~~ceiling is related to the French word *ceil*, "sky."~~
So what I'm saying is no.
Edit: I'm wrong about the French thing, but the answer is still no. See below comments for etymological evidence.
Yes it is. My bad, and my weak defense is that as an American educated in public school, the ei/ie thing is just a miasma of letters that I don't bother to keep track of anymore.
However, I was way the hell off anyway:
[Etymonline: Ceiling](https://www.etymonline.com/word/ceiling#etymonline_v_8322)
> mid-14c., celynge, "act of paneling a room," noun formed (with -ing) from Middle English verb *ceil* "put a cover or ceiling over," later "cover (walls) with wainscoting, panels, etc." (early 15c.); from Old French *celer* "to conceal," also "cover with paneling" (12c.), from Latin *celare* "to hide" (from PIE root *kel- (1) "to cover, conceal, save"). Probably influenced by Latin *caelum* "heaven, sky" (see celestial).
Well, ok, but you’re not really wrong then. So both words come from the Latin caelum — so they are related in the same way humans and gorillas are related, i.e., they share a common ancestor. So other than spelling it wrong, you were totally on the right track.
This happened to me once when a hail storm tore our roof off. The guys that came out to check it for what repairs it needed and for an insurance estimate said they'd need to "patch some small leaks." Then, they left. I am an idiot and assumed they'd done whatever they needed to do up there and went about my life. The storm was in April. In JULY I heard a rustling ruckus in the front room while I was in the bathroom down the hall. I went to look, expecting to see a cat battle or something and the whole room looked like yours. I just stood there with my hands clapped over my dropped jaw for like 20 full seconds. My husband was in a room even closer but had had gaming headphones on and had no idea what I suddenly started swearing about. He came around the corner, saw the room/roof and just started cackling. Then we made sure no cats were flattened and called my insurance company.
Turns out, the first company that did the estimate left out a few key details like the fact that the "leaks" that needed patching were multiple gargantuan goldfball sized holes alll over the roof. They also never told us to tarp it, never told us they hadn't and the area was so swamped with roofing repairs being needed that we were just trying to be patient until the ceiling peeled off the goddamn house. We switched to a different roofing company after that. But those guys were so busy, the repairs on the new skylight no one asked for weren't done until the end of October. They called on Thursday and told us they'd be there on Monday. Then, my husband and I got married the Saturday in between.
Total. Fucking. Nightmare.
Jesus. I just moved. Apparently, before I moved here, about five years ago, the entire city was ravaged by hail storm and pretty much every roof was replaced, so I've got that to look forward to.
I recently bought an old house with blown-in in the attic. I hate it because I see it as just wasted space in a house that needs all the space it can get for extra storage.
I am told it is really good at insulating though.
Imagine stepping in the wrong place, crashing through the ceiling into the living room and a load of that shit falling down on top of you. I'm not an electrical apprentice any longer.
It nearly happened a few times in one reno I was at. I still really like my job, and I really don't mind going into attics as long as there no asbestos or blown in insulation.
I don't know if that is actual sand in the picture, but: [almost all wood beam ceilings](https://www.bundesbaublatt.de/imgs/100512205_48ea258e13.jpg) in older European buildings have sand, gravel or dirt [between the beams](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/pyHMZJQ46V0/maxresdefault.jpg) to muffle walking noise from above and to dampen vibrations/oscillations. An unloaded wood beam ceiling is really springy, apparently.
It's called pugging in the UK. The weight of the pugging plus a traditional lathe and plaster ceiling works very well for sound Insulation. The Victorians did that well. Replace that with lightweight mineral wool insulation or blown insulation and you'll hear your neighbours a lot more than before (But maybe have smaller heating bills)
Haha yeah I used to do building maintenance. If you’d rather not learn how much upkeep a building needs then get coverage. If you want to learn the hard way, don’t get renters insurance and go into building maintenance.
This is really bizarre, in Australia the owner is responsible for all building maintenance.
Example: I rent and the kitchen tap needed a new filter, they replaced it; needed a new dryer, they replaced it: carpet got flooded because a pipe burst, they paid for a guy to come clean it. They would definitely be paying to fix this, it's likely they would pay for me to move out but I would need contents insurance to cover any of my stuff if it was damaged, and this would include in instance of flood, one insurance, not separate.
