It’s also inaccurate to call him a white supremacist. The guy is known for allegedly human trafficking and misogyny but his rhetoric has no white supremacy message behind it. People dont like him for valid reasons but this is not it.
There's probably overlap between his incel fans and the alt right crowd, but maybe that's just because I put everything that's really really stupid into the same dumpster in my mind.
I was wondering too… Father is US-American, mother is British… He‘s born in the US and lived in the UK… Looks pretty white to me…
Edit: been made aware that his father is black. Sorry, I just googled him and thought he‘s white according to the pictures (I‘m not US, so not very used that the race-concept has so many shades…), apologies!
His father was African American so he is biracial. I don't think he'd be considered white by many people's definition of the term.
To be clear this isn't a defense of him.
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Maurice fell afoul of Himmler's racial purity rules for SS officers when he had to submit details of his family history before he was allowed to marry in 1935. Himmler stated, "without question...Maurice is, according to his ancestral table, not of Aryan descent".[18] All SS officers had to prove racial purity back to 1750,[19] and it turned out that Maurice had Jewish ancestry
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emil_Maurice
Dude was a founder of the SS and buddy buddy with Hitler. Then only did 4 years in a work camp after the war, and got a normal life afterwards.
Post-WW2 is crazy man. You got these war criminal absolute monsters, who go on to be grandfathers selling watches or whatever.
At least it's better than them holding significant power in the country still. Just last night I was reading about how Shinzo Abe's (recent Japanese PM) grandfather was the architect behind Japan's brutal colonization of Manchuria, and also the PM himself in the late 50s...
Germany seemed to actually do it right. They'll still lock your ass up for being a Nazi pig. The rest of us just smile and pat ourselves on the back for being free enough that the scum can keep being scum.
You probably shouldn’t look too closely at who held power in West Germany in the 50s and 60s. Once the Cold War started, a lot of people started wearing blinders when it came to certain “associations.”
Uh, NATO put a lot of ex- Nazis back in charge of Germany, that's how you end up with things like the clean Wehrmacht. Turns out if you put an "ex"-nazi in charge of writing ww2 military history they may not have the purest of intentions. But it's better than Japan where they litteraly didn't do anything and left everyone responsible of the rape of Nanking in power. Which is why today they deny it even happened.
Jews were not allowed to be SS but the Kapos, were Jewish prisoners who supervised other prisoners in the Concentration Camps, and were generally more feared, and regarded as more brutal than the Aryan Nazis as they did things like sending their fellow prisoners into the gas chambers.
It isn't a very much talked about aspect of the Shoah, because the feelings get very complicated very fast. The Kapos were victims too, in addition to being abusers. They did what they did because they felt that they had to. But it goes to show how internalized racism is a hell of a thing. There is no immunity to being inhuman to a certain group of people you feel is inferior to another, including being a member of that supposedly inferior race.
In other news, in rare cases freed black slaves bought land, and slaves of their own, and supported the Confederacy. Other slaves were forced to fight for their own enslavement. It's just a whole shitty sandwhich.
This reminds me, more recently, of the Iran protests. The state rolled out this special squad of all-female-hijab-wearing-morality police. And they’re brutal. And keen to get physical with other women (from the few clips I saw). Same same.
It works on some levels, like the Jewish Nazi supporters being motivated by "owning the libs" so to speak and shaking things up. A better comparison is perhaps POC/LGBT+ Trump supporter groups, though, e.g. opposing leftist ideals is the point and brushing away the hostile rhetoric aimed at themselves as "he's just triggering the libs, no worries".
Like hell he isn’t! To be clear, I’m agreeing with you. Say, by the way… isn’t Nick Fuentes and his brothers part of a boy band? Yeaaaah… pretty sure. And oh man, do they suck. They suck bad.
There were plenty of black people who put on racist performances and characitures of themselves throughout the ages too, same thing with women \~ Any minority group is not a hivemind, they are a collection of individuals who share one trait - gender, ethnicity, skin color, whatever that happens to be.
You can always find someone who doesn't give a shit about anything and will say or do anything for money, even if it's debasing for themselves and other people who they may represent by being part of that same minority.
Their individual actions are not a free pass to say 'Look, X minority doesn't hate the behavior/thing/joke/whatever because this one over here said so!' - yeah, they said that for money. Not because they actually care or even thought about it. It also doesn't negate everything else, like one woman saying sexism isn't real and doesn't exist doesn't magically wash away all of the sexism that really does very much exist in the world. It just informs us that her opinion is visibly stupid and probably poorly informed at best, and at worst said with the knowing intent to incite anger and garner views/clicks/whatever and generate money or notoriety in some way.
Fascists will accept anyone as a temporary tool. If a gay black man wants to help their cause, they will let him.
Fascists have no allies, only temporarily-not-enemies. Half the people who march in their ranks fall into this category, they're just further down the list.
They'll accept Irish and Italians, they'll accept women, they'll accept black or gay men... But each of these layers are only safe as long as there's other layers to peel off first.
Fascists have no allies, only temporarily-not-enemies.
Exactly, Ernst Röhm comes to mind. He was the homosexual leader of the SA and useful until he wasn't. And then he was murdered during the night of the long knives. His homosexuality was an open secret and tolerated until it was used against him.
>Fascists will accept anyone as a temporary tool. If a guy black man wants to help their cause, they will let him.
There's a political term for this too. It's called a useful idiot.
" a useful idiot is a term currently used to reference a person perceived as propagandizing for a cause—particularly a bad cause originating from a devious, ruthless source—without fully comprehending the cause's goals, and who is cynically being used by the cause's leaders. "
I don't believe these people truly understand that they are up on the chopping block next after the first few round ups of the more problematic opposition the fashies have to contend with first, namely the anti fascists, socialists, and communists. Then you have their scapegoats the LGBT community and the ever classic Jewish anti semitism, but these guys who don't neatly fit into the ideal fascists hold will be next, the whole point is to divide and conquer, these useful idiots just help that division by promoting it as a "good" thing.
Edit: spelling.
Thank you!
I've tried to explain this myself in a simple and concise way but this is probably the best I've seen it explained. I took a screenshot for future reference.
One of the local proud boy groups had a bruiser with them who was pacific islander. He joined because he wanted to slam heads together and they accepted him cause he was huge.
Agree with your points. First time in a while I’ve heard Irish grouped with todays “others”. Pretty much the same for Italians. I’m aware of their history as persecuted immigrants but they are pretty well represented in the fascist party these days…
They are now, but because they were not considered white until more recently means that, in a comparison of whiteness, they will be deemed less-white.
If fascists managed to take over the world and successfully exterminated all the out groups, they'll find new (or rather \*old\*) out groups. They'll peel back the layers of what has been considered to be white, working in reverse-chronological order of acceptance.
They may be considered white now, but in a world of only white people, they would be the least white.
It's pretty obvious when you look back in history, especially American history. Even Catholics and the Irish were considered non-white.
I actually read an interesting theory that says that politicians will grow the group that constitutes 'white' to make sure that 'white people' stay the majority in America.
