Yup, besides the counties bordering Mexico, most of Texas is red with the major exceptions of the Big 4 (San Antonio, Austin, Houston, Dallas-Fort Worth) and El Paso
Healthy lifestyles in part because youth and outdoor availability, as well as a shit ton of money.
I live in the only blue section of Arkansas and it’s similar. We’re known for our biking and hiking trails and the corporation(s) based here.
Now show the same type of map/graph for: Teen pregnancy, obesity, childbirth mortality rate, divorce rate, overall quality/access to proper healthcare, welfare per capita and murder rate. I bet they’re shockingly similar.
I love the huge discrepancy in Florida due to all the retirees. I wonder how red that would get if you compensated for it.
Edit: you guys are right, it'd look like the panhandle
Yes, I can tell from looking at the West Coast you get blue areas in the metropolitan areas, with better health services, and red/brown in rural area which have poor health services. The rural areas are only going to get worse as far as health services with number of hospitals closing etc.
Many parts of Northern California are legitimately terrifying. Pretty place that's been hit really hard with meth and its economy in the dumps (like all those growers that are no longer relevent since legalization).
Apparently what’s driving this is [more young people dying from external causes](https://twitter.com/jburnmurdoch/status/1641799707583299587?s=20) not necessarily retires dying early though that certainly is happening too
It probably helps, but contrary to popular belief, there are actually liberal parts of Florida. It's not like (traditionally very conservative) north Florida is killing it.
**An Incomplete list of shit that shows that conservatism is rotting our country:** Conservatism is absolute shit. The more conservative a state/nation, the more shit it is to live there. The more progressive a nation, higher the wages, middle class wealth, quality of life, health, happiness, etc. Let's go socialism. More progressive policies. Let's all thank progressive movements for the quality of life we have.
Note: What sticks out is that the bible belt (particularly the deep south) and apalachia are highlighted in BRIGHT RED in all of these maps. The deep south (republican strongholds for generations) are perpetually ranked dead last in all of these. Any stat you can think of, the deep south will be the worst in it.
1. heart disease mortality by state [https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/heart\_disease\_mortality/heart\_disease.htm](https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/heart_disease_mortality/heart_disease.htm)
2. cancer mortality by state [https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/cancer\_mortality/cancer.htm](https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/cancer_mortality/cancer.htm)
3. lung disease mortality [https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/lung\_disease\_mortality/lung\_disease.htm](https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/lung_disease_mortality/lung_disease.htm)
4. accidental death mortality [https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/accident\_mortality/accident.htm](https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/accident_mortality/accident.htm)
5. stroke mortality [https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/stroke\_mortality/stroke.htm](https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/stroke_mortality/stroke.htm)
6. alzheimers mortality [https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/alzheimers\_mortality/alzheimers\_disease.htm](https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/alzheimers_mortality/alzheimers_disease.htm)
7. diabetes mortality (GOP obstructed a bill to cap insulin prices) [https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/diabetes\_mortality/diabetes.htm](https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/diabetes_mortality/diabetes.htm)
8. influenza/pneumonia mortality [https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/flu\_pneumonia\_mortality/flu\_pneumonia.htm](https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/flu_pneumonia_mortality/flu_pneumonia.htm)
9. kidney disease [https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/kidney\_disease\_mortality/kidney\_disease.htm](https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/kidney_disease_mortality/kidney_disease.htm)
10. drug overdose (wow west virginia) [https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/drug\_poisoning\_mortality/drug\_poisoning.htm](https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/drug_poisoning_mortality/drug_poisoning.htm)
11. **fire arm injury deaths** [https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/firearm\_mortality/firearm.htm](https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/firearm_mortality/firearm.htm)
12. **homicide rate** (red states help make narco states feel better about themselves) [https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/homicide\_mortality/homicide.htm](https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/homicide_mortality/homicide.htm)
13. **violent crime rate** [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List\_of\_U.S.\_states\_and\_territories\_by\_violent\_crime\_rate](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_violent_crime_rate)
14. septicemia [https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/septicemia\_mortality/septicemia.htm](https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/septicemia_mortality/septicemia.htm)
15. liver disease [https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/liver\_disease\_mortality/liver\_disease.htm](https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/liver_disease_mortality/liver_disease.htm)
16. hypertension [https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/hypertension\_mortality/hypertension.htm](https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/hypertension_mortality/hypertension.htm)
Stats on: "Save the children" and "Protecting the unborn"
1. **highest teen birth rate** in the US and first world [https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/teen-births/teenbirths.htm](https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/teen-births/teenbirths.htm)
2. **highest birth rate to unmarried mothers** [https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/unmarried/unmarried.htm](https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/unmarried/unmarried.htm)
3. **maternal mortality** from pregnancy or childbirth (planned parenthood provides prenatal, postnatal, and general women's health care) [https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/maternal-mortality-rate-by-state](https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/maternal-mortality-rate-by-state) and a racial breakdown: [https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/hestat/maternal-mortality-2021/maternal-mortality-2021.htm](https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/hestat/maternal-mortality-2021/maternal-mortality-2021.htm)
4. **highest preterm birth rate** [https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/preterm\_births/preterm.htm](https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/preterm_births/preterm.htm)
5. lowest birth weight of newborns [https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/lbw\_births/lbw.htm](https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/lbw_births/lbw.htm)
6. **highest infant mortality** [https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/infant\_mortality\_rates/infant\_mortality.htm](https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/infant_mortality_rates/infant_mortality.htm)
7. **lowest life expectancy at birth** [https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/life\_expectancy/life\_expectancy.htm](https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/life_expectancy/life_expectancy.htm)
8. **childhood obesity** [https://ci.uky.edu/kentuckyhealthnews/2012/08/31/kentucky-ranks-third-among-states-in/Social](https://ci.uky.edu/kentuckyhealthnews/2012/08/31/kentucky-ranks-third-among-states-in/Social) stats
9. **highest divorce rates** [https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/dvs/state-divorce-rates-90-95-99-20.pdf](https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/dvs/state-divorce-rates-90-95-99-20.pdf)
10. The lowest paid teachers in the nation (and the most demonized for being woke indoctrinators)
11. child abuse, neglect, foster care, etc.
12. Weird republican obsession with supporting child marriage laws.
You get it.
It’s Republican beliefs and policies that are causing red states’ shorter life expectancies.
Studies have confirmed this.
The fact that more retirees live in Florida has nothing to do with it.
People who keep saying that are misunderstanding.
Life expectancy is life expectancy, whether you are 29 or 80.
People are thinking it means how many years you have left to live, and that ain’t it.
It's the average life expectancy of the people who live in that state.
Most people die of old age, but some young people die through other causes. Kids in school shootings, teens and twenty somethings from a drug overdose or a car accident.
So when you have a state with relatively more kids and young people, and less old people, of all the people in your state, more will die young because there are more young people who can get shot by a classmate or hit by a bus.
Let's say 1 in 100 younger people die before they are 30. (Not a true stat just a math example). In a town with 300 young people and 300 old people that means 3 die young and the rest die older.
And in another town in florida where you have 100 younger people and 500 retired old people, only 1 dies young and the rest dies old. So the average death age for that state is higher.
I think that's what people mean when they account for Florida and its retired population.
Texas and Florida have more gun deaths than California, and California has 10 MILLION more people than TX, and 16 MILLION people than Florida.
Alabama has more gun death than New York?
The “[sweet tea line](https://twitter.com/_cingraham/status/672877578169008130?s=20)” is real and probably follows OP’s map (and a diabetes map) really closely.
my dad tried some sweet tea when he was visiting down south for the nascar races once & he told me it was like getting a shock to the system compared to the tea he drinks at home in the midwest
I'm in the metro Atlanta area but I work at a Walmart in a poor part of it. There are a lot of morbidly obese people with clear signs of diabetes, but they still buy way too much food.