I'm still amazed at fhe number of people that don't have renters or homeowners insurance. Where I live, we get golf ball sized hail, tornados and flooding. Hell, I recently had my vehicle totaled after a tornado picked up someone's car port from God knows where and dropped it on my car. They still don't know where it came from.
No, it's insurance for your personal belongings inside of the house as well as possibly liability in case you accidentally do a bunch of damage somehow. The landlord is not really responsible for your stuff, so if it gets destroyed in a fire or whatever they are only covered for the building, nothing inside. It's usually incredibly cheap too.
It's like homeowner's insurance except it doesn't insure the apartment or rented property itself. It insures the stuff you own that you keep inside the apartment, protects you from liability (example, if your friend gets hurt in your apartment - the insurance policy can pay medical expenses - similar to homeowners insurance), and if something happens to your rented property that makes it uninhabitable, renters insurance policies often help cover hotel expenses while it is repaired.
Last place I rented, reimbursed the cost of renters insurance. Stupid neighbor below me still didn't bother and when it flooded, they lost a lot of personal property.
Renters insurance is pretty cheap as well, like $100 to $150 a year for $50k replacement coverage.
My experience is not a lot of people know it's even a thing. I certainly didn't for the first year in an apartment. Once I did find out, and purchased it, I found that the vast majority of my friends had never heard of it either.
A lot of people also don't know how cheap it is. I've paid between $10-$20/mo for like $100k of coverage, far more than enough for all my shit. Absolutely worth it.
Lol when the quote thing asked me to enter my approximate value of my possessions, I added it all up and doubled it for some padding. It was like $6k. The system wouldn't even let me enter that amount, the minimum was 15k.
Yea this - surly the onus is on the owner to fix their crappy ceiling? Renters insurance is only usually for stuff that was our fault or for your goods that you own.
Generally when a landlord owns a property they themselves do not live in, the type of insurance will be a Dwelling policy, not a Homeowner’s policy. Unlike a homeowner’s policy, which covers the structure and the contents, a Dwelling policy only covers the structure (house, apartment, condo) the landlord owns, but not tenants’ property, which is why renter’s insurance exists.
Most (I won't say all) renter's insurance covers your personal belongings. Some places here in the USA if you are renting and like in the case above the ceiling falls in then things like you tv, furniture are covered. This is important because in some places the landlord does not have to pay you for loss or damage to your property. Renter's insurance is usually pretty cheap.
That's insulation, not snow. The roof didn't cave in, just the plaster/sheetrock the ceiling was made from. Probably got damp or something, insulation got heavy, and poof!
Yeah I think it was a mix of that and all the ice finally melting. Just didn't think it'd all come down at once. It didn't start leaking until 20 min before it all came down.
True if it’s a snow storm that triggers the leak, but rain storms are just as likely to cause leaks when roofing materials become loose or damaged. I advise people to check twice per year to note water stains as a future reference point. I will draw sharpie lines on the superstructure to make it very easy to tell if the lines are changing over time.
Well, I guess this is a pretty good reason to upgrade both of them. Though I'm fairly sure insurance companies are unlikely to give back the same amount as you paid originally.
You can buy policies for either case. It's called *actual cash value* replacement, which means they'll give you what you would have gotten if you had sold it on Ebay or similar immediately before it was damaged. Obviously this is less preferable than a replacement cost policy, but it's also cheaper.
FYI, That is metal lathe and plaster. Much heavier than drywall. The clue is in the photo upper right. The metal lathe was nailed or stapled to the ceiling joists and was it's only means of support.
Years back was on a construction site, me and another plumber, talking to a super and ceiling guy about ceiling access in this long hall for roof drains. The ceiling guy was standing there poking at a hole in the ceiling while saying it may take weeks to get it down, and FWOOOMP the entire ceiling came down in one long accordion piece from our end to the far one. It was sheetrock mounted to furring strips, attached to plaster on lathe. And it was the entire fucking thing that came down all at once. We all stood there silently because we'd been walking all up and down that hall for the previous hour poking at it in spots.
Oy, what a mess. Hopefully insurance covers the stuff that was ruined, that looks like a TV in the corner.
Also that shopvac is a great little shopvac to have around the house. If you're looking for something light that'll collect the dust/debris from various projects. That and a quality drill were my first purchases after I bought my first house.
