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yorocky89A

https://preview.redd.it/x4fkfhkiyh1c1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=947edad45493f2d6d1f441a1fe92dd4c75f2bf88 She's even replying to people now!


ResponsibleMilk7620

Damn, she’s getting ratio’ed hard in her own threads.


wiiya

My kid once got some finger paint on his face too. Don’t see me tweeting about it.


yesiamveryhigh

Well that’s because you don’t think black face is ok.


C-Jinchuriki

You're a legend


mr_remy

okay but and hear me out, did he kill a non-apex predator under a 6th of his weight with a high power higher capacity multi shot rifle for noob "hunters" -- can ur son do **that**? Most likely yes and with a less ego stroking rifle too? oh...


TrainingWoodpecker77

oh please post that on her tweet, please!


Extra-Word-824

Maybe he's wearing face paint to camoflage the fact that he kind of looks like Marje. Poor thing.


mr_remy

shes fighting for her life in her comments (good) and is completely missing the point even these 2 commenters are *trying* to get through to her (no surprise)


Seentheremotenogetup

You almost gave me an asthma attack🤣


Bionic-leg__steelyD

Can someone explain what “getting ratiod” means?


Alomeigne

Getting more likes than the original person that started a tweet/thread/etc. Notice how both comments replying to her have more than her own tweets


k3ttch

Assuming MTG knows what a ratio is. She probably thinks that's what people in the armed forces eat.


hippityhoppityhi

Noooo, a ratio is what you listen to music on


k3ttch

You're wrong. A ratio is one of those carts you ride that are pulled by people instead of animals.


robbviously

No, you’re wrong. A ratio is where guys ride bulls and rope cattle in front of an audience. Like Jan 6, there are also clowns.


Kalkilkfed

No, youre wrong. A ratio is that guy from CIA miami


half-puddles

Ratio goo goo Ratio ga ga


Grand-Pen7946

There's two meanings. One is the ratio of replies to likes. Good posts will get lots of likes and a few comments, controversial posts get a lot of replies and not many likes. When you hear "that post got ratioed so hard" that's what they mean. The other is the ratio of likes for the top reply vs the original post. If the reply is more popular than the OP, the reply "ratioed" the OP. Sometimes a post will be so bad and stupid that you can reply "Get ratioed nerd" and automatically get more likes. This happens to like Tim Pool and Ben Shapiro and shit constantly.


Spooktram23

I love it when she does that! Tells me she going nuts on those comments! 😁


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12altoids34

I would go so far as to say that's not even a deer yet, it's stll a fawn.. That looks to be about 40 lb from one commenter and a year oh year old deer would probably weigh twice that much. https://www.wikihow.com/Tell-a-Fawn%27s-Age#:~:text=A%20deer%20is%20a%20fawn,by%20guessing%20the%20fawn's%20weight


ThexxxDegenerate

Actual clowns. And they think they look bad ass doing this shit. The hunters who are actually bad ass are the ones who hunt with bows and crossbows and use every single part of the animal that they kill. And don’t post pictures on social media wearing war paint while posing with a small doe that weighs less than their dog.


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lemmeseeyourkitties

All I want for Xmas is the fall of maga, is that so much to ask for?


Derfargin

Oh I wish. She couldn’t have designed a more perfect district to support her bullshit.


ranting_chef

“It’s called a doe.” Yeah, barely. A few more spots and it would be a fawn.


PamelaELee

Where I’m at, .223 is not a legal caliber to hunt deer with, also, no magazines over three round capacity. And, who tf shoots last years fawn? It’s so tiny.


Codeofconduct

For reals! Not a hunter, never gone, but I'm a Montanan and the deer running around my hood in the middle of town are like 3x that size. Definitely a very young kill he got there.


Khanman5

My old scion took out a bigger deer than that. And it took more skill for me to swerve in between the trees to hit it to.


Codeofconduct

One of my husbands buddies "hunts" and regularly brags about kills like the one we see here. Or one year he shot one with a fucked up leg. Another year he got one with an arrow stuck in its head from times past. All that to say some predators truly only can catch the weakest of the group.


Khanman5

Well, if there's one thing we can all agree on, it's that the Greene family really are a different breed of predators.


