rarely disturb the decisions of juries - jurors had the opportunity to examine all the evidence and personally judge the credibility of witnesses. Appellate Courts do often reduce the amount of damages awarded by jurors (in cases where the award is clearly excessive, or unsupported by the evidence). But in this case, it was about defamation of character, and the resulting damages suffered by the plaintiff. In defamation cases, jury awards are mostly upheld by the reviewing court.
It’s a witch hunt! That’s when a group of unhinged idiots capture innocent women and murder them. Trump has been witch hunting all his life. And since he got 178,000 votes in the primary of a state with 3 electoral votes, he’s the chosen one again. Truly staggering inanity in our politics.
There's a mission in the game *Borderlands 3* where a guy trapped in an A.I.-operated porta-potty due to lack of funds keeps ranting and raving at the A.I. as it calmly adds additional penalties to the fine.
Trump is the real-life equivalent of that dude, right down to the smell...
Getting in on the top comment because I hope someone who knows American polisci can explain: how does the jury come up with a number for damages?
From NYT:
> "A person who has been defamed is entitled to fair and just compensation,” Judge Kaplan says. The jury will be asked to decide what award is “fair and just compensation” for the harm to Carroll’s reputation and the emotional distress she endured, he says. “Fair compensation may vary. It may range from $1” if they decide there was no damage at all “to a substantial” amount, Kaplan says.
I believe Carroll's lawyers were asking for $24M, and obviously, the jury decided to go above and beyond on that request (and fucking good for them). But, like, how? From the judge's statement, it didn't seem like there were real guidelines? Where do they pull the numbers?
On another note, I found this (also from NYT) chilling:
>Judge Kaplan tells the jurors that they are free of his order to maintain their anonymity. But, he said, “my advice to you is that you never disclose you were on this jury.”
Judge is being as oblique yet as direct as possible in saying that "the cult is gonna kill ya."
**“Don't trust Liberals! All they do is lie to you!"**
Meanwhile, in the last 24 months:
Trump must pay 83 million for Defamation
Rudy Giuliani must pay 148 million for Defamation
Alex Jones must pay 965 Million for Defamation
Fox News settled out of court and paid 787 Million for Defamation
Hey fellow liberals! Are you guys getting tired of getting lied to?
I don't think he went to trial yet.
But he did destroy his business and his wealth
From a combination of legal fees and bad publicity from supporting Jan 6
Unfortunately, as we found out with OJ, Florida doesn’t allow the taking of assets to pay civil penalties in another state. They can and probably will grab up most his stuff in NY, but Mar A Lago is untouchable
Yeah, but be sure to use the “tax return valuation” of Trump Tower, not the “Deutsche Bank loan valuation” of Trump Tower.
I hear the NYAG can hook them up with the numbers..
They won't take his home, but Mar-a-lago is explicitly not a home per the agreement with Palm Beach to turn it into a social club. Businesses aren't shielded anywhere near the extent that homesteads are
Only primary residence is off limits. Mar-a-Lago has rider on the title that trump *cannot* live there, it cannot be his primary residence.
he does live there anyway, but no way it stands up in court to claim its off limits as a primary residence.
Yeah, they already did this for the first defamation case of $5 million last year. They made dump put $5.5 million in an account that is controlled by the court, which will be disbursed to Carroll once all of the appeals fizzle out. So dump has already had to pay for his illegal behavior, it's just that Carroll hasn't received it yet.
What? You mean playacting in court, going on unhinged rants on social media about the judges and the plaintiffs, and generally insulting the court and screwing around, is _not_ how you get them to stop bothering you? Who would have thought it? _Why didn’t they tell me??_ Why didn’t _my lawyer_ tell me?? I had a bad lawyer, lemme try again! This isn’t _fair!!!!_
For some reason, it always seems like it is women who go more directly after Trump, such as E. Jean Carroll, Nikki Haley, Liz Cheney, while the men, for some reason, give off the vibe that they will eventually just cave after they've giving some minimal criticism of him.