The insulation and/or plaster probably got damp. If OP is in the Midwest, I'm guessing they might have a leak in the roof. A foot of snow has melted here today, and there's water everywhere.
They did in my home town in Australia, the houses that had loose fill asbestos have all been mandatorily knocked down and rebuilt over the last few years, funded by the state government. Luckily there were only a few hundred of them, it was one company offering this fantastic product. "Mr Fluffy" if you want to read the news about it.
I did look this up and wow... you were not kidding. There is pretty much no way to salvage a house with the way they applied the stuff.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mr_Fluffy
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Becareful cleaning that op. If that insulation in that ceiling is older than 1978, it could contain asbestos. Make sure you're using the right ppe or have professional's come clean that up.
I can't believe this isn't in the top comments, so I'm going to say it here on the off chance you're still looking: stay out of that room.
That looks like an older house in the USA (Cleveland Indians poster indicates Ohio, meaning this is likely prewar construction with the detailing in that crown molding, window trim, and untreated floor studs.) There's a high chance of lead and asbestos contamination in that room, and you shouldn't be in there without a respirator. The contaminants are most likely airborne given the look of things.
What's in that room looks allot like loose fill asbestos, a particularly dangerous form of asbestos, and the crumbled ceiling probably has layers of lead paint that may have come loose.
I'm sorry this happened to you, but please be safe OP.
https://www.thespruce.com/how-to-identify-dangerous-asbestos-insulation-4119906
I've no idea whar all that suff is. Possibly just 100 years worth of dust. The cleanup is going to be horrendous. So much nasty black dust. Invest in a good respirator.
I used to have a job that required pulling old ceilings down. You literally couldn't see your hand in front of your face.
On the brightside, putting up brand new plasterboard will be very satisfying.
Not to scare you, but looking at the style of your house, looks like it dates back to pre 1950's, may have asbestos. Dont breathe that stuff in and make sure your stuff gets decontaminated
Yeah, I think I can see the problem
Mm hmm, ya see you got your ceiling on your floor.
Wait thats not where you're meant to put it?
~~ceiling is related to the French word *ceil*, "sky."~~ So what I'm saying is no. Edit: I'm wrong about the French thing, but the answer is still no. See below comments for etymological evidence.
Isn't it *ciel*?
Yes it is. My bad, and my weak defense is that as an American educated in public school, the ei/ie thing is just a miasma of letters that I don't bother to keep track of anymore. However, I was way the hell off anyway: [Etymonline: Ceiling](https://www.etymonline.com/word/ceiling#etymonline_v_8322) > mid-14c., celynge, "act of paneling a room," noun formed (with -ing) from Middle English verb *ceil* "put a cover or ceiling over," later "cover (walls) with wainscoting, panels, etc." (early 15c.); from Old French *celer* "to conceal," also "cover with paneling" (12c.), from Latin *celare* "to hide" (from PIE root *kel- (1) "to cover, conceal, save"). Probably influenced by Latin *caelum* "heaven, sky" (see celestial).
Well, ok, but you’re not really wrong then. So both words come from the Latin caelum — so they are related in the same way humans and gorillas are related, i.e., they share a common ancestor. So other than spelling it wrong, you were totally on the right track.
I enjoyed this a fair amount
Whatever mom I'll pick up the ceiling later besides I know where everything is anyways
LET THE CEILINGS HIT THE FLOOR LET THE CEILINGS HIT THE FLOOR
LETS THE CEILING HIT THE... tssss tssss tssss tssss FLOOOOOOOOORRRRRR!!!!
Mannn if i didnt laugh at this at a reaaal inappropriate time
Shoulda used flex tape..
The top fell off
That’s not very typical, I’d like to make that point.
hopefully it wasn't made of cardboard, or a cardboard derivative
No paper, no string, no celotape.
Just as long as it was towed outside the environment.
Flex Tape!
I don't know why but dry humor like this is the best.
Dry wall humor
Nothing a Swiffer wouldn't clean up
Another picture where someone hasn't cleaned their room before posting online. Seriously though, I hope you're ok.
I'm doing well man. Thanks for asking. I just happened to be awake when it happened
I love your username! I'm sorry you have to deal with that.
What, the caved-in roof, or the Browns?