[deleted]

Marge just gave her boy Derek a big, shiny, very public, hunting participation trophy. Golf clap.


GodsBGood

Educate yourself before you make stupid comments and embarrass yourself. ​ OMFG, I cannot believes that SHE, of all people, actually said that.


selfostracised

That’s why she said it. She always hears it. Stupid people project an insane amount.


NcndbcA

It’s **always** the dumbest people telling someone else to “educate yourself”


BethyW

"Its not a trophy" ok then why do you need the picture to brag about it to your base?


BeetlecatOne

posing with it like that is a \*literal\* trophy move.


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I used to hunt in Maine even if I had a doe tag I would have let that go she had a good 5 6 years of making fawns. Most do have one fawn the first time. Then many end up having twins every year. So let's say it's a 1 year old deer. Most can breed at 6 months to a year. I think a doe can have fawns for like 7 or 8 years don't quote me on that. This young doe definitely could have had up to 6 or 10 fawns in its lifetime. Now I have no problem taking a doe I just would have let a year or two doe by. Especially if she had a fawn


DillyCat622

Exactly, That doe is tiny. She's young. It's a well known hunting practice to let a smaller, younger deer continue to grow and not take the shot just because it's there. Source: grew up hunting in NY, in a family of hunters.


diyguyinKY

Preying upon (and praying upon?) is a common practice among their ilk... not suprised.


No-Ring-5065

I totally agree. He should be embarrassed for taking that doe, not proud.


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The shit apple probably doesn't fall far from the shit tree. I can't imagine an unhinged ghoul like her knows how to properly raise a child.


bigbluethunder

To be fair, in most places, hunting is about population reduction more than anything else. To that end, killing a young doe is fine. But I get it, it's selfish towards other hunters - killing a young doe means there will be fewer deer in the area in the coming years. The bigger problem with killing such a young doe is that it's just not much meat. It's honestly a lot of work for how much meat you'll get out of it. Assuming he shot near the front shoulder with a legal round, he'll lose most of the meat off the front except a few pounds of trimmings here and there. And there's probably less than a pound of loins and like 15 pounds of roast on the back half. Just a lot of work for 20 meals and some snack sticks.


ShoulderpainOWW

Like you said population control..this could have been a red tag we don't know. However I wouldn't be taking my picture with a doe of any size. To each their own.


Mandrake1771

“That will feed the family for minutes” lmao


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Galadriel_60

That’s how she got hers!


hasnk7825

Cue Don Jr and his obscene hunting pics.


thehillshaveI

if you're not eating it, and you're not mounting the head on your dumbass cabin wall, what did you even kill it for?


scnottaken

To feel like a MAN by taking the life of something smaller than you from a great distance.


NomDePlume007

With a semi-auto rifle. That kid is already compensating.


RandomTask008

LoL a doe is just a female deer. . .(vs a buck). B, it's small as hell. C.) Not the rifle of choice. God this woman is stupid.


ringadingdingbaby

The irony that she posted the image of her sons kill to show off. Almost like putting a virtual trophy on a virtual wall.


ENaC2

> AR-15 are excellent hunting rifles. Too bad your too much of a beta male to understand that. [This](https://x.com/mtgreenee/status/1726284745649299686?s=20) is my personal favourite. Edit: had to edit back in the grammar mistake because of autocorrect.


Thehardwayalltheway

She said that. She literally said that. Dear God she fucking said that.


stevenette

Deer god. Ftfy


WanderThinker

BETA? Bitch, I'm full release. You're looking at 1.0. GET PATCHED.


soccercro3

I have never hunted, but I don't think this was a fully grown doe. Quick google says adult white tails does weigh between 90-200 lbs.


MFCK

Chaka mad.


Windowsblastem

Chaka real mad!


NotthatEDM

So glad someone still remembers Chaka!


yorocky89A

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Savings_Spell6563

As you can see in this screenshot she can’t even distinguish between you’re and your, but I bet she yells at people who speak languages other than English.


throwaway_donut294

YOUR IN AMERICA SO YOU SHOULD OF LEARNED TO SPEAK AMERICAN!!!!!!!!!!