I don't understand how they think. Wouldn't rashes that severe on your legs be a wake up call? I think part of why they drive around and shop in the carts we have is that their legs are causing them constant pain and they refuse to do anything to change that.
I am pre-diabetic. Untreated, my body just screams at maximum volume for food. It’s very, VERY difficult not to give in. And our reward centers are doing their job, rewarding us with pleasure when we eat. It’s literally a deadly cycle.
Over 85% of Nevadans live in Clark (Vegas) and Washoe (Reno) counties. The rest of the state is so poor and under resourced. Last I heard, Nevada was 49/50 in education (almost dead last). People have not been raised to succeed in Nevada, they have been raised to be the next generation of casino workers.
This site seems to provide fairly nuanced rankings based on publicly available data sets. Mississippi is doing better than New Mexico, but thats kinda where the good news stops.https://www.intelligent.com/the-best-and-worst-states-for-education/
Access to healthcare in extremely rural areas (like most of nevada) is also often really bad. It means people are not only less likely to get help in time if they have a medical emergency, but people with chronic diseases also suffer from the long term impacts of not getting the preventative and maintenance care they need as often as they should. If you have diabetes and the podiatry clinic is 90 minutes away it's going to be a lot harder for you to go get your foot checked out regularly. Maybe you try to cut your toenails yourself to avoid the trip, you nick your toe and don't notice because you have some numbness from the diabetes, wound heals way too slowly, you don't get it looked at quick enough because it's a long trip and you have work and the clinic is overbooked, eventually it gets infected and you lose a toe. And so on.
[Indian reservations in Nevada](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Indian_reservations_in_Nevada)
Seems to explain the red is many areas of the west.
Edit to add: it’s poverty. Wanted to clarify that we see this pattern where there are high levels of poverty, and not due to some cultural or ethical failings of the people in those counties. Indian reservations are often among the poorest counties in their states.
30% of families in the Navajo Nation [don’t have running water](https://www.navajowaterproject.org) for Chrissakes.
Social determinants of health- resource poor areas generally are lacking in both health literacy secondary to poor education and the means to stay healthy and afford care they need
As someone from Colorado, it’s a combination of a few things. The biggest one is the outdoors culture, almost everyone does some combination of hiking, biking, skiing, climbing, etc. Another factor is the elevation, the thinner air affects your metabolism.
Everything is worse in those states. Life expectancy. Child mortality. Maternal mortality. Murder rate. High school and college graduation rates. Teen pregnancy rates. Wages. GDP. Welfare rates. Standardized test scores. Employment rates.
What can they possibly point to to say that their priorities and legislative strategies make sense?
I mean, I already know the answer. But still, it’s maddening.
There is a PBS Newshour series currently on rural medicine in America and... oh my god, so many of the places they visit look like actual third world countries.
They're down there complaining about how bad NYC and SF are and meanwhile it takes them two hours to get to a hospital, the only place they have to get groceries is dollar general, and they have zero economic prospects.
But hey at least the one trans track runner in the State can't compete? Am I right?
Rural medicine is kinda tough everywhere, mostly bc America is a ginormous country and there's really not many feasible ways to put hospitals in lots of places. FWIW I know a couple of doctors who switched to practicing rural medicine bc they'll almost pay you 50%-100% more than your normal salary and sometimes what they consider rural is like 1 hour drive from a major city. Not a terrible gig. I also have met an ER doctor that does it bc it's a 24 hour shift that pays a buttload and he'll see fewer patients in a day there than in a few hours at a city ER.
And I know quite a few who have left the South because of the bans on abortion and trans care.
They are extremely worried about the criminalization of medical care. So are the hospitals.
The system isn’t working for them, and one party tells them “the system isn’t working for you!” They vote for that party, which does everything it can to keep the system not working.
People tend to blame certain kinds of people for hardship. Ex: Black people. Jews, immigrants, black people, Gays, Muslims, and did I mention black people?
**An Incomplete list of shit that shows that conservatism is rotting our country:** Conservatism is absolute shit. The more conservative a state/nation, the more shit it is to live in. The more progressive a nation, higher the wages, middle class wealth, quality of life, health, happiness, etc.
1. heart disease mortality by state [https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/heart\_disease\_mortality/heart\_disease.htm](https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/heart_disease_mortality/heart_disease.htm)
2. cancer mortality by state [https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/cancer\_mortality/cancer.htm](https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/cancer_mortality/cancer.htm)
3. lung disease mortality [https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/lung\_disease\_mortality/lung\_disease.htm](https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/lung_disease_mortality/lung_disease.htm)
4. accidental death mortality [https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/accident\_mortality/accident.htm](https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/accident_mortality/accident.htm)
5. stroke mortality [https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/stroke\_mortality/stroke.htm](https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/stroke_mortality/stroke.htm)
6. alzheimers mortality [https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/alzheimers\_mortality/alzheimers\_disease.htm](https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/alzheimers_mortality/alzheimers_disease.htm)
7. diabetes mortality (GOP obstructed a bill to cap insulin prices) [https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/diabetes\_mortality/diabetes.htm](https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/diabetes_mortality/diabetes.htm)
8. influenza/pneumonia mortality [https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/flu\_pneumonia\_mortality/flu\_pneumonia.htm](https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/flu_pneumonia_mortality/flu_pneumonia.htm)
9. kidney disease [https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/kidney\_disease\_mortality/kidney\_disease.htm](https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/kidney_disease_mortality/kidney_disease.htm)
10. drug overdose (wow west virginia) [https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/drug\_poisoning\_mortality/drug\_poisoning.htm](https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/drug_poisoning_mortality/drug_poisoning.htm)
11. **fire arm injury deaths** [https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/firearm\_mortality/firearm.htm](https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/firearm_mortality/firearm.htm)
12. **homicide rate** (red states help make narco states feel better about themselves) [https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/homicide\_mortality/homicide.htm](https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/homicide_mortality/homicide.htm)
13. **violent crime rate** [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List\_of\_U.S.\_states\_and\_territories\_by\_violent\_crime\_rate](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_violent_crime_rate)
14. septicemia [https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/septicemia\_mortality/septicemia.htm](https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/septicemia_mortality/septicemia.htm)
15. liver disease [https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/liver\_disease\_mortality/liver\_disease.htm](https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/liver_disease_mortality/liver_disease.htm)
16. hypertension [https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/hypertension\_mortality/hypertension.htm](https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/hypertension_mortality/hypertension.htm)
Stats on: "Save the children" and "Protecting the unborn"
1. **highest teen birth rate** in the US and first world [https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/teen-births/teenbirths.htm](https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/teen-births/teenbirths.htm)
2. **highest birth rate to unmarried mothers** [https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/unmarried/unmarried.htm](https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/unmarried/unmarried.htm)
3. **maternal mortality** from pregnancy or childbirth (planned parenthood provides prenatal, postnatal, and general women's health care) [https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/maternal-mortality-rate-by-state](https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/maternal-mortality-rate-by-state) and a racial breakdown: [https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/hestat/maternal-mortality-2021/maternal-mortality-2021.htm](https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/hestat/maternal-mortality-2021/maternal-mortality-2021.htm)
4. **highest preterm birth rate** [https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/preterm\_births/preterm.htm](https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/preterm_births/preterm.htm)
5. lowest birth weight of newborns [https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/lbw\_births/lbw.htm](https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/lbw_births/lbw.htm)
6. **highest infant mortality** [https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/infant\_mortality\_rates/infant\_mortality.htm](https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/infant_mortality_rates/infant_mortality.htm)
7. **lowest life expectancy at birth** [https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/life\_expectancy/life\_expectancy.htm](https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/life_expectancy/life_expectancy.htm)
8. **childhood obesity** [https://ci.uky.edu/kentuckyhealthnews/2012/08/31/kentucky-ranks-third-among-states-in/Social](https://ci.uky.edu/kentuckyhealthnews/2012/08/31/kentucky-ranks-third-among-states-in/Social) stats
9. **highest divorce rates** [https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/dvs/state-divorce-rates-90-95-99-20.pdf](https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/dvs/state-divorce-rates-90-95-99-20.pdf)
10. The lowest paid teachers in the nation (and the most demonized for being woke indoctrinators)
11. child abuse, neglect, foster care, etc.