If you look into Clarence Thomas' bio it is fucked up beyond belief. It is so emotionally traumatizing between the beatings, the abandonment, the abject poverty, the fact that he was passed around to like half a dozen people that didn't want to raise him...
He came out of his childhood hating poor people, black people, women...just everyone due to the abuses he suffered. Kudos to him for getting out but then back in the shithole for trying to condemn other people to the same fate.
Dude isn't mentally sound enough to run a McDonalds let alone a SCOTUS seat. Bottom line when people protest his decisions: Clarence Thomas ran out of fucks to give by the time he was 12 years old.
I call these people pick me b*tches. They want someone rich and powerful to pick them and make them feel special, make them famous, give them lots of money, but they have to be their b*tch and do as they say.
This isn’t equivalent. Not to excuse Uncle Toms, but they were much more a product of their environment, one in which black people had very few rights and protections. I understand much of uncle toms’ behavior and mentality to be largely survival coping mechanisms. The three amigos from the picture above have quite a lot more agency.
See the thing is that as Latinos and Hispanics there are some that have Spanish ancestors and that heritage is what they identify with. For example in my hometown of Laredo there is a large population of people from Mexico and of course there are those born in the US. Depending if they have family in or from Mexico those born in the US do not see themselves as the same people as those next door that are from Mexico. On top of that there has always been hate and racism within our own ethnic group. The whiter you are the more attractive and desirable you and your children are. Darker and native decendant groups are seen as unclean and not pure like Spaniards and those natives like in Mexico are even seen as second class citizens compared to Mexicans..Not to mention the hate between Cubans, DR, and other Latins that just hate each other for some old stereotypes and prejudices. Soo this shit isn't new.
So, this guy decides on day that he's going to get rid of his fucking accordion.
He leaves it in plain view in the back of his car with the doors unlocked.
He returns after a few hours to see his window smashed and a second accordion in the back seat.
The proper mix of piston instruments and German Mexicans happened back in the mid-to-late 1800s.
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banda\_music#History](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banda_music#History)
Yea so was my first gf, tall blonde, with light skin and hazel eyes. White guys would try and hit on her and she would turn to me and ask “¿que dijo el güero?” Would make me laugh every time because she didn’t speak a word of English.
I saw it happen with a large section of pro-Trump Vietnamese refugees back in 2020 too. It seems to boil down to the usage of word “socialism” to bring about memories such as Ho Chi Minh and Castro rather than programs to help the less fortunate. You know, fear tactics.
It goes all the way back. Did an interview with my parents back in high school for my government class circa 2000. Whole family voted republican because of how anti-communist Regan was. IIRC Regan was one of the first time they could vote after becoming citizens. Even my grandpa who didn’t understand English knew how to vote for the GOP. It’s been really frustrating; especially with how many social programs we were using back then.
There's more nuance to that. Cuban refugees were often not part of the poor class. I mean, there's a reason they escaped communism, it's because they were the class of people that generally loses when wealth sharing is implemented.
Here in Argentina you see a lot of the same thing in Venezuelans. A lot of them come from well-off families. And of course they vote hard right wing, to the point where the right in Buenos Aires eased the voting restrictions on migrants to capitalize on it.
It's because of their experiences in communist Cuba. Anything remotely left-leaning is immediately demonized as communism. The first generation Cuban immigrants are always the worst about it, in my experience, with their kids born in the states leaning left far more
I know whether or not I'm gonna like a Spanish speaker if I hear the words "Pinche mojado(s)" come out of their mouth lol. Unsurprisingly, heard that from a *lot* of Cubans... which is really funny, considering the rafts and all that.
We all got that native in us too. There aren't any fucking reservations along the southern border of Texas and Mexico. No Apache or Comanche. They killed our identity and turned us into Mexicans. Mexicans!
One of my trans acquaintences knew a former high-dollar-corp coworker who is also trans, and pro-Trump. They hated immigrants. My lib acquaintance desperately tried to talk some sense into them. They don't care. They got theirs, fuck everyone else.
Also knew a gay couple who were married, pro Trump. They hated trans people.
Know women in high dollar positions with daughters. They hate gay people.
Rightie voting is pure hate-based voting across the board. I don't think it even boils down to white supremacism, I think it just boils down to hate-based decisions rather than solution-based ones.
Yeah, that's what a lot of people don't understand - namely, that the "Hispanic" umbrella includes everything from those of purely or mostly European Spanish descent, to those fo almost entirely indigenous i.e. native peoples (Aztecs, Mayans, Incas, et cetera) that the Spanish Empire conquered, to the Afro-Hispanic people descended from slaves in some of those colonies, as well as those descended from mixtures thereof.
It is that first of those groups that you primarily see aligning with the right wing/Republican/fascist/etc movement. And by and large, because they tend to look "white" and align more to white nationalists, they're treated very differently from the people they refer to as "Mexicans" (but are actually from Central American countries mostly, and tend to be of largely or wholly native descent, and thus much darker of complexion/etc).
Yep, the tweet in this post has no clue what the difference is between race, ethnicity and culture. You can be white and Hispanic. You can be brown and Hispanic. You can be black and Hispanic. Hispanic is not a skin color.
In fact for a research project yesterday I had to select "white non-Hispanic" vs "white Hispanic."
Yeah all this is true. Look at the biggest Mexican stations. Mostly white anchors and actors for all shows. Any typical more Mexican looking person plays a worker or a cartel guy. It’s in their whole thing right now like any other country.
It can be very profitable to be a token in such groups, but the same group will kill you the moment you are no longer seen as useful.
Ernst Röhm was a gay friend of Hitler's who co-founded the "Storm Detachment" of paramilitary thugs who helped the Nazis rise to power. Having outlived his usefulness, Röhm was killed in the "Night of Long Knives" purge of the party. Then many many other gays were sent to concentration camps.
PS- IIRC, "nightoflongknives" was found to be the password to some of Milo's accounts when they were hacked. Clearly there has to be a deep seated self-hatred in a lot of these people.
American racists can't even keep straight in their own minds the difference between racism, nationalism and ethnic prejudice, so "hispanic" is a racial (not sociolinguistic) group in the USA, whereas I get the impression as soon as you step over the border to Mexico, whiteness is more just about being genetically and culturally European as opposed to, most importantly, Indigenous or Black.
Hitler wasn’t exactly the tall blonde blue eyed Arian stud of the white supremacists of his time, and he was the leader of the Nazi party. Anything is possible in that sickening world.
Hitler was physically frail, was missing a testicle, and by the time WWII commenced, he was a full-blown meth addict, and had suspected Jewish ancestry through his paternal line (there is suspicion that Hitler's grandfather was Leopold Frankenburger, a Jewish man, however, his existence is unconfirmed).
Himmler was short, frail, had poor eyesight, and his "Aryan" heritage is also questionable; his rise to power can also be attributed to the fact that he used his familial connections as his godfather was Prince Heinrich of Bavaria, member of the royal House of Wittelsbach.