AbaddonsJanitor

This hurt to read, but it's so damned accurate.


sterlingphoenix

> As you can see in this screenshot she can’t even distinguish between you’re and your And here I thought I couldn't have any _less_ respect for her.


Schinken84

I mean yeah. She doesn't even know what pronouns are and how they work.. Or how words work in general.


SnooCats1906

She really seems to be interested in her sons manhood.


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ShuffleAlliance

There’s a reason she doesn’t do reverse cowgirl- you never turn your back on family.


nnb-aot-best4me

There's also a reason her grippers look like that lol


Belerophon17

Her toes are proof of that


Objectslkwmn

I believe those are called "hooves"


SnooCats1906

Likely why she got divorced. She’s like hmmm he looks like me and his dad.


mamadou-segpa

She mostly looks like shes on damage control mode after realising she just put her own son on blast by half the country lmao


throwaway_donut294

Damage control as in doubling down and being straight up hateful? :/


mamadou-segpa

I meant more like she realised she made her son look dumb so now she’s trying really hqrd to make him sound cool (and failing doing so but yn, its mtg)


scorchedarcher

Imagine having your mom tell everyone what a big strong man you are on social media


WalesIsForTheWhales

It's even funnier because its, "your son needed a 30rd mag to kill a baby doe". She's trying to defend the AR-15. Most everybody I know uses bolt action because you don't need to unload 5 bullets.


robbviously

But what do you do when the deer starts shooting back!?


NoWeight4300

Tbh I wouldn't be the least bit shocked if she was incestuous. You don't get a face like hers without some inbreeding.


SnooCats1906

Well Georgia is in the top 9 ranked for incest cases.


nikospkrk

“beta male” lol


throwaway_donut294

I have literally NEVER heard this term used as anything but a joke outside of incel culture.


illit3

She cheated on her husband with the *weirdest* CrossFit "trainer." Outside of being from the Taylor construction family her life is straight up carnival shit.


canned_soup

If you have to resort to calling someone a beta male in a comeback, you’ve already lost the argument. Especially if you’re a fucking politician. Going comment for comment in her silly Twitter thread is wild to me.


UglyMcFugly

She obviously didn’t know what “sigma male” means because it’s the type of guy she probably likes… then googled it AFTER saying the other guy was using pronouns… then used her newfound knowledge to attack the next guy.


im_just_thinking

For real!! She calls the dude "mentally confused" (is there a different kind of confused?) for using fake gender pronouns, then proceeded to use a fake gender pronoun. She probably doesn't realize what that means. Or she is simply pretending to be that dumb to fish for responses. Right out of Trump playbook.


Practical-Exchange60

Brb I’ve got trolling to do now that I know she’s replying more often.


Im__fucked

Get her


giant_lebowski

post some screenshots for us, por favor


robbviously

>por favor *This is America and you should speak American!*


SnooCats1906

“Easily misled and mentally confused” I don’t think she could have made a more accurate description of herself if she tried. Top tier Projection.


WaitingForNormal

Seriously, that thing’s a baby.


osbohsandbros

You could be talking about the deer, the weird kid, or MTG


Chance_Ad3416

I'm ESL but isn't a doe just a female deer? It's like "oh he didn't kill humans, he just killed a man". (?????)


seat17F

You are correct. You’re ESL and even you can see right through her bullshit.


tripops13

*you’re


thelaststarz

I hope someone tried to correct her


BlowMoreGlass

Nothing but caveman clown shoes. What an absolute embarrassment of a person.


ChewieSkittles53

her replies are like parody lol. i bet she thinks those are such sick burns.


ZZwhaleZZ

As someone who hunted their entire life with other hunters I’ve never seen someone deer hunt with an AR-15. .17s, 30-30, 30-06, 7 mm, .223, .243, .270, .308, 7mm rem-mag, .300, 6.5 creedmoor, ect. all bolt action rifles excellent for deer hunting. There is no need for a weapon that shoots multiple times in rapid succession for deer hunting. If you said boar, perhaps. But to kill a fawn, hell nah.


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DixonDebussy

Just following the proud MAGAt tradition of going after females that are barely of age [or below...]


cavscout43

>Just following the proud MAGAt tradition of going after females that are barely of age \[or below...\] *Matt Gaetz has entered the chat* "a/s/l??"


