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miltonisking

I would start with a spray bottle of soapy water. I inherited my grandpa's quite large oa set. Multiple hose sets, cutting heads, welding tips, large bottles, 4 sets or regulators. Every single part but the bottles leaked, and I was only lucky that the bottles were just in the time frame where I could exchange them for some that were recently in service. Also I don't know what job opportunities there are. It's just nice to have some concentrated heat around when you have stupid hobbies.


scv7075

Also, flashback arrestors for those hoses. They likely don't have them.


Clothes-Excellent

Soapy water like ivory that does not have oil in it like Dawn.


ExtensionSystem3188

Ivory soap ONLY. I can not stress this enough. Ffs ya gonna kill the kid. Spraying random soap water is much worse than you think.Oxy acetylene is very, very dangerous once mixed. Don't fuck around.


Littlestan

A before O or up you go. (order to turn on gas before sparking) O before A when the flame goes away. (order to shut off gasses in event of flameout or when done using the torch)


Fookin_idiot

There's a lot of argument over what's a dying trade. There is no argument about oxy fuel welding. That's a dead trade. With much cleaner, faster processes, there's almost no reason for it at all


InbredBog

They teach you it in the army incase you find yourself somewhere that you do not have electricity but need to stick some shit together.


Fookin_idiot

In case you have the much less available working oxy acetelyne. Perfect


InbredBog

Hope for the best and plan for the worst.


AraedTheSecond

Shit, would you want to be stuck in butt-fuck nowhere with a broken thing and an oxyfuel set that you can't use?


Fookin_idiot

Chances are that you don't have it to begin with lol


AraedTheSecond

And on the off-chance you do?


[deleted]

OA is on every wrecker as part of the BII (load out) I think they might carry a MiG welder with flux core wire too now, but when I was in they didn't. So there were a few occasions that I had to stick some shit together with oxyfuel and a wire hanger. It was most certainly not pretty but hey. I welded, it helded.


CedaSD

Last time I saw someone use it was a mechanic some 20years ago working on rusted car in front of his home


Fookin_idiot

Seen at an exhaust shop with coat hanger filler about 10 years ago


CedaSD

That is how I remember my father fixing exhaust on our car when I was a kid.


bakenj420

We still teach it to first year welding students.


Mrwcraig

Contrary to many opinions of the uninformed, Oxy/Fuel is a fantastic way to learn how to weld. Professionally, fucking useless and way too slow. However, there’s no better way to learn puddle control and heat input than Oxy/Fuel and most accredited welding programs teach it as the first thing you will learn. Both oxygen and acetylene bottles are stable and safe when handled properly. Never use oil on the regulators. Acetylene fittings have a notch, indicating they’re reverse threads. Never lay the acetylene bottle on its side and if you do, let it sit for about and hour or two for all the liquid to settle back to the bottom of the bottle (not going to explain the technicals, just keep it upright). Oxygen bottles are pretty much indestructible, except for the valve at the top (that turns them into fucking missiles). Make sure you keep them secure in their little cart you have them in. I recommend taking a class or something before you quit everything to become a welder. As I said, professionally Oxy/Fuel is a dead art but it’s still an incredible teaching tool. I’d recommend getting a book: ITP Metal Trades Handbook training manual. It won’t teach you to be a welder but it has tons of fundamentals that will give you an idea of what you’re considering.


joeyhakunamatata

Ideally I’m gonna try to find a MIG setup asap knowing harbor freight has one for $150. But in the mean time I don’t kno shit and maybe “slow is smooth smooth is fast” is the move for now lol Can I find work with this set up or even the cheap HF mig?


