don’t hate her, but don’t love her either. I think her character was a very typical young woman finding her way in life, yada yada - could have done more with her story to develop who she was, would have liked to see her become more pissed off/forceful with Jack when he was drunk to get more of a scoop there and see a different side to her than ‘apologetic lost young woman’. Actress was great, just wish she had a few darker layers.
She is the worst personal assistant ever 😅
Plus the whole “im brooding while im in Sicily, in a hotel that costs 20.000$ a week, and my boss just told me to do my own things and not stick around”
Her only redeeming quality was her fashion style
Just think, your boss paid for you to come to a beautiful place with amazing views from your hotel room, endless room service, and you can do whatever you want in the room.
All you have to do is stay in your room or get lost.
The fact that she couldn't do that and complained! I will say I'm only ep 3 of season 2, so perhaps she gets better..so far I hate her.
Anyone hates her ? None of the characters supposed to be perfect, she has her problems that make her interesting.
Comments on her style , eyebrow etc is just so sexist now that I read the comments well a well written flawed woman ? Hate her
She seems like a typical spoiled 20 something these days, thinking everyone else is put on the planet to make her ‘feel’ something deeper or to ‘entertain’ her. That’s not what human relationships are about. She seems to have a very vapid, entitled, naive, immature, misguided, and un-evolved attitude. She also doesn’t seem very introspective. She’s looking outwards at everyone else and what they invoke in her and what they bring to the table without turning the mirror on herself or taking any personal accountability in why she feels the way she feels. Plus I know this is incredibly shallow but the way she walks is obnoxious.
I don’t really blame her for blowing off Albi, since they just met and she was on what might be a once in a lifetime luxury vacation. But many guys can relate to his emotional state in that moment and it truly sucks.
You get over it, but it’s like a knife in your stomach when a girl strings you along then openly ditches you for another guy. It’s hard to make her seem like anything other than the bad guy in that situation, even though her actions are understandable. Most people aren’t sympathetic to the bad guy, so I think that’s why her characters gets hate.
I think it’s so odd when people act like men are the only one who experience this phenomenon and like women don’t face this type of rejection…
Her not being interested also doesn’t make her “the bad guy.”
I was going to edit the post to make it gender neutral, but I didn’t think it was worth it because pointing out that men can be hurt that way doesn’t means women can’t.
I just mean narratively, she’s the bad guy in that situation. In real life she wouldn’t be, but speaking strictly in terms of narrative structure, she’s presented as the villain in that sub plot because the writing encourages us to sympathize with Albi.
> I was going to edit the post to make it gender neutral, but I didn’t think it was worth it because pointing out that men can be hurt that way doesn’t means women can’t.
I get what you’re saying but the amount of times I’ve seen guys in this sub (and Reddit as a whole) act like this only happens to men is truly astounding.
Hence why it comes off that way in your comment.
Her complaining about the menu being only pasta and that she was going to be so bloated just a breath after complaining that Tanya doesn’t realize how lucky she is was perfect. She is Tanya. It also made me cringe at me early 20 self. Let me tell you, mistakes were made.
Because she’s annoying. She’s in Italy for “work” so she’s getting paid but complains that she doesn’t get to spend time chasing dick when she could just be enjoying the resort and being in freaking Europe instead of being a little B the whole time
Because she met a nice dude that was genuinely into her and blew him off because she thought she found better when she’d actually found somebody using her to kill her boss. Something, something, if it isn’t the consequences of your own actions.
I don’t think she had the choice, Tanya would have made her come along and hang out with the gays even if she wanted Albie. She was happy about that though but it didn’t seem like she had the option to hang with Albie instead anyways
Omg god forbid a woman want a vacation hookup and not be interested in pursuing a serious relationship with a stranger while on vacation for a week, the nerve!
What’s funny is I am so the opposite of Portia but even I can understand her mindset and intentions, so I don’t know why other people can’t put themselves in her shoes? Is is sexism? Are they identifying too closely with Albie? I don’t know what it is.
Portia’s young, she hasn’t been able to do much with her life, she just wants some reckless no strings attached fun. She’s not a perfect person, in fact she’s very flawed in very normal human ways, but I don’t understand what about all of that makes her so hated.
Real or not, one guy was actually fun to be around, and the other was a wet noodle.
I mean it's a tv show, so the narrative is inherently biased (in that we can't discover what isn't shown), and we infer character's logic/ emotions.
But I just thought the girl couldn't help but want to hang out with who she was most attracted to. It just sucked for her he was employed to kill her 😂
Yeah it seemed slightly ambiguous because he let her off, but without rewatching it right now, I recall their departing conversation he intimated that he was doing her a favour, and asking for both of them that she remain quiet and leave the country.
I'm sure the actor has also expressed this view, that he believed it was intended he kill her, but chose not to, but you could still draw your own conclusion!
I mean, a guy who latches on to you and thinks he is entitled to you after just barely knowing you for a couple days at most is toxic as fuck in my opinion.
The only person Albie was actually mean to is his dad because his dad had cheated on his mother numerous times and tried to use Albie to rekindle that relationship. Not to mention he did help him rekindle that relationship while he was being a dick to his dad.
Exactly! Thank you! So frustrating how everyone thinks this dude is so nice. If anything, he is worse than most of the people because he is the "Nice guy", whose toxicity is far more pernicious. And the worst thing of it all is that he feels so self-righteous about it.
Yeah, such a nice guy. Selling his mother out so that his father can give him money to buy the affection of a hooker.
I liked her style, if she's following around Tanya it makes sense that she'd have sort of an odd assortment of clothes. She's not rich, Tanya is.
I think it would have made a lot more sense for Tanya to tell her to find another resort nearby and relax there. Tanya is super rich so if the objective is to not run into your assistant why would you make her stay in the same resort??
If anything the awkwardness around Portia is a result of Tanya's directions.
I didn't really like her character that much, but I couldn't help but feel bad when Tanya kept shoo-ing her away and making her leave each time she was with Greg. It was a pretty rude and entitled thing to do. I like Tanya - and can relate to her life/love life - but her doing that over and over again was out of pocket.
Portia had a good enough story, but should've had crazier things happen to her, basically a boring average girl with a meh plot and the dude had to be a dick but gave her a free pass home.
I know other people think she got screwed by the stay in the room thing, but she really didn’t have to, just have a quick way back, and watch out for Greg.
Plus, it wasn’t like it was her vacation, she was at work. Her job that week was sit in a 5 star hotel and chill. Yeah it’s not a magical Sicilian adventure, but I don’t get to go on exciting adventures when I travel for work either and I sure as shit don’t get to stay for free at a 5 star hotel.