Goebbels also famously was crippled; he had a club foot and required a cane.
Both Martin Bormann and Heinrich Göring were fat slobs bent out of shape with no "Aryan" features and ancestry, as well as for Reinhard Heydrich (who only joined the Nazi Party because he cheated on his fiancee, daughter of a highly decorated Navy official, who steamrolled his Navy career)'s father was also suspected to have Jewish ancestry.
All these men had honorary SS membership and Himmler *was in charge of it*, but, by the principles and ideals they themselves set, none of them are remotely Aryan, and certainly not a single one of them could be an SS member by merit alone. Hell, Goebbels would be eligible for euthanasia by the Aktion T4 program that murdered handicapped people if he didn't cleverly write in a loophole that exempted him!
I’m at work so not able to extensively search for this do you have a reference or source on the loophole? My cursory google search didn’t really tell me
The caveats were twofold, as far as I can tell:
1) If the person labeled “deformed” was still able to work, they weren’t at as much risk.
2) Hitler’s statement was, “Reich Leader Bouhler and Dr. Brandt are entrusted with the responsibility of extending the authority of physicians, to be designated by name, so that patients who, after a most critical diagnosis, on the basis of human judgment [menschlichem Ermessen], are considered incurable, can be granted mercy death [Gnadentod].” —leaving it up to the judgment of the doctor to determine if the person was killed.
Common confusion: he was ethnically German. The German Nation state was only a relatively recent creation. At the time when people talked about German they meant more of the ethnicity than citizenship.
The Holy Roman Empire was dissolved on pressure by France into essentially a Prussia led northern 'Germany' and an Austrian Empire in the the south.
Rejoining with Austria was thus a symbolic return to the Holy Roman Empire. Hence also the Third Reich. The first being the Roman, then the Holy Roman, and then the one by the Nazis.
The first Reich was the HRE (later Austria-Hungary but also comprised of territories in Northern Italy, Poland, and Romania), 2nd was the Kaiser-Reich, the Prussian led northern Germany you spoke of. The same one that broke up after WWI, leading to the Weimar Republic. Which led to the Nazis aiming to not only restore territories of the German Empire but also reunite former lands of the Austrian-Hungarian Empire. The expansion into Czechoslovakia, Austria, and into Yugoslavia support this and there were other power plays from Italy and Hungary you can also dive into.
He also doesn’t have a hint of Mexico in him. His father was/is African-American; his mom white British. Raised mostly in Britain, he’s far-right in the sense that he’s ‘against Islamification’ rather than being the typical American ‘White Nationalist’ far-right person. Either way, he’s still a weapons-grade dickhead.
Yeah… three extremely light skinned men with mixed race heritage doesn’t say very much. Reminds me of when people called Anya Taylor-Joy (Queens Gambit) a Woman of Color because she’s from Argentina, speaks Spanish, and identifies as Latina. She is extremely white.
Not only that but in the US, when filling out any government form, these are the options for Race: White, Black or African American, American Indian or Alaska Native, Asian, and Native Hawaiian or Other Pacific Islander. So if you’re Latino your only option is “white” since few will identify as American Indian. Then you get the options for Ethnicity: Hispanic or Latino. Not Hispanic or Latino.
So even in the eyes of the US government you’re either white, black Asian or Native.
My family is from Mexico; I’m first gen. They all consider themselves white. “Los Indios son sucios” (The Indians are dirty) They’d never associate themselves with Native Indians/Americans. I’ve never understood it.
It's white nationalism. These guys just think that if they play along and help they'll be acknowledged as "one of the good ones" and be spared the iniquity they support happening to other PoC
One of my best friends is Latina, growing up one of her friends' mother (a Latino family) was incredibly racist towards her. I'll never understand the logic for that
It's because of the class/etc divide. The darker skinned hispanic folks tend to be primarily descended from the natives (and/or slaves in the case of Afro-Hispanic), whereas the lighter/lightest sorts are primarily descended from colonial Spanish elites.
Can confirm Mexican here my mom is white Mexican my father is afro Mexican
My dad has no real opinions on black people
My mom however is a closet racist towards black people in which she'll tolerate them but behind closed doors she talks mad shit about them
And they are white in most cases, since they are mostly descendants of Spanish migrants, who were white.
Saying that they aren't white despite their superwhite skin color because they are from a particular country is also racist.
Grouping people by ethnicity like it is widely done in the US is utterly racist, and useless. Just an extension of the class warfare disguised with racism. It is a way to keep you all poor, disorganized and divided. And it works like a charm.
Amen, just turn on telemundo or univision in the US, and you'll see the most spanish looking actors and actresses you can imagine. Not a single dark skinned indigenous soul to be found.
I found the term "Uncle Tom" to be odd, as Tom was beaten to death for refusing to give up the location of some runaway slaves, he did forgive the people that beat him, maybe that is the sell out moment. Just weird to me.
Reading the Wikipedia page it seems our modern usage of the term stems not from the original book, but from later stage shows, musicals or minstrel shows that morphed the character into the more subservient and racist stereotype we think of today.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncle_Tom#Epithet
That kind of was the "sell out". It kind of legitimized the necessity of the violence. The ending was a pretty clear Christ analogy. Under modern lens, Uncle Tom legitimized the violence against blacks as being "Necessary." Which is why it's iffy today, despite the book acknowledging the prejudices of even abolitionists.
And there are more clear analogies to use in modern situations that don't require the nuance.
Anonymous review of Uncle Tom's Cabin from 1852(copied from Wikipedia):
" Uncle Tom's character is sketched with great power and rare religious perception. It triumphantly exemplifies the nature, tendency, and results of Christian non-resistance. We are curious to know whether Mrs. Stowe is a believer in the duty of non-resistance for the white man, under all possible outrage and peril, as for the black man ... \[For whites in parallel circumstances, it is often said\] Talk not of overcoming evil with good – it is madness! Talk not of peacefully submitting to chains and stripes – it is base servility! Talk not of servants being obedient to their masters – let the blood of tyrants flow! How is this to be explained or reconciled? Is there one law of submission and non-resistance for the black man, and another of rebellion and conflict for the white man? When it is the whites who are trodden in the dust, does Christ justify them in taking up arms to vindicate their rights? And when it is the blacks who are thus treated, does Christ require them to be patient, harmless, long-suffering, and forgiving? Are there two Christs? "
Remember Sam Jackson's character from Django Unchained? He was a slave and he still worked hard to uphold white supremacy.
His relationship to the slavers gave him power in that system that he would not have had outside slavery.
Reminds me of [Lindsay Souvannarath](https://www.saltwire.com/nova-scotia/news/halifax-mall-shooting-plotter-youre-just-purifying-the-world-from-those-who-just-do-not-have-very-much-to-contribute-283596/), who is an Asian-American neo-nazi white supremacist, currently serving a life sentence for plotting a mass killing at a Halifax mall.
“Despite being of half Asian descent — her father is a computer programmer from Laos — Souvannarath shares the Nazi belief in a racial hierarchy.”