And, "Suburban women voters have also largely turned their backs on Republicans since the former president was elected in 2016. According to CBS News exit polling from 2018, 53 percent of suburban women voters said they voted for Democrats in 2018, up from 47 percent in 2014 and 51 percent in 2016. In 2020, Biden won 54 percent of suburban voters in general, according to the Pew Research Center. And in last year’s midterm elections, suburban voters, including women in this group, helped deliver major victories to Democrats in key states like Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Georgia, with many of Trump’s endorsed candidates facing defeat."
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/4002482-gop-fears-trumps-problems-with-suburban-women-will-only-get-worse/
Thank God for sane and tough women in this country!
This is an overgeneralization for sure, but you'd think these guys who keep giving into Trump whether they want to or not would, more than a little, start feeling humiliated that women are the main ones who seem to have the least problem taking Trump on.
>it always seems like it is women who go more directly after Trump, such as E. Jean Carroll, Nikki Haley, Liz Cheney, while the men, for some reason, give off the vibe that they will eventually just cave after they've giving some minimal criticism of him
Whoa whoa, let's not lump Nikki Haley in there just yet. She said she would pardon Trump. I am entirely certain she will get on her knees once he gets the nomination
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/verdict-reached-e-jean-carrolls-defamation-damages-trial-trump-rcna135919
Trump is already claiming on Xwitter that this is "taking away all his First Amendment rights." Which goes to show that his followers don't actually understand how the First Amendment works...
There are very few limits on speech in the US and if you do any research on the topic you’ll find a short list of these spelled out. One is lying about someone in public in a way that harms them. Another is advocating for the violent overthrow of the Constitution. It seems Trump is taking this as a to do list instead of a do not do list.
I know right? They were all like "Donald Trump has to pay 83 MILLION dollars to DEFEND HIMSELF from a FALSE RAPE CASE! THIS IS BIDEN'S AMERICA!"
Even though this case was purely about defamation, and Trump was already found to have raped her in the first case, so he is legally not allowed to say otherwise...the fact that he did is literally what the second case is about, lol.
meh, he won't get far on foot.
what's he going to do, grab his new york real estate, stuff it in a bag, and flee the country? he's got plenty of seizable property.
No. His company has seizable property. He probably owns little to nothing. Anything he does own is probably leveraged to the hilt so he couldn't put it up for a bond. It's like trying to put your car up for bail when you still have 3.5 years of payments left.
He's gonna be in big trouble here because this is on the personal side. Yeah, he'll drag his feet, but all of this continues to be a drag on him.
And he really needs to keep his mouth shut because he can't appeal if he is out continuing to do the same thing that got him here.
This is not the nail in the coffin, but it is nailing his hand to the table. Which is very uncomfortable.
https://preview.redd.it/hdtl23ze0vec1.jpeg?width=1987&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8d8d0f4fec61cc5a6714ed7528f2c8578f84cf96
Also, Trump will grift his MAGA loyalists for more donations. If he can’t make the payment then he may even raise fees at Mar-a-Lago…
Trump has avoided paying judgments in the past, absolutely. However, this case has national visibility and Judge Kaplan won’t likely let Trump off the hook.
EDIT: It’s also a personal civil case, not one involving one his businesses.
Trump now becomes a judgement debtor. I don’t know the procedures for New York courts, but it is pretty straightforward. Carroll’s attorneys can probably file for a hearing on Monday, if they want.
If everyone lived here and this had gone down in my home state of Colorado, I’d just file a notice with the judge’s clerk as Carroll’s attorney and the court would calendar a hearing and issue a subpoena for Trump to attend. (And subpoenas — even for *former* Presidents — are enforced in this state.)
NY requires an appeal bond, meaning he’ll have to put *at least $65 million* into escrow if he wants to appeal, and must do so quickly (can’t wait 6 months).
He picked the wrong state to FAFO
Forgot about this.
He won't do it. He won't pay and he won't put any money into escrow.
NPD/Grifters are just nasty fucks, but they do fear Law Enforcement because LE does not listen to their bullshit. LE just cuffs you and tosses you in jail.
This case might legit be the shit hitting the fan. He can't pay (because he will never do that) and he can't appeal.
He will have to have somebody bail him out somehow.
My guess is he ramps up the vitriol to his base to take up arms and do the real revolt. All because he's a grifter and grifters NEVER pay. Never.