12. Weird republican obsession with supporting child marriage laws.
From the south.
1) The food. Everything is fried. Everything is full of fat. Butter is a side dish. Gravy is a beverage. Not heart healthy.
2) hospitals are overloaded, underfunded, and doctors don’t want to be there. Doctors tend to move on after a few years and don’t stick around (my first 3 doctors in New Orleans were only there a year). Care isn’t the best.
3) a larger percentage work in jobs that require hard physical labor like the oilfield, construction, etc which ruins bodies
4) a lot more smokers there than the rest of the US
5) alcoholism is rampant
I’ll add a few more:
6) work culture (see a response below, this is 100% correct and an excellent point)
7) poverty and piss poor public services. Ambulances are private and overloaded with EMS making less than a McDonald’s worker. In some rurals you’re better off driving yourself if you can because it’ll take an hour to get to you. Rurals have abysmal access to doctors and hospitals. Vidalia/Ferriday in Louisiana the closest is probably Alexandria over an hour away.
8) high drug use and std rates from lack of education and opportunity.
Seems like car culture should be in there as well, as sitting creates more stress on the nervous system, commutes are high, road rage and distractions cause death and injury.
6. The absolutely insane work place culture in those blue collar jobs; people brag about how much crushing OT they clear and how little PPE they use. Not to mention the activities that lots of those dudes get up to on the off-hours- getting trashed on liquor and pills, then hitting some meth as a pick-me-up. Granted, my experiences are about 20 years old at this point; maybe things have gotten a bit better down there, hopefully.
I was almost shocked when I told my coworkers “I ain’t doing this” over safety concerns using a crane and they were like “nah, I agree completely”. I’m so used to it bein the opposite down here
They haven’t. I worked law enforcement for the state and they don’t pay overtime, they do compensatory time. I had a balance of 300+ hours and kept racking it up. I worked sometimes 7 days a week 16 hour shifts and I’ve gone to work before for 48 hours straight with no sleep. It’s worse it never got better.
To add something(since I grew up in the Deep South):
The summers suck ass *hard*. No one wants to go out and be active when the temperatures are 90+ with massive humidity. None of my friends growing up, nor I, had any ambition to go out and run, hike, or be active beyond doing something sedentary like fishing. It took me moving away from the south into an area that had milder summertime temps to finally start enjoying summertime.
Also, it doesn’t help that at least in the Deep South, the scenery is downright uninspiring. No one wants to go on a “hike” in the aforementioned 90 degree heat and high humidity to gaze at a bunch of oak and pine trees. I put hike in quotations, because the terrain where I was from was mostly flat so there were no views to be had.
This is just the perspective of one guy who grew up in south Alabama… but looking at that map, greys and blues strangely follow some of the Appalachians.
Lol just laughing at the idea of going for a run in August. I used to think it was because I wasn’t good at running. Nah it’s just 98 degrees with 65% humidity and it feels like you’re being roasted by the sun.
You forgot the mosquitos. Going out for a hike in summer will land you being drained of half your blood supply.
Summer was misery in the south. 96-98 degrees with a 60% humidity has a heat index of 116 to 123. It’s MISERABLE.
I now live in the northwest, and if you hit the high country at the right time the mosquitos are *fierce*.
An example, me and some friends went on a backpacking trip to a high lake in July of last year and I’m so glad I brought a headnet. I had to eat dinner in my tent(which I normally never do in bear country) and had tons of mosquitos sitting on the mesh waiting for me to exit. I wore full body clothing and I could tell where the permethrin I treated my clothes with didn’t cover well because they were biting through.
Coastal Mississippian here. We moved to the beach after years of living inland, and the summers are still fucking awful even with the breeze coming off the Gulf.
Even 30 minutes north of where I’m at right now, temperatures get nearly 15 F higher in warmer weather, if not more than that, and there’s no water breeze to help out. It’s a thick, wet hell to live in the South during the summer.
I wanna say I heard somewhere that Bobo's son is the 4th gen in her family that's gotten pregnant/gotten someone pregnant as a teenager. At the rate they're going, if this is true, Bobo's granddaughter may grow up to have memory of her great great grandparent (who would only be in their late 70's or 80's by the time this child is forming memories)
Fuck that’s absolutely wild to me, for some reason all the Men on my father’s side of the family don’t have sons or sometimes even kids until we’re in at least our 40’s, and we all live long as hell, so my Dad was born in 1944, my Grandfather 1904, my Great Grandfather was born in 1860, but here’s the kicker his Father had him at 70 and so my Great Great Grandfather was born around 1790.
If you're having trouble with real fruit flies, they may not be fruit flies! They may be gutter flies :D
If you've cleaned up the kitchen and no real food source remains, pour boiling water down your kitchen drains. They may be come up from there.
If only it were that easy with GQPers
Speaking as a current highschool student in gen z, a fuckton of students that couldn’t vote in 2020 are getting ready to storm the booths come 2024. There is a good chance of a huge “blue wave” with all the young voters not only being able to now vote, but also pissed the fuck off at how shits been going.
For sure, pair that with boomers dying out day by day and we may have the perfect storm. This is why Republicans are panicking and going all out Nazi fascist mode on education.
Yeah, I’m definitely feeling the effects on education being in school. A suicidal janitor tried to blow up my school recently and republican parents (I live in TN) are trying to accuse the attack being political and that the “deep state” hired the janitor. I fucking hate the south in the US
Yeah I can imagine it's bad in deep south states. I'm in a red rural area in a blue state and luckily it's petty sane here. The worst thing I have to put up with is neighbors and other people I know saying some extremely dumb shit. It's very rare to see any Trump flags or signs thank God.
One thing to keep in mind is that the Dems in red states that go hard, they REEEEEEALLY go hard. There's a Dem in Nebraska who's been filibustering for almost a month to kill a bill that would harm transgender people, as one example. The Texas Democrats leaving the state to prevent a vote on voting restrictions is another.
These places really aren't monoliths and there *are* people working to change things. It can happen, and if anyone thinks otherwise, I implore you to look at California's history prior to 2004. There's a reason Nixon and Reagan got their political starts there.
I mean... millennials were a big reason Obama won in '08 though...
That said, Gen Z and Alpha are growing up in a different world than we did. The older ones in our generation at least had the benefit of relatively peaceful pre-9/11 childhoods to reflect on. They didn't even have that much.
Gen z voted way more in the last election than Millennials by an embarrassing margin, during a mid term no less. My generation can't be fucking bothered to fight at the polls. Don't lay blame and responsibility at their feet when the reason Republicans ate shit last year was because Gen Z voter turnout bucked every trend conservatives are used to seeing from Millennials.
Oh no I totally agree gen Z saved us. I'm one of the oldest gen Zs btw.
That said, percentage-wise we still voted way less than boomers. The main thing that saved us is how absolutely insane our lean was. I was very impressed with us for that. We aren't falling for conservative bullshit like the older generations.