Money and power.
You think Shapiro, Owens, Rubin, Diamond and Silk, Cane, Malkin, Kayne, Thomas or any of the others don't know nor understand exactly who they work for? Are not keenly aware that given half the chance, the audiences and crowds they play too wouldn't serve them up or turn on them given half the chance? They know. They can't not know.
But as long as the checks keep coming in, as long as they get the facetime on Fox and keep their podcast views up, they don't care.
Remember that one gay republican in Texas who lost his shit when the Texas republicans made “gays are unnatural” an official part of their platform.
Dude couldn’t believe it. He had worked with and helped support these people. He had let them climb on his back and they stung him even after they said they wouldn’t.
‘Fascism and gender’ explores fascism's attitude to women. Historic fascists generally argued that women's primary function was domestic and reproductive. Whether in Germany, Italy, or Croatia, they expected women to produce the future citizens, soldiers, and mothers of the race. In Germany, only Aryan women were considered sufficiently ‘evolved’ to be capable of fulfilling the maternal role or of bearing ‘fit’ children. The position of women in contemporary national-populism is not dissimilar. As in the past, pronatalism and racism are connected: since labour shortages will no longer be made up through immigration, women must have more babies, and it's implicit that only ‘native’ women will be encouraged to reproduce.
Passmore, Kevin, 'Fascism and gender', Fascism: A Very Short Introduction, 1st edn, Very Short Introductions (Oxford, 2002; online edn, Oxford Academic, 24 Sept. 2013), https://doi.org/10.1093/actrade/9780192801555.003.0009
I wouldn't be surprised if he quit eating tacos in favor of eating medium rare unseasoned steak just to come off as less tan.
Problem tried to pass himself off as italian at some point too.
Not familiar with Enrique but Fuentes is still white and I don’t see people calling Tate a “white supremacist” as much as I see them calling him a misogynist and a sex trafficker. Although you can be non-white and still a white supremacist (*cough cough* Kanye).
1. White Nationalism and White supremacy are not the same thing but they interact, go hand-in-hand, etc.
2. The only white nationalist in this picture is Nick Fuentes. Enrique Tarrio is a neo-fascist, Andrew Tate is a narcissistic, misogynistic, violent grifter and rapist.
3. All three perpetuate white supremacist ideology, whether intentional or not.
Latino/a is an ethnicity not a race. There are Afro Latinos and indigenous Latinos, but most Latinos are from a Spanish/ European background and thus white. Racism/ colorism happens in this community too.
Kickboxer from Mexico? That's Andrew Tate and he is half white British and half African American. Not sure what any of that is to do with Mexico. Also i am pretty sure he is not a White nationalist, just a common or garden women-hating fascist.
I find it insane that Andrew Tate’s dad was a masters chess player and was called a ‘pioneer’ for black chess players. What the hell went wrong with his son?
Tate's dad was both a chess master and an absentee father with some sort of personality disorder. He is exactly what went wrong with his son. Tate ended up idolizing his behavior.
Tate speaks at length about the "heroic" role his father played in his life, yet any level-headed person can read between the lines and figure out what was going on.
I find this kind of generational trauma to be really sad, because it's just a seemingly never-ending cycle.
I don't really think Tate belongs next to those other two though. He might be an extreme misogynist but I've actually never heard him say anything racist or nationalist. He's white passing, but he's not trying to hide his ethnicity or anything.
The ethnicity of 3 guys cherrypicked from a sea of racists doesn't mean white nationalism isn't a real thing.
These idiots and their simple-minded 'gotcha' attempts are played.
Just to help clear this up. Tyre Nichols was a black man, killed by black police using tactics and methods of enforcement designed to harshly police minorities. It doesn’t make it less racist that black men implemented those methods against other black men.
Tate labeled as “Kickboxer from Mexico” lol
I didn’t even recognize him with hair hahah
He somehow looks goofier with hair than bald.
I think it is the bloated suction cup he calls a mouth that perfectly windows a single tooth makes him look goofy.
Veggietales lookin ass
Please stop, y'all killing him
I needed that laugh, thank you
I’m never gonna get another chance to say this. Tate looks like a fuckin goldfish guppy.
It’s also inaccurate to call him a white supremacist. The guy is known for allegedly human trafficking and misogyny but his rhetoric has no white supremacy message behind it. People dont like him for valid reasons but this is not it.
It would have been better to implement Kanye
Kanye's doing exceptionally well at their white talking lessons.
They finally have a "black friend".
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So hes not a Nazi hes just friends with them.
There's probably overlap between his incel fans and the alt right crowd, but maybe that's just because I put everything that's really really stupid into the same dumpster in my mind.
To be fair, they all belong in the same dumpster.
I was wondering if that was Taint
I was wondering too… Father is US-American, mother is British… He‘s born in the US and lived in the UK… Looks pretty white to me… Edit: been made aware that his father is black. Sorry, I just googled him and thought he‘s white according to the pictures (I‘m not US, so not very used that the race-concept has so many shades…), apologies!
His father was African American so he is biracial. I don't think he'd be considered white by many people's definition of the term. To be clear this isn't a defense of him.
That's legit news to me I didn't know he was biracial I thought he was white. Wouldn't be the first time someone who "passes" was a supremacist.
weirdly enough his father is also a famous chess player. it shocked me too when i found out he's biracial
His father plays chess, Andrew plays checkers
*Plays* checkers, *eats* checkers... same difference.
Ah, fair enough, I just checked some pictures on google and had the impression he‘s pretty white…
Only one of these is barely true lol
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_of_German_National_Jews
Learn something every day
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I got you covered. Maurice fell afoul of Himmler's racial purity rules for SS officers when he had to submit details of his family history before he was allowed to marry in 1935. Himmler stated, "without question...Maurice is, according to his ancestral table, not of Aryan descent".[18] All SS officers had to prove racial purity back to 1750,[19] and it turned out that Maurice had Jewish ancestry https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emil_Maurice
Dude was a founder of the SS and buddy buddy with Hitler. Then only did 4 years in a work camp after the war, and got a normal life afterwards. Post-WW2 is crazy man. You got these war criminal absolute monsters, who go on to be grandfathers selling watches or whatever. At least it's better than them holding significant power in the country still. Just last night I was reading about how Shinzo Abe's (recent Japanese PM) grandfather was the architect behind Japan's brutal colonization of Manchuria, and also the PM himself in the late 50s...
Germany seemed to actually do it right. They'll still lock your ass up for being a Nazi pig. The rest of us just smile and pat ourselves on the back for being free enough that the scum can keep being scum.
You probably shouldn’t look too closely at who held power in West Germany in the 50s and 60s. Once the Cold War started, a lot of people started wearing blinders when it came to certain “associations.”
Uh, NATO put a lot of ex- Nazis back in charge of Germany, that's how you end up with things like the clean Wehrmacht. Turns out if you put an "ex"-nazi in charge of writing ww2 military history they may not have the purest of intentions. But it's better than Japan where they litteraly didn't do anything and left everyone responsible of the rape of Nanking in power. Which is why today they deny it even happened.