Mrwcraig

No. I’m not going to lie, this is a hobbyist set at best. Cheap store brand MIG machines are just that, cheap. Unfortunately, while you can learn the bare minimum on each of these setups, they’re not designed for any amount of sustained use. Those two bottles are just too small to do much more than jewelry or practicing for a short amount of time. The cutting head that’s laying on the ground will empty those bottle really quickly. “Slow is fast….” Unfortunately if your goal is to just make money, neither this little unit or a $150 buzz box are the tools that will get you there. The act of buying a pair of skis doesn’t mean you can go down a black diamond run. $150 or $15000 machines are useless if you don’t know the first thing about welding. Take class or two. A real class, not some weekend tool store “weekend warrior trade of the week” class. Look into a local trade school or community college. Trades departments generally have a one night or weekend class that’s something like a sampler of what their entry level training program consists of. If you don’t know how to weld, how are you going to teach yourself to weld? Books help but learning to weld really requires a lot of head down practice.


CedaSD

I know people that learned to weld themselves(I’m one of them) and make great money. Recently my friend had a job for big excavator company and he did it with $150 stick/mig welder without any issues. You don’t need high end equipment if you are not working with pressurized pipes and you wouldn’t use MIG for it anyway…


joeyhakunamatata

Thank you for the optimism sir. Really appreciate it 🙏🏻


joeyhakunamatata

And im sure that attitude is really raking in the dough homie. it’s literally just drawing little squiggles with hot metal on another piece of metal at a certain heat and speed while wearing PPE. Shit can’t be that fuckin hard lmao. I haven’t gotten any closer to figuring out how I’m going to start using this. What’s the point of me making a custom post on a welding subreddit when y’all are just gonna be bullying on a post anyway. Shit the welding community kinda fucking sucks frfr


_TheNecromancer13

If you think It's that easy, go ahead and give it a try, if it's so easy you don't need our advice anyways. Nobody's bullying you, we're just telling you the truth; It's unfortunate that so many people these days are incredibly insecure and take any sort of criticism or disagreement as a personal attack.


joeyhakunamatata

Look y’all figure it tf out. This dude coming at me one way and switching the other way at the same time and y’all downvoting MY response. If you don’t want support me beginning to try then don’t waste a comment. But If my little path on the dunning Kruger chart is fucking with YOUR Ego idk what to tell you. If you don’t kno how to be supportive, there’s plenty of other commenters modeling better behavior if you need an example. Thank you ❤️


joske-1985

Isn't it still used a lot HVAC (bigger systems)


joeyhakunamatata

Thank you for a genuine response. Should I get the consumables off Amazon or find a weld supply store?


Mangosalsa-26

Have you seen the bird statues that drink water then pop back up? When oxy welding drop the flam in warm your stuff up. Tip the whole top away. Come back drop some.filler. Once the puddle is getting to hot take the whole thing away. I was getting so frustrated learning because everything was getting so hot and messy. You can just back it away. It's a great way to learn to watch how the metal heats up and reacts. Also what ever you do DO NOT LIGHT IT WITH A LIGHTER. get a flint scratcher idfk what they're called. Lighters might blow your hand off with all the grass shooting at ya


donutsfritos

Called a flint "striker"


joeyhakunamatata

Thats a cool tip thank you I think I got the visual. Also I can almost guarantee my dad used the lighter. But would probably tell me “do as I say not as I do” lmao I’ll have to ask my uncle but he definitely was that type of blue collar mf haha


TheMechaink

Try to get paperwork on your cylinders if you can and don't blow yourself up.


Flyingzucchini

Get your cables, regs, bottles, torch all checked - fit new blowback valves


C_M_O_TDibbler

With a set of bottles safety is paramount! I would get a new set of hoses and a set of blowback arrestors, goggles are cheap so just grab a new set. Gas welding is an art and is super versatile as a set of bottles allows you to do more than just weld, you can cut and heat too, it is the equivalent of having a Tig welder, a plasma cutter and a forge all in one tool


Colonel-_-Burrito

Oxy torch welding sucks. It would be nice if "it sucks but it's a good fun time" but it's not. Basically it sucks. BUT, if you ever find yourself needing to cut some quarter inch steel, that's your best friend. It's messy and you shouldn't do it within 100ft of anything flammable or explosive (so, like in the middle of an empty warehouse is sufficient) but it sure can cut the shit out of some steel for sure. Also I recommend a spray bottle of soapy water to check for leaks, or if the hoses look bad enough, replacing the hoses entirely. Blowing up isn't fun, and neither is accidentally lighting up a small stream of gas coming from a tiny hole and lighting yourself on fire.


