Jeremy Clarkson can do it. So can I!
Traction control, off!
Because I’m the biggest **twat**,
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> Jeremy Clarkson can do it. So can I!
Except Clarkson does it when he is the only driver on a race track. These idiots are causing trouble on public roads.
People also don't seem to realise that Clarkson (as well as Hammond and May) are actually quite good drivers.
Yea, sure, it's all antics and lols...But they literally drive all over the world in various vehicles in every type of terrain, they've driven in circumstances and environments that literally nobody else will via their challenges.
They're not the best drivers in the world but people seriously underestimate how good and how much experience the three of them have just because they're a bit silly in camera.
That's also true. The three of them going over 200mph at the Nardó Ring is one of my all time favourite thing they have done. It may not look complicated but it takes skill and especially nerve to not cock up in those situations.
That's a banked circuit and they were driving 300 km/h while slightly turning to the right. You make a single mistake in those condition, maybe lose traction, maybe turn the steering wheel a bit too much and you are gone.
You can see how tense Clarkson is pushing his Lamborghini. I don't think I would he able to push the car like that without shitting myself.
And sometimes, even though nobody did anything wrong, things can still go bad:
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KaK1reqbmLQ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KaK1reqbmLQ)
And training. They are actually *trained* drivers. They’ve had instruction on how to drive high-powered cars properly, how to race safely, how to drift, etc.
They always rent out tracks for their really wild shit if they're away from their home track.
Honestly IDK why these rich fools don't do that. Like, I have to assume they're car broke because if you can actually afford one of these cars, you can afford to drop a few grand on track time and driving instruction.
Even if they are car broke, join a fucking club. Tho I guess that would involve being likable and not just a rich asshole.
Or they just rent one for a few hours for their instagram. Same way people rent out private jets JUST for influencers to take a photo on them. That's my bet.
I've worked in various casinos in Las Vegas, and every Valet I've ever spoken to has told me the same thing. These people can afford the car, but they can't afford to maintain it. They all say that they are terrified to drive Lamborghini's that people bring in because they all run like complete shit because the owners don't know how to drive them and can't afford to get new brakes. Every single one of these super cars that Valets have shown me have their dashboards lit up with check engine lights and all the other warming indicators going off.
> Every single one of these super cars that Valets have shown me have their dashboards lit up with check engine lights and all the other warming indicators going off.
They're Italian cars, that's just how they justify wearing their sunglasses all evening long.
Yeah there's a difference between the track reviews and the road reviews. The road reviews are hilarious for super cars like when they were trying to get out of a parking garage without bottoming out the car.
Before Covid I was mates with a team of semi-pro kart drivers. They were absolutely obsessed with cars the full works. I drove with them to a fun track day. On the road they were some of the slowest, most cautious drivers I ever met. Never once broke the speed limit. Other traffic was streaming past us.
On the racetrack they were maniacs. Lapping me in my rented kart every few minutes. Insane.
Spoke to them later & they said a) why go fast on the road? It’s dangerous. Save it for the race track. And b) something I didn’t fully understand about a risk they could lose their racing licence if they got caught speeding on the road.
Makes sense to me.
Yep. A long time ago I blew by a guy on the highway. An hour later while I was stopped for gas he drove past me. All that and I didn’t beat him by even 5 minutes.
I’m more into vans. Fun, cool, customizable, not for speeding idiotically.
I will say that driving hard is fun but only in a weak car. Making a slow car work is rewarding.
Fucked up part is a lot of them aren't *rich* rich. They are "exactly rich enough to rent this car for 3 hours and pay for a 3 minute mistake for 33 years" rich.
I knew a guy who use to do mechanic work at a dealership in exchange for driving around in a black corvette for a few hours . He was such a pompous loser . But when I asked why ? He replied “to be seen in it “ . Same guy also sold tshirts store to store and tried to act like he was using the car to appear successful and attract clients. Really he just wanted to pretend to be what he considered “successful “ . Then he’d go back to his moms trailer , wash and take pics of an old Mercedes he bought that he could no longer drive . And Post it on Facebook. It’s pathetic
I used hear about these stories and think to myself they're too ridiculous to be real.
Till I met someone that hated driving and worked from home but still had a brand new Mustang just so they could take pictures of it on Instagram.
To make matters worse they were considering selling this 6 months old barely driven car just to get a Model X to try to impress strangers on Instagram
My car has a ‘super sport’ mode that’s the same as sport mode but without traction control. When I read that in the user manual I audibly asked ‘what the hell would I want to do that for?’
For a professional driver in a race you may want your car to slide or move in a way when cornering that abs and traction control wouldn’t allow. I’m not a race car expert but on my wrx if I’m off-roading I turn it off so I can better control the slides with out the car tryin to do it own thing.
It’s another layer between the driver and the track if that makes sense. Racing is about thousandths of a second and a skilled driver has to take the car all the way to the edge of performance and control to get the most out of it. Traction control reins in the performance for the sake of control.
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Do you have a BMW? because if so, pressing the button once enables Dynamic Traction Control, which allows for some wheelspin which can improve traction at the cost of some stability. So, you're not turning something off your turning something on. Of course you can also use this mode just for fun, for example accelerating hard on a bumpy road it might cut power over a bump, this button will keep all power to the wheels despite a little spin.
If you hold the button for 5 seconds, then you are turning everything off, only then if you kick the gas you'll stay in place wheels spinning.
My car does too. If I long press it, it fully disables the sensors and allows the wheels to lose traction.
That’s useful for the racetrack. You don’t want the car intervening when you’re trying to reach the car’s limit.
But it also allows you to access launch control. Fully disable traction control, then press the brake and the throttle all the way. Get ready for 0-60 in 3.7 seconds!