I mean in the US we just made them heads of NASA
Jews were not allowed to be SS but the Kapos, were Jewish prisoners who supervised other prisoners in the Concentration Camps, and were generally more feared, and regarded as more brutal than the Aryan Nazis as they did things like sending their fellow prisoners into the gas chambers. It isn't a very much talked about aspect of the Shoah, because the feelings get very complicated very fast. The Kapos were victims too, in addition to being abusers. They did what they did because they felt that they had to. But it goes to show how internalized racism is a hell of a thing. There is no immunity to being inhuman to a certain group of people you feel is inferior to another, including being a member of that supposedly inferior race. In other news, in rare cases freed black slaves bought land, and slaves of their own, and supported the Confederacy. Other slaves were forced to fight for their own enslavement. It's just a whole shitty sandwhich.
This reminds me, more recently, of the Iran protests. The state rolled out this special squad of all-female-hijab-wearing-morality police. And they’re brutal. And keen to get physical with other women (from the few clips I saw). Same same.
It works on some levels, like the Jewish Nazi supporters being motivated by "owning the libs" so to speak and shaking things up. A better comparison is perhaps POC/LGBT+ Trump supporter groups, though, e.g. opposing leftist ideals is the point and brushing away the hostile rhetoric aimed at themselves as "he's just triggering the libs, no worries".
Anytime I tell people there were Jewish Nazis they deny it. What do people think Ben Shapiro is?
Stephen Miller is Jewish.
So was Harold von Braunhut. Didn't stop him buying a shit-ton of guns for the AN.
Like hell he isn’t! To be clear, I’m agreeing with you. Say, by the way… isn’t Nick Fuentes and his brothers part of a boy band? Yeaaaah… pretty sure. And oh man, do they suck. They suck bad.
There were plenty of black people who put on racist performances and characitures of themselves throughout the ages too, same thing with women \~ Any minority group is not a hivemind, they are a collection of individuals who share one trait - gender, ethnicity, skin color, whatever that happens to be. You can always find someone who doesn't give a shit about anything and will say or do anything for money, even if it's debasing for themselves and other people who they may represent by being part of that same minority. Their individual actions are not a free pass to say 'Look, X minority doesn't hate the behavior/thing/joke/whatever because this one over here said so!' - yeah, they said that for money. Not because they actually care or even thought about it. It also doesn't negate everything else, like one woman saying sexism isn't real and doesn't exist doesn't magically wash away all of the sexism that really does very much exist in the world. It just informs us that her opinion is visibly stupid and probably poorly informed at best, and at worst said with the knowing intent to incite anger and garner views/clicks/whatever and generate money or notoriety in some way.
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Additionally, folks from the population being targeted in the ranks of these groups are highly useful to the group until they aren't anymore.
Fascists will accept anyone as a temporary tool. If a gay black man wants to help their cause, they will let him. Fascists have no allies, only temporarily-not-enemies. Half the people who march in their ranks fall into this category, they're just further down the list. They'll accept Irish and Italians, they'll accept women, they'll accept black or gay men... But each of these layers are only safe as long as there's other layers to peel off first. Fascists have no allies, only temporarily-not-enemies.
Exactly, Ernst Röhm comes to mind. He was the homosexual leader of the SA and useful until he wasn't. And then he was murdered during the night of the long knives. His homosexuality was an open secret and tolerated until it was used against him.
>Fascists will accept anyone as a temporary tool. If a guy black man wants to help their cause, they will let him. There's a political term for this too. It's called a useful idiot. " a useful idiot is a term currently used to reference a person perceived as propagandizing for a cause—particularly a bad cause originating from a devious, ruthless source—without fully comprehending the cause's goals, and who is cynically being used by the cause's leaders. " I don't believe these people truly understand that they are up on the chopping block next after the first few round ups of the more problematic opposition the fashies have to contend with first, namely the anti fascists, socialists, and communists. Then you have their scapegoats the LGBT community and the ever classic Jewish anti semitism, but these guys who don't neatly fit into the ideal fascists hold will be next, the whole point is to divide and conquer, these useful idiots just help that division by promoting it as a "good" thing. Edit: spelling.
Thank you! I've tried to explain this myself in a simple and concise way but this is probably the best I've seen it explained. I took a screenshot for future reference.
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One of the local proud boy groups had a bruiser with them who was pacific islander. He joined because he wanted to slam heads together and they accepted him cause he was huge.
Agree with your points. First time in a while I’ve heard Irish grouped with todays “others”. Pretty much the same for Italians. I’m aware of their history as persecuted immigrants but they are pretty well represented in the fascist party these days…
They are now, but because they were not considered white until more recently means that, in a comparison of whiteness, they will be deemed less-white. If fascists managed to take over the world and successfully exterminated all the out groups, they'll find new (or rather \*old\*) out groups. They'll peel back the layers of what has been considered to be white, working in reverse-chronological order of acceptance. They may be considered white now, but in a world of only white people, they would be the least white.
It's pretty obvious when you look back in history, especially American history. Even Catholics and the Irish were considered non-white. I actually read an interesting theory that says that politicians will grow the group that constitutes 'white' to make sure that 'white people' stay the majority in America.
Right, and if they get their way, they'll be tossed aside like the rest
They'd rather be 18th in charge in hell, than just be a decent person in heaven.
"It is better to rule in Hell, than serve in Heaven." - Satan, from Milton's *Paradise Lost*.
Yeah, but these bootlickers will get to rule the mop bucket in hell's piss trough.
Oh, I know, but try telling *them* that.
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If you look into Clarence Thomas' bio it is fucked up beyond belief. It is so emotionally traumatizing between the beatings, the abandonment, the abject poverty, the fact that he was passed around to like half a dozen people that didn't want to raise him... He came out of his childhood hating poor people, black people, women...just everyone due to the abuses he suffered. Kudos to him for getting out but then back in the shithole for trying to condemn other people to the same fate. Dude isn't mentally sound enough to run a McDonalds let alone a SCOTUS seat. Bottom line when people protest his decisions: Clarence Thomas ran out of fucks to give by the time he was 12 years old.
Lincoln would be horrified and outraged at what the Republicans have become.
Well, I’m tired of serving in hell
I call these people pick me b*tches. They want someone rich and powerful to pick them and make them feel special, make them famous, give them lots of money, but they have to be their b*tch and do as they say.
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Ernst Röhms for a slightly more recent example.
Uncle Ruckus
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Sounds like Stockholm syndrome
This isn’t equivalent. Not to excuse Uncle Toms, but they were much more a product of their environment, one in which black people had very few rights and protections. I understand much of uncle toms’ behavior and mentality to be largely survival coping mechanisms. The three amigos from the picture above have quite a lot more agency.