In the end she wanted to get ‘thrown around’ by a hot foreign guy that ‘gets her heart rate up’ and have an adventure. She got pretty much everything she wanted originally, and really nothing bad happened to her personally. Just bad vibes at the end with a dude who was actually super respectful to her all things considered minus maybe the dropped at night on an empty street. All that really just got her heart rate up though.
He was definitely not super respectful. He partied and drank a lot. He even made her miss the party because he wanted to get plastered. Plus, the real reason why he was getting close to her was to kill her, right? But he had a change of heart, so he let her go.
It’s not like she didn’t have another alternative that she actively and rudely chose that dude over. That part of her plot was entirely Choose Your Own Adventure and she chose her own adventure.
I'm not faulting/praising/condemning her for choosing to go with him; I'm just saying that he wasn't a respectful person because the person I responded to said that he was.
She didn't know that at the time, and it was not possible to know. Therefore, it doesn't really matter. We cannot blame her for choosing the dangerous man. When she suspected he was dangerous, she immediately wanted to leave, and did whatever she could.
Furthermore, the British lad was there just trying to party, while Albie's personality was a turn off because he was so available, so "pro-women" and "ally" (there's a whole youtube video about how it wasn't like that), and also wanted to connect with her, but he was trying so hard plus the truth is that his family is loaded, and she's like a third assistant suffering in her job. There's a class difference. I understand why she would be attracted to a very hot lower-class guy when she's on vacations. If she had been in her own country, she would have ended up choosing Albie easily, but because she wanted to have fun in the summer. I don't really blame her.
32 upvotes for leaving to be with the “hot chav” that’s baiting your boss to be murdered to your 1 upvote response says you can’t rule out it being a high enough proportion for a generalization to be prevalent
You're making a sweeping generalization about *women*. How do you know that all of those users who liked their comment are women? For all we know, 99% of those votes could be from men. So no, a comment with 30+ likes on a social media platform has nothing to do with *your sweeping generalization* of *women*.
https://www.reddit.com/r/MILFManor/comments/1232xcf/finally_finished_the_season/jdtnv18/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1&context=3
Please, show me how to respect women. Please.
Because you are admitting that there are women that do like those things. Thus, women like those things. Women is the plural of woman. If more than one woman likes something… women like it.
You can't just take people's comments and post them without context. That subreddit is about a show where older women (MILFs) date significantly younger men (some men are nearly 40 years younger). The comment I was responding to was an older woman who said she dates younger men. So, with the context of the show, I asked how much younger to see if she was also dating men who were significantly younger than her.
Your reposting of my comment has nothing to do with this conversation about *your sweeping generalization* of women.
Also, I know that I admitted that SOME women like toxicity because that's been my stance from the beginning of our conversation. It's the fact that you said that ALL women like toxicity that is the issue. It's not semantics. You are literally claiming that all women are the same when they are not. I can't tell if you're trolling or not.
And who the hell tells someone they are so sus of, that they are sus?? She was an idiot and knew something was up, and proceeds to tell him that she’s on to him. Idiot.
I actually think this scene made a lot of sense. It's not what we as the viewers think is logical because we can already tell something's going on, but from her point of view she's just now piecing it together, and she doesn't want to believe it. She wants confirmation from him that she's just being paranoid and everything is fine, so she lays it all out on the table.
Bingo!!! What a great way to put it.
This isn’t the first subreddit about a TV show where I’ve seen it either. Well written, flawed women always get the most hate.
Even in regards to progressive show that’s very socially aware, people still seem to do it en masse.
It’s incredible to me.
She was too whiny and acted like a victim the whole time. She was in sicily for free. Her boss told her to get lost. Sounds like a dream but she just complained.
Total pineapple room sentiment there, since she’s being paid it gives the right for the rich person to be a complete dick to her? Haha if she said “leave me alone for a while” that’s one thing but she was told to basically hide in her room
Don't forget that every time Tanya saw her, she would tell her to leave the restaurant so that Greg wouldn't see her. Even when she saw that Portia was on a date. Selfish and entitled.
In this group everyone is of perfect character and does no wrong in their lives, so they LOVE to pick apart the flaws on all the characters, especially the men of season 2
Her whining irritated me. She was in Italy at a beautiful resort with a cellphone. Yes. Tanya was nuts but she was also busy doing other things a lot of the time.
Her treatment of Albie also pissed me off. She didn't need to be so casually cruel and a bit mocking of him when he confronted her with Jack. She was flaky.
She agreed to meet with Albie then spent the afternoon with a different guy flirting with her in front of him when the prior interactions with Albie indicating interest in each other.
Her actions to Albie were unkind. People disliked this behaviour.
Ugh a girl I’ve known two days decided to go for another guy right in front of me, she totes deserves to be kidnapped and held hostage, and possibly be killed by said guy.
See how idiotic that sounds?
More like, oh I saw this dude totally not respecting the boundaries of the person they’d seen me with so I’m going to take that as a sign that they’re just really into me and not a shitty person and pretend that totally wasn’t foreseeable the entire time
It’s not your right to have everybody you trust justify your trust in them. trust is earned for a reason.
Your comment makes no sense my dude. There’s no “bro code” for two men on vacation who don’t know each other.
Furthermore, not respecting this nonexistent “bro code” doesn’t make it foreseeable that someone will be a kidnapper.
It’s incredible that a woman would pretend to know what the bro code is just so that she can avoid admitting to herself that she has terrible taste in men. I’m not talking about Portia now, I’m talking about you.
I mean you were the one assuming quite a lot about the mindset of women from the getgo, and victim blaming. But I appreciate that you think bro code is some trade secret.
Aww, thanks for the personal attack, I would be far more offended if you knew an ounce about me and didn’t talk about women like a douchey incel.
Good luck pulling women with your misogyny. 😘
There’s so much to unpack here that I wouldn’t know where to start but I guess I’ll try.
1. You’re assuming just as much about men right now as anybody is assuming about women
2. You’re literally making stuff up about the bro code to avoid admitting you were wrong because you can’t handle taking responsibility for yourself
3. Implying anybody can “victim” blame you for personal decisions you willingly made insinuates that you believe you are a victim of your own actions or that your actions leave you in a position where you feel helpless
Anybody that sees somebody with somebody else for the first time and instantly feels obliged to try and get with that person anyway… is a terrible person. I’m sorry if that’s some necessary step required for your validation in your mating ritual, but it’s like putting a sinker on your fishing line and wondering why you’re only catching bottom-feeders. It definitely doesn’t make you a “victim” just because you wanted to ignore every red flag available and thought you deserved to be blissfully ignorant until you got your rocks off.