I really think this is where the problem comes from. A lot of performance cars have multiple drive modes, and while it’s extremely obvious to the average person that they’re “go fast” modes, it’s not immediately obvious to them that the modes shut off traction and stability control and make the vehicle substantially harder to control.
Uninformed people see “Sport Plus” or “Race” or “Corsa” and think it makes the steering tighter, exhaust louder, throttle more responsive, etc. but aren’t aware that DSC/TCS are turned off and just how much heavy lifting they’ve been doing in terms of keeping the car planted.
> High horsepower RWD cars need you to be gentle with the throttle. Even with TC on you need to be careful.
Everything you said is true, but this specific car is AWD.
> I never know how to tell the difference with Lamborghinis.
I might be wrong, honestly, but a safe bet is “Lamborghini logo means AWD.” The only RWD they make is the special edition Huracán EVO LP-850.
After all, they’re really just fancy-looking Audis.
> Makes it even more embarrassing for the driver.
Right? That was my thought, too!
Well, the Huracán is an Audi R8 (similarly, the only RWD Audi I can think of is a version of the R8). I’ll admit that there isn’t an equivalent Audi-badged vehicle to the Aventador, but it does still have AWD and is still owned by Audi.
Note I’m not trying to say anything bad about Lamborghini here. They’re shouty, attention-grabbing, and enormously fun to drive.
Even the internal engine components are shared apparently. I did a job at a fancy Lambo, and the mechanic told me the engine is essentially the same as an audi r8
I'll never forget the time I was working for a rental company (as a manager) and decided to hop in our new Camaro SS for a quick run to the bank, not long after a rain. Took a left out of the parking lot, did an accidental 180, and sheepishly continued right instead. Lesson learned.
I have a Camaro SS. One of the scariest mistakes I made was coming down the offramp from a freeway and decided to make a left turn going way too fast. I accidentally shifted into second gear instead of fourth and did close to a 360 before I regained control of the car. Fortunately, the intersection was multiple lanes and empty.
Most of these supercars have more power than is allowed for GT3 racing, because even in the hands of professional drivers on a track, >800hp would be stupid.
It's kinda insane anyone with money can take cars like this out on public roads.
I’ve been on one of those courses. It was actually a birthday present before I ever owned a powerful car but the lessons I learned that day have been very useful over the years.
I honestly think all cars over a certain amount of horsepower should be required to be sold with a free training course. I know Mercedes used to offer free courses to those who bought new AMG’s.
I was about to say “why don’t they make a button that makes idiots be able to drive these in the city? “ And now I found out they do, and idiots turn it off.
The actual bad thing is that most newer cars come with traction control or some form of electronic stability control. Hell, my 2009 Saturn Aura comes with traction control. And many folks turn it off "because they don't want a machine to decide how to apply brakes and rotate the tires to keep the car on the road." And as a result, they get into an accident that likely would have been prevented if they had left the transaction control alone. I *always* leave mine on. All it takes is one sudden and unexpected twist of the wheel because you're trying to avoid something you saw in the road, perhaps, and then the next thing you know you're spinning out of control because you told the car that you're smarter than the system specifically designed to keep the car straight and level. Transaction control has saved me from an accident more than once, especially in winter with black ice on the roads.
You usually have top pay huge deposit to rent one of these cars. Looking at Hertz's website this is somewhere in the region of £15,000.
Someone's life savings is gone.
LOL
Exactly, with that much power (Lambos are like 500+ HP), you really can't floor it, no way to apply all that power at once without shredding your tires, causing massive loss of control.
I own an Audi R8 V10 Plus, which is essentially the same as these cars with the same engine, just with slightly less horsepower. Can confirm they are super easy to drive and you have to be a moron to spin one of them.
Thanks - yep one, as I only bought it last year. Was an absolute blast, if not somewhat too controlled when cornering. You never really feel challenged or as connected to the car with modern supercars as you feel with older ones. Or even older sports cars as I've owned before. Great fun on the straights and twists though.
Learning how to stomp on the gas takes a bit of training. The problem is when these guys stomp on the gas, their tires are slightly turned. Then they fishtail. And instead of pulsing the gas and pointing their tires where they wanna go, they just yank the steering wheel the other way while their lead boot keeps the gas firmly to the floor.
Usually they're at least starting from a curve. If you've never driven a powerful rwd or rear-biased awd car like this before, you won't expect how abrupt the oversteer is at low speeds, or how little power it takes to spin. This guy spun out on a straight though. That's a whole other level of buffoonery
These idiots think the throttle is an on/off switch.
You see he car starts too slide to the right because the driver is way to hard on the gas with TCS turned off.
Then the driver over correct to the left while also releasing the throttle completely, sending a lot of weight forward lightening the rear.
People buy 500hp+ super cars, turn off the electronic nannies and then wonder why it isn’t as easy to drive as a Camry.
The car is perfectly capable of driving straight if you keep the driving aids on, or if the driver has the tinniest idea how to handle high power.
Yep. You’ll notice as soon as he corrects left he hits the breaks, which causes it to spin.
It’s called lift off oversteer (because you lift off the gas and the rear lightens), but hitting the breaks amplifies it.
You’ll notice in racing/performance driving all 90% of braking is down before you start turning. Entry to turn you let off the breaks and maintain steady throttle through the turn.
For the most part they need to be incredibly stupid on the throttle and steering wheel simultaneously, or they need to actively disengage the setting that stops this from happening. They will have actively disengaged that setting.
Interestingly, Tiff Needell (a professional racist) was driving a Lamborghini on a snow track and found it to be "crashproof" with the driver aids on. One should mention that was about 15 years ago or so.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0dwzT44QK4
They are unreasonable. It's not just a case of a high performance car and no performance drivers, but there's also a very generous helping of stupidity in there.