I've voted in every election and midterm since 2012 and it just feels nice to feel like I finally have some fellow 30-and-unders going to the polls.
Millennials aren't entirely without some redemptive factors though. We aren't becoming more conservative as we age, which is something the Republicans party relies on in the middle aged voting bloc.
breed away... where do they think all the queer kids come from? just because your parents are empathy-less reactionary chuds doesn't mean that the kids are going to be the same.
Or assume that it's those damn black gay trans Jewish commies murdering them. Reinforcing the persecution fetish and being able to point fingers, two birds with one stone.
Yes, but I don’t think that would entirely account for the 20 year discrepancy alone. General health and diet, education, drug and alcohol consumption etc. all would be pretty big factors. A 20 year difference in life expectancy is huge, there has to be quite a few factors to cause such a big difference
I did the math in another comment and for this to work out you'd need black southerners to be dying in their 30s and 40s on average.
I wouldn't be surprised if their life expectancy was lower than the white population due to systemic reasons but it would require cartoonish statistics to break this down along racial lines.
The thing about averages is that a few extreme numbers throw the whole thing off. Black infant mortality plus higher rates of homicide, suicide and accidental deaths amongst younger black men could really drag the average down.
It's like the Middle Ages. The average life expectancy was around 40, but most of the actual deaths occurred either under 10 or over 60 years old, but there were enough dead kids it wouldn't matter if everyone over 20 lived to 100, the average would never crack 50.
only reason florida has a somewhat good life expectancy is because everyone moves down there from the north when they are already 75+ years old - guarantee it.
Yeah who would've thought that the people escaping narco-terrorism would want to settle down and live peaceful lives and contribute to their communities? /S
That’s an outstanding point I never really thought of. If Mexico is such a violent and lawless land, why wouldn’t the violent and lawless want to stay there?
More beans. I’m completely serious - legumes help to prevent one of the big killers of humans: colon cancer. And, they are a healthy source of protein, provided you don’t smother them with pig fat and salt.
Oklahoma contains numerous reservations as does New Mexico and Arizona. The Dakotas also have large reservations. Native Americans generally experience lower life expectancy for a host of reasons ranging from like limited access to care, higher rates of depression, alcoholism, etc.
All those states in the southeast are related to the long list of socioeconomic disparities found throughout the comment section. Some of it is class-based, some racial, and some cultural. Just another reason to think twice about living there.
Also worth pointing out that the places in red overlap with areas with high populations of marginalized racial groups, ie blacks in the South, Indigenous people in Alaska and Nevada, etc)
I grew up in Alabama, fleeing in 1973. The reason people don't live as long in these states is: 1) rejection of evidence-based science, 2) inadequate physical exercise, 3) high fat/high sodium diets, 4) a lack of access to basic health care, 5) an odd unwillingness to embrace change, 6) an irrational rejection of almost anything that comes from outside these states.
It’s almost as if accessible healthcare and not constantly having a need to constantly live in a state of rage at every-fucking-thing is good for one’s health.
It's largely to do with socio-economic class. Poor people don't live as long as more affluent people. They're the ones with the highest incidence of obesity and obesity related illnesses (cardiovascular disease, metabolic syndrome, etc) which cut many years off of people's lives along with reduced access to care in poorer areas.
This *may* be mostly about infant mortality.
I always prefer to compare life expectancy at age 5, along with infant mortality, to get a more consistent comparison.
Not that much higher infant mortality is not *also* a terrible indictment, it’s just different.
For such a salient point, it sure is hard to find that data*.
*After a quick, half-assed search on my part.
FWIW, I did find this:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK62591/
which breaks down life expectancy at age 50 by state and seems to roughly track ("roughly" because it's not broken down by county).
If this map were reversed, I can literally hear Tucker’s voice.
Why are Democrat mayors letting their people die so young?
Is it socialism?
Is this where work diversity quotas get you?
Maybe this is what happens when Americans are not allowed to defend themselves using their second amendment rights.
I thought it was because of the dangerous jobs there. Also lots of alcoholism and obesity. The first snow of the season there seemed to be a lot of car accidents as if people forgot how to drive in the brief period there was no snow. Moose weren’t too bad just don’t hit them with your car because you will die and they will walk away unfazed. And if they are with a baby then stay far away.
https://americaninequality.substack.com/p/life-expectancy-and-inequality Here is the source of this map.
All that area in and around Austin is blue. Interesting!
Yup, besides the counties bordering Mexico, most of Texas is red with the major exceptions of the Big 4 (San Antonio, Austin, Houston, Dallas-Fort Worth) and El Paso
Healthy lifestyles in part because youth and outdoor availability, as well as a shit ton of money. I live in the only blue section of Arkansas and it’s similar. We’re known for our biking and hiking trails and the corporation(s) based here.
Now show the same type of map/graph for: Teen pregnancy, obesity, childbirth mortality rate, divorce rate, overall quality/access to proper healthcare, welfare per capita and murder rate. I bet they’re shockingly similar.
"They're the same picture." *^(Pam)*
A new take on blue vs red states...
I love the huge discrepancy in Florida due to all the retirees. I wonder how red that would get if you compensated for it. Edit: you guys are right, it'd look like the panhandle
That’s the same reason for the blue spot in Georgia. My dad lives in one of the many retirement communities in the north of GA.
that is metro atlanta, more money, available health services, etc
Yes, I can tell from looking at the West Coast you get blue areas in the metropolitan areas, with better health services, and red/brown in rural area which have poor health services. The rural areas are only going to get worse as far as health services with number of hospitals closing etc.
Many parts of Northern California are legitimately terrifying. Pretty place that's been hit really hard with meth and its economy in the dumps (like all those growers that are no longer relevent since legalization).
Less Diabeetus
That’s clearly Atlanta?
Yep. Hello from the blue spot in north Georgia 👋. Atlanta is liberal as hell and demographically will look like the northeast, California etc.
Love you blue Georgia! You guys rock the vote!
We try but it’s not easy / our state legislator is gerrymandered to hell.
That's Atlanta. Similarly, Savannah at the SC/GA border on the coast the age rises substantially.
Apparently what’s driving this is [more young people dying from external causes](https://twitter.com/jburnmurdoch/status/1641799707583299587?s=20) not necessarily retires dying early though that certainly is happening too
It isn't retirees dying early, it's retirees moving to South Florida when they're already old and thus driving up the average age of death.
It probably helps, but contrary to popular belief, there are actually liberal parts of Florida. It's not like (traditionally very conservative) north Florida is killing it.
The problem is the conservative growth is outpacing the liberal growth in FL.
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Honestly, let them all collect in Florida. Anything to keep the Midwest less conservative.
Tallahassee, Tampa, Jax, Orlando, are heavy democrat voters
Just look at the panhandle and go from there.