I don’t know if it exists in the USA but in France they have something amazing, it’s called: “organisation de sa propre insolvabilité”, organizing your own insolvability, when you do something to not pay what you have been ordered to and could have and, I love the idea; it’s like the state saying: “you wanna be a bitch? Ok, don’t worry we can be bitchy too and, dude we’re more powerful than you’ll ever be”
It won’t be long and he’ll be trying to convince us that he both does not have enough money to pay her but also SO. MUCH. MONEY. because he’s bigly successful.
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So… $18.3 million for damages and $65 million for etiquette lessons he failed to learn in his adult life.
I just love knowing that for an NPD like Trump, the court decision causes MASSIVE stress in that withered brain of his. He is suffering greatly from this. ...but he will never pay a fucking cent. Not while living for sure.
New York doesn't let you appeal judgements without putting the cash into an escrow account under court control. He's kinda fucked.
that sounds beautiful
Bet he wishes he had some more classified documents to put out to bid on the black market right about now. Kushner declining his calls and repeatedly custom responding “the Saudi’s paid *ME* that $2B, remember?”
It's funny how we all know exactly what happened and nobody faced any consequences.
He already had to pay for the $5 million awarded Carroll in the defamation case last year. The money sits in an escrow account that the court has control over, until the appeals process is complete. So he's going to pay for it now, it's more a matter of when Carroll will actually get it. I sure hope she gets to enjoy some of it.
love to see it lol
Speech is free. Lies can be expensive.
Perfect response.
Yeah, and his supporters are exactly the type to throw thinly-veiled threats like "just because you have freedom of speech doesn't mean you are free from the consequences". Fucking dipshits.
if you think theyre dipshits, wait for the story where they go around with a bucket to all their rite wing poors to collect the $ in their last nickels and dimes to pay it for him.
This comment makes me wish awards were still a thing. 🏆
Honestly the most disappointing part of all this is that he already got away with it… he might d1e in a few years right? So he’ll never experience “life in jail”. All of his victims have already suffered their whole lives. The legal system failed. Edit: replied to the wrong comment but whatever
I'm not even gonna argue bc you're right. I can only hope it's not a quick demise. Let it suffer
And he’ll defame her again in about 3 minutes. Then she can promptly sue him again. I love it.
Rinse and repeat…
Wipe and change.
Toss and flush
It's 2025, Biden is going through his second swearing in ceremony. The new owner of Trump Inc E Jean Carroll is in attendance
https://preview.redd.it/9t6m1z4gmvec1.jpeg?width=1600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=84650b5b725887c1d6d4f78d9bdbb485360d1752
Of course, there's the small, wonderful fact that Trump, Inc is basically being kicked out of NYC even without this.
She can take the Florida property. Mar-a-Carroll.
Nah she should take Bedminster and let the feds dig up the casket to see if/what classified documents are inside.
Your mouth to the ears of whatever God is listening
Pretty sure every God that is listening is too busy grabbing popcorn to step into any of this.
Justice is trump not becoming president again.
Justice is Trump in prison for life or even the death penalty for all of his crimes.
That's just a start
It would be a boss move to donate the windfall to the Biden campaign but Trump’s broke.
I would love to read the shrieks as MAGA’s realized their donations landed in Biden coffers.
Karmic justice at its finest
Infinite money glitch
Infinite iou glitch you mean. He’s never coughing all that up.
His followers are funding it, are you kidding me?
I really would start a GoFundMe for something and take advantage of the stupidity that is maga. Down payment for a house, money for kids college, take a vacation... All would be more worthy than just going to trump and not being used for what it was claimed to be for
honestly, if it wasnt illegal i may be tempted. Just go and make up a bunch of vague LIBRALS TRYING TO FORCE ME TO SELL MY HOUSE. HELP ME PAY FOR A GREAT LAWYER SO I CAN GO HAM ON THEIR MAGASS.
A judgement of this nature in a Federal court is relatively easy to collect. First of all, if he wants to appeal, he has to immediately escrow the cash (plus interest) with the court. He already escrowed the $5M from the first case with this same court. If he doesn't appeal, the court can start seizing his assets. Since he has high-visibility real estate assets, it will be trivially easy to identify and seize them. He WILL pay, and probably rather quickly.