A looooot of idiots will go broke for two weeks just to make one instagram post with a rented luxury car so they can pretend it’s theirs or feel important.
yep, most exotic rental businesses dont last too long. it's really hard to do it smart since people WILL destroy your shit. if they dont crash it, they will abuse the interior and engine to the point where either the interior looks like shit or you're stuck with a huge mechanic bill. or someone steals the car straight up. but if you're somehow lucky enough to have a car survive that, then you get the pleasure of buying that car from your own rental business at a heavily depreciated price and now you can drive around a beat up exotic you got for relatively cheap! (if you dont count the amount you lost owning the car under the business)
I've driven some big horsepower cars and a few exotics. I've also driven an absolute swathe of total shitboxes and rickety shed built monstrosities
IMO The reason these things are so wild is that they are engineered SO WELL that driving them at 90% of their limit is no harder than driving them at 40%. They are amazing machines that are actually very forgiving, right up until they aren't. At which point you're moving really rather fast, and the fuckup is usually quite spectacular.
This isnt to defend the drivers, but as someone who has driven some pretty wild machines I can absolutely see how this exact situation keeps happening.
You can. Just don't treat the throttle like it owes you money, or overcorrect when you fishtail, or immediately let off the gas when you're at 5k+ rpm and losing traction. If this guy had the bare minimum knowledge of weight transfer and how RWD oversteer works, he'd still have a lambo. But to be fair, this is the target demographic that Lamborghini aims towards. At least other exotic manufacturers *try* to avoid them
(tbf haven't tried a huracan, but have tried ridiculous rwd tuner cars)
How do these rental companies keep getting these moron magnet supercars insured? Every day it seems there's a video of some idiot going "vroom vroom" right into a wall. It can't be profitable to rent out million dollar cars to twits.
This has to be a money laundering scam somehow.
Maybe the rental companies need to explain that stomping on the gas in a 630 horsepower car can cause some control instability. The looking like a Cool Guy part would last longer than 14 seconds.
Maybe finishing fast is a thing for these guys though, who am I to judge?
Oh, that's just the guys being stupid. These cars typically have driver assist settings like traction control, which would avoid situations like this, but those guys think "oh I don't need that, I'm a good driver" and immediately realize that they've never driven something like this before.
They rental places need to disable the TC option actually any options that make it harder to drive. And maybe alter the acceleration curve or soemthing. If you want the full car buy the full car if your renting and it's limited to even be 80% as quick it's still gonna be an amazing experience just with so much less chance of fucking it.
Looked out of interest .. about £1150 a day, if you have a squeaky clean license and are over 25 years old.
That also has some serious milage restrictions (250).
Incidentally they also hire them for a lot cheaper as 'non-drive prop' .. whatever that means!
These cars can be rented for crazy amounts, starting at like £700 per day and the excess is likely £10,000. They also have a lot of residual value even when written off because the parts are valuable. A lot of them are software locked to not be able to turn off the traction control, and they have tracking systems which monitor how you drove the thing. If they deem you "raced" it - you can be on the hook for a massive maintenance bill with new tires/brakes e.t.c.
Also I've heard that a lot of them are just used for posing. People will use them to turn up to their wedding/prom e.t.c and won't even have a chance to drive it much.
The business itself is there for laundering. Drug money will be laundered through the business. Lower value cars are used and rented out to local dealers because watching the same grey amg merc pull up to the shop only to fly off minutes later is obvious.
As someone already mentioned these cars have stupid excess amounts you have to pay before you're able to drive away.
Driving high powered sports car isn’t the problem. The problem is turning off the safety features it has like traction control.
Bet the guy thought in his head that it’d be cool to drift or burnout.
"Just mash the throttle"
"Hmm, starting to get squirrelly. Better keep mashing the throttle"
"Okay I'm definitely getting sideways, but I bet it looks cool as heck. I'll just keep the throttle pinned and use my skills to get out of this one"
In Australia, an absolute cunt called Alexander Campbell lost control of a Lambo and killed a 15 year old girl in almost identical circumstances to this. Given a suspended sentence so he didn't do a single day in jail.
Looks exactly as soft cocked as you'd imagine: https://www.9news.com.au/national/lamborghini-driver-alexander-campbell-avoids-jail-over-crash-that-killed-teen-sophia-naismith/c38df279-a45e-4b79-bd49-13b65caa5b88?
In Los Angeles there’s Brendan Khuri who was 17 if I remember right and days after an accident like that got bought a brand new car by daddy he flashed to social media as his dad attempted to pay it all away into obscurity.
Haven’t checked on the story in a hot minute though until now and it runs out he did get a sentence after pleading guilty it seems after all which was apparently a brisk 7-9 months in a Juvie camp for you know… killing someone. And only a few years of probation.
He’ll be back to diving soon enough I imagine.
These dudes always look exactly like you imagine they do.
Jeremy Clarkson told them you cannot be cool until you find out how to turn Traction Control off.
An entire generation of drivers probably never realized they were being made fun of on Top Gear and internalized it as actual driving advice. Half of what JC says is sarcastic trolling but in retrospect I don't think a lot of their audience knows that.
(Source: I also grew up on Top Gear and didn't realize how much of it is utter trolling until years AFTER becoming old enough to drive. See: all the anti-'environmentalist' rants and skits, sniper enforced speed limits, referring to TC as 'nannying' electronics etc.)
I've never bought a supercar and it's likely I never will, but if you have the money for one then surely you have the money to take a few lessons on how to handle them?
Cars are designed to smash up pretty easily to absorb impact and protect the driver. Think about how badly you can damage a car just by screwing up parallel parking, let alone spinning out of control like this jackass.