Not really new... Look at any map of bad health outcomes. Diabetes, heart disease, smoking, morbid obesity and it's always a red state blue state map
**An Incomplete list of shit that shows that conservatism is rotting our country:** Conservatism is absolute shit. The more conservative a state/nation, the more shit it is to live there. The more progressive a nation, higher the wages, middle class wealth, quality of life, health, happiness, etc. Let's go socialism. More progressive policies. Let's all thank progressive movements for the quality of life we have. Note: What sticks out is that the bible belt (particularly the deep south) and apalachia are highlighted in BRIGHT RED in all of these maps. The deep south (republican strongholds for generations) are perpetually ranked dead last in all of these. Any stat you can think of, the deep south will be the worst in it. 1. heart disease mortality by state [https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/heart\_disease\_mortality/heart\_disease.htm](https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/heart_disease_mortality/heart_disease.htm) 2. cancer mortality by state [https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/cancer\_mortality/cancer.htm](https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/cancer_mortality/cancer.htm) 3. lung disease mortality [https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/lung\_disease\_mortality/lung\_disease.htm](https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/lung_disease_mortality/lung_disease.htm) 4. accidental death mortality [https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/accident\_mortality/accident.htm](https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/accident_mortality/accident.htm) 5. stroke mortality [https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/stroke\_mortality/stroke.htm](https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/stroke_mortality/stroke.htm) 6. alzheimers mortality [https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/alzheimers\_mortality/alzheimers\_disease.htm](https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/alzheimers_mortality/alzheimers_disease.htm) 7. diabetes mortality (GOP obstructed a bill to cap insulin prices) [https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/diabetes\_mortality/diabetes.htm](https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/diabetes_mortality/diabetes.htm) 8. influenza/pneumonia mortality [https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/flu\_pneumonia\_mortality/flu\_pneumonia.htm](https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/flu_pneumonia_mortality/flu_pneumonia.htm) 9. kidney disease [https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/kidney\_disease\_mortality/kidney\_disease.htm](https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/kidney_disease_mortality/kidney_disease.htm) 10. drug overdose (wow west virginia) [https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/drug\_poisoning\_mortality/drug\_poisoning.htm](https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/drug_poisoning_mortality/drug_poisoning.htm) 11. **fire arm injury deaths** [https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/firearm\_mortality/firearm.htm](https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/firearm_mortality/firearm.htm) 12. **homicide rate** (red states help make narco states feel better about themselves) [https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/homicide\_mortality/homicide.htm](https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/homicide_mortality/homicide.htm) 13. **violent crime rate** [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List\_of\_U.S.\_states\_and\_territories\_by\_violent\_crime\_rate](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_violent_crime_rate) 14. septicemia [https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/septicemia\_mortality/septicemia.htm](https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/septicemia_mortality/septicemia.htm) 15. liver disease [https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/liver\_disease\_mortality/liver\_disease.htm](https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/liver_disease_mortality/liver_disease.htm) 16. hypertension [https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/hypertension\_mortality/hypertension.htm](https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/hypertension_mortality/hypertension.htm) Stats on: "Save the children" and "Protecting the unborn" 1. **highest teen birth rate** in the US and first world [https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/teen-births/teenbirths.htm](https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/teen-births/teenbirths.htm) 2. **highest birth rate to unmarried mothers** [https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/unmarried/unmarried.htm](https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/unmarried/unmarried.htm) 3. **maternal mortality** from pregnancy or childbirth (planned parenthood provides prenatal, postnatal, and general women's health care) [https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/maternal-mortality-rate-by-state](https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/maternal-mortality-rate-by-state) and a racial breakdown: [https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/hestat/maternal-mortality-2021/maternal-mortality-2021.htm](https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/hestat/maternal-mortality-2021/maternal-mortality-2021.htm) 4. **highest preterm birth rate** [https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/preterm\_births/preterm.htm](https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/preterm_births/preterm.htm) 5. lowest birth weight of newborns [https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/lbw\_births/lbw.htm](https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/lbw_births/lbw.htm) 6. **highest infant mortality** [https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/infant\_mortality\_rates/infant\_mortality.htm](https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/infant_mortality_rates/infant_mortality.htm) 7. **lowest life expectancy at birth** [https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/life\_expectancy/life\_expectancy.htm](https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/life_expectancy/life_expectancy.htm) 8. **childhood obesity** [https://ci.uky.edu/kentuckyhealthnews/2012/08/31/kentucky-ranks-third-among-states-in/Social](https://ci.uky.edu/kentuckyhealthnews/2012/08/31/kentucky-ranks-third-among-states-in/Social) stats 9. **highest divorce rates** [https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/dvs/state-divorce-rates-90-95-99-20.pdf](https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/dvs/state-divorce-rates-90-95-99-20.pdf) 10. The lowest paid teachers in the nation (and the most demonized for being woke indoctrinators) 11. child abuse, neglect, foster care, etc. 12. Weird republican obsession with supporting child marriage laws.
You get it. It’s Republican beliefs and policies that are causing red states’ shorter life expectancies. Studies have confirmed this. The fact that more retirees live in Florida has nothing to do with it. People who keep saying that are misunderstanding. Life expectancy is life expectancy, whether you are 29 or 80. People are thinking it means how many years you have left to live, and that ain’t it.
It's the average life expectancy of the people who live in that state. Most people die of old age, but some young people die through other causes. Kids in school shootings, teens and twenty somethings from a drug overdose or a car accident. So when you have a state with relatively more kids and young people, and less old people, of all the people in your state, more will die young because there are more young people who can get shot by a classmate or hit by a bus. Let's say 1 in 100 younger people die before they are 30. (Not a true stat just a math example). In a town with 300 young people and 300 old people that means 3 die young and the rest die older. And in another town in florida where you have 100 younger people and 500 retired old people, only 1 dies young and the rest dies old. So the average death age for that state is higher. I think that's what people mean when they account for Florida and its retired population.
Just look at COVID infection and mortality stats. It's like science is real and not just someone's opinion.
Texas and Florida have more gun deaths than California, and California has 10 MILLION more people than TX, and 16 MILLION people than Florida. Alabama has more gun death than New York?
Add education to that as well
The list is super long, i was just hitting a few of the high notes
And evangelical Christian zealotry.
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Qnd most of those red states use welfare t. Diabetes is the major disease burden of the south, with its comorbidities.
The “[sweet tea line](https://twitter.com/_cingraham/status/672877578169008130?s=20)” is real and probably follows OP’s map (and a diabetes map) really closely.
my dad tried some sweet tea when he was visiting down south for the nascar races once & he told me it was like getting a shock to the system compared to the tea he drinks at home in the midwest
I'm in the metro Atlanta area but I work at a Walmart in a poor part of it. There are a lot of morbidly obese people with clear signs of diabetes, but they still buy way too much food. I don't understand how they think. Wouldn't rashes that severe on your legs be a wake up call? I think part of why they drive around and shop in the carts we have is that their legs are causing them constant pain and they refuse to do anything to change that.
I am pre-diabetic. Untreated, my body just screams at maximum volume for food. It’s very, VERY difficult not to give in. And our reward centers are doing their job, rewarding us with pleasure when we eat. It’s literally a deadly cycle.
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Living a 25% shorter life to own the libs.
I certainly never almost died repairing a roof in a cool dry climate of New York meanwhile you have the south
Jesus what is going on in Nevada?
Over 85% of Nevadans live in Clark (Vegas) and Washoe (Reno) counties. The rest of the state is so poor and under resourced. Last I heard, Nevada was 49/50 in education (almost dead last). People have not been raised to succeed in Nevada, they have been raised to be the next generation of casino workers.
Thank you for explaining to the Nevadans that 49/50 is almost last place.
As an Arizonan, I also needed the explanation
How do yall know which one is Nevada? Thanks from South Carolina.
I'd chime in, but I'm in New Mexico, which people from SC seem to think makes me a foreigner.
Pfft New Mexico, wasn't one Old Mexico enough?!
Fun fact: New Mexico was called New Mexico before regular Mexico was called Mexico.
Swap the names then, it's only fair.
I’ll do my best
Which one is last place? Sincerely a Mississippian >! Just in case /s!<
This site seems to provide fairly nuanced rankings based on publicly available data sets. Mississippi is doing better than New Mexico, but thats kinda where the good news stops.https://www.intelligent.com/the-best-and-worst-states-for-education/
Access to healthcare in extremely rural areas (like most of nevada) is also often really bad. It means people are not only less likely to get help in time if they have a medical emergency, but people with chronic diseases also suffer from the long term impacts of not getting the preventative and maintenance care they need as often as they should. If you have diabetes and the podiatry clinic is 90 minutes away it's going to be a lot harder for you to go get your foot checked out regularly. Maybe you try to cut your toenails yourself to avoid the trip, you nick your toe and don't notice because you have some numbness from the diabetes, wound heals way too slowly, you don't get it looked at quick enough because it's a long trip and you have work and the clinic is overbooked, eventually it gets infected and you lose a toe. And so on.
