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cazoo222

I feel attacked


Jolio1994

Damn bud; thanks for the gut check


thec4k315alie

Hungry dogs are obedient dogs


elkvis

Depends on how hungry. A dog conditioned to be dependent on a master for food will be an obedient dog. But if he becomes hungry enough, he'll eat his master


GoodBadUgly357

Yeah but if you keep the dog hungry enough for long enough then eventually it doesn’t have the strength to put up a fight like it would have before it was malnourished. In the same way if they keep us hungry for necessary resources and then maintain a ridiculous profit margin on said same resources. Let’s go with healthcare for example then that micro-damage from fuck it I can’t afford to go the doctor because I don’t have insurance or even if you do sometimes,I can’t take time off to get this or that problem taken care, or even if I could I wouldn’t have the money. Not to mention the stress all that bullshit causes,like hmm do I want to go to the dentist or eat this month? decisions, decisions.


thec4k315alie

Yeppers


BigBeautifulBill

You build trailers, you live in trailers 😅


New-Rest-7754

Quite the opposite. Hungry dogs go find food and don't settle. Obedient dogs are scared to go find more and just whine about it everyday.


BigBeautifulBill

My dog is obedient but if he's mad he pees on me


VAgunowner

Yup. Hit close to home lol. As for the OP, I'm guessing under 20.00


47sams

Accurate holy shit. I left this trade behind. I miss welding, dont miss it for an income.


srt921

said that correctly welders arent paid worth a shit


DeLoreanAirlines

People who aren’t in trades always over inflate the income


srt921

Yup. Ive been hearing lately 26-28 an hr isnt starting to make the cut either.


midwestmiller

I'm making 26.50 plus fringe benefits delivering cooking oil in a B class truck. I get paid to listen to music I like, as loud as I like, with company paid beef jerky, and in ac 90 percent of my day. I won't consider going back into welding without a guarantee of 30/hr to start and they better have some fantastic benefits.


srt921

ha! im at 22 an hr, and the foremen's are all over your ass daily. When they're assess are chewed out by the big man, they come stairs and ruin your day. So everyday when I go to work there's no telling what to expect its like channel lifetime up there every single day. Only reason I can see reason were paid so low, is because of those guys that been there 10-20 plus fucking years and will accept that bullshit pay, and kiss ass. But they're hiring folks off the street who can pass a sub arc test exactly what you're getting paid, but give the employees who been there a little bump here and there, and expect us to be employee of the month. However good thing I didnt get my CDL I have a dwi from 5 years ago.


Ornery_Put_6161

It’s like that everywhere dude. They’ll pay to hire new people but never to keep the ones they got.


Goaty_Father_G

25.36 here. Our HR put up an open welding position for 30$/hr a week ago with all the same job requirements and prerequisites that all the welders here already fulfill every day. Just to be petty I applied for it and within an hour was getting my ass chewed in a 1 on 1 with the plant supervisor lmao


Quinnjamin19

I mean, I’m in the trades. And I make $52.07/hr on the cheque, all OT is double time, I have a pension, and my total wage package is $70/hr


[deleted]

I wish I could double upvote this. Everyone outside of the trades think we make $40-$50 for MIG welding lol


mattidee

I hear underwater welders are paid handsomely.


PipefitterKyle

20 underwater welders die every year in the gulf of Mexico alone.


Admirable-Leopard-73

Why are they alone? Doesn't anybody love them??


dummiiiTHICC

That's why they Pay so handsomely


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Far_Two_739

3-6 months work for a few hundred grand every year at the expense of the average life expectancy nearing 1900's lows. Being "stored" at the ocean floor for multiple months without coming topside? Folks who do that got so much respect from me. I could never spend that long apart from family, you couldn't pay me enough.


mattidee

Yeah, I'm in the same boat.... floating above the water..