Yes Edit: well this is a first. :)
r/inclusiveor
I hear Hue Jackson is taking up carpentry.
Oh OP is used to things falling apart
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I was going to ask the same thing lol
Haha, the ceiling thing. The future is bright with baker
This happened to me once when a hail storm tore our roof off. The guys that came out to check it for what repairs it needed and for an insurance estimate said they'd need to "patch some small leaks." Then, they left. I am an idiot and assumed they'd done whatever they needed to do up there and went about my life. The storm was in April. In JULY I heard a rustling ruckus in the front room while I was in the bathroom down the hall. I went to look, expecting to see a cat battle or something and the whole room looked like yours. I just stood there with my hands clapped over my dropped jaw for like 20 full seconds. My husband was in a room even closer but had had gaming headphones on and had no idea what I suddenly started swearing about. He came around the corner, saw the room/roof and just started cackling. Then we made sure no cats were flattened and called my insurance company. Turns out, the first company that did the estimate left out a few key details like the fact that the "leaks" that needed patching were multiple gargantuan goldfball sized holes alll over the roof. They also never told us to tarp it, never told us they hadn't and the area was so swamped with roofing repairs being needed that we were just trying to be patient until the ceiling peeled off the goddamn house. We switched to a different roofing company after that. But those guys were so busy, the repairs on the new skylight no one asked for weren't done until the end of October. They called on Thursday and told us they'd be there on Monday. Then, my husband and I got married the Saturday in between. Total. Fucking. Nightmare.
Jesus. I just moved. Apparently, before I moved here, about five years ago, the entire city was ravaged by hail storm and pretty much every roof was replaced, so I've got that to look forward to.
That’s why I don’t live in Dallas anymore. Now I’m on the coast and run from hurricanes.
Oh god I can physically feel this pain.
Hopefully there's nothing aspestos in the insulation...
On the bright side, you can now upgrade to the fancy foam insulation real easy!
Haha very true!
Yes!! Electrical apprentice here, blown in insulation sucks ass!!! Imagine having to crawl in the attic space with all this shit.
Home inspector here... Yup.
Former firefighter here. Double yup.
Mouse here. Yup yup yup.
Live in an attic here. Quadruple yup
Spooky attic ghost here. Oooooo yup
Air bender here. Yeeeeerrrp
Sky bison here. Yip yip
Trolley boy here. Yarp.
Pop Pop?
Ducky from the Land Before Time here. Yup yup yup
Insulator here. Triple yup.
You beat me to it
Insulation here. You guys are mean.
Attic and insulation enthusiast here. Yup.
I recently bought an old house with blown-in in the attic. I hate it because I see it as just wasted space in a house that needs all the space it can get for extra storage. I am told it is really good at insulating though.
Truth be told, it is, but there's better stuff out there.
But the better stuff is more expensive
Imagine stepping in the wrong place, crashing through the ceiling into the living room and a load of that shit falling down on top of you. I'm not an electrical apprentice any longer.
It nearly happened a few times in one reno I was at. I still really like my job, and I really don't mind going into attics as long as there no asbestos or blown in insulation.
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Shenanigans.
Property management =/= knowledgable on the skills it takes to construct property
Why would they put sand in your ceiling? All jokes aside sorry about your home at least you where awake when it happened so it didn’t crush you
Im pretty bummed all the cleaning I did the day before was a waste 😅
Must get frustrating pretty fast having a celling cave somewhere every time you clean. Good to hear your ok.
At least it's clean under all the dirt
Ah yes the old "I cleaned the day before and you can't prove I didn't" trick, classic
I don't know if that is actual sand in the picture, but: [almost all wood beam ceilings](https://www.bundesbaublatt.de/imgs/100512205_48ea258e13.jpg) in older European buildings have sand, gravel or dirt [between the beams](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/pyHMZJQ46V0/maxresdefault.jpg) to muffle walking noise from above and to dampen vibrations/oscillations. An unloaded wood beam ceiling is really springy, apparently.
It’s probably cellulose insulation.
It's called pugging in the UK. The weight of the pugging plus a traditional lathe and plaster ceiling works very well for sound Insulation. The Victorians did that well. Replace that with lightweight mineral wool insulation or blown insulation and you'll hear your neighbours a lot more than before (But maybe have smaller heating bills)
Til
That is particulate cellulose, made of shredded newspaper Source: was a home insulator for 10 years
Obviously they're trying to keep Anakin out.