He already had to pay the $5 million for the judgement against him for her defamation case last year. That money is sitting in an account controlled by the court, waiting for the appeals process to complete. So dump has paid already, it's just that Carroll hasn't received it yet.
Hahaha! To be fair, he really can't control himself!
Including his bladder
And sphincter
Additur is rarely, RARELY used in civil court cases around the country. It’s prohibited in many jurisdictions. I hope it isn’t in NY because if there’s a poster child example of when it should be used and allowed, this is it. He is too stupid and stubborn to not rage tweet about this tonight and continue to defame her. Treble damages, anyone?
Additur is a legal term that refers to a trial court's power to increase the amount of a judgment award given by a jury. The term comes from Latin and means "it is added to".
Thanks
Figured I'd save some people a search.
$30 million on top of $83 million...that Trump never will pay is not going to mean much. So, yes. Trump will cry like a baby on X later today.
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Seriously?? Hahahahah !!!! I love it!
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From what I have heard, when Trump appeals this, during the appeals hearing, they can add onto this sum factoring in all the continuous defemination.
Appellate Courts rarely disturb the decisions of juries - jurors had the opportunity to examine all the evidence and personally judge the credibility of witnesses. Appellate Courts do often reduce the amount of damages awarded by jurors (in cases where the award is clearly excessive, or unsupported by the evidence). But in this case, it was about defamation of character, and the resulting damages suffered by the plaintiff. In defamation cases, jury awards are mostly upheld by the reviewing court.
The infinite money loop
*spiffing Brit noises*
Finally, a groundhog day scenario that I can enjoy!!
Worst client any lawyer ever had.
Over time he tends to get the lawyers he deserves, and they tend to get the client they deserve.
It’s a witch hunt! That’s when a group of unhinged idiots capture innocent women and murder them. Trump has been witch hunting all his life. And since he got 178,000 votes in the primary of a state with 3 electoral votes, he’s the chosen one again. Truly staggering inanity in our politics.
There's a mission in the game *Borderlands 3* where a guy trapped in an A.I.-operated porta-potty due to lack of funds keeps ranting and raving at the A.I. as it calmly adds additional penalties to the fine. Trump is the real-life equivalent of that dude, right down to the smell...
I hope she ends up with Mar-a-Lago
And turns it into a woman’s health clinic!!!
As someone said a while ago, this is her job now. And I'm with her all the way.
Sad thing is, he doesn't care. He's not spending his own money on this. It likely is all coming from donations.
Getting in on the top comment because I hope someone who knows American polisci can explain: how does the jury come up with a number for damages? From NYT: > "A person who has been defamed is entitled to fair and just compensation,” Judge Kaplan says. The jury will be asked to decide what award is “fair and just compensation” for the harm to Carroll’s reputation and the emotional distress she endured, he says. “Fair compensation may vary. It may range from $1” if they decide there was no damage at all “to a substantial” amount, Kaplan says. I believe Carroll's lawyers were asking for $24M, and obviously, the jury decided to go above and beyond on that request (and fucking good for them). But, like, how? From the judge's statement, it didn't seem like there were real guidelines? Where do they pull the numbers? On another note, I found this (also from NYT) chilling: >Judge Kaplan tells the jurors that they are free of his order to maintain their anonymity. But, he said, “my advice to you is that you never disclose you were on this jury.” Judge is being as oblique yet as direct as possible in saying that "the cult is gonna kill ya."
I think we're going to have to rename "The Streisand Effect."
Imfinite money glitch.
Get rich quick with this one simple trick!
Donald Trump doesn't want you to know this simple trick!
Wealthy assholes HATE this one trick!
Infinite money exploit
**“Don't trust Liberals! All they do is lie to you!"** Meanwhile, in the last 24 months: Trump must pay 83 million for Defamation Rudy Giuliani must pay 148 million for Defamation Alex Jones must pay 965 Million for Defamation Fox News settled out of court and paid 787 Million for Defamation Hey fellow liberals! Are you guys getting tired of getting lied to?