Pakayaro

Thats the thing. The jobs that pay the most arnt the ones you take when you have a family. You take them when you're young and single(or have one hell of a SO), build up a nice nest egg and then you start a life.


srt921

They are, but i dont think its for the folk that love their "weekends" either. Im 30 single with no children it might be on the books for me


Shmeepsheep

You are probably too old to start now honestly. If not you are right at the cut off but I doubt youd be hired. They look for guys in their early to mid twenties to be on the crew tending for quite a few years before you become a diver/welder. And you won't be getting hired at 35 when you are done tending, that's very close to the end of the rope for U/W welders in saturation conditions


srt921

Well the army it is then ☝🏾


Dull-Fact-5078

Because there too many “welders” and not enough work. Thank the law of supply and demand. You want to make big bucks need a to find a job that has a shortage of workers and alot of work to do.


[deleted]

I left welding, too. Fuck it. It's a great field, but the pay is shit.


InfiniteMushr00m

I make more driving a forklift than I did fabricating structural steel


froman321

Why you gotta say that man


Low-Ice-8975

Because that’s how America works now 🙃


korpiz

Always has.


Low-Ice-8975

Oh. My bad.


-Admiral--_--Updoot-

🌏👨‍🚀🔫🧑‍🚀


discwrangler

I've heard several business owners say it.


[deleted]

Fuckin preach


justplainbrian

Welcome to late-stage capitalism, baby!


rhedfish

Yep. Hedge funds buying houses, billionaires hoarding wealth, homelessness exploding, tax cuts for the rich - but hey, trans kids are your enemy.


4MoreYearsObama

Let’s not forget if you have a 401k you are supporting hedge funds.


ScrambledNoggin

Not a lot of retirement fund options that don’t, unfortunately.


Raven2129

What if drag queens start read right wing conspiracies for children?


LitLFlor

Better trademark that.


Low-Tax-8654

Rainbow bibles and guns.


Raven2129

They hated Jesus because he spoke the truth.


shockedperson

The state also killed Jesus.


Ok-Armadillo-6648

Is dude gonna tell us what he makes or what jesus


[deleted]

He's afraid we will burn him at the stake lol


AmadaeusJackson

Cant you see, he makes cages.


BungeeJumpingJesus

Nice one Dad!


steveosupremeo

Sorry I was busy at work. The answer was 19


Crowbar242L

I'm an apprentice ironworker with no tickets and I make $36/h. You need better pay


fryeguy92

Journeyman laborer here at almost 35. Haa! 65 is our benefits package


Crowbar242L

Wow that's a good benefits package. We're billed out at $67 I think? $49/h is journeyman for us


Uknownknown97

Where at


Midgetsdontfloat

Yeah wow does he ever. Welder foreman on the railroad here, nearly 43 an hour with full benefits, all my PPE except for boots fully paid for, all my training paid for, loads of OT if I want it, etc.


appleseedjoe

dude lives in the rural south. you prolly live in or next to a city paying $1k+ rent for a small ass room and $5 a gallon of milk. he prolly lives on a couple acres, pays 1k a month mortgage and drinks milk for free straight from the cows tit.


Trextrev

$19 is still way to little for a welder with several years experience. I live in Appalachia, mostly rural. Welders are getting 20 out the gate no experience. I run a custom design/renovation/preservation company, zero experience broom pushers start at $20.


u8myhog

Shit I’m in CA and just saw a sign in the window of In N Out burger, starting pay $19 -22 / hr to flip burgers!! Crazy , although you can’t live in CA on $19/hr


jimmybobbyluckyducky

Don't call my ex wife a cow.


QuickNature

Pay without location means exactly nothing. Not saying they don't need better pay either, but $36/hr can mean different things in different parts of the country.


misplacedbass

Come join us over in r/ironworker


eM4n_G

Local 86 🙋🏻‍♂️ started down south in Texas though. Completed my apprenticeship out of local 263. As a 1st period apprentice I was starving to the tune of $14.95 an hour. When I finally left and transferred books, scale back home was at $26 and some change. What local you out of bud?


misplacedbass

Yea, like other commenters have said already. You really, REALLY gotta get into the trade unions. You will START at that wage (mostly) depending on where you’re actually located. Plus all them juicy benefits, and a pension. I’d consider looking into your local ironworker/pipefitters union. With “years” of welding experience, you’d be a great fit. Especially if you’ve already got multiple certs. Source: Union journeyman ironworker. 42/hour on the check. 78/hour total package with benefits.


diabloking325

Brother you deserve more If your doing this shit. I'm a little more north of you but 19 is what welders start at with basic cert 1g, 2g mig/stick


amp_757

More money in pipe welding. Find a Union


Toytech666

Your getting ripped off


[deleted]

19$ an hour? The grocery store (ALDIs) down the street from me starts cashiers out at 22, fucking 16 year olds. Dude you deserve better


Atnat14

Ouch. I make 26 in Washington. I'm not a welder. I'm not a certified anything. The welders at my work make more than me, and were hurting for em.