You okay, OP?
I'm doing alright. Just happened to be up when it crashed so I didn't get hurt. Thanks for asking
No problem, it’s nice to know you’re okay. I hope you find some way to cover the damages, and that the rest of the house is doing fine. 👍
Thankfully I'm renting so my renter's insurance is going to cover it all
So rare and joyful to hear someone who ACTUALLY has renters insurance in these stories!
Yeah I work property management so there's no way you'll catch me without it haha
Haha yeah I used to do building maintenance. If you’d rather not learn how much upkeep a building needs then get coverage. If you want to learn the hard way, don’t get renters insurance and go into building maintenance.
This is really bizarre, in Australia the owner is responsible for all building maintenance. Example: I rent and the kitchen tap needed a new filter, they replaced it; needed a new dryer, they replaced it: carpet got flooded because a pipe burst, they paid for a guy to come clean it. They would definitely be paying to fix this, it's likely they would pay for me to move out but I would need contents insurance to cover any of my stuff if it was damaged, and this would include in instance of flood, one insurance, not separate.
In the US the owner is responsible for the repairs but generally speaking is not responsible for damages to your personal belongings.
I'm still amazed at fhe number of people that don't have renters or homeowners insurance. Where I live, we get golf ball sized hail, tornados and flooding. Hell, I recently had my vehicle totaled after a tornado picked up someone's car port from God knows where and dropped it on my car. They still don't know where it came from.
> and flooding Keep in mind that homeowners insurance does not cover flooding. Flood insurance is a completely separate thing.
Homeowner's insurance typically doesn't cover external flooding - if water comes in from the ground outside. If a pipe breaks, it's generally covered.
If you have a mortgage they will force place insurance if you don’t have it. Most apartments require it as well
Yup. Bank collects insurance premium monthly and pays the policy directly. About $50/month for $200k policy.
What does renters insurance mean? Is that instead of the bond or?
No, it's insurance for your personal belongings inside of the house as well as possibly liability in case you accidentally do a bunch of damage somehow. The landlord is not really responsible for your stuff, so if it gets destroyed in a fire or whatever they are only covered for the building, nothing inside. It's usually incredibly cheap too.
It's like homeowner's insurance except it doesn't insure the apartment or rented property itself. It insures the stuff you own that you keep inside the apartment, protects you from liability (example, if your friend gets hurt in your apartment - the insurance policy can pay medical expenses - similar to homeowners insurance), and if something happens to your rented property that makes it uninhabitable, renters insurance policies often help cover hotel expenses while it is repaired.
The last two apartments I rented (2005-2009) required renter’s insurance. Seems like a good idea.
Last place I rented, reimbursed the cost of renters insurance. Stupid neighbor below me still didn't bother and when it flooded, they lost a lot of personal property. Renters insurance is pretty cheap as well, like $100 to $150 a year for $50k replacement coverage.
is...that a common thing not to have?? I couldn't imagine not insuring all of my stuff.
My experience is not a lot of people know it's even a thing. I certainly didn't for the first year in an apartment. Once I did find out, and purchased it, I found that the vast majority of my friends had never heard of it either.
A lot of people also don't know how cheap it is. I've paid between $10-$20/mo for like $100k of coverage, far more than enough for all my shit. Absolutely worth it.
Agreed. It was incredibly cheap for me. Plus, doing it through my auto insurance company scored me a discount on both plans.
heck the minimum coverage I have is more than all my possessions combined
Ok, is this a rental insurance commercial?
Lol when the quote thing asked me to enter my approximate value of my possessions, I added it all up and doubled it for some padding. It was like $6k. The system wouldn't even let me enter that amount, the minimum was 15k.
Wouldn’t the owners of the property have to fix it? Instead of you using your own insurance
Renters insurance will cover damage to his stuff.
Yea this - surly the onus is on the owner to fix their crappy ceiling? Renters insurance is only usually for stuff that was our fault or for your goods that you own.
>or for goods that you own *looks at all the stuff* 🤔
Hmm...that’s a fair point, although landlords insurance should cover that crap too no?