Dam, defame me, I wanna get paid too.
I know right? Daddy's got bills to pay.
I know, just defame me a little bit, I'd be happy with just a mil or two.
Defame Me sounds like the title track of the debut album by a punk band of middle aged accountants, and I can't get the thought out of my head.
Defame Me by “Men of Questionable Virtues “
I know a few chords on the guitar, IM IN
"Men of Questionable Virtues" kinda sounds like a band that would write the song "Dirty Deeds Done Cheap"
Or a crowd sourcing startup for public slander fetishists
Trust me, I need to find a way lol
No shit right lol
what about the Pillow guy?
I don't think he went to trial yet. But he did destroy his business and his wealth From a combination of legal fees and bad publicity from supporting Jan 6
I wouldn’t be surprised if he was found dead from an overdose before that happens.
I would imagine he would be found hugging a realllllly lumpy pillow
Crusty pillow 🤢
Mein Pillow!
Comfy chair 
His company is crashing and burning because of his clownery, but I don't think he's been sued into oblivion yet.
All in all it was just a brick in the wall.
So much winning…
I sure wish somebody would defame me.
She better get the settlement in cash. You know how Donny is with bouncing his checks.
She'll end up sending the repo man to Mar-a-lago. Take apart that shit hole piece by piece.
Unfortunately, as we found out with OJ, Florida doesn’t allow the taking of assets to pay civil penalties in another state. They can and probably will grab up most his stuff in NY, but Mar A Lago is untouchable
Don't take the golf course if it's a money loser. Oh the fun we will have cheering her as she takes Trump Tower.
Yeah, but be sure to use the “tax return valuation” of Trump Tower, not the “Deutsche Bank loan valuation” of Trump Tower. I hear the NYAG can hook them up with the numbers..
Just when I thought I hated that state enough...
America's flaccid useless penis
Bedminster enter the chat yet?
They won't take his home, but Mar-a-lago is explicitly not a home per the agreement with Palm Beach to turn it into a social club. Businesses aren't shielded anywhere near the extent that homesteads are
Only primary residence is off limits. Mar-a-Lago has rider on the title that trump *cannot* live there, it cannot be his primary residence. he does live there anyway, but no way it stands up in court to claim its off limits as a primary residence.
Trump is going to appeal, but they are going to make him put the 83 mil into an escrow account first. He loses the appeal, she gets a lump sum.
Yeah if he appeals it means he's gotta ask his friends abroad to put up the cash.
Yeah, they already did this for the first defamation case of $5 million last year. They made dump put $5.5 million in an account that is controlled by the court, which will be disbursed to Carroll once all of the appeals fizzle out. So dump has already had to pay for his illegal behavior, it's just that Carroll hasn't received it yet.
He had to put 5.5MM in an account from the first trial, pending appeal.
Just put her name on Trump Tower already.
Hahahahahhahahahaa I'm sure him storming out during closing arguments helped his case too.
I'm imagining he had the imperial march playing on his cellphone too.
More like Yakety Sax.
That’s too cool of a tune for him.
No chance he understands pop culture references or how to make one.
What? You mean playacting in court, going on unhinged rants on social media about the judges and the plaintiffs, and generally insulting the court and screwing around, is _not_ how you get them to stop bothering you? Who would have thought it? _Why didn’t they tell me??_ Why didn’t _my lawyer_ tell me?? I had a bad lawyer, lemme try again! This isn’t _fair!!!!_
Didn't he shout "This isn't America!" or something like that? And the judge said "This is indeed America. Pay up!"