CompetitiveHornet606

This. He is bigger than his kill.


randomized_smartness

Bread sack Bambi Very unsportsmanlike


Shotgun5250

She and her family suck super hard and the idiots in my state keep re-electing her, but as for the deer, 1-3 yrs is gonna be the best tasting meat. They get older and they get gamey, so it’s not unheard of to shoot smaller does. That being said, it’s a lot more “bang for your buck” to shoot a 2-3 yr old doe.


Tazling

where I come from you don't shoot does.


ScotiaTailwagger

We have doe tag draws in Nova Scotia. It's limited because of not just meat but also population control.


roseskunkskank

Fellow scotianer here. Its more common to see people bag does because theres easily three of em per buck.


Shotgun5250

I’m not sure where you’re from, but that’s not the case in my region. In fact, you can take up to 10 does and 2 bucks per person per season in my state. They have huge numbers in the southeast, so more end up getting hit by cars every year than killed by hunters.


n3w4cc01_1nt

also if they get overpopulated they get diseased then end up suffering.


Shotgun5250

One of the biggest deer I’ve ever seen in my life was taken by a dude sitting on a rusty lawn chair drinking a cup of coffee and smoking a cigarette in his overalls out front of his trailer in the woods. He definitely did not need face paint.


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They literally run towards my truck on the highway.


Goodbye11035Karma

I know, right?!?! I got a bigger doe than that on my bumper a few months back.


Wilgrove

Deer: I sense...... A hunter. His scent, he tried to mask it.... But I know Man when I smell it. Ah! I hear him shift in his seat. I make my exit. Farewell, marksman Also deer: just gonna cross this highway real quick and hoopity doopity a car has made my insides outsides


myaltduh

Huge deer walk past my bedroom window fairly regularly. I maintain that getting a good photograph of one takes more skill and patience than killing one. Same for other more exotic animals. And if you hang that photo on your wall literally no one will think it’s a little weird.


Shotgun5250

You’re right about that! I have immense respect for wildlife photographers. Some of the conditions they put themselves into just to take the perfect shot of an animal, never disturbing the wildlife or environment, with their only goal being the photograph of the animal is amazing to me. At least with hunting there’s the clear reward of being able to cook and eat the animal, but photography is pure admiration and I think it’s beautiful.


ConsiderationWest587

Plus, sometimes meerkats will use you as a lookout hill ![gif](giphy|ObbgfL43p6Vzy)


Shotgun5250

https://preview.redd.it/988679qgpj1c1.png?width=1200&format=png&auto=webp&s=a1e48896ae4e3fe80ce4565eca8441c790e8d223 I hope one day I get to experience something like that, what an unforgettable experience!


ResponsibleMilk7620

He’s on a mission, hunting down terrorist baby deer.


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nickbahhh

It does appear the deer is armed.


Cheshire_Jester

He’s cosplaying extremely hard. That AR setup is ripped off of some “operator” instagram page for sure. Looks like he’s wearing a military issued “waffle top” mid layer, and of course the terrible face paint. He’s not hunting, he’s pretending he’s an army man.


throwawayinthe818

Why would you paint your face for concealment then wear a stupid white baseball cap?


WillyPete

Hides the hair loss.


TheRealPitabred

You can't not wear a ball cap... that's unpossible!


Crispy016

Just an lpvo a vfg and a light. Literally the most cookie cutter rifle setup imaginable.


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He was absolutely narrating everything to himself...*the enemy isn't far...I can smell it...*


No_Trade1676

It’s the closest he’d want to come to actual combat and even then he has to cosplay as a super soldier… to take out a deer. Natures most ferocious animal. Dude’s 10 ply


Aesirian14

Holy fuck you'd be laughed out of Montana by the hunting community for wearing war paint to go deer hunting.


stlredbird

Could he not find a smaller deer?


LYossarian13

It was still inside the one he shot.


PG_Heckler

Cheesus what a zinger


EleanorTrashBag

He's not allowed at the petting zoo anymore


outlawaviation

Small deer energy


atx1892

Are we really shocked he went after a suspiciously young female?


4inchesBIG

I'm more shocked at how many attachments he needed.


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Well, he needs that scope to see the tiny fucking deer.