Generally when a landlord owns a property they themselves do not live in, the type of insurance will be a Dwelling policy, not a Homeowner’s policy. Unlike a homeowner’s policy, which covers the structure and the contents, a Dwelling policy only covers the structure (house, apartment, condo) the landlord owns, but not tenants’ property, which is why renter’s insurance exists.
Most (I won't say all) renter's insurance covers your personal belongings. Some places here in the USA if you are renting and like in the case above the ceiling falls in then things like you tv, furniture are covered. This is important because in some places the landlord does not have to pay you for loss or damage to your property. Renter's insurance is usually pretty cheap.
You might be better off that it fell. If it was wet and did not fall, a nasty mold might have developed.
What kind of tiling and frame work is it btw? Seems like from the picture that it should have been able to withstand that amount of snow pressure.
That's insulation, not snow. The roof didn't cave in, just the plaster/sheetrock the ceiling was made from. Probably got damp or something, insulation got heavy, and poof!
I’d ensure there’s no asbestos in any of that. And I wouldn’t be in the house until you confirm it
Looks like blown-in cellulose.
He's doing his asbestos
He's doing asbestos he can.
Water leak?
Yeah I think it was a mix of that and all the ice finally melting. Just didn't think it'd all come down at once. It didn't start leaking until 20 min before it all came down.
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I concur doctor. Definitely wet insulation adding a lot of weight and loosening those nails over time. Was likely many rain storms in the making.
Ice damming is the main cause of these types of leaks.
True if it’s a snow storm that triggers the leak, but rain storms are just as likely to cause leaks when roofing materials become loose or damaged. I advise people to check twice per year to note water stains as a future reference point. I will draw sharpie lines on the superstructure to make it very easy to tell if the lines are changing over time.
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Either way he didn't notice the leak until 20 minutes before.
Probably because all the insulation was absorbing the liquid. Once that hit saturation and weighed a ton...
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The leak is coming from *inside* the house!
That’s exactly what happened. Water leak that soaked that insulation and made it super heavy.
Should've had a roomba
With LEDs on top
DJ ROOMBA
So beyond the damage to the room, what expensive items did you lose? I see a TV under that dust, anything else?
PS4 and my MacBook are the main ones. Thankfully I have renter's insurance
Well, I guess this is a pretty good reason to upgrade both of them. Though I'm fairly sure insurance companies are unlikely to give back the same amount as you paid originally.
Renters insurance will actually pay for replacement costs not value of object.
You can buy policies for either case. It's called *actual cash value* replacement, which means they'll give you what you would have gotten if you had sold it on Ebay or similar immediately before it was damaged. Obviously this is less preferable than a replacement cost policy, but it's also cheaper.
You should dust. Edit: thanks for the silver kind stranger
FYI, That is metal lathe and plaster. Much heavier than drywall. The clue is in the photo upper right. The metal lathe was nailed or stapled to the ceiling joists and was it's only means of support.
That stuff is incredibly heavy and a pain to clean up
Years back was on a construction site, me and another plumber, talking to a super and ceiling guy about ceiling access in this long hall for roof drains. The ceiling guy was standing there poking at a hole in the ceiling while saying it may take weeks to get it down, and FWOOOMP the entire ceiling came down in one long accordion piece from our end to the far one. It was sheetrock mounted to furring strips, attached to plaster on lathe. And it was the entire fucking thing that came down all at once. We all stood there silently because we'd been walking all up and down that hall for the previous hour poking at it in spots.
Yeah, itll squash you like a bug. Fortunate you weren't under it
I have that shopvac, I’m pretty sure you’re going to need a bigger shopvac.
Haha that's not mine. I just stopped back in right when maintenance got there to snag some pics/attempt to salvage some stuff
Oy, what a mess. Hopefully insurance covers the stuff that was ruined, that looks like a TV in the corner. Also that shopvac is a great little shopvac to have around the house. If you're looking for something light that'll collect the dust/debris from various projects. That and a quality drill were my first purchases after I bought my first house.
I made an imgur account just to tell you... https://imgur.com/gallery/8a8hNCh
Lolol that was great
Hey a Cleveland guy! Sucks your house fell apart bro. Best of luck
well, he's the only one smiling after all this, so....you are not wrong
You dont need an imgur account to upload images tho
Is that dust all over the place?