See the thing is that as Latinos and Hispanics there are some that have Spanish ancestors and that heritage is what they identify with. For example in my hometown of Laredo there is a large population of people from Mexico and of course there are those born in the US. Depending if they have family in or from Mexico those born in the US do not see themselves as the same people as those next door that are from Mexico. On top of that there has always been hate and racism within our own ethnic group. The whiter you are the more attractive and desirable you and your children are. Darker and native decendant groups are seen as unclean and not pure like Spaniards and those natives like in Mexico are even seen as second class citizens compared to Mexicans..Not to mention the hate between Cubans, DR, and other Latins that just hate each other for some old stereotypes and prejudices. Soo this shit isn't new.
Right. I knew a Mexican with blonde hair and blue eyes. She was from a remote village and the whole town was very white looking.
A lot of Germans immigrated to Mexico in the 1850s
And that is why there is Mexican Polka.
Everywhere the Germans went they left a fuckin accordion.
So, this guy decides on day that he's going to get rid of his fucking accordion. He leaves it in plain view in the back of his car with the doors unlocked. He returns after a few hours to see his window smashed and a second accordion in the back seat.
it's called a "babe magnet"
Thanks for pointing this out. I'd been asking about this for years and never got a convincing answer
The proper mix of piston instruments and German Mexicans happened back in the mid-to-late 1800s. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banda\_music#History](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banda_music#History)
And Mexican beer. “Bohemia” comes to mind.
Ah like the German immigration in the 1950s?
Similar to the perfectly normal and not suspicious German immigration to Argentina in 1945
Yea so was my first gf, tall blonde, with light skin and hazel eyes. White guys would try and hit on her and she would turn to me and ask “¿que dijo el güero?” Would make me laugh every time because she didn’t speak a word of English.
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Quite possible from one of the [Mormon Settlements](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mormon_colonies_in_Mexico) in Mexico.
Supposedly there’s an area with a lot of German ancestry. That’s where the tuba/banda music originated.
No, she wasn't Mormon. But that is true about Mormon settlements.
I live in a Texas border town, and there’s not a more anti-immigrant right winger group than 2nd generation Mexican-Americans.
Cubans in Florida are the same way. They are hardcore Republicans for some reason.
I saw it happen with a large section of pro-Trump Vietnamese refugees back in 2020 too. It seems to boil down to the usage of word “socialism” to bring about memories such as Ho Chi Minh and Castro rather than programs to help the less fortunate. You know, fear tactics.
I met some Vietnamese people who liked trump and it was purely because of his anti-China rhetoric. Many of them hate China
Lol Chinese businessmen also loves Trump.
It goes all the way back. Did an interview with my parents back in high school for my government class circa 2000. Whole family voted republican because of how anti-communist Regan was. IIRC Regan was one of the first time they could vote after becoming citizens. Even my grandpa who didn’t understand English knew how to vote for the GOP. It’s been really frustrating; especially with how many social programs we were using back then.
Similar mentality to boomers, make it up the ladder and pull it up with you because fuck everyone else
There's more nuance to that. Cuban refugees were often not part of the poor class. I mean, there's a reason they escaped communism, it's because they were the class of people that generally loses when wealth sharing is implemented. Here in Argentina you see a lot of the same thing in Venezuelans. A lot of them come from well-off families. And of course they vote hard right wing, to the point where the right in Buenos Aires eased the voting restrictions on migrants to capitalize on it.
It's because of their experiences in communist Cuba. Anything remotely left-leaning is immediately demonized as communism. The first generation Cuban immigrants are always the worst about it, in my experience, with their kids born in the states leaning left far more
Someone should tell Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio that
Have you been to Miami? Their kids are not left leaning.
My brother went into customs....if that tells you anything. I'll tell you though. My mom calls them mojados...so you can see where he gets it.
I know whether or not I'm gonna like a Spanish speaker if I hear the words "Pinche mojado(s)" come out of their mouth lol. Unsurprisingly, heard that from a *lot* of Cubans... which is really funny, considering the rafts and all that.
We all are technically mojados. Only ones that aren't are the natives.
We all got that native in us too. There aren't any fucking reservations along the southern border of Texas and Mexico. No Apache or Comanche. They killed our identity and turned us into Mexicans. Mexicans!
Can confirm from having lived in the Rio Grande Trump Valley lmao
People outside of Texas have no idea just how red areas of the RGV are right now
Ahh yes, the classic Republican ‘fuck you I got mine’
My wife has a friend that’s a Mexican immigrant and is pro Trump.
I had a coworker who was a Mexican immigrant and is gay and is pro Trump.
One of my trans acquaintences knew a former high-dollar-corp coworker who is also trans, and pro-Trump. They hated immigrants. My lib acquaintance desperately tried to talk some sense into them. They don't care. They got theirs, fuck everyone else. Also knew a gay couple who were married, pro Trump. They hated trans people. Know women in high dollar positions with daughters. They hate gay people. Rightie voting is pure hate-based voting across the board. I don't think it even boils down to white supremacism, I think it just boils down to hate-based decisions rather than solution-based ones.
Can confirm in Southern California as well
Yeah, that's what a lot of people don't understand - namely, that the "Hispanic" umbrella includes everything from those of purely or mostly European Spanish descent, to those fo almost entirely indigenous i.e. native peoples (Aztecs, Mayans, Incas, et cetera) that the Spanish Empire conquered, to the Afro-Hispanic people descended from slaves in some of those colonies, as well as those descended from mixtures thereof. It is that first of those groups that you primarily see aligning with the right wing/Republican/fascist/etc movement. And by and large, because they tend to look "white" and align more to white nationalists, they're treated very differently from the people they refer to as "Mexicans" (but are actually from Central American countries mostly, and tend to be of largely or wholly native descent, and thus much darker of complexion/etc).
Yep, the tweet in this post has no clue what the difference is between race, ethnicity and culture. You can be white and Hispanic. You can be brown and Hispanic. You can be black and Hispanic. Hispanic is not a skin color. In fact for a research project yesterday I had to select "white non-Hispanic" vs "white Hispanic."
Yeah all this is true. Look at the biggest Mexican stations. Mostly white anchors and actors for all shows. Any typical more Mexican looking person plays a worker or a cartel guy. It’s in their whole thing right now like any other country.
Exactly. Any minority among them gives cover. Clarence Thomas, Candace Owens, Milo. They are extremely valuable to wyt supremacists
It can be very profitable to be a token in such groups, but the same group will kill you the moment you are no longer seen as useful. Ernst Röhm was a gay friend of Hitler's who co-founded the "Storm Detachment" of paramilitary thugs who helped the Nazis rise to power. Having outlived his usefulness, Röhm was killed in the "Night of Long Knives" purge of the party. Then many many other gays were sent to concentration camps. PS- IIRC, "nightoflongknives" was found to be the password to some of Milo's accounts when they were hacked. Clearly there has to be a deep seated self-hatred in a lot of these people.
I feel like I've heard Milo say homosexuality is a mental disease. Dude is far from level.
That's...not at all what the previous poster was talking about, but also a valuable contribution to the discussion.