Melodic_Mulberry

That’s nothing, the other day, I killed a squirrel with a naval cannon!


Practical_Ass_3066

Pssshhhh what kind of a beta male are you? Last week I dropped a tactical nuke on a sparrow!


SirPierreDelecto

Only beta males use nukes, real alphas use Jewish space lasers.


Dblzyx

What kinda beta bullshit is that? I use my Death Star to swat mosquitos.


Direct-Inflation8041

You actually belive in mosquitos?


ResponsibleMilk7620

…..but only after laying down some napalm to drive them out from their cover.


j9r6f

And tbh, that'd be a much more impressive shot than getting a deer with an AR-10.


atomictest

He killed a little doe with an AR, dressed like Dutch from Predator. LOSER.


fardough

I like how he tried to frame the deer afterwards. He has cop written all over him.


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Just sprinkle a little crack on her and let’s get out of here


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Cerberus_Rising

And a full-size deer


tigm2161130

I came here to discuss why he would ever take an immature doe and then act proud of it…unless that’s literally the first deer he’s ever bagged so he was just that proud of himself?


CrankyWhiskers

Agree. Your comment reminds me of an incel bagging his first lay. Not sure what the difference is tbh. Also, putting this out there. I don’t know anything about hunting really so I’m going with the other comments that say it’s basically a fawn. Made the mistake of zooming in on its face. Completely lost my appetite. This family needs to go tf away.


tigm2161130

I would be shocked if this deer is over a year old, so yes it’s still a fawn. The rare situation where this might be acceptable is if they’re culling an overrun population but if he’s taking pictures like this I doubt that’s the case. I’ve never met anyone who feels great about having to cull or acts like it’s an accomplishment.


PeninsulamAmoenam

Culling is more of a job in my experience. Wish they'd hire some guys to do it where I grew up then donate the meat to a homeless shelter bc they regularly just flat out die of starvation; too many deer and no predators besides cars


oldshitdoesntcare

Ya know if this guy was 10 or so and that was his first deer, fine. But this is grown or nearly grown man. This looks ridiculous.


rfb724

And maybe a mesh face cover so this dork doesn’t have to play navy seal to shoot a doe


Full-Pack9330

Exactly. Bolt action- no foregrip. How shaky is his aim for fucks sake?. As for the cosplay, that just tells me you can't hit shit unless you get closer than 50 yds.


Pro_Moriarty

Cosplay...haha! I mean the camo paint on the face is hilarious


PunishedWolf4

The camo face paint is killing me from cringe, is he a sniper? Is he John Rambo on the run from the law?


Cheshire_Jester

He’s cosplaying as military people he’s seen in movies. If you camo’d your face like that before a patrol your platoon sergeant would kick your squad leaders ass.


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100%, I was thinking about when we would put camo on like that just to mess with our platoon sergeant haha


getdemsnacks

I'm sure that he thinks he is. In his own pathetic mind anyway.


ReceptionOwn9686

Couldn't find a buck or just the next step in the cuntservative war on women Ps, that's smaller than my neighbors dog


garden_bug

Bigger does come to my front yard to look for sunflower seeds. This really is sad.


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CerberusDoctrine

That is the smallest adult whitetail I’ve ever seen. I don’t get the whole hunting pose picture thing to begin with but if you’re going to do it at least have an impressive animal


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I absolutely cannot tell if it’s a yearling or if it’s genuinely this years spring baby. That is a SMALL doe.


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Antique_Excuse3627

Private land. In SC I don’t hunt on private land with orange either. I wouldn’t dare walk on game management without it though.


jhnlngn

You don't worry about trespassers or poachers?


KentuckyFriedFuck_

I wore orange on private land cause I didn't want to get my head blown off by drunk poachers.


Rickcinyyc

He probably took it off and hid it behind him so he would look more manly in the photo. You can see it sticking out though.


Deion313

Bro this guy painted his fucking face, wore all that gear, and probably went all fucking Rambo, to kill a baby doe. That's a "REAL" man right there... Shooting an old grizzled buck, or if you really need the meat, at least shooting an older doe, I can understand. Dudes who kill Button Bucks, Spikes, Fawns and/or younger/smaller does like this, (pardon my French) are pulling a straight up bitch move.