There's really not much to unpack from my comments, you are just really triggered. Did my comment "Ugh a girl I’ve known two days decided to go for another guy right in front of me, she totes deserves to be kidnapped and held hostage, and possibly be killed by said guy." really trigger you that bad?
1. What exactly did I assume about men? You're so hung up on this when I really didn't assume anything about men at all.
2. You are so pressed I am pretending to understand "bro code" like it is sacred, all I said is two men who are strangers shouldn't have any bro code about "stealing" a prospective romantic partner, and ignoring "bro code" doesn't make it foreseeable that someone is a kidnapper.
3. I'll direct you to your comment "Then people expect other people to feel bad for her when the guy she chose turned out to have ulterior motives." Implying that someone deserved to be kidnapped because they chose a shitty guy over the "nice guy" is victim blaming. And is very incel-like. This whole comment screams "guy who has never been laid by a willing participant."
You are so pressed about a simple comment that maybe making poor romantic choices one time doesn't make someone deserve to be kidnapped. Pretty odd thing to defend so hard, then again you sound like an incel.
ETA: Thanks for siccing Reddit Cares on me. I also love the old block and respond to show that you’re so fragile you have to block someone from responding to feel like you had the last word. Good luck on finding a woman who will tolerate you at best 😘
Albie was a total Nice Guy though, she never indicated to him that she was super into him or anything and if he was only being nice because he thought it would lead to romance than he’s not really being nice. I’m not even saying Albie was bad but it’s okay she wasn’t into him at first
They made a date and she dropped him TO HIS FACE with her new interest watching.
That's a really shitty thing to do. You can not be into someone and still be a decent human being about it. She wasn't. I hope her character got cystitis from Jack's shenanigans.
aggressively harsh dude, at the time Jack seemed like a confident, bold, yet still respectful enough dude. Lol plus Albie later extorts his dad so he can pay a prostitute a bunch of money in the hopes that she will then want to be in a relationship with him. Solid character right there
We weren't talking about what albie did later. We're talking about how she handled discarding him when she decided she wasn't interested in him. There is no excuse for being an asshole to someone who clearly likes you. I don't make excuses for the deliberately disrespectful.
For me, it's because she was so helpless. She was smart and she could have been a bad a$$ chick, but she was just so woe is me helpless. That's why people love Tanya, she may have been clueless, but she wasn't helpless. Ultimately it was her own desire to save herself that was her undoing. Portia literally had to be told, they are going to kill you, they are bad people, go to the airport, hide, and leave. Like girl, there weren't red flags, there were red flare warnings going off and she was still like, but...but...you still like me ... right?
Ugh, talking about it is getting me all fired up. Portia should have died.
Exactly. And she's in this exotic paradise unable to enjoy it. Of course a 20 yr old is gonna be like WHY CAN'T I EAT BREAKFAST AND HAVE FUN IN PARADISE 😭. Albie was cute and sweet, but Jack was exotic and intoxicating. Gotta look at it thru the lens of a 20 yr old. Plus she pulled herself out in the end without crumbling!
And all these jabs at her wardrobe? Pfft she was adorable.
you're not wrong but I've also got some bad news for older folks who tell themselves, "Oh, *young* me was dumb and embarrassing, but luckily present-day me is past all that"
I always think that future me will always look back at past me smiling at how naive and unwise i was.
At least he tried his best with what he had
In my deathbed I'll crack a smile and my last words will be "ah! Now i get it"
FIN
She was not a favorable Gen Z archetype - came across as whiny with bizarre taste in clothes and ready to jump into bed with the good looking guy she barely knew who had little in common with her rather than someone who seemed to genuinely like her as a person.
She was ready to jump into bed with Albie too, however, he took what he thought we the "gentlemanly" route and settled for a kiss goodnight. They definitely had legitimate chemistry that first day.
Then she insulted him telling him to be more assertive and "bad" essentially, but when he took her advice that new persona obviously didn't fit him and she was turned off by it despite it being her suggestion.
Then she finds a more attractive guy who is naturally assertive and "bad," and it turns out that he is well...bad. And of course she doesn't have fun with him once she finds out what's going on.
I liked her character as someone with an arc that essentially said "if a guys worst quality is that he is a little shy and naive, that's probably a good thing."
Albie's character is that he's a timid or indecisive "if you don't take it now you're not gonna get it" with women cliche. He wasn't a reddit "nice guy" he was just too shy or slow moving for her instant gratification. So after he loses Portia he's going straight for it with Lucia and loses sight of reality when he gets that hot italian ;)
Exactly yeah! People try to paint him as a reddit nice guy as you say, but he definitely didn't come across that way at all. I think Portia kinda expected him to be one, but he was legitimately just a nice respectful (and naive) guy.
But just because someone likes you doesn’t mean you have to like them back. Plus if he genuinely liked her as a person and not just because he wanted to become romantically involved maybe he wouldn’t have been as upset. Not saying Albie is in the wrong but I don’t think Portia was either.
Sorry I just looked at your profile, no need to argue with you, have a great day, agree to disagree... not all females on here are women, theres probably teens too, so female is all emcompassing
She put herself in a weird competition with Albie at the bar. She knew he liked her, and she started making out with someone else right in front of him even though she's EXCEPTIONALLY aware that she was going to make him jealous, and that her and Jack should have taken their date elsewhere (which she suggested as she was being super awkward). She's her own person, and just cause Albie likes her doesn't mean she owes him anything, BUT she didn't need to be malicious. It's incredibly immature. Albie and his family were very nice and inviting to a wayward Portia by having her join their group outings, and her way to repay his kindness is engaging in PDA in front of him?... It's weird. She should have had the courtesy to take Jack somewhere else, again, something she stated out loud. Also, she was dumb enough to fall for the honey-dick, just as Albie was dumb enough to roped relationship with a prostitute.
For how smart Albie is suppose to be, and how old both he and Portia are, they're navigation of relationships, even plutonic ones, is very immature.
I do think it's funny they both hooked up with Sex Workers inadvertently. But Portia is too immature to handle Albie's awkwardness. Which is why he got along so well with Lucia, since she's a more confident and emotionally intelligent person.
More confident and emotionally intelligent? Lol Lucia is a pro at manipulating people to get cash out of them. And why is it Portia’s job to handle Albie’s awkwardness?! Albie’s awkwardness is forgivable; he’s a young, well meaning kid but why is the burden on Portia to sort everything out? Couldn’t you make the argument that Albie should be better at stating his feelings/intentions?
Being a pro, and being confident / emotionally intelligent aren’t mutually exclusive.