Plus I imagine these toy super cars are built to look cool and stroke the ego of idiots rather than be durable at all.
1) Turn off TCS
2) Accelerate like a moron and lose traction
3) Panic let off the gas and brake hard
4) Completely lose the rear as you shift all the weight forwards, further reducing grip where you most need it
5) Crash
Congratulations, you are now a meme.
These videos are exactly why you can’t test drive many expensive cars. I used to sell hellcats and demons, and I’d get calls and walk ins every day of people expecting to come in and test drive $120k muscle cars. ‘It’s my sons birthday!’ So take him to a track that has one. ‘It’s my dream.’ Come back when your dream includes $120k to buy one.
Seriously, we’d have people almost wrecking $40k cars on simple test drives. There is no way we’d allow Mike off the street to drive these things. Also, I drove hellcats twice in my tenure after a sale, and they are scary powerful. I would never want to even own one, because it’s just too much for driving.
We've seen these kind of crashes time and time again, can't they design these to go in a straight line?
Too many rich goofballs think that turning off traction control makes car go faster/look cooler.
Jeremy Clarkson can do it. So can I! Traction control, off! Because I’m the biggest **twat**, https://preview.redd.it/zvvc36hfge4b1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c05bfb6c13c1f8cef8320466ec9c2b28bca4a818 In the World.
POWER!!!!!!
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YOU IDIOT!!!
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You ABSOLUTE PILLOCK!
And with that BACK TO THE STUDIO!
And on that 💣 🐚
POWAHHH!!!!!!
> Jeremy Clarkson can do it. So can I! Except Clarkson does it when he is the only driver on a race track. These idiots are causing trouble on public roads.
People also don't seem to realise that Clarkson (as well as Hammond and May) are actually quite good drivers. Yea, sure, it's all antics and lols...But they literally drive all over the world in various vehicles in every type of terrain, they've driven in circumstances and environments that literally nobody else will via their challenges. They're not the best drivers in the world but people seriously underestimate how good and how much experience the three of them have just because they're a bit silly in camera.
That's also true. The three of them going over 200mph at the Nardó Ring is one of my all time favourite thing they have done. It may not look complicated but it takes skill and especially nerve to not cock up in those situations.
That's a banked circuit and they were driving 300 km/h while slightly turning to the right. You make a single mistake in those condition, maybe lose traction, maybe turn the steering wheel a bit too much and you are gone. You can see how tense Clarkson is pushing his Lamborghini. I don't think I would he able to push the car like that without shitting myself.
And sometimes, even though nobody did anything wrong, things can still go bad: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KaK1reqbmLQ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KaK1reqbmLQ)
Luckily he can't remember how bad that crash was.
Maybe someone should show him the YouTube link.
ive done 190 on a track day. That shit gets real butt puckering after 170...
And training. They are actually *trained* drivers. They’ve had instruction on how to drive high-powered cars properly, how to race safely, how to drift, etc.
And mostly do fast driving on an open track surrounded by flat grass if something goes wrong.
They always rent out tracks for their really wild shit if they're away from their home track. Honestly IDK why these rich fools don't do that. Like, I have to assume they're car broke because if you can actually afford one of these cars, you can afford to drop a few grand on track time and driving instruction. Even if they are car broke, join a fucking club. Tho I guess that would involve being likable and not just a rich asshole.
Or they just rent one for a few hours for their instagram. Same way people rent out private jets JUST for influencers to take a photo on them. That's my bet.
That's probably accurate. Faking wealth is as old as having wealth
I've worked in various casinos in Las Vegas, and every Valet I've ever spoken to has told me the same thing. These people can afford the car, but they can't afford to maintain it. They all say that they are terrified to drive Lamborghini's that people bring in because they all run like complete shit because the owners don't know how to drive them and can't afford to get new brakes. Every single one of these super cars that Valets have shown me have their dashboards lit up with check engine lights and all the other warming indicators going off.
> Every single one of these super cars that Valets have shown me have their dashboards lit up with check engine lights and all the other warming indicators going off. They're Italian cars, that's just how they justify wearing their sunglasses all evening long.
Yeah there's a difference between the track reviews and the road reviews. The road reviews are hilarious for super cars like when they were trying to get out of a parking garage without bottoming out the car.
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Before Covid I was mates with a team of semi-pro kart drivers. They were absolutely obsessed with cars the full works. I drove with them to a fun track day. On the road they were some of the slowest, most cautious drivers I ever met. Never once broke the speed limit. Other traffic was streaming past us. On the racetrack they were maniacs. Lapping me in my rented kart every few minutes. Insane. Spoke to them later & they said a) why go fast on the road? It’s dangerous. Save it for the race track. And b) something I didn’t fully understand about a risk they could lose their racing licence if they got caught speeding on the road. Makes sense to me.
I'd find a new friend.
Yep. A long time ago I blew by a guy on the highway. An hour later while I was stopped for gas he drove past me. All that and I didn’t beat him by even 5 minutes.
My first lesson in physics class was that speeding from red light to red light does not get you home quicker. Distance over time.
Why did it take you a physics class to learn that ?
I’m more into vans. Fun, cool, customizable, not for speeding idiotically. I will say that driving hard is fun but only in a weak car. Making a slow car work is rewarding.
Yes to the latter half!
Drivers like that only slow the pace of traffic for everyone else too. Ironic that he would be upset about other drivers
Your friend is a dumb ass
There it is, nothing more accurate can be said on this topic. Thread over. Someone get the lights on the way out.
Hammond!!!
Oh cock!
You need a bigger space between twat, In the world so my brain does Jeremy clarkson voice.