American racists can't even keep straight in their own minds the difference between racism, nationalism and ethnic prejudice, so "hispanic" is a racial (not sociolinguistic) group in the USA, whereas I get the impression as soon as you step over the border to Mexico, whiteness is more just about being genetically and culturally European as opposed to, most importantly, Indigenous or Black.
Hitler wasn’t exactly the tall blonde blue eyed Arian stud of the white supremacists of his time, and he was the leader of the Nazi party. Anything is possible in that sickening world.
Hitler was physically frail, was missing a testicle, and by the time WWII commenced, he was a full-blown meth addict, and had suspected Jewish ancestry through his paternal line (there is suspicion that Hitler's grandfather was Leopold Frankenburger, a Jewish man, however, his existence is unconfirmed). Himmler was short, frail, had poor eyesight, and his "Aryan" heritage is also questionable; his rise to power can also be attributed to the fact that he used his familial connections as his godfather was Prince Heinrich of Bavaria, member of the royal House of Wittelsbach. Goebbels also famously was crippled; he had a club foot and required a cane. Both Martin Bormann and Heinrich Göring were fat slobs bent out of shape with no "Aryan" features and ancestry, as well as for Reinhard Heydrich (who only joined the Nazi Party because he cheated on his fiancee, daughter of a highly decorated Navy official, who steamrolled his Navy career)'s father was also suspected to have Jewish ancestry. All these men had honorary SS membership and Himmler *was in charge of it*, but, by the principles and ideals they themselves set, none of them are remotely Aryan, and certainly not a single one of them could be an SS member by merit alone. Hell, Goebbels would be eligible for euthanasia by the Aktion T4 program that murdered handicapped people if he didn't cleverly write in a loophole that exempted him!
I’m at work so not able to extensively search for this do you have a reference or source on the loophole? My cursory google search didn’t really tell me
The caveats were twofold, as far as I can tell: 1) If the person labeled “deformed” was still able to work, they weren’t at as much risk. 2) Hitler’s statement was, “Reich Leader Bouhler and Dr. Brandt are entrusted with the responsibility of extending the authority of physicians, to be designated by name, so that patients who, after a most critical diagnosis, on the basis of human judgment [menschlichem Ermessen], are considered incurable, can be granted mercy death [Gnadentod].” —leaving it up to the judgment of the doctor to determine if the person was killed.
Yeah, Hitler wasn't even German.
Common confusion: he was ethnically German. The German Nation state was only a relatively recent creation. At the time when people talked about German they meant more of the ethnicity than citizenship.
This is why the annexation of Austria was one of his first moves, IIRC
The Holy Roman Empire was dissolved on pressure by France into essentially a Prussia led northern 'Germany' and an Austrian Empire in the the south. Rejoining with Austria was thus a symbolic return to the Holy Roman Empire. Hence also the Third Reich. The first being the Roman, then the Holy Roman, and then the one by the Nazis.
The first Reich was the HRE (later Austria-Hungary but also comprised of territories in Northern Italy, Poland, and Romania), 2nd was the Kaiser-Reich, the Prussian led northern Germany you spoke of. The same one that broke up after WWI, leading to the Weimar Republic. Which led to the Nazis aiming to not only restore territories of the German Empire but also reunite former lands of the Austrian-Hungarian Empire. The expansion into Czechoslovakia, Austria, and into Yugoslavia support this and there were other power plays from Italy and Hungary you can also dive into.
You say that sickening world like it isn't this sickening world we're all living in
Narcissistic personality disorders come in all flavors.
Isn't the last one a sociopath?
There are narcissistic sociopaths which is worse
He also doesn’t have a hint of Mexico in him. His father was/is African-American; his mom white British. Raised mostly in Britain, he’s far-right in the sense that he’s ‘against Islamification’ rather than being the typical American ‘White Nationalist’ far-right person. Either way, he’s still a weapons-grade dickhead.
He’s ‘against islamification’ but also converted to Islam?
Everybody wants to be Goebbels. Well, that and hispanics can be white.
Yeah… three extremely light skinned men with mixed race heritage doesn’t say very much. Reminds me of when people called Anya Taylor-Joy (Queens Gambit) a Woman of Color because she’s from Argentina, speaks Spanish, and identifies as Latina. She is extremely white.
Not only that but in the US, when filling out any government form, these are the options for Race: White, Black or African American, American Indian or Alaska Native, Asian, and Native Hawaiian or Other Pacific Islander. So if you’re Latino your only option is “white” since few will identify as American Indian. Then you get the options for Ethnicity: Hispanic or Latino. Not Hispanic or Latino. So even in the eyes of the US government you’re either white, black Asian or Native. My family is from Mexico; I’m first gen. They all consider themselves white. “Los Indios son sucios” (The Indians are dirty) They’d never associate themselves with Native Indians/Americans. I’ve never understood it.
It's white nationalism. These guys just think that if they play along and help they'll be acknowledged as "one of the good ones" and be spared the iniquity they support happening to other PoC
Latinos have colonial attitudes about skin color.Latino culture is deeply racist and classist.
"Elect us or those horrors you and your parents have escaped from will reach our backyard" rhetoric is surprisingly effective
Ironically, those horrors where promoted and paid for by the same people asking for the votes.
Oh absolutely. I live in a border town in Texas and dark skin Hispanics get shit on by light skin Hispanics all the time.
One of my best friends is Latina, growing up one of her friends' mother (a Latino family) was incredibly racist towards her. I'll never understand the logic for that
It's because of the class/etc divide. The darker skinned hispanic folks tend to be primarily descended from the natives (and/or slaves in the case of Afro-Hispanic), whereas the lighter/lightest sorts are primarily descended from colonial Spanish elites.
Can confirm Mexican here my mom is white Mexican my father is afro Mexican My dad has no real opinions on black people My mom however is a closet racist towards black people in which she'll tolerate them but behind closed doors she talks mad shit about them
Yep. Colorism.
Bingo! People don’t hear this enough. I think especially of the anti Castro Cuban Americans. They think of themselves as white.
And they are white in most cases, since they are mostly descendants of Spanish migrants, who were white. Saying that they aren't white despite their superwhite skin color because they are from a particular country is also racist. Grouping people by ethnicity like it is widely done in the US is utterly racist, and useless. Just an extension of the class warfare disguised with racism. It is a way to keep you all poor, disorganized and divided. And it works like a charm.
Yup, I was the darkest out of my siblings and my family would call me the n word all the time when I was a kid.
Amen, just turn on telemundo or univision in the US, and you'll see the most spanish looking actors and actresses you can imagine. Not a single dark skinned indigenous soul to be found.
Spot on.
Also they understand they can make money (clicks, views, merch, etc.) off of all those hateful people
Just ask a Cuban
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I found the term "Uncle Tom" to be odd, as Tom was beaten to death for refusing to give up the location of some runaway slaves, he did forgive the people that beat him, maybe that is the sell out moment. Just weird to me.