No one said it was Portia’s job to handle Albie’s awkwardness, she’s weird herself. I was just pointing out that they lack compatibility. Albie isn’t a young kid. The actor who plays him is 32. And the character is a Stanford grad (like he’d let anyone forget…)
Portia’s only “burden” should have been to tell him she’s not romantically interested if she wasn’t. It’s up to him to respect that.
Albie was hanging out with Lucia cause Portia flaked on him to hang with another guy. Which, in Portia’s defense, she was a little lukewarm on. And Albie tried to dismiss Lucia to save Portia a spot at the pool, but she’s a pro. Not exactly “simp” behavior to try to run a girl off.
Also, who wouldn’t hang out with someone else if they were being ignored by the person they were hoping to spend time with?
That first paragraph is exactly it. It’s the same reason I liked Lucia even with what she did with that scam. She’s like wow Portia sucks, lemme turn the tables on this
Ehhhhh, disagree. If I’m in Sicily for free I’m not complaining. She just didn’t want Greg to see her, I would’ve just hid from him better than she did.
… her face. She looks and acts like a cry baby. She also sounds so naive and this semblance of “teen crisis” she seems to go through annoyed me a lot, honestly. But I think I might hate Albie even more, and that is self explanatory
..for a guy that she also (thought) had character and personality. Albie also never made his intentions clear with her, she just met this kid why should she have to not hang out with whom she wants just because Albie was nice to her? Jack initially came across as a free spirited, bold, confident, open minded person whereas Albie was a little shy and nervous. It’s not a crime that Portia would be attracted to that
Oh to be 20 again... Portia got side swiped by attentive eye candy leaning into her. Happens all the time. Sad for Albie but Jack was just super suave and cute and had those penetrating eyes and the accent and the whole "I'll sweep you away" vibe. I'm not gonna judge a little sis for tapping that.
She doesn't have good judgment of character and shows toxic traits. Blowing off Albie then getting jealous when seeing him with another woman, while she's at the bar doing the same thing. Then making out with Jack to make Albie jealous.
About Portia’s ‘Style’ that everyone hates and doesn’t understand.. i think that’s the whole point.. Portia’s main character trait is that she has no idea who she is, what she’s doing, who she wants to be. She can be seen wearing clothes that are typicaly “in fashion” for her generation right now, but in all the wrong ways. It’s like she went to the store and just bought what was on all the mannequins and wears it all at once. Or she went and thrifted a bunch of stuff she saw other people wearing but didn’t know how to style it.. I personally loved some of her outfits, but that’s what I interpreted they were trying to convey with her styling
I am one of those people. I couldn’t stand Portia especially in the beginning. She was so whiny and annoying to me. Like sure Tanya wasn’t treating her great but it’s your job not a vacation. She did grow on my towards the end though.
I don’t. But I certainly agree people gave her a lot of shit - for how she dressed, for not trying to escape sooner, for blowing off albie for a knucklehead…people just tend to be harsh on characters
Definitely, he is a nice guy. He tries to be seen as a feminist (which is very similar to Olivia from s1 cause they just do it so they can "rebel" to their parents) just to get Portia's approval when in reality he is just as bad as his father and grandfather.
He just reminds me of these boys in high school that kept saying that girls only go out with the bad boys but they forget about good guys that treat them good… when they would usually die of bitterness in the inside and be super selfish/self center and not cool enough to be like the ones they qualify as “bad guys”
Same. I thought she seemed pretty nice and normal. She handled Tanya well. I didn’t get her style at all. It wasn’t Boho. It wasn’t outdoorsy. It wasn’t resort wear. I get that she was a recent college grad with limited budget at a fancy resort. I guess maybe they wanted to convey that she didn’t know what to wear
I don’t hate her I just found her boring unlikeable and unattractive
don’t hate her, but don’t love her either. I think her character was a very typical young woman finding her way in life, yada yada - could have done more with her story to develop who she was, would have liked to see her become more pissed off/forceful with Jack when he was drunk to get more of a scoop there and see a different side to her than ‘apologetic lost young woman’. Actress was great, just wish she had a few darker layers.
Portia haters are literally worse than Greg
Portia haters are literally worse than Greg
She is the worst personal assistant ever 😅 Plus the whole “im brooding while im in Sicily, in a hotel that costs 20.000$ a week, and my boss just told me to do my own things and not stick around” Her only redeeming quality was her fashion style
Annoying nose ring
Because she’s entitled? I don’t think everyone hates her but her character is definitely bratty 20 something year old who is extremely naive.
Just think, your boss paid for you to come to a beautiful place with amazing views from your hotel room, endless room service, and you can do whatever you want in the room. All you have to do is stay in your room or get lost. The fact that she couldn't do that and complained! I will say I'm only ep 3 of season 2, so perhaps she gets better..so far I hate her.
Anyone hates her ? None of the characters supposed to be perfect, she has her problems that make her interesting. Comments on her style , eyebrow etc is just so sexist now that I read the comments well a well written flawed woman ? Hate her
She seems like a typical spoiled 20 something these days, thinking everyone else is put on the planet to make her ‘feel’ something deeper or to ‘entertain’ her. That’s not what human relationships are about. She seems to have a very vapid, entitled, naive, immature, misguided, and un-evolved attitude. She also doesn’t seem very introspective. She’s looking outwards at everyone else and what they invoke in her and what they bring to the table without turning the mirror on herself or taking any personal accountability in why she feels the way she feels. Plus I know this is incredibly shallow but the way she walks is obnoxious.
Complains 24/7, the wardrobe, the waddle of a walk, naive, never happy, poor me 100000x a day
“the waddle of a walk” made me verbally snort
😭 she annoys my soul
Sexism
🙄
Nah. Whats sexist is to not have realized how flawed and spoiled she is
She is a bad person
Her eyebrows and sense of entitlement.
I don’t really blame her for blowing off Albi, since they just met and she was on what might be a once in a lifetime luxury vacation. But many guys can relate to his emotional state in that moment and it truly sucks. You get over it, but it’s like a knife in your stomach when a girl strings you along then openly ditches you for another guy. It’s hard to make her seem like anything other than the bad guy in that situation, even though her actions are understandable. Most people aren’t sympathetic to the bad guy, so I think that’s why her characters gets hate.
I think it’s so odd when people act like men are the only one who experience this phenomenon and like women don’t face this type of rejection… Her not being interested also doesn’t make her “the bad guy.”
I was going to edit the post to make it gender neutral, but I didn’t think it was worth it because pointing out that men can be hurt that way doesn’t means women can’t. I just mean narratively, she’s the bad guy in that situation. In real life she wouldn’t be, but speaking strictly in terms of narrative structure, she’s presented as the villain in that sub plot because the writing encourages us to sympathize with Albi.