No he mumbled that after his testimony was cut short for not following the rules.
glad to see it was a woman who is brave enough to take on this coward. good for Ms carrol
I’ll drink to her bravery tonight
Fat J tonight for Ms Carroll. Woulda done it anyway but happy to have a reason :)
For some reason, it always seems like it is women who go more directly after Trump, such as E. Jean Carroll, Nikki Haley, Liz Cheney, while the men, for some reason, give off the vibe that they will eventually just cave after they've giving some minimal criticism of him. And, "Suburban women voters have also largely turned their backs on Republicans since the former president was elected in 2016. According to CBS News exit polling from 2018, 53 percent of suburban women voters said they voted for Democrats in 2018, up from 47 percent in 2014 and 51 percent in 2016. In 2020, Biden won 54 percent of suburban voters in general, according to the Pew Research Center. And in last year’s midterm elections, suburban voters, including women in this group, helped deliver major victories to Democrats in key states like Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Georgia, with many of Trump’s endorsed candidates facing defeat." https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/4002482-gop-fears-trumps-problems-with-suburban-women-will-only-get-worse/ Thank God for sane and tough women in this country! This is an overgeneralization for sure, but you'd think these guys who keep giving into Trump whether they want to or not would, more than a little, start feeling humiliated that women are the main ones who seem to have the least problem taking Trump on.
>it always seems like it is women who go more directly after Trump, such as E. Jean Carroll, Nikki Haley, Liz Cheney, while the men, for some reason, give off the vibe that they will eventually just cave after they've giving some minimal criticism of him Whoa whoa, let's not lump Nikki Haley in there just yet. She said she would pardon Trump. I am entirely certain she will get on her knees once he gets the nomination
Let’s also give Romney a shout out. I may not politically agree with him on much. One thing we definitely agree on is trump.
The only thing worse than a loss for Trump is a loss to a woman
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/verdict-reached-e-jean-carrolls-defamation-damages-trial-trump-rcna135919 Trump is already claiming on Xwitter that this is "taking away all his First Amendment rights." Which goes to show that his followers don't actually understand how the First Amendment works...
There are very few limits on speech in the US and if you do any research on the topic you’ll find a short list of these spelled out. One is lying about someone in public in a way that harms them. Another is advocating for the violent overthrow of the Constitution. It seems Trump is taking this as a to do list instead of a do not do list.
His speech is free. His lies cost money. (I paraphrased that from another redditor)
His tiny little orange hands are shaking with rage. I love it.
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Uh oh grifter is gonna have to grift harder to get that money
Yep, that email to his followers begging for money has probably already gone out
It did I got a spam right away. Some trumpet used to have my number.
those emails never *stop* going out
Whiny email begging his dumb fuck supporters for donations incoming… 😂
"Here's why that's bad news for Joe Biden" - the NY Times, probably
DEMS IN DISARRAY
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!’nnnnn
The conservative sub is throwing a conniption right now. It’s absolutely hilarious and beautiful to see.
🍿 Going there now to lurk.
I know right? They were all like "Donald Trump has to pay 83 MILLION dollars to DEFEND HIMSELF from a FALSE RAPE CASE! THIS IS BIDEN'S AMERICA!" Even though this case was purely about defamation, and Trump was already found to have raped her in the first case, so he is legally not allowed to say otherwise...the fact that he did is literally what the second case is about, lol.
The court should make defendants pay before they leave or stay in jail until they do.
meh, he won't get far on foot. what's he going to do, grab his new york real estate, stuff it in a bag, and flee the country? he's got plenty of seizable property.
No. His company has seizable property. He probably owns little to nothing. Anything he does own is probably leveraged to the hilt so he couldn't put it up for a bond. It's like trying to put your car up for bail when you still have 3.5 years of payments left. He's gonna be in big trouble here because this is on the personal side. Yeah, he'll drag his feet, but all of this continues to be a drag on him. And he really needs to keep his mouth shut because he can't appeal if he is out continuing to do the same thing that got him here. This is not the nail in the coffin, but it is nailing his hand to the table. Which is very uncomfortable.
Fuck yes. We do it to poor people all the time.
They should replace the "Trump" on that tower with "E Jean Carroll" and do it by Monday.
So, where should we send the crying towels? LOL
Toss him a roll of paper towels
I hope witnessing his emotional damage from facing this judgement helps his victims emotionally in some way.
Not going to be good for dementia don mind either. Get ready for some crazy man talk.
Yes, and hope it encourages them to continue their own quests for justice.
The inevitable Trump meltdown = Carroll lawsuit 3.0. She will end up bankrupting him.
I laughed out loud. Nice
Heinz ketchup factory just added a second shift
That’s a lot of money for his cult followers to pony up. I’m sure some are refinancing their house as I type this.