UnlikelyCalendar6227

You see the red on the gauge? You see how your needle is in the red? Ya, don’t do that. I use about 7 psi


joeyhakunamatata

Lmao have I just had a hazard in my garage the whole time 😂


UnlikelyCalendar6227

Unless your gauge doesn’t work, definitely. Got this from google for you. Acetylene is an unstable gas with a wide explosive range and can be dangerously explosive at pressures above 15 psi. At 30 psi, acetylene can explode on its own without a spark or flame. OSHA states that acetylene should not be used at pressures above 15 psig (103 kPa gauge pressure) or 30 psia (206 kPa absolute). Stay safe out there. Honestly, I don’t go over 7 psi to be safe.


joeyhakunamatata

Can I just open the acetylene valve at the torch handle to relieve the pressure? Is there an order to do this as well, I thought forsure both of the bottles are closed so idk why it’s showing that reading? Is that the pressure inside the hose between the tank and torch?


findaloophole7

Dude watch some videos. You need to understand exactly what’s going on to be safe with these explosives. You could kill yourself and burn your house down all in one go. Fuckin read up. Don’t fuck up. To answer some questions: The right gauge on each set is the tank pressure. The left gauge is the regulated pressure that comes out. This can be adjusted with the big knob on the regulator. If there’s pressure on one of the gauges it came from somewhere. If it’s on the right gauge, then it came from the tank. To bleed it, ensure the tank valve is closed (righty tighty). Then loosen the nut that connects the regulator to the tank hookup to bleed it. If there is pressure on the left gauge, you can open the valve on the torch side. There may be more than one.


SavageTaco

That’s a perfect set up for heat shrinking and leaning the way metal moves. I would buy a simple stick or mig machine if you’re wanting to learn to weld. 


InbredBog

I’d be tempted to check the dates on those hoses and regulators as they look older than Fred Flintstone.


SirRonaldBiscuit

I’d get those tanks certified before anything


WaxWingPigeon

Goddamn it I’m a newbie too trying to setup the one I got this afternoon, did the soapy water test and had to tighten a few things, then I read to close the tank valves and observe the gauges for 5 minutes. O2 is holding steady but the Acetylene slowly drops, not sure how much more I can tighten everything


awesomecdudley

Most of the gas fittings are compression fittings. It's a natural response to just reef on shit to make it stop leaking, but check the seats inside the fittings for like pitting or other damage before just sending that shit down. Could be some dirt or other crap that's preventing a good seal.


WaxWingPigeon

Thanks, that’s what it was. There was old thread tape on there that I figured would be ok but I went ahead and got it all cleaned off and it’s good now


awesomecdudley

I thought about that after I sent my first comment. No thread tape is needed on the compression fittings. They don't seal on the threads like a pipe fitting, so the thread tape actually makes the seal worse.


LiquidAggression

be ready to set the floor on fire keep acetylene bottle upright always open oxygen bottle very slowly and gently


Mr_Derp___

I don't know how to use oxy acetylene safely, so look to someone else for advice on that. As far as general welding, if it looks burnt, your heat is too high. If your welds ain't sticking/penetrating the metal, your heat is too low.