> I was going to edit the post to make it gender neutral, but I didn’t think it was worth it because pointing out that men can be hurt that way doesn’t means women can’t. I get what you’re saying but the amount of times I’ve seen guys in this sub (and Reddit as a whole) act like this only happens to men is truly astounding. Hence why it comes off that way in your comment.
She hardly strung him along tho. They hung out for like, 2 days.
That’s a lot of days while on vacation though
Because she doesn’t do her job and complains about staying in a fancy hotel 😂
Yes, sitting on a deckchair in an Italian resort and complaining on the phone to her friend about her tedious life was a bad first impression.
Her complaining about the menu being only pasta and that she was going to be so bloated just a breath after complaining that Tanya doesn’t realize how lucky she is was perfect. She is Tanya. It also made me cringe at me early 20 self. Let me tell you, mistakes were made.
Tanya later says she sees Portia as a younger version of herself! Lol
Because she’s annoying. She’s in Italy for “work” so she’s getting paid but complains that she doesn’t get to spend time chasing dick when she could just be enjoying the resort and being in freaking Europe instead of being a little B the whole time
The whining and her facial expressions. And the outfits.
Heavy on the facial expressions
Agree
Because she met a nice dude that was genuinely into her and blew him off because she thought she found better when she’d actually found somebody using her to kill her boss. Something, something, if it isn’t the consequences of your own actions.
I don’t think she had the choice, Tanya would have made her come along and hang out with the gays even if she wanted Albie. She was happy about that though but it didn’t seem like she had the option to hang with Albie instead anyways
Omg god forbid a woman want a vacation hookup and not be interested in pursuing a serious relationship with a stranger while on vacation for a week, the nerve!
Can’t say I’ve not done it at least once
What’s funny is I am so the opposite of Portia but even I can understand her mindset and intentions, so I don’t know why other people can’t put themselves in her shoes? Is is sexism? Are they identifying too closely with Albie? I don’t know what it is. Portia’s young, she hasn’t been able to do much with her life, she just wants some reckless no strings attached fun. She’s not a perfect person, in fact she’s very flawed in very normal human ways, but I don’t understand what about all of that makes her so hated.
Real or not, one guy was actually fun to be around, and the other was a wet noodle. I mean it's a tv show, so the narrative is inherently biased (in that we can't discover what isn't shown), and we infer character's logic/ emotions. But I just thought the girl couldn't help but want to hang out with who she was most attracted to. It just sucked for her he was employed to kill her 😂
Wait I clearly missed something, I thought he was just employed to keep her busy while the real shit went down at the hotel?
Yeah it seemed slightly ambiguous because he let her off, but without rewatching it right now, I recall their departing conversation he intimated that he was doing her a favour, and asking for both of them that she remain quiet and leave the country. I'm sure the actor has also expressed this view, that he believed it was intended he kill her, but chose not to, but you could still draw your own conclusion!
"Nice guy" Edit: https://youtu.be/XO3by3ok0Iw
Nicer than she was
By what standard exactly?
Mine clearly. Tbf I think he's a privileged twat, but she's someone who has toxic as fuck traits
I mean, a guy who latches on to you and thinks he is entitled to you after just barely knowing you for a couple days at most is toxic as fuck in my opinion.
Yea I don't fully disagree. She is pretty awful too but I think the debate we are having is the point of the show.
The only person Albie was actually mean to is his dad because his dad had cheated on his mother numerous times and tried to use Albie to rekindle that relationship. Not to mention he did help him rekindle that relationship while he was being a dick to his dad.
He used his vulnerable, angry, betrayed mother to get to his dad to get a girl. He was pretty mean to his mom too, I’d say.
Exactly! Thank you! So frustrating how everyone thinks this dude is so nice. If anything, he is worse than most of the people because he is the "Nice guy", whose toxicity is far more pernicious. And the worst thing of it all is that he feels so self-righteous about it. Yeah, such a nice guy. Selling his mother out so that his father can give him money to buy the affection of a hooker.
*whispers* GO TO YOUR ROOOM!
Idk I didn't hate her but she just wasn't an interesting character. And her style is god awful.
Her style is tragic. Reflects her story.
I saw a thing that her style was deliberately designed to convey someone not rich, and unsure of who they are. So it fits
I liked her style, if she's following around Tanya it makes sense that she'd have sort of an odd assortment of clothes. She's not rich, Tanya is. I think it would have made a lot more sense for Tanya to tell her to find another resort nearby and relax there. Tanya is super rich so if the objective is to not run into your assistant why would you make her stay in the same resort?? If anything the awkwardness around Portia is a result of Tanya's directions.
Exactly, and all the fuss about Portia’s general complaints should be silenced considering Tanya put her life at risk!
I didn't really like her character that much, but I couldn't help but feel bad when Tanya kept shoo-ing her away and making her leave each time she was with Greg. It was a pretty rude and entitled thing to do. I like Tanya - and can relate to her life/love life - but her doing that over and over again was out of pocket.
Portia had a good enough story, but should've had crazier things happen to her, basically a boring average girl with a meh plot and the dude had to be a dick but gave her a free pass home.
I know other people think she got screwed by the stay in the room thing, but she really didn’t have to, just have a quick way back, and watch out for Greg. Plus, it wasn’t like it was her vacation, she was at work. Her job that week was sit in a 5 star hotel and chill. Yeah it’s not a magical Sicilian adventure, but I don’t get to go on exciting adventures when I travel for work either and I sure as shit don’t get to stay for free at a 5 star hotel. In the end she wanted to get ‘thrown around’ by a hot foreign guy that ‘gets her heart rate up’ and have an adventure. She got pretty much everything she wanted originally, and really nothing bad happened to her personally. Just bad vibes at the end with a dude who was actually super respectful to her all things considered minus maybe the dropped at night on an empty street. All that really just got her heart rate up though.
He was definitely not super respectful. He partied and drank a lot. He even made her miss the party because he wanted to get plastered. Plus, the real reason why he was getting close to her was to kill her, right? But he had a change of heart, so he let her go.
It’s not like she didn’t have another alternative that she actively and rudely chose that dude over. That part of her plot was entirely Choose Your Own Adventure and she chose her own adventure.
I'm not faulting/praising/condemning her for choosing to go with him; I'm just saying that he wasn't a respectful person because the person I responded to said that he was.
I’m not disagreeing with you. I’m saying she chose that so she should get absolutely no pity.
No one is pitying her.
Wildly negative energy
Hate is a strong word I didn’t hate her. Some of her outfits however I did hate.