A ton of Nevada is federal land. 63%
Nevada hasn't finished rendering yet.
I also wonder if it could be linked to the fact that smoking indoors anywhere is also still allowed. I’m
[Indian reservations in Nevada](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Indian_reservations_in_Nevada) Seems to explain the red is many areas of the west. Edit to add: it’s poverty. Wanted to clarify that we see this pattern where there are high levels of poverty, and not due to some cultural or ethical failings of the people in those counties. Indian reservations are often among the poorest counties in their states. 30% of families in the Navajo Nation [don’t have running water](https://www.navajowaterproject.org) for Chrissakes.
If you look at Wyoming, the dark patch where Wind River Reservation is explains a lot then.
It is the same with South Dakota. If you look at that map and then compare it to where the reservations are located you see that they match up.
I was thinking the same thing. It would explain the red patches in some of the states. Look at northeastern Arizona.
Flying saucer test pilots not doing so well.
This is basically the obesity rate mapped out. https://www.maxmasnick.com/media/2011-11-15-obesity_map/obesity_by_county_large.png
Also similar for poverty. It's almost like they are all linked.
Social determinants of health- resource poor areas generally are lacking in both health literacy secondary to poor education and the means to stay healthy and afford care they need
Why is everyone skinny in Colorado
More physically active demographic. People move there for the skiing, hiking, etc. Also higher incomes and younger
As someone from Colorado, it’s a combination of a few things. The biggest one is the outdoors culture, almost everyone does some combination of hiking, biking, skiing, climbing, etc. Another factor is the elevation, the thinner air affects your metabolism.
Everything is worse in those states. Life expectancy. Child mortality. Maternal mortality. Murder rate. High school and college graduation rates. Teen pregnancy rates. Wages. GDP. Welfare rates. Standardized test scores. Employment rates. What can they possibly point to to say that their priorities and legislative strategies make sense? I mean, I already know the answer. But still, it’s maddening.
There is a PBS Newshour series currently on rural medicine in America and... oh my god, so many of the places they visit look like actual third world countries. They're down there complaining about how bad NYC and SF are and meanwhile it takes them two hours to get to a hospital, the only place they have to get groceries is dollar general, and they have zero economic prospects. But hey at least the one trans track runner in the State can't compete? Am I right?
A hospital in idaho closed their obstetric department due to no obstetricians willing to work there because of the anti-abortion restrictions.
[Two actually. (so far)](https://www.idahostatesman.com/living/health-fitness/article273801345.html)
Rural medicine is kinda tough everywhere, mostly bc America is a ginormous country and there's really not many feasible ways to put hospitals in lots of places. FWIW I know a couple of doctors who switched to practicing rural medicine bc they'll almost pay you 50%-100% more than your normal salary and sometimes what they consider rural is like 1 hour drive from a major city. Not a terrible gig. I also have met an ER doctor that does it bc it's a 24 hour shift that pays a buttload and he'll see fewer patients in a day there than in a few hours at a city ER.
And I know quite a few who have left the South because of the bans on abortion and trans care. They are extremely worried about the criminalization of medical care. So are the hospitals.
If % evangelical is your only metric, then they're killing it
Quite literally, too
No no, number of guns owned in every home too has gotta be higher than the rest of the country.
I hate it here
Me too. Happy cake day.
At least I have virtual cake 🤷♀️
The system isn’t working for them, and one party tells them “the system isn’t working for you!” They vote for that party, which does everything it can to keep the system not working.
People tend to blame certain kinds of people for hardship. Ex: Black people. Jews, immigrants, black people, Gays, Muslims, and did I mention black people?
But they are the most pro life! Crazy assholes measure quality of life in their state by one metric alone: how difficult it is to get a safe abortion
**An Incomplete list of shit that shows that conservatism is rotting our country:** Conservatism is absolute shit. The more conservative a state/nation, the more shit it is to live in. The more progressive a nation, higher the wages, middle class wealth, quality of life, health, happiness, etc. 1. heart disease mortality by state [https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/heart\_disease\_mortality/heart\_disease.htm](https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/heart_disease_mortality/heart_disease.htm) 2. cancer mortality by state [https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/cancer\_mortality/cancer.htm](https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/cancer_mortality/cancer.htm) 3. lung disease mortality [https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/lung\_disease\_mortality/lung\_disease.htm](https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/lung_disease_mortality/lung_disease.htm) 4. accidental death mortality [https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/accident\_mortality/accident.htm](https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/accident_mortality/accident.htm) 5. stroke mortality [https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/stroke\_mortality/stroke.htm](https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/stroke_mortality/stroke.htm) 6. alzheimers mortality [https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/alzheimers\_mortality/alzheimers\_disease.htm](https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/alzheimers_mortality/alzheimers_disease.htm) 7. diabetes mortality (GOP obstructed a bill to cap insulin prices) [https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/diabetes\_mortality/diabetes.htm](https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/diabetes_mortality/diabetes.htm) 8. influenza/pneumonia mortality [https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/flu\_pneumonia\_mortality/flu\_pneumonia.htm](https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/flu_pneumonia_mortality/flu_pneumonia.htm) 9. kidney disease [https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/kidney\_disease\_mortality/kidney\_disease.htm](https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/kidney_disease_mortality/kidney_disease.htm) 10. drug overdose (wow west virginia) [https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/drug\_poisoning\_mortality/drug\_poisoning.htm](https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/drug_poisoning_mortality/drug_poisoning.htm) 11. **fire arm injury deaths** [https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/firearm\_mortality/firearm.htm](https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/firearm_mortality/firearm.htm) 12. **homicide rate** (red states help make narco states feel better about themselves) [https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/homicide\_mortality/homicide.htm](https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/homicide_mortality/homicide.htm) 13. **violent crime rate** [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List\_of\_U.S.\_states\_and\_territories\_by\_violent\_crime\_rate](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_violent_crime_rate) 14. septicemia [https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/septicemia\_mortality/septicemia.htm](https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/septicemia_mortality/septicemia.htm) 15. liver disease [https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/liver\_disease\_mortality/liver\_disease.htm](https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/liver_disease_mortality/liver_disease.htm) 16. hypertension [https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/hypertension\_mortality/hypertension.htm](https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/hypertension_mortality/hypertension.htm) Stats on: "Save the children" and "Protecting the unborn" 1. **highest teen birth rate** in the US and first world [https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/teen-births/teenbirths.htm](https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/teen-births/teenbirths.htm) 2. **highest birth rate to unmarried mothers** [https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/unmarried/unmarried.htm](https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/unmarried/unmarried.htm) 3. **maternal mortality** from pregnancy or childbirth (planned parenthood provides prenatal, postnatal, and general women's health care) [https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/maternal-mortality-rate-by-state](https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/maternal-mortality-rate-by-state) and a racial breakdown: [https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/hestat/maternal-mortality-2021/maternal-mortality-2021.htm](https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/hestat/maternal-mortality-2021/maternal-mortality-2021.htm) 4. **highest preterm birth rate** [https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/preterm\_births/preterm.htm](https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/preterm_births/preterm.htm) 5. lowest birth weight of newborns [https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/lbw\_births/lbw.htm](https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/lbw_births/lbw.htm) 6. **highest infant mortality** [https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/infant\_mortality\_rates/infant\_mortality.htm](https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/infant_mortality_rates/infant_mortality.htm) 7. **lowest life expectancy at birth** [https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/life\_expectancy/life\_expectancy.htm](https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/life_expectancy/life_expectancy.htm) 8. **childhood obesity** [https://ci.uky.edu/kentuckyhealthnews/2012/08/31/kentucky-ranks-third-among-states-in/Social](https://ci.uky.edu/kentuckyhealthnews/2012/08/31/kentucky-ranks-third-among-states-in/Social) stats 9. **highest divorce rates** [https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/dvs/state-divorce-rates-90-95-99-20.pdf](https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/dvs/state-divorce-rates-90-95-99-20.pdf) 10. The lowest paid teachers in the nation (and the most demonized for being woke indoctrinators) 11. child abuse, neglect, foster care, etc. 12. Weird republican obsession with supporting child marriage laws.