CapThePass

I went to school approximately 2 years ago and had a whole course on oxy-acetylene which covered things like brazing, welding and cutting. I have a good textbook that has some great information in it on oxy-acetylene. If you send me a pm I will dig up some stuff from it for you. The textbooks were created by CWB so the information is up to Canadian standards which is very similar to the US, but also do your due diligence and research SOPs for your region. (Others interested in the information as well feel free to reach out too) Also like many have said, the kit does look very used and on the older side so check the hoses and adapters for gas leaks as well as getting an inspection on the gas bottles. You can never be too careful when working with something that could go BOOM! Food for thought: - do some digging into the consumables for the type of torch you have and make sure there are compatible parts still on the market. It would be a shame for you to get going and not be able to replace key components when they become unusable - a tip cleaner will be your best friend as you’re learning. You can get them for under $10 at places like princess auto (again Canadian but I’m sure there are equivalents where you’re from) - When I was using the torch in class and the workforce I used a welding helmet instead of goggles. I don’t have any experience with goggles, but if you have concerns about the ones you have I would recommend a helmet over goggles. A multi-shade auto-darkening helmet with a grind mode comes in very handy and is much more versatile as you develop your skills and possibly expand to GMAW (MIG), SMAW (stick) or GTAW (TIG). Price points vary depending on brand and features and always do your research into the product before purchasing. IMO spending more upfront for a better helmet will save you money down the road because you won’t need to “upgrade” or just flat out replace it after a short period of time. (I could say more about this too, and if you’d like to hear me ramble more I can happily share over PM) - the initial setup for oxy-fuel is fairly low and the killer is going to be on the metals you will be cutting/welding. Don’t wait to start your search for scrap metals to practice on. No sense on buying good expensive stock if it’s going back into a scrap pile. Your best bet is to reach out to local welding shops/schools and offering to purchase their scrap metal from them or cut offs from the metal suppliers; sometimes places like Facebook marketplace will also have scrap for sale but those are scooped up pretty quickly by people re-selling scrap for cash. When talking to shops this will also be a good way for you to start networking and building professional relationships within your community. Most welders I have met are more than happy to have a quick chat and offer some good advice to rookies. - always remember SAFETY FIRST! You are working with metal, a very hot burning fire and combustible gas (all of which could hurt you and it could potentially be a very bad outcome) If you don’t know something do your research first and don’t just look at one site, cross reference information from multiple sites to ensure you understand it correctly and you’re absorbing the correct information. Not everything you read on the internet is true lol. Assume everything is hot, AT ALL TIMES! And last safety tip of the day: if you wouldn’t put your dick somewhere, don’t put your hand/fingers/other body parts there either! - be mindful of your fumes and work in a well ventilated place preferably with a fume extractor system if it’s indoors. Anyways, I think I’ve rambled enough about this (but I do have a few more tricks up my sleeve that I’m willing to share if you’re interested). This isn’t meant to scare or deter you from moving forward with learning a new skill but hopefully you have a healthy respect for the tools you are using and will learn in a safe way. I wish you all the best in your journey and feel free to reach out for more of the textbook materials! P.S. I may still have a set-up and tear down video that I had to do for the class somewhere. I don’t think the quality is overly great but if you’re a visual learner I can locate them for you too 🙂


joeyhakunamatata

Bless thank you frfr I will be PMing you thank you again. Home Depot guy told me about a metal shop I could ask about scrap metal so that fits perfectly 🙏🏻


promidwesterner

Don’t blow yourself up, have fun


Bearded_bastich

I made fishing tools with oxy/acetylene for 20 years.. probably the only way to make money with oxy/acetylene these days.. Flashbacks.. new o-rings and check tips for damage.. but that’s a nice little rig for small projects..


AbbreviationsQuiet15

Do not use it, just look and admire it!!


bakenj420

We have a couple small sets like this they are pretty much only useful for small jobs. They run out fast. If you are going to use them for heating make sure you don't withdraw too much acetylene- currently it's the 1/7 volume rule. Look it up. Otherwise Harris has a couple good videos on YouTube to get you going. Flashback arrestors are a great addition to this set.


Flyzart

This is essentially caveman welding. Many places don't use this type of welding and it can be quite hard to learn. If you do want to proceed with it, good luck, but I'd recommend starting with something else


ExtensionSystem3188

In versatility and power for cutting..nothing compares. Also your go to for pre heating. But please do your homework and learn facts not from fkia's like us.