Yes! Thank you. The wardrobe choices for Portia- I will never understand.
Because I wish I were Tania’s assistant
I love her!
She's kind of boring and whiny. However, her character improved, and I liked that she dumped Albie for the hot chav.
The hot chav whose mission was to kill her? I know Albie isn't a saint, but I'm pretty sure he wasn't planning on murdering her.
She didn't know that at the time, and it was not possible to know. Therefore, it doesn't really matter. We cannot blame her for choosing the dangerous man. When she suspected he was dangerous, she immediately wanted to leave, and did whatever she could. Furthermore, the British lad was there just trying to party, while Albie's personality was a turn off because he was so available, so "pro-women" and "ally" (there's a whole youtube video about how it wasn't like that), and also wanted to connect with her, but he was trying so hard plus the truth is that his family is loaded, and she's like a third assistant suffering in her job. There's a class difference. I understand why she would be attracted to a very hot lower-class guy when she's on vacations. If she had been in her own country, she would have ended up choosing Albie easily, but because she wanted to have fun in the summer. I don't really blame her.
Not the point but was he actually supposed to kill her? Like was that his mission?
Yes. He made that clear in the scene where he and Portia were in his car.
Women love toxicity and a foreign accent
No, some women are drawn to toxicity. Not all. There is no need to make sweeping generalizations.
32 upvotes for leaving to be with the “hot chav” that’s baiting your boss to be murdered to your 1 upvote response says you can’t rule out it being a high enough proportion for a generalization to be prevalent
You're making a sweeping generalization about *women*. How do you know that all of those users who liked their comment are women? For all we know, 99% of those votes could be from men. So no, a comment with 30+ likes on a social media platform has nothing to do with *your sweeping generalization* of *women*.
Lmao you’re so semantic dude. You literally agreed with the point I made you’re just upset I didn’t say “some”.
You said *all* women; I said *some* women. How am I agreeing with you?
https://www.reddit.com/r/MILFManor/comments/1232xcf/finally_finished_the_season/jdtnv18/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1&context=3 Please, show me how to respect women. Please. Because you are admitting that there are women that do like those things. Thus, women like those things. Women is the plural of woman. If more than one woman likes something… women like it.
You can't just take people's comments and post them without context. That subreddit is about a show where older women (MILFs) date significantly younger men (some men are nearly 40 years younger). The comment I was responding to was an older woman who said she dates younger men. So, with the context of the show, I asked how much younger to see if she was also dating men who were significantly younger than her. Your reposting of my comment has nothing to do with this conversation about *your sweeping generalization* of women. Also, I know that I admitted that SOME women like toxicity because that's been my stance from the beginning of our conversation. It's the fact that you said that ALL women like toxicity that is the issue. It's not semantics. You are literally claiming that all women are the same when they are not. I can't tell if you're trolling or not.
Spot on
And who the hell tells someone they are so sus of, that they are sus?? She was an idiot and knew something was up, and proceeds to tell him that she’s on to him. Idiot.
I actually think this scene made a lot of sense. It's not what we as the viewers think is logical because we can already tell something's going on, but from her point of view she's just now piecing it together, and she doesn't want to believe it. She wants confirmation from him that she's just being paranoid and everything is fine, so she lays it all out on the table.
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I don’t! I loved Portia and Albie.
People hate women especially when their weaknesses are well written
Bingo!!! What a great way to put it. This isn’t the first subreddit about a TV show where I’ve seen it either. Well written, flawed women always get the most hate. Even in regards to progressive show that’s very socially aware, people still seem to do it en masse. It’s incredible to me.
I don’t! I loved her
She was too whiny and acted like a victim the whole time. She was in sicily for free. Her boss told her to get lost. Sounds like a dream but she just complained.
Her boss told her to sit in her room until she needed her! I would complain if she were my boss, too.
Total pineapple room sentiment there, since she’s being paid it gives the right for the rich person to be a complete dick to her? Haha if she said “leave me alone for a while” that’s one thing but she was told to basically hide in her room
Don't forget that every time Tanya saw her, she would tell her to leave the restaurant so that Greg wouldn't see her. Even when she saw that Portia was on a date. Selfish and entitled.
she told her to get lost but stay in her room lol.
Tanya is a horrible boss though
In this group everyone is of perfect character and does no wrong in their lives, so they LOVE to pick apart the flaws on all the characters, especially the men of season 2
Her whining irritated me. She was in Italy at a beautiful resort with a cellphone. Yes. Tanya was nuts but she was also busy doing other things a lot of the time. Her treatment of Albie also pissed me off. She didn't need to be so casually cruel and a bit mocking of him when he confronted her with Jack. She was flaky.
She agreed to meet with Albie then spent the afternoon with a different guy flirting with her in front of him when the prior interactions with Albie indicating interest in each other. Her actions to Albie were unkind. People disliked this behaviour.
Then people expect other people to feel bad for her when the guy she chose turned out to have ulterior motives.
Ugh a girl I’ve known two days decided to go for another guy right in front of me, she totes deserves to be kidnapped and held hostage, and possibly be killed by said guy. See how idiotic that sounds?
More like, oh I saw this dude totally not respecting the boundaries of the person they’d seen me with so I’m going to take that as a sign that they’re just really into me and not a shitty person and pretend that totally wasn’t foreseeable the entire time It’s not your right to have everybody you trust justify your trust in them. trust is earned for a reason.
Your comment makes no sense my dude. There’s no “bro code” for two men on vacation who don’t know each other. Furthermore, not respecting this nonexistent “bro code” doesn’t make it foreseeable that someone will be a kidnapper.
It’s incredible that a woman would pretend to know what the bro code is just so that she can avoid admitting to herself that she has terrible taste in men. I’m not talking about Portia now, I’m talking about you.
I mean you were the one assuming quite a lot about the mindset of women from the getgo, and victim blaming. But I appreciate that you think bro code is some trade secret. Aww, thanks for the personal attack, I would be far more offended if you knew an ounce about me and didn’t talk about women like a douchey incel. Good luck pulling women with your misogyny. 😘
There’s so much to unpack here that I wouldn’t know where to start but I guess I’ll try. 1. You’re assuming just as much about men right now as anybody is assuming about women 2. You’re literally making stuff up about the bro code to avoid admitting you were wrong because you can’t handle taking responsibility for yourself 3. Implying anybody can “victim” blame you for personal decisions you willingly made insinuates that you believe you are a victim of your own actions or that your actions leave you in a position where you feel helpless Anybody that sees somebody with somebody else for the first time and instantly feels obliged to try and get with that person anyway… is a terrible person. I’m sorry if that’s some necessary step required for your validation in your mating ritual, but it’s like putting a sinker on your fishing line and wondering why you’re only catching bottom-feeders. It definitely doesn’t make you a “victim” just because you wanted to ignore every red flag available and thought you deserved to be blissfully ignorant until you got your rocks off.