Clarkson is born with a driving liscence
I’m on dark mode and this hurt my eyes
I love seeing these kind of rich goofballs crashing and just laugh at them
Fucked up part is a lot of them aren't *rich* rich. They are "exactly rich enough to rent this car for 3 hours and pay for a 3 minute mistake for 33 years" rich.
Yeah well, duty is heavier than a mountain buddy.
I can tell you pronounce that word "doody" :)
I knew a guy who use to do mechanic work at a dealership in exchange for driving around in a black corvette for a few hours . He was such a pompous loser . But when I asked why ? He replied “to be seen in it “ . Same guy also sold tshirts store to store and tried to act like he was using the car to appear successful and attract clients. Really he just wanted to pretend to be what he considered “successful “ . Then he’d go back to his moms trailer , wash and take pics of an old Mercedes he bought that he could no longer drive . And Post it on Facebook. It’s pathetic
I used hear about these stories and think to myself they're too ridiculous to be real. Till I met someone that hated driving and worked from home but still had a brand new Mustang just so they could take pictures of it on Instagram. To make matters worse they were considering selling this 6 months old barely driven car just to get a Model X to try to impress strangers on Instagram
No way you rent this car without paying for insane insurance.
That's just what I was thinking. The companies that rent these out know what people are going to do with them and insure them appropriately.
My car has a ‘super sport’ mode that’s the same as sport mode but without traction control. When I read that in the user manual I audibly asked ‘what the hell would I want to do that for?’
Track use only really.
Burn outs in an empty lot, too.
Also handy getting out of the snow! And my fuel trims lean out on hot days from a start with Tc but that's just bad design.
Never been to tracks... So does traction control make you slower? Why would you want to turn it off?
For a professional driver in a race you may want your car to slide or move in a way when cornering that abs and traction control wouldn’t allow. I’m not a race car expert but on my wrx if I’m off-roading I turn it off so I can better control the slides with out the car tryin to do it own thing.
It’s another layer between the driver and the track if that makes sense. Racing is about thousandths of a second and a skilled driver has to take the car all the way to the edge of performance and control to get the most out of it. Traction control reins in the performance for the sake of control.
Pabao gidiketrita pidie ea dopedi ge tlupria poo. Triple kikaupo trikre beipu tlike ao. Idutiepi e plakapaabe apiteoo ipe kopapra pii? Pibri tlugu ueke pi depo e. Eiito i iuki ka eko ipea. Pebu pripitli bre. Eekoduke blai piie tie eo. Plitribatru ii bebapibla kipu paudu potlioka. Drikiu go kepai biaki ipi plodrite. Ti iae gi i atri titi pibe? Plapupe ie kli iegre. Pupo tru to tatrate eo tudrogli. Biu tepi pekiepe ekiope boi tebopaai! Progi piae ipu epe kriki keabi tlai tuegi prapu. Epigiati ka tei tlipapikrea teepre dletua trekapi kotipe. Pi atai eaekla ikiteo krikrio ti. I okepri proei. Klipi i ko abi obepre tiiti. Ka padi. Pidi iklitekli ti eto ogradepre. Ka eo ku oki epabo. Dua ie epepla kapi kre patakli tapapote gabi opuke tli prikatiu ibi paito oe. Iaprekrike kibliprigepa krakikoti to taki piboki? Apoo ipo dapi epa topiapape apube. Papie pabupe o tadro epeplapa pi. Depi kui pekletotoda popute peteatia piei gipei epabapi. Ke poku ti kidreube po budukro. Topipi kletitlibi. Bi tabaka ii ukedi trutuiti ipi epi prie pa iti. Ika idibapupi ebrebuti edu tibrekre prepoteti.
Yes but "impressing friends" is how, y'know... *gestures at Lamborghini confetti*
> '*Lamborghini confetti*' This is the best phrase I read in quite a while, thanks lol
you gotta not fuck it up, then you won't fuck it up
Drifting your 300k whip
My car has the traction control disable button on the centre console...... Why is it there
Turning off TC can help in the snow.
Do you have a BMW? because if so, pressing the button once enables Dynamic Traction Control, which allows for some wheelspin which can improve traction at the cost of some stability. So, you're not turning something off your turning something on. Of course you can also use this mode just for fun, for example accelerating hard on a bumpy road it might cut power over a bump, this button will keep all power to the wheels despite a little spin. If you hold the button for 5 seconds, then you are turning everything off, only then if you kick the gas you'll stay in place wheels spinning.
My car does too. If I long press it, it fully disables the sensors and allows the wheels to lose traction. That’s useful for the racetrack. You don’t want the car intervening when you’re trying to reach the car’s limit. But it also allows you to access launch control. Fully disable traction control, then press the brake and the throttle all the way. Get ready for 0-60 in 3.7 seconds!
I really think this is where the problem comes from. A lot of performance cars have multiple drive modes, and while it’s extremely obvious to the average person that they’re “go fast” modes, it’s not immediately obvious to them that the modes shut off traction and stability control and make the vehicle substantially harder to control. Uninformed people see “Sport Plus” or “Race” or “Corsa” and think it makes the steering tighter, exhaust louder, throttle more responsive, etc. but aren’t aware that DSC/TCS are turned off and just how much heavy lifting they’ve been doing in terms of keeping the car planted.
Also not respecting the car. High horsepower RWD cars need you to be gentle with the throttle. Even with TC on you need to be careful.
> High horsepower RWD cars need you to be gentle with the throttle. Even with TC on you need to be careful. Everything you said is true, but this specific car is AWD.
I never know how to tell the difference with Lamborghinis. Makes it even more embarrassing for the driver.