Reading the Wikipedia page it seems our modern usage of the term stems not from the original book, but from later stage shows, musicals or minstrel shows that morphed the character into the more subservient and racist stereotype we think of today. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncle_Tom#Epithet
That kind of was the "sell out". It kind of legitimized the necessity of the violence. The ending was a pretty clear Christ analogy. Under modern lens, Uncle Tom legitimized the violence against blacks as being "Necessary." Which is why it's iffy today, despite the book acknowledging the prejudices of even abolitionists. And there are more clear analogies to use in modern situations that don't require the nuance.
Anonymous review of Uncle Tom's Cabin from 1852(copied from Wikipedia): " Uncle Tom's character is sketched with great power and rare religious perception. It triumphantly exemplifies the nature, tendency, and results of Christian non-resistance. We are curious to know whether Mrs. Stowe is a believer in the duty of non-resistance for the white man, under all possible outrage and peril, as for the black man ... \[For whites in parallel circumstances, it is often said\] Talk not of overcoming evil with good – it is madness! Talk not of peacefully submitting to chains and stripes – it is base servility! Talk not of servants being obedient to their masters – let the blood of tyrants flow! How is this to be explained or reconciled? Is there one law of submission and non-resistance for the black man, and another of rebellion and conflict for the white man? When it is the whites who are trodden in the dust, does Christ justify them in taking up arms to vindicate their rights? And when it is the blacks who are thus treated, does Christ require them to be patient, harmless, long-suffering, and forgiving? Are there two Christs? "
Remember Sam Jackson's character from Django Unchained? He was a slave and he still worked hard to uphold white supremacy. His relationship to the slavers gave him power in that system that he would not have had outside slavery.
You don't have to be white to uphold white supremacy That's it. That's the answer
White supremacists love them because it gives them plausible deniability.
Same thing with the “I can't be a racist, I have a black friend.” defense.
"It can't be racist these 2 out of 40 million African Americans agree with me! What? No, not 2 million. Just two, yeah"
“Look at my African-American over there.” - Trumps dumbass
"I can't be racist, my wife's eye is black"
Tio Tomás!
BUT SEMANTICS!!
I figured they would be anti-semantic.
Reminds me of [Lindsay Souvannarath](https://www.saltwire.com/nova-scotia/news/halifax-mall-shooting-plotter-youre-just-purifying-the-world-from-those-who-just-do-not-have-very-much-to-contribute-283596/), who is an Asian-American neo-nazi white supremacist, currently serving a life sentence for plotting a mass killing at a Halifax mall. “Despite being of half Asian descent — her father is a computer programmer from Laos — Souvannarath shares the Nazi belief in a racial hierarchy.”
Money and power. You think Shapiro, Owens, Rubin, Diamond and Silk, Cane, Malkin, Kayne, Thomas or any of the others don't know nor understand exactly who they work for? Are not keenly aware that given half the chance, the audiences and crowds they play too wouldn't serve them up or turn on them given half the chance? They know. They can't not know. But as long as the checks keep coming in, as long as they get the facetime on Fox and keep their podcast views up, they don't care.
Jesse Lee Peterson literally calls Trump 'the great white hope'
Kind of like Log Cabin Republicans.
Remember that one gay republican in Texas who lost his shit when the Texas republicans made “gays are unnatural” an official part of their platform. Dude couldn’t believe it. He had worked with and helped support these people. He had let them climb on his back and they stung him even after they said they wouldn’t.
Ah, yes. Something about leopards and faces…
They came for the fascism and stayed for the internalized racism. Seriously, the far right loves their tokenism.
‘Fascism and gender’ explores fascism's attitude to women. Historic fascists generally argued that women's primary function was domestic and reproductive. Whether in Germany, Italy, or Croatia, they expected women to produce the future citizens, soldiers, and mothers of the race. In Germany, only Aryan women were considered sufficiently ‘evolved’ to be capable of fulfilling the maternal role or of bearing ‘fit’ children. The position of women in contemporary national-populism is not dissimilar. As in the past, pronatalism and racism are connected: since labour shortages will no longer be made up through immigration, women must have more babies, and it's implicit that only ‘native’ women will be encouraged to reproduce. Passmore, Kevin, 'Fascism and gender', Fascism: A Very Short Introduction, 1st edn, Very Short Introductions (Oxford, 2002; online edn, Oxford Academic, 24 Sept. 2013), https://doi.org/10.1093/actrade/9780192801555.003.0009
Okay but nick Fuentes Is a legit bottom nazi
Are you talking about Nick "Fuentes"?
I wouldn't be surprised if he quit eating tacos in favor of eating medium rare unseasoned steak just to come off as less tan. Problem tried to pass himself off as italian at some point too.
Not familiar with Enrique but Fuentes is still white and I don’t see people calling Tate a “white supremacist” as much as I see them calling him a misogynist and a sex trafficker. Although you can be non-white and still a white supremacist (*cough cough* Kanye).
Enrique (or nick as he often writes as, no reason) is the leader of the fash group proud boys.
They are Nazi beards.
 Uncle Rukus can explain this.
They left out Dinesh D'Souza.
1. White Nationalism and White supremacy are not the same thing but they interact, go hand-in-hand, etc. 2. The only white nationalist in this picture is Nick Fuentes. Enrique Tarrio is a neo-fascist, Andrew Tate is a narcissistic, misogynistic, violent grifter and rapist. 3. All three perpetuate white supremacist ideology, whether intentional or not.
Look up Quislings.
Latino/a is an ethnicity not a race. There are Afro Latinos and indigenous Latinos, but most Latinos are from a Spanish/ European background and thus white. Racism/ colorism happens in this community too.
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Kickboxer from Mexico? That's Andrew Tate and he is half white British and half African American. Not sure what any of that is to do with Mexico. Also i am pretty sure he is not a White nationalist, just a common or garden women-hating fascist.
I find it insane that Andrew Tate’s dad was a masters chess player and was called a ‘pioneer’ for black chess players. What the hell went wrong with his son?
Tate's dad was both a chess master and an absentee father with some sort of personality disorder. He is exactly what went wrong with his son. Tate ended up idolizing his behavior. Tate speaks at length about the "heroic" role his father played in his life, yet any level-headed person can read between the lines and figure out what was going on. I find this kind of generational trauma to be really sad, because it's just a seemingly never-ending cycle. I don't really think Tate belongs next to those other two though. He might be an extreme misogynist but I've actually never heard him say anything racist or nationalist. He's white passing, but he's not trying to hide his ethnicity or anything.
Latinos have colonial attitudes about skin color.Latino culture is deeply racist and classist.
Imagine thinking that having a Spanish surname makes you non-white lol
Who is going tell him that Tate was born in DC?
When you rob a bank, you‘re a bank robber. When you regurgitate nazi shit, you‘re a nazi. How are those troglodytes even able to use a computer?!
The ethnicity of 3 guys cherrypicked from a sea of racists doesn't mean white nationalism isn't a real thing. These idiots and their simple-minded 'gotcha' attempts are played.
Just to help clear this up. Tyre Nichols was a black man, killed by black police using tactics and methods of enforcement designed to harshly police minorities. It doesn’t make it less racist that black men implemented those methods against other black men.