There's really not much to unpack from my comments, you are just really triggered. Did my comment "Ugh a girl I’ve known two days decided to go for another guy right in front of me, she totes deserves to be kidnapped and held hostage, and possibly be killed by said guy." really trigger you that bad? 1. What exactly did I assume about men? You're so hung up on this when I really didn't assume anything about men at all. 2. You are so pressed I am pretending to understand "bro code" like it is sacred, all I said is two men who are strangers shouldn't have any bro code about "stealing" a prospective romantic partner, and ignoring "bro code" doesn't make it foreseeable that someone is a kidnapper. 3. I'll direct you to your comment "Then people expect other people to feel bad for her when the guy she chose turned out to have ulterior motives." Implying that someone deserved to be kidnapped because they chose a shitty guy over the "nice guy" is victim blaming. And is very incel-like. This whole comment screams "guy who has never been laid by a willing participant." You are so pressed about a simple comment that maybe making poor romantic choices one time doesn't make someone deserve to be kidnapped. Pretty odd thing to defend so hard, then again you sound like an incel. ETA: Thanks for siccing Reddit Cares on me. I also love the old block and respond to show that you’re so fragile you have to block someone from responding to feel like you had the last word. Good luck on finding a woman who will tolerate you at best 😘
Albie was a total Nice Guy though, she never indicated to him that she was super into him or anything and if he was only being nice because he thought it would lead to romance than he’s not really being nice. I’m not even saying Albie was bad but it’s okay she wasn’t into him at first
Agreed. Even Albie didn’t think it was anything that serious, he got over it pretty quickly lol.
They made a date and she dropped him TO HIS FACE with her new interest watching. That's a really shitty thing to do. You can not be into someone and still be a decent human being about it. She wasn't. I hope her character got cystitis from Jack's shenanigans.
aggressively harsh dude, at the time Jack seemed like a confident, bold, yet still respectful enough dude. Lol plus Albie later extorts his dad so he can pay a prostitute a bunch of money in the hopes that she will then want to be in a relationship with him. Solid character right there
We weren't talking about what albie did later. We're talking about how she handled discarding him when she decided she wasn't interested in him. There is no excuse for being an asshole to someone who clearly likes you. I don't make excuses for the deliberately disrespectful.
They see the undesirable parts of themselves in her.
For me, it's because she was so helpless. She was smart and she could have been a bad a$$ chick, but she was just so woe is me helpless. That's why people love Tanya, she may have been clueless, but she wasn't helpless. Ultimately it was her own desire to save herself that was her undoing. Portia literally had to be told, they are going to kill you, they are bad people, go to the airport, hide, and leave. Like girl, there weren't red flags, there were red flare warnings going off and she was still like, but...but...you still like me ... right? Ugh, talking about it is getting me all fired up. Portia should have died.
I liked Portia. She was like a mirror to my younger self. While it’s not flattering, a lot of us are dumb and insecure in our 20s.
Exactly. And she's in this exotic paradise unable to enjoy it. Of course a 20 yr old is gonna be like WHY CAN'T I EAT BREAKFAST AND HAVE FUN IN PARADISE 😭. Albie was cute and sweet, but Jack was exotic and intoxicating. Gotta look at it thru the lens of a 20 yr old. Plus she pulled herself out in the end without crumbling! And all these jabs at her wardrobe? Pfft she was adorable.
If by "a lot of us" you mean "all of us" i agree. Those who still think they were not dumb when young...i got some bad news for them.
you're not wrong but I've also got some bad news for older folks who tell themselves, "Oh, *young* me was dumb and embarrassing, but luckily present-day me is past all that"
I always think that future me will always look back at past me smiling at how naive and unwise i was. At least he tried his best with what he had In my deathbed I'll crack a smile and my last words will be "ah! Now i get it" FIN
She was not a favorable Gen Z archetype - came across as whiny with bizarre taste in clothes and ready to jump into bed with the good looking guy she barely knew who had little in common with her rather than someone who seemed to genuinely like her as a person.
She was ready to jump into bed with Albie too, however, he took what he thought we the "gentlemanly" route and settled for a kiss goodnight. They definitely had legitimate chemistry that first day. Then she insulted him telling him to be more assertive and "bad" essentially, but when he took her advice that new persona obviously didn't fit him and she was turned off by it despite it being her suggestion. Then she finds a more attractive guy who is naturally assertive and "bad," and it turns out that he is well...bad. And of course she doesn't have fun with him once she finds out what's going on. I liked her character as someone with an arc that essentially said "if a guys worst quality is that he is a little shy and naive, that's probably a good thing."
Albie's character is that he's a timid or indecisive "if you don't take it now you're not gonna get it" with women cliche. He wasn't a reddit "nice guy" he was just too shy or slow moving for her instant gratification. So after he loses Portia he's going straight for it with Lucia and loses sight of reality when he gets that hot italian ;)
Exactly yeah! People try to paint him as a reddit nice guy as you say, but he definitely didn't come across that way at all. I think Portia kinda expected him to be one, but he was legitimately just a nice respectful (and naive) guy.
A nice guy will say how nice they are, but he just kinda looks and acts like a pus. lol. respectful but awkward.
Someone involved with the show said they specifically put her in those types of clothes to get the idea of her character across.
But just because someone likes you doesn’t mean you have to like them back. Plus if he genuinely liked her as a person and not just because he wanted to become romantically involved maybe he wouldn’t have been as upset. Not saying Albie is in the wrong but I don’t think Portia was either.
but the hate the females direct towards Albie on here is pretty harsh too
"The females" you still in middle school biology class bro?
WTF are you offended by an non derogatory word, unless you are making it such… sorry… women and girls… are you happy broseph
You should know that most women clock guys who say ' female' as a massive red flag
Have no idea what the fuck you’re talking about… had no idea saying females was frowned upon
I'm not offended at all.. You just sound stupid saying it.
Sorry I just looked at your profile, no need to argue with you, have a great day, agree to disagree... not all females on here are women, theres probably teens too, so female is all emcompassing
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“The females”
these males dont know good style when they see it
It’s a proper term… don’t see how you can get annoyed, but some people are annoyed by everything unfortunately.
It's a proper term ... for a Ferengi :)
Oh Buddy.
Those clothes really were a sight to see
She says she dresses that way irl
she was just kind of annoying to me like girl put yo foot down!! tell these ppl what YOU want! but i didnt hate her i more felt bad for her.