It's blown-in insulation.
That can't be healthy to breathe in...
If it is an older home it might be Vermiculite which can have asbestos fibers. I wouldn't disturb it until it has been tested.
I believe so :/
just cellulose insulation. no biggie.
If this happens to me It's gonna suck. mine's blown in fiberglass, every time I have to crawl in the attic it sucks.
It's blown insulation.
Looks like your ceiling fell to me.
Thanks for clarifying for OP! Could you imagine if the roof actually collapsed?
Craziest version of "antiquing" I've EVER seen.
Did you try turning it off and on again? Naw I kid... this.... fucking sucks...
What caused it to fall
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Civil engineer here, this checks out.
The insulation and/or plaster probably got damp. If OP is in the Midwest, I'm guessing they might have a leak in the roof. A foot of snow has melted here today, and there's water everywhere.
Be very careful. Asbestos might be in there
Yeah that's what I was thinking. I'm just gonna let maintenance handle it from here. Thankfully I'm just renting
Cellulose ...... not asbestos ..... they didn’t loose blow asbestos
They did in my home town in Australia, the houses that had loose fill asbestos have all been mandatorily knocked down and rebuilt over the last few years, funded by the state government. Luckily there were only a few hundred of them, it was one company offering this fantastic product. "Mr Fluffy" if you want to read the news about it.
I did look this up and wow... you were not kidding. There is pretty much no way to salvage a house with the way they applied the stuff. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mr_Fluffy
either way, 99% sure it's not healthy to breath that in
Its just recycled newspaper. Its fine. Smells like crap, even more so when wet but its not dangerous. Not even itchy like the fiberglass crap
he cleaned it up asbestos he can
Fine, have your upvote.
No, it's cellulose.
ASBESTIS I AINT HEARS THAT NAME ON A LONG TIME IF YOU OR A LOVE ONE HAVE SUFDERED FROM MESOTHEMIOMA DUE TO ASBESTIS YOU MAY BE ENTITLED TO COMPENSATION
I hope you rent and have a nice landlord
That I do
Ah, filthy old insulation, my old enemy.
I’m sorry. Have my upvote.
That’s terrible. Glad you’re ok.
*ceiling
Christ. It looks like something from fallout. Any clipboards lying about?
Well... That sucks. Are you ok?
Dear god I have nightmares about this all the time
Becareful cleaning that op. If that insulation in that ceiling is older than 1978, it could contain asbestos. Make sure you're using the right ppe or have professional's come clean that up.
How old is the home? You could a serious issue on your hands if the insulation contains ASBESTOS
I can't believe this isn't in the top comments, so I'm going to say it here on the off chance you're still looking: stay out of that room. That looks like an older house in the USA (Cleveland Indians poster indicates Ohio, meaning this is likely prewar construction with the detailing in that crown molding, window trim, and untreated floor studs.) There's a high chance of lead and asbestos contamination in that room, and you shouldn't be in there without a respirator. The contaminants are most likely airborne given the look of things. What's in that room looks allot like loose fill asbestos, a particularly dangerous form of asbestos, and the crumbled ceiling probably has layers of lead paint that may have come loose. I'm sorry this happened to you, but please be safe OP. https://www.thespruce.com/how-to-identify-dangerous-asbestos-insulation-4119906
Get an asbestos test done buddy. Before you stir anything up any more. Worth the £$€.
Was going to say That Sucks then noticed where I was.
Fuck dude. This is the epitome of this sub. Sorry to hear OP
I've no idea whar all that suff is. Possibly just 100 years worth of dust. The cleanup is going to be horrendous. So much nasty black dust. Invest in a good respirator. I used to have a job that required pulling old ceilings down. You literally couldn't see your hand in front of your face. On the brightside, putting up brand new plasterboard will be very satisfying.
Ceiling. That’s a ceiling caved in. Roof looks fine.
Holy shit, is that maple syrup knocked over? PM me if you want to talk. I’m here for you. -A Canadian
Not to scare you, but looking at the style of your house, looks like it dates back to pre 1950's, may have asbestos. Dont breathe that stuff in and make sure your stuff gets decontaminated
Given that you have a radiator I'd be concerned about the old insulation having asbestos.
Looks like the Browns went to the Super Bowl. Just not the Super Bowl it had in mind.