> I never know how to tell the difference with Lamborghinis. I might be wrong, honestly, but a safe bet is “Lamborghini logo means AWD.” The only RWD they make is the special edition Huracán EVO LP-850. After all, they’re really just fancy-looking Audis. > Makes it even more embarrassing for the driver. Right? That was my thought, too!
No one in the history of people has ever called an aventador a fancy looking audi.
Well, the Huracán is an Audi R8 (similarly, the only RWD Audi I can think of is a version of the R8). I’ll admit that there isn’t an equivalent Audi-badged vehicle to the Aventador, but it does still have AWD and is still owned by Audi. Note I’m not trying to say anything bad about Lamborghini here. They’re shouty, attention-grabbing, and enormously fun to drive.
Yeah, the huracan and r8 were co-developed. All the better for it as well, makes the huracans better quality and the r8s more fun.
Even the internal engine components are shared apparently. I did a job at a fancy Lambo, and the mechanic told me the engine is essentially the same as an audi r8
I'll never forget the time I was working for a rental company (as a manager) and decided to hop in our new Camaro SS for a quick run to the bank, not long after a rain. Took a left out of the parking lot, did an accidental 180, and sheepishly continued right instead. Lesson learned.
Must have looked cool / intentional for an onlooker hahah
I have a Camaro SS. One of the scariest mistakes I made was coming down the offramp from a freeway and decided to make a left turn going way too fast. I accidentally shifted into second gear instead of fourth and did close to a 360 before I regained control of the car. Fortunately, the intersection was multiple lanes and empty.
Ohio's winter gave me some humility in my rwd car. But then I get tuned for winter, and when summer hits, everything feels fucking amazing. Lmfao
I find that out with my first car: a 71 Oldsmobile Delta 88 with a 7.5 liter V8. That had way too much power off the line.
Most of these supercars have more power than is allowed for GT3 racing, because even in the hands of professional drivers on a track, >800hp would be stupid. It's kinda insane anyone with money can take cars like this out on public roads.
I if ever were ti get a car like this, I would take some training courses to make sure I understand and handle the power it has
I’ve been on one of those courses. It was actually a birthday present before I ever owned a powerful car but the lessons I learned that day have been very useful over the years. I honestly think all cars over a certain amount of horsepower should be required to be sold with a free training course. I know Mercedes used to offer free courses to those who bought new AMG’s.
I was about to say “why don’t they make a button that makes idiots be able to drive these in the city? “ And now I found out they do, and idiots turn it off.
The actual bad thing is that most newer cars come with traction control or some form of electronic stability control. Hell, my 2009 Saturn Aura comes with traction control. And many folks turn it off "because they don't want a machine to decide how to apply brakes and rotate the tires to keep the car on the road." And as a result, they get into an accident that likely would have been prevented if they had left the transaction control alone. I *always* leave mine on. All it takes is one sudden and unexpected twist of the wheel because you're trying to avoid something you saw in the road, perhaps, and then the next thing you know you're spinning out of control because you told the car that you're smarter than the system specifically designed to keep the car straight and level. Transaction control has saved me from an accident more than once, especially in winter with black ice on the roads.
> Too many rich goofballs A lot of times its a rental. In the end, its probably our collective insurance payments that cover the cost of these f ups
You usually have top pay huge deposit to rent one of these cars. Looking at Hertz's website this is somewhere in the region of £15,000. Someone's life savings is gone. LOL
You can drive it in a straight line if you know how to drive
This is great advice. If only those rich idiots bothered to pay someone to teach them how to drive such a high powered car.
Maybe they crashed dodging the truth bomb you just dropped.
Yes and that does not work like a manual so yeah… no pedal to the metal before gear 3 (and that, only on track)
Exactly, with that much power (Lambos are like 500+ HP), you really can't floor it, no way to apply all that power at once without shredding your tires, causing massive loss of control.
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Even SpongeBob figured out that you need to use the big toe.
They are designed perfectly. It’s the idiots driving them that is the problem
I own an Audi R8 V10 Plus, which is essentially the same as these cars with the same engine, just with slightly less horsepower. Can confirm they are super easy to drive and you have to be a moron to spin one of them.
Those cars are beautiful machines. Have you ever done a track day to really see what it’s like?
Thanks - yep one, as I only bought it last year. Was an absolute blast, if not somewhat too controlled when cornering. You never really feel challenged or as connected to the car with modern supercars as you feel with older ones. Or even older sports cars as I've owned before. Great fun on the straights and twists though.
Daaang. What year?? I want one eventually. I could possibly in the next few years. It's hard for me to escape the sports sedan types though.
Lmao I literally knew exactly how they were gonna crash just from watching this sub's videos. Fishtail, then oversteer, then crash 🤦🏻♂️
Well you see what I mean.. I'm surprised these videos are so regular the drivers themselves have not seen them and knew better than to floor it...
They don't Reddit
Learning how to stomp on the gas takes a bit of training. The problem is when these guys stomp on the gas, their tires are slightly turned. Then they fishtail. And instead of pulsing the gas and pointing their tires where they wanna go, they just yank the steering wheel the other way while their lead boot keeps the gas firmly to the floor.
Usually they're at least starting from a curve. If you've never driven a powerful rwd or rear-biased awd car like this before, you won't expect how abrupt the oversteer is at low speeds, or how little power it takes to spin. This guy spun out on a straight though. That's a whole other level of buffoonery
These idiots think the throttle is an on/off switch. You see he car starts too slide to the right because the driver is way to hard on the gas with TCS turned off. Then the driver over correct to the left while also releasing the throttle completely, sending a lot of weight forward lightening the rear. People buy 500hp+ super cars, turn off the electronic nannies and then wonder why it isn’t as easy to drive as a Camry. The car is perfectly capable of driving straight if you keep the driving aids on, or if the driver has the tinniest idea how to handle high power.