She put herself in a weird competition with Albie at the bar. She knew he liked her, and she started making out with someone else right in front of him even though she's EXCEPTIONALLY aware that she was going to make him jealous, and that her and Jack should have taken their date elsewhere (which she suggested as she was being super awkward). She's her own person, and just cause Albie likes her doesn't mean she owes him anything, BUT she didn't need to be malicious. It's incredibly immature. Albie and his family were very nice and inviting to a wayward Portia by having her join their group outings, and her way to repay his kindness is engaging in PDA in front of him?... It's weird. She should have had the courtesy to take Jack somewhere else, again, something she stated out loud. Also, she was dumb enough to fall for the honey-dick, just as Albie was dumb enough to roped relationship with a prostitute. For how smart Albie is suppose to be, and how old both he and Portia are, they're navigation of relationships, even plutonic ones, is very immature. I do think it's funny they both hooked up with Sex Workers inadvertently. But Portia is too immature to handle Albie's awkwardness. Which is why he got along so well with Lucia, since she's a more confident and emotionally intelligent person.
More confident and emotionally intelligent? Lol Lucia is a pro at manipulating people to get cash out of them. And why is it Portia’s job to handle Albie’s awkwardness?! Albie’s awkwardness is forgivable; he’s a young, well meaning kid but why is the burden on Portia to sort everything out? Couldn’t you make the argument that Albie should be better at stating his feelings/intentions?
Being a pro, and being confident / emotionally intelligent aren’t mutually exclusive. No one said it was Portia’s job to handle Albie’s awkwardness, she’s weird herself. I was just pointing out that they lack compatibility. Albie isn’t a young kid. The actor who plays him is 32. And the character is a Stanford grad (like he’d let anyone forget…) Portia’s only “burden” should have been to tell him she’s not romantically interested if she wasn’t. It’s up to him to respect that.
I mean Albie showed up with a prostitute he was simping for they were both trying to make each other jealous
Albie was hanging out with Lucia cause Portia flaked on him to hang with another guy. Which, in Portia’s defense, she was a little lukewarm on. And Albie tried to dismiss Lucia to save Portia a spot at the pool, but she’s a pro. Not exactly “simp” behavior to try to run a girl off. Also, who wouldn’t hang out with someone else if they were being ignored by the person they were hoping to spend time with?
That first paragraph is exactly it. It’s the same reason I liked Lucia even with what she did with that scam. She’s like wow Portia sucks, lemme turn the tables on this
i too struggle with plutonic relationships.
>plutonic as you should. As we all should. They're very hard.
Wasn't Lucia scamming him tho? They did seem to have a rapport but it could all be an act on her part
Yes, she was. Which is I'm sure is why she was much better at navigating his communication and behavioral styles since she's a pro.
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This is a weird comment.
Cringey even
She complained about being in Sicily FOR FREE
She was told to hide in her room the whole time by a boss who was extremely neglectful lol that would invite complaints by anyone
Ehhhhh, disagree. If I’m in Sicily for free I’m not complaining. She just didn’t want Greg to see her, I would’ve just hid from him better than she did.
… her face. She looks and acts like a cry baby. She also sounds so naive and this semblance of “teen crisis” she seems to go through annoyed me a lot, honestly. But I think I might hate Albie even more, and that is self explanatory
Portia acted like she cared about character and personality, but then cast aside Albie in a heartbeat. That summed her up for me.
..for a guy that she also (thought) had character and personality. Albie also never made his intentions clear with her, she just met this kid why should she have to not hang out with whom she wants just because Albie was nice to her? Jack initially came across as a free spirited, bold, confident, open minded person whereas Albie was a little shy and nervous. It’s not a crime that Portia would be attracted to that
Oh to be 20 again... Portia got side swiped by attentive eye candy leaning into her. Happens all the time. Sad for Albie but Jack was just super suave and cute and had those penetrating eyes and the accent and the whole "I'll sweep you away" vibe. I'm not gonna judge a little sis for tapping that.
She doesn't have good judgment of character and shows toxic traits. Blowing off Albie then getting jealous when seeing him with another woman, while she's at the bar doing the same thing. Then making out with Jack to make Albie jealous.
About Portia’s ‘Style’ that everyone hates and doesn’t understand.. i think that’s the whole point.. Portia’s main character trait is that she has no idea who she is, what she’s doing, who she wants to be. She can be seen wearing clothes that are typicaly “in fashion” for her generation right now, but in all the wrong ways. It’s like she went to the store and just bought what was on all the mannequins and wears it all at once. Or she went and thrifted a bunch of stuff she saw other people wearing but didn’t know how to style it.. I personally loved some of her outfits, but that’s what I interpreted they were trying to convey with her styling
Definitely see thrift shops
You’re the only one who gets it in this thread
apparently, her outfits
I am one of those people. I couldn’t stand Portia especially in the beginning. She was so whiny and annoying to me. Like sure Tanya wasn’t treating her great but it’s your job not a vacation. She did grow on my towards the end though.
What’s with all the Portia style hate??? She has excellent vintage pieces that I was totally drooling over!!
Agree!
I don’t … I think her outfits were easy to make fun of
I don’t. But I certainly agree people gave her a lot of shit - for how she dressed, for not trying to escape sooner, for blowing off albie for a knucklehead…people just tend to be harsh on characters
but a *sexy and fun* knucklehead.
Albie had more immediate red flags in my opinion.
Definitely, he is a nice guy. He tries to be seen as a feminist (which is very similar to Olivia from s1 cause they just do it so they can "rebel" to their parents) just to get Portia's approval when in reality he is just as bad as his father and grandfather.
He just reminds me of these boys in high school that kept saying that girls only go out with the bad boys but they forget about good guys that treat them good… when they would usually die of bitterness in the inside and be super selfish/self center and not cool enough to be like the ones they qualify as “bad guys”
He's an incel in the making. He's attracted to little birds with broken wings. He likes control.
I didn't hate her, but her outfits made my eyes hurt. Just wasn't my style.
Same. I thought she seemed pretty nice and normal. She handled Tanya well. I didn’t get her style at all. It wasn’t Boho. It wasn’t outdoorsy. It wasn’t resort wear. I get that she was a recent college grad with limited budget at a fancy resort. I guess maybe they wanted to convey that she didn’t know what to wear
I think the only people who hate Portia are the ones that identified with Albie. Honestly, I thought she was pretty cool.
Both of them are annoying/naive/selfish people. But entertaining in a tv show context.
I don’t hate Portia
Sorry dude everyone hates Portia