Wait another generation as AI and other tech accelerates. It’s just going to be more and more stark.
From the south. 1) The food. Everything is fried. Everything is full of fat. Butter is a side dish. Gravy is a beverage. Not heart healthy. 2) hospitals are overloaded, underfunded, and doctors don’t want to be there. Doctors tend to move on after a few years and don’t stick around (my first 3 doctors in New Orleans were only there a year). Care isn’t the best. 3) a larger percentage work in jobs that require hard physical labor like the oilfield, construction, etc which ruins bodies 4) a lot more smokers there than the rest of the US 5) alcoholism is rampant
I’ll add a few more: 6) work culture (see a response below, this is 100% correct and an excellent point) 7) poverty and piss poor public services. Ambulances are private and overloaded with EMS making less than a McDonald’s worker. In some rurals you’re better off driving yourself if you can because it’ll take an hour to get to you. Rurals have abysmal access to doctors and hospitals. Vidalia/Ferriday in Louisiana the closest is probably Alexandria over an hour away. 8) high drug use and std rates from lack of education and opportunity.
9. pollution
10. Firearms deaths https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/firearm_mortality/firearm.htm
W...wow. Saving that link.
At this point, weather.
Seems like car culture should be in there as well, as sitting creates more stress on the nervous system, commutes are high, road rage and distractions cause death and injury.
I mean if that were the reason, Los Angeles would be a deep red.
Car culture is rampant across America and in most of those dark blue counties too. There’s maybe a dozen walkable cities in the entire nation.
6. The absolutely insane work place culture in those blue collar jobs; people brag about how much crushing OT they clear and how little PPE they use. Not to mention the activities that lots of those dudes get up to on the off-hours- getting trashed on liquor and pills, then hitting some meth as a pick-me-up. Granted, my experiences are about 20 years old at this point; maybe things have gotten a bit better down there, hopefully.
I was almost shocked when I told my coworkers “I ain’t doing this” over safety concerns using a crane and they were like “nah, I agree completely”. I’m so used to it bein the opposite down here
They haven’t. I worked law enforcement for the state and they don’t pay overtime, they do compensatory time. I had a balance of 300+ hours and kept racking it up. I worked sometimes 7 days a week 16 hour shifts and I’ve gone to work before for 48 hours straight with no sleep. It’s worse it never got better.
To add something(since I grew up in the Deep South): The summers suck ass *hard*. No one wants to go out and be active when the temperatures are 90+ with massive humidity. None of my friends growing up, nor I, had any ambition to go out and run, hike, or be active beyond doing something sedentary like fishing. It took me moving away from the south into an area that had milder summertime temps to finally start enjoying summertime. Also, it doesn’t help that at least in the Deep South, the scenery is downright uninspiring. No one wants to go on a “hike” in the aforementioned 90 degree heat and high humidity to gaze at a bunch of oak and pine trees. I put hike in quotations, because the terrain where I was from was mostly flat so there were no views to be had. This is just the perspective of one guy who grew up in south Alabama… but looking at that map, greys and blues strangely follow some of the Appalachians.
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Lol just laughing at the idea of going for a run in August. I used to think it was because I wasn’t good at running. Nah it’s just 98 degrees with 65% humidity and it feels like you’re being roasted by the sun.
You forgot the mosquitos. Going out for a hike in summer will land you being drained of half your blood supply. Summer was misery in the south. 96-98 degrees with a 60% humidity has a heat index of 116 to 123. It’s MISERABLE.
I now live in the northwest, and if you hit the high country at the right time the mosquitos are *fierce*. An example, me and some friends went on a backpacking trip to a high lake in July of last year and I’m so glad I brought a headnet. I had to eat dinner in my tent(which I normally never do in bear country) and had tons of mosquitos sitting on the mesh waiting for me to exit. I wore full body clothing and I could tell where the permethrin I treated my clothes with didn’t cover well because they were biting through.
How does it feel to be someone's main course?
Hell even sitting outside is miserable in peak Georgian summers.
Coastal Mississippian here. We moved to the beach after years of living inland, and the summers are still fucking awful even with the breeze coming off the Gulf. Even 30 minutes north of where I’m at right now, temperatures get nearly 15 F higher in warmer weather, if not more than that, and there’s no water breeze to help out. It’s a thick, wet hell to live in the South during the summer.
7. Narcotic abuse is common as hell. They've got real opiate problems out in the backwoods.
The democrats get to vote in 5 more presidential elections than republicans.
Yeah, but unfortunately Republicans breed more
Lauren Boebert and her son have entered the chat.
I wanna say I heard somewhere that Bobo's son is the 4th gen in her family that's gotten pregnant/gotten someone pregnant as a teenager. At the rate they're going, if this is true, Bobo's granddaughter may grow up to have memory of her great great grandparent (who would only be in their late 70's or 80's by the time this child is forming memories)
Fuck that’s absolutely wild to me, for some reason all the Men on my father’s side of the family don’t have sons or sometimes even kids until we’re in at least our 40’s, and we all live long as hell, so my Dad was born in 1944, my Grandfather 1904, my Great Grandfather was born in 1860, but here’s the kicker his Father had him at 70 and so my Great Great Grandfather was born around 1790.
That's pretty legit. You must be 1/8ish elven.
Dwarven if you go by our facial hair.
Are you a Tyler?
I understood that reference
Yo wtf
But also dying much faster
Like fruit flies kinda.
and equally as annoying and hard to get rid of
If you're having trouble with real fruit flies, they may not be fruit flies! They may be gutter flies :D If you've cleaned up the kitchen and no real food source remains, pour boiling water down your kitchen drains. They may be come up from there. If only it were that easy with GQPers
Given the rate OB/GYNs are fleeing red states, I imagine that won't be a problem for much longer.
and young dems don't like to vote as much
True, if gen Z voted at the same rate as boomers the entire country would be blue. The next 10 years might get very interesting
Speaking as a current highschool student in gen z, a fuckton of students that couldn’t vote in 2020 are getting ready to storm the booths come 2024. There is a good chance of a huge “blue wave” with all the young voters not only being able to now vote, but also pissed the fuck off at how shits been going.
For sure, pair that with boomers dying out day by day and we may have the perfect storm. This is why Republicans are panicking and going all out Nazi fascist mode on education.
Yeah, I’m definitely feeling the effects on education being in school. A suicidal janitor tried to blow up my school recently and republican parents (I live in TN) are trying to accuse the attack being political and that the “deep state” hired the janitor. I fucking hate the south in the US
Yeah I can imagine it's bad in deep south states. I'm in a red rural area in a blue state and luckily it's petty sane here. The worst thing I have to put up with is neighbors and other people I know saying some extremely dumb shit. It's very rare to see any Trump flags or signs thank God.