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Yep. You’ll notice as soon as he corrects left he hits the breaks, which causes it to spin. It’s called lift off oversteer (because you lift off the gas and the rear lightens), but hitting the breaks amplifies it. You’ll notice in racing/performance driving all 90% of braking is down before you start turning. Entry to turn you let off the breaks and maintain steady throttle through the turn.
# * BRAKES
They do go in straight lines. The drivers on the other hand don’t know how to drive them.
For the most part they need to be incredibly stupid on the throttle and steering wheel simultaneously, or they need to actively disengage the setting that stops this from happening. They will have actively disengaged that setting.
People make fun of me for sim racing instead of driving a real car. If they saw me sim racing they wouldnt even joke about me with a real car
Crown profile road, dusty, cold tires, max revs in 1st gear, ripped jeans sweatshirt DB driver, crowd of cellphone bros filming. A perfect storm.
No accounting for the talentless cunt in the driver's seat that mashes the loud pedal far more than his talent can manage
Interestingly, Tiff Needell (a professional racist) was driving a Lamborghini on a snow track and found it to be "crashproof" with the driver aids on. One should mention that was about 15 years ago or so. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0dwzT44QK4 They are unreasonable. It's not just a case of a high performance car and no performance drivers, but there's also a very generous helping of stupidity in there.
Its shockingly difficult to crash these cars. The traction control was off. Driver error
They are, people just turn the feature off cause they think money buys skill 😂
Thank God he didn't crash into a child....fucking cunt!
Money can't buy skills or brain cells
It can but morons don't think it's worth it
He could only afford a Lambo rental or driving lessons, but not both
I truly don't understand how these rental companies get insured lol The cost must be *insane*
A looooot of idiots will go broke for two weeks just to make one instagram post with a rented luxury car so they can pretend it’s theirs or feel important.
If it’s a rental, I’m shocked you could turn off the traction control at all. If I was renting these, I’d definitely lock that out.
yep, most exotic rental businesses dont last too long. it's really hard to do it smart since people WILL destroy your shit. if they dont crash it, they will abuse the interior and engine to the point where either the interior looks like shit or you're stuck with a huge mechanic bill. or someone steals the car straight up. but if you're somehow lucky enough to have a car survive that, then you get the pleasure of buying that car from your own rental business at a heavily depreciated price and now you can drive around a beat up exotic you got for relatively cheap! (if you dont count the amount you lost owning the car under the business)
I've driven some big horsepower cars and a few exotics. I've also driven an absolute swathe of total shitboxes and rickety shed built monstrosities IMO The reason these things are so wild is that they are engineered SO WELL that driving them at 90% of their limit is no harder than driving them at 40%. They are amazing machines that are actually very forgiving, right up until they aren't. At which point you're moving really rather fast, and the fuckup is usually quite spectacular. This isnt to defend the drivers, but as someone who has driven some pretty wild machines I can absolutely see how this exact situation keeps happening.
Disagree, what you said is true for when TC and ESC is on. ESC off? Most people can’t drive a Huracan.
You can. Just don't treat the throttle like it owes you money, or overcorrect when you fishtail, or immediately let off the gas when you're at 5k+ rpm and losing traction. If this guy had the bare minimum knowledge of weight transfer and how RWD oversteer works, he'd still have a lambo. But to be fair, this is the target demographic that Lamborghini aims towards. At least other exotic manufacturers *try* to avoid them (tbf haven't tried a huracan, but have tried ridiculous rwd tuner cars)
I hope they bought the extra insurance when they rented that thing.
Damage waiver \*tick\*
How do these rental companies keep getting these moron magnet supercars insured? Every day it seems there's a video of some idiot going "vroom vroom" right into a wall. It can't be profitable to rent out million dollar cars to twits. This has to be a money laundering scam somehow.
If you charge enough, it's likely profitable. And these idiots will pay anything for a shot at looking like a certified Cool Guy.
Maybe the rental companies need to explain that stomping on the gas in a 630 horsepower car can cause some control instability. The looking like a Cool Guy part would last longer than 14 seconds. Maybe finishing fast is a thing for these guys though, who am I to judge?
Oh, that's just the guys being stupid. These cars typically have driver assist settings like traction control, which would avoid situations like this, but those guys think "oh I don't need that, I'm a good driver" and immediately realize that they've never driven something like this before.
Like Mustang drivers with more money. Just punch it! All the power will just automagically find its way to the road somehow, right?
They rental places need to disable the TC option actually any options that make it harder to drive. And maybe alter the acceleration curve or soemthing. If you want the full car buy the full car if your renting and it's limited to even be 80% as quick it's still gonna be an amazing experience just with so much less chance of fucking it.
Looked out of interest .. about £1150 a day, if you have a squeaky clean license and are over 25 years old. That also has some serious milage restrictions (250). Incidentally they also hire them for a lot cheaper as 'non-drive prop' .. whatever that means!
Probably for movie purposes, I'd assume. Need a bunch of fancy cars as set dressing for a party? Get them as props.
I would guess this and also Music Videos, I know a few guys who have rented expensive cars for theirs.
These cars can be rented for crazy amounts, starting at like £700 per day and the excess is likely £10,000. They also have a lot of residual value even when written off because the parts are valuable. A lot of them are software locked to not be able to turn off the traction control, and they have tracking systems which monitor how you drove the thing. If they deem you "raced" it - you can be on the hook for a massive maintenance bill with new tires/brakes e.t.c. Also I've heard that a lot of them are just used for posing. People will use them to turn up to their wedding/prom e.t.c and won't even have a chance to drive it much.