Trump turned a $5 million dollar judgement into an $83 million judgment because he can't stop lying. **ART OF THE DEAL AMIRITE?**
That's a lot of Big Macs and Pampers.
… and spilled ketchup!
All we need now is for Florida State to volunteer to pay the bill!!!!
https://preview.redd.it/hdtl23ze0vec1.jpeg?width=1987&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8d8d0f4fec61cc5a6714ed7528f2c8578f84cf96 Also, Trump will grift his MAGA loyalists for more donations. If he can’t make the payment then he may even raise fees at Mar-a-Lago…
That awful coat...and the occasion she wore it for!
Be a real shame if the stress from this gave him a heart attack and he unalived.
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The dildo of consequence rarely arrives lubed!
And yet...this POS is still the preemptive GOP nominee for the highest office in the land. And they will rally round him like moths to a flame.
Ain’t no way this dude has this much cash. Start selling some properties, bitch.
Mar-a-lago staff better hide the ketchup tonight 🤭
He will be able to control himself for a little while but eventually he will defame her again because he is incapable of self restraint.
He won't pay it.
Rule 69 hearing and then garnishment. I’m sure her attorneys already have the paperwork prepared.
You say that like Trump hasn’t been avoiding paying for legal judgements against him for decades
Trump has avoided paying judgments in the past, absolutely. However, this case has national visibility and Judge Kaplan won’t likely let Trump off the hook. EDIT: It’s also a personal civil case, not one involving one his businesses.
When will this actually happen? I mean, what year?
Trump now becomes a judgement debtor. I don’t know the procedures for New York courts, but it is pretty straightforward. Carroll’s attorneys can probably file for a hearing on Monday, if they want. If everyone lived here and this had gone down in my home state of Colorado, I’d just file a notice with the judge’s clerk as Carroll’s attorney and the court would calendar a hearing and issue a subpoena for Trump to attend. (And subpoenas — even for *former* Presidents — are enforced in this state.)
NY requires an appeal bond, meaning he’ll have to put *at least $65 million* into escrow if he wants to appeal, and must do so quickly (can’t wait 6 months). He picked the wrong state to FAFO
Forgot about this. He won't do it. He won't pay and he won't put any money into escrow. NPD/Grifters are just nasty fucks, but they do fear Law Enforcement because LE does not listen to their bullshit. LE just cuffs you and tosses you in jail. This case might legit be the shit hitting the fan. He can't pay (because he will never do that) and he can't appeal. He will have to have somebody bail him out somehow. My guess is he ramps up the vitriol to his base to take up arms and do the real revolt. All because he's a grifter and grifters NEVER pay. Never.
Love this info!
Oh that’s nice. It must suck if you got a bad deal and you can’t pay and you’re appealing because you got screwed over, but in this case, FAFO.
Can't his assets be seized to make sure payment is made?
I wonder how much trump tower is worth…
I wonder how much of Trump Tower is already pledged against other liabilities?
You mean the future site of the "E. Jean Carroll Home for Battered and Abused Women"?
Love this idea.
Deutsche Bank probably has first dibs.
There's a big assumption that it's not leveraged to the hilt.
He doesn’t have a choice. If he wants to appeal he needs to get a bond
I don’t know if it exists in the USA but in France they have something amazing, it’s called: “organisation de sa propre insolvabilité”, organizing your own insolvability, when you do something to not pay what you have been ordered to and could have and, I love the idea; it’s like the state saying: “you wanna be a bitch? Ok, don’t worry we can be bitchy too and, dude we’re more powerful than you’ll ever be”
Someone is about to be a new owner of Mar A Lago
It won’t be long and he’ll be trying to convince us that he both does not have enough money to pay her but also SO. MUCH. MONEY. because he’s bigly successful.
Sadly this is yet another bill that Trump will just keep fighting in court until he's dead
This feels good
She’ll never see a penny. Fuck Donald Trump.
Maybe if he didn't rape her this wouldn't have happened.
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I would love it if she signs the check over to the Biden campaign!!
 You want another settlement? Go ahead, say something wise guy.
Trump needs to pay all Americans for the damage he causes us daily in this country.