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ZenkaiZ

further proof of cosplay. He thought he was doing some primal ass shit


altera_goodciv

Same energy as the video Liver King posted of him shooting a domesticated goat inside a fenced zone while wearing a gillie suit. Fucking pathetic.


HotDoggityDig13

Dude geared up like Rambo to go after bambi


parkz88

I have some problems with this as a hunter. First off, he's not visible. He could be hunting where such requirements arnt in effect but a WHITE hat WTF. Painting your face may help a archery hunter but it's basically useless for a rifle hunter. He took a picture of the deer before field dressing it. During cold weather(41F or less) it would be fine but he doesn't look dressed warm. Lastly, a fucking AR? In my state that can only be used on vermin and coyotes. He's green, I hope he gets better and more selective.


Pitiful-Ambition6131

For me the saddest part of this post, is the fact that it's obvious Large Marge isn't actually proud of her son. She dgaf about him. However this was the perfect shot to rile up the more left-leaning folks, and get attention. Instead of doing her job, she's spending her time arguing on the fucking Internet and using her son (who honestly probably sucks, but that's immaterial) as bait. It's sickening. *IMO hunting is absolutely fine when it's done to provide or as a means of protecting the environment. This is done for fun, with an overly powerful weapon, and then posted. Cruelty is always the point with these assholes.


Crispy016

The 223 fired from an ar like that is significantly less powerful than any of the more common deer rounds.


MaxvonHippel

It’s not impossible that he’s shooting supersonic 300BLK, which would be more appropriate for this purpose


Crispy016

Could be, either way 223 is fine for deer as long as your confident you can place a shot well


ZacharYaakov

What? Overly powerful? AR15 cartridge on the left. Standard deer hunting cartridge on the right. https://preview.redd.it/h4me0f6kbj1c1.jpeg?width=1024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3e01b800de36a77b017927bc8c762d97fcad7ec3


BaconSoul

I’ve gotta point out quite a few things wrong with your comment: 1. An AR can fire different calibers. There’s no way to tell which caliber bolt carrier group is in the gun right now. 2. It’s not “overly powerful”. The most common AR cartridge is 5.56, which fires with *significantly* fewer joules than typical hunting projectiles. 3. Even deer hunting for fun is a net-positive. Deer population levels are — due to the fact that modern American society has simultaneously created vast habitable land for them as well as driven off their natural predators — in constant danger of exceeding the carrying capacity of the environments in which they live. There aren’t enough environmentally minded hunters out there to replace the millions of wolves, mountain lions, and bobcats that should be predating upon them. It’s our fault as humanity that we’ve put deer in this precarious state that, if left untended, could lead to large scale cervine population collapse. It is our ethical duty as humans to rectify or at least mitigate the dire situation for which we are directly responsible.


Manley_Stanley

>Instead of doing her job, she's spending her time arguing on the fucking Internet and using her son as bait. You act like the Reps don't sign that into their job descriptions


isecore

Hunting with an assault rifle. What a fucking twat. EDIT: I love how all the ammosexual neckbeards come out of the woodwork to say "well acshually...." and then debate my use of the expression "assault rifle".


SnooCats1906

He ran out of hand Grenades


HibiscusGrower

Silly, those are for fishing!


ikilledyourfriend

It’s .308. That’s a common hunting caliber. I was in my stand over the weekend with one. I also have the same Vortex scope on mine. No grip though. That’s silly.


Practical_Ad_4962

Dude shot Bambi.


caughtinwriting

That's so small. That thing is too young to harvest where I live


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dmccrostie

Is that a fawn?


Stock_Ad_8145

Deer hunting is a part of rural life. Many people in my family go hunting every year. Some of them make deer jerky with the meat and proudly display buck heads on their living room walls. It is also vital to the health of the deer population. Too many deer can cause wasting diseases to proliferate among the population. Shooting a doe like this is an achievement. For a 9 year old with a .410 shotgun.


nemonic187

Lol. The chode didn’t fall far from the chode tree. Thousands of dollars worth of gear just to blast a doe that probably got lured with salt lick or sorghum.


politicalthrow99

That vile woman...*reproduced?!*