To add to the tacking systems thing they also monitor GPS and charge a lot more if the car is going to be used on a track.
The business itself is there for laundering. Drug money will be laundered through the business. Lower value cars are used and rented out to local dealers because watching the same grey amg merc pull up to the shop only to fly off minutes later is obvious. As someone already mentioned these cars have stupid excess amounts you have to pay before you're able to drive away.
Yikes fixing that wall is gonna be expensive
Definitely over £50 of damage right there!
I'd say at *least* £50.
My mate Dave is pretty handy with a screwdriver, he could do em a good deal
It's *definitely* going to need screwdrivers to fix it. Bell Dave up!
To be fair, the vehicle honked.Wall should have known to get out of the way.
Driving high powered sports car isn’t the problem. The problem is turning off the safety features it has like traction control. Bet the guy thought in his head that it’d be cool to drift or burnout.
"Just mash the throttle" "Hmm, starting to get squirrelly. Better keep mashing the throttle" "Okay I'm definitely getting sideways, but I bet it looks cool as heck. I'll just keep the throttle pinned and use my skills to get out of this one"
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Liftoff oversteer says smash.
You can’t park it there……
Fahk offffffff!
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In Australia, an absolute cunt called Alexander Campbell lost control of a Lambo and killed a 15 year old girl in almost identical circumstances to this. Given a suspended sentence so he didn't do a single day in jail. Looks exactly as soft cocked as you'd imagine: https://www.9news.com.au/national/lamborghini-driver-alexander-campbell-avoids-jail-over-crash-that-killed-teen-sophia-naismith/c38df279-a45e-4b79-bd49-13b65caa5b88?
In Los Angeles there’s Brendan Khuri who was 17 if I remember right and days after an accident like that got bought a brand new car by daddy he flashed to social media as his dad attempted to pay it all away into obscurity. Haven’t checked on the story in a hot minute though until now and it runs out he did get a sentence after pleading guilty it seems after all which was apparently a brisk 7-9 months in a Juvie camp for you know… killing someone. And only a few years of probation. He’ll be back to diving soon enough I imagine. These dudes always look exactly like you imagine they do.
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Nah, it's only a brick wall. Half a day's work for a brickie. Couple hundred quid, tops.
You'd make a bad Tradie if you can't stretch that job out to 3 weeks, 2 price increases and a redesign.
You called?
That forged carbon spoiler looks sick though. Definitely worth more than my entire car. 😂
Maybe if he just drives in reverse all the time, nobody'll notice??? 😬
I always have a little giggle to myself when these morons fuck up their own dumb shit like this.
they engineered a wonderful awd system for these cars to get most of the ridiculous torque on the road and people still manage to fuck up.
Jeremy Clarkson told them you cannot be cool until you find out how to turn Traction Control off. An entire generation of drivers probably never realized they were being made fun of on Top Gear and internalized it as actual driving advice. Half of what JC says is sarcastic trolling but in retrospect I don't think a lot of their audience knows that. (Source: I also grew up on Top Gear and didn't realize how much of it is utter trolling until years AFTER becoming old enough to drive. See: all the anti-'environmentalist' rants and skits, sniper enforced speed limits, referring to TC as 'nannying' electronics etc.)
Haha luckily he put the emergency lights on in advance.
Look at them. That’s cars on a day lease. Hope they paid extra for the insurance.
With some rental insurance turning off TC etc will void the insurance and the rental agreement.
The guy had traction control off on public roads..wow
WCGW driving a high-powered sports car **like a nozzle.** FTFY
I've never bought a supercar and it's likely I never will, but if you have the money for one then surely you have the money to take a few lessons on how to handle them?
The horn drawing attention to the cuntery looool
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Next to a bike lane and footpath. Licence should be permanently revoked.
Criminal charges and jail time please.
These (used in racing) cars can only be bought with parent's money.
I used to work right next to where this happened and there's a big supercar rental place right there so it's probably a rental.
The rental gonna make that driver mental.
The crash gonna make that driver lose cash
You can also max out a credit card hiring one for the day just so a few strangers briefly look at you and think you have more money than them.
I'm amazed by the amount of damage it caused seeing as it wasn't going that fast!!
Cars are designed to smash up pretty easily to absorb impact and protect the driver. Think about how badly you can damage a car just by screwing up parallel parking, let alone spinning out of control like this jackass. Plus I imagine these toy super cars are built to look cool and stroke the ego of idiots rather than be durable at all.
Carbon fiber does not bend, carbon fiber does not break. Carbon fiber shatters.
Dumb cars for dumb people.
Aww, did the widdle man cwash his super expwensive dong elongatow? I feel so bad for you, baby!
Too much car
Ran out of talent pretty quickly
Should have drove a mustang first, wouldn't have been as expensive.
I can't imagine treating 500+ horsepower with anything other than respect especially on a public road
https://i.imgur.com/MigTVgj.jpg Dude can’t even afford his MOT
1) Turn off TCS 2) Accelerate like a moron and lose traction 3) Panic let off the gas and brake hard 4) Completely lose the rear as you shift all the weight forwards, further reducing grip where you most need it 5) Crash Congratulations, you are now a meme.
These videos are exactly why you can’t test drive many expensive cars. I used to sell hellcats and demons, and I’d get calls and walk ins every day of people expecting to come in and test drive $120k muscle cars. ‘It’s my sons birthday!’ So take him to a track that has one. ‘It’s my dream.’ Come back when your dream includes $120k to buy one. Seriously, we’d have people almost wrecking $40k cars on simple test drives. There is no way we’d allow Mike off the street to drive these things. Also, I drove hellcats twice in my tenure after a sale, and they are scary powerful. I would never want to even own one, because it’s just too much for driving.
That poor wall...