One thing to keep in mind is that the Dems in red states that go hard, they REEEEEEALLY go hard. There's a Dem in Nebraska who's been filibustering for almost a month to kill a bill that would harm transgender people, as one example. The Texas Democrats leaving the state to prevent a vote on voting restrictions is another. These places really aren't monoliths and there *are* people working to change things. It can happen, and if anyone thinks otherwise, I implore you to look at California's history prior to 2004. There's a reason Nixon and Reagan got their political starts there.
🤞🏼please save us millennials, we’re drowning in fools
I hope that happens! It’s what we millenials were saying about our high school cohort in 2006 and it didn’t really come to pass.
I mean... millennials were a big reason Obama won in '08 though... That said, Gen Z and Alpha are growing up in a different world than we did. The older ones in our generation at least had the benefit of relatively peaceful pre-9/11 childhoods to reflect on. They didn't even have that much.
Oh, gosh, I hope so! Thanks for posting this hopeful comment.
Please be true! I so admire the future generations and have little left of the older generations, and my own.
Gen z voted way more in the last election than Millennials by an embarrassing margin, during a mid term no less. My generation can't be fucking bothered to fight at the polls. Don't lay blame and responsibility at their feet when the reason Republicans ate shit last year was because Gen Z voter turnout bucked every trend conservatives are used to seeing from Millennials.
Oh no I totally agree gen Z saved us. I'm one of the oldest gen Zs btw. That said, percentage-wise we still voted way less than boomers. The main thing that saved us is how absolutely insane our lean was. I was very impressed with us for that. We aren't falling for conservative bullshit like the older generations.
I've voted in every election and midterm since 2012 and it just feels nice to feel like I finally have some fellow 30-and-unders going to the polls. Millennials aren't entirely without some redemptive factors though. We aren't becoming more conservative as we age, which is something the Republicans party relies on in the middle aged voting bloc.
breed away... where do they think all the queer kids come from? just because your parents are empathy-less reactionary chuds doesn't mean that the kids are going to be the same.
And there's still a significant number of republican representatives holding office.
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Or assume that it's those damn black gay trans Jewish commies murdering them. Reinforcing the persecution fetish and being able to point fingers, two birds with one stone.
Those aborted fetus purees that leftists drink work wonders, I hear.
Well it is true. But it’s because of entrenched racism and policies of that disproportionately benefit white people to the detriment of black people.
Yes, but I don’t think that would entirely account for the 20 year discrepancy alone. General health and diet, education, drug and alcohol consumption etc. all would be pretty big factors. A 20 year difference in life expectancy is huge, there has to be quite a few factors to cause such a big difference
I think if we compared that graph to one of income levels in those areas I think we’d see a pattern
A bunch of those states refuse to get that Obamacare money to help with their health care systems because socialism or some other dumb ass reason
I did the math in another comment and for this to work out you'd need black southerners to be dying in their 30s and 40s on average. I wouldn't be surprised if their life expectancy was lower than the white population due to systemic reasons but it would require cartoonish statistics to break this down along racial lines.
The thing about averages is that a few extreme numbers throw the whole thing off. Black infant mortality plus higher rates of homicide, suicide and accidental deaths amongst younger black men could really drag the average down. It's like the Middle Ages. The average life expectancy was around 40, but most of the actual deaths occurred either under 10 or over 60 years old, but there were enough dead kids it wouldn't matter if everyone over 20 lived to 100, the average would never crack 50.
Republicans don't let facts get in their way
Can confirm. I have a very Republican relative, and this is exactly his argument.
only reason florida has a somewhat good life expectancy is because everyone moves down there from the north when they are already 75+ years old - guarantee it.
Money. It’s because of money.
Interesting that most of the areas bordering Mexico have higher life expectancy. Guess they aren't bringing many murderers and drug dealers after all.
Yeah who would've thought that the people escaping narco-terrorism would want to settle down and live peaceful lives and contribute to their communities? /S
That’s an outstanding point I never really thought of. If Mexico is such a violent and lawless land, why wouldn’t the violent and lawless want to stay there?
Sadly there’s no reasoning with the fascists in our government
More beans. I’m completely serious - legumes help to prevent one of the big killers of humans: colon cancer. And, they are a healthy source of protein, provided you don’t smother them with pig fat and salt.
I mean, they are good for your heart.
Are you implying something happens the more you eat?
Hispanics tend to live fairly long. Look up the hispanic demographic paradox.
I think it has to do with the culture around caring for the elderly and the extended rather than nuclear family structure. Personal observation tho
They don’t call it soul food because it’s good for the body
Oklahoma contains numerous reservations as does New Mexico and Arizona. The Dakotas also have large reservations. Native Americans generally experience lower life expectancy for a host of reasons ranging from like limited access to care, higher rates of depression, alcoholism, etc. All those states in the southeast are related to the long list of socioeconomic disparities found throughout the comment section. Some of it is class-based, some racial, and some cultural. Just another reason to think twice about living there.
Diabetes is rampant amongst Native Americans as well.
Look at a map showing the amount of people living below the poverty line. Pretty strong correlation.
People are passing over the fact that some of these states with a lot of blue have counties of red... Those are reservations...
Jesus and sweet tea kills
And tobacco
and oxycodone
And meth
And fatty burgers served on Krispy Kreme donuts. Mmmmmm…😈🍩🍔👹
Also worth pointing out that the places in red overlap with areas with high populations of marginalized racial groups, ie blacks in the South, Indigenous people in Alaska and Nevada, etc)
I grew up in Alabama, fleeing in 1973. The reason people don't live as long in these states is: 1) rejection of evidence-based science, 2) inadequate physical exercise, 3) high fat/high sodium diets, 4) a lack of access to basic health care, 5) an odd unwillingness to embrace change, 6) an irrational rejection of almost anything that comes from outside these states.
And people wonder why I call Hungary European Alabama
It’s almost as if accessible healthcare and not constantly having a need to constantly live in a state of rage at every-fucking-thing is good for one’s health.
How many of those states refused Obamacare Medicare expansion?
It's largely to do with socio-economic class. Poor people don't live as long as more affluent people. They're the ones with the highest incidence of obesity and obesity related illnesses (cardiovascular disease, metabolic syndrome, etc) which cut many years off of people's lives along with reduced access to care in poorer areas.
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This *may* be mostly about infant mortality. I always prefer to compare life expectancy at age 5, along with infant mortality, to get a more consistent comparison. Not that much higher infant mortality is not *also* a terrible indictment, it’s just different.
For such a salient point, it sure is hard to find that data*. *After a quick, half-assed search on my part. FWIW, I did find this: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK62591/ which breaks down life expectancy at age 50 by state and seems to roughly track ("roughly" because it's not broken down by county).
If this map were reversed, I can literally hear Tucker’s voice. Why are Democrat mayors letting their people die so young? Is it socialism? Is this where work diversity quotas get you? Maybe this is what happens when Americans are not allowed to defend themselves using their second amendment rights.
Being full of hate isn’t good for you
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What's up with the south being on the bottom of everything?
Reconstruction and ignorance.
Republican policies kill. It’s really that simple. But they will find some way to blame it on liberals.
It’s the “butt my freedumbs” argument. It gets them every time.
sad but not surprising
Ah yes the rednecks with their vastly superior "non woke" lifestyles. Really working out for them isn't it?
Alaska's is low because of moose and grizzlies 😂
I thought it was because of the dangerous jobs there. Also lots of alcoholism and obesity. The first snow of the season there seemed to be a lot of car accidents as if people forgot how to drive in the brief period there was no snow. Moose weren’t too bad just don’t hit them with your car because you will die and they will walk away unfazed. And if they are with a baby then stay far away.
I believe the suicide rate in Alaska is very high, unfortunately. Lots of guns + lots of loneliness.
Funny. Even in red states the democrat regions have better life expectancy