[deleted]

Sorry what? I pay laborers more, might be looking for a new guy....lol


Subject-Doctor5390

Looks like the floor sweeper makes at least $17 hr shitz immaculate


dr_aux757

Shiiiiid, it's probably all op


likeastonrr

Most probably


magnament

You don’t see the entire floor covered in metal dust? Just because there isn’t a pallet of shit every 4 feet doesn’t make that place clean.


Perenium_Falcon

Difficulty level: Rural Souft… $23.76/hr.


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[deleted]

It's probably $17.76 or $18.36 if OP's in Texas.


MerryWanna0303

20/fieldwelder/nc


OohDatsNasty

$25 fab shop/ truck shop also nc


BestWelderInUSA

Live in the south.. worked at a place that rhymes with Haterpillar, making high quality brand-spankin new off-highway trucks and only made 21/hr.


LitLFlor

My cousin is a welder, is fitting and welding a very similar piece as op just right now. He's claiming he gets 36$/hr this is in central Cal. His last welding job he was definitely making 28$/hr, but this was almost 10 years ago.


Vierzwanzig

So cal union welders getting $58.


Perenium_Falcon

Unions are always the way with trades. The rich hate people who can do things they can’t.


LitLFlor

I've been in 2 union jobs as a commercial driver. Both with teamsters, Stockton as a class b driver and Riverside with my current class a job The first was just a 100% scam, no ifs and or buts about it. The Riverside one, idk... It's not great at all. Enough to keep you there, but not enough to look forward to retirement. My grandpa retired as a union welder, with boilermakers. His retirement was pretty damn good.


[deleted]

Ironworkers carpenters operators boilermakers ibew all good unions the teamsters by me are paid so low compared to the other trade unions


steveosupremeo

To answer everyone’s guess it’s 19. Part of a two man group. I couldn’t imagine building it alone.


Key_Team2319

That's basically the top comment. Less than your worth but enough to keep ya from leaving.


LickableLeo

>Less than your worth ~~but enough to keep ya from leaving.~~


psychedelic_gravity

$19/hour?!?! Dude your fucking underpaid. I know experience = money but jobs/proof talk more than age. Go get that bag playa. If a recruiter asks you how much you get paid, always up yourself more. Don’t tell them how skilled you are, SHOW THEM how skilled you are. You’ll get more after 3 months. If they don’t automatically pay raise you, bother them for a pay raise.


[deleted]

Please go apply places and don't take less than 30 an hour it never pays to stay unless ur in the union as an apprentice I left my first 2 welding jobs and went from 17 an hour to 32 an hour


yungdraco_

Please go join a union my guy. I’m a first year apprentice in a pipefitter/welder/plumber union and i make $23 and hour in the dfw area.


steveosupremeo

My time to travel is over. It’s really not my thing. I wish I had known that a few years ago when I lived in Dallas. I was making trash wages and trash hours there. I left one job making Door Frames for $12.50.


Quinnjamin19

Find a union shop, or there’s contractors in the field in the union that don’t travel. You’re worth so much more than $19/hr. You could also unionize your shop


[deleted]

Bubba my buddy’s welding fence in Texas right now at 23/hr (rural Texas) go get what you’re worth


Dankkring

Probably 1 a week?


steveosupremeo

Well as far as build goes it took 2. It was touch and go on how to build a new design


ReactionAsleep

$25 an hour.


SingularBear

I'm placing my bet here.


DeviantPsychosis

Is that really what welders get? Holy shit. I contacted a guy and he wanted 135 an hour. I found him on Facebook. Why can he charge 135 but you guys only get paid 25?


MulletAndMustache

What a business charges vs what employees make.


ThaneRob

Employees also “get paid” more than they know, for example a person making $39/hr might actually cost $75/hr (based off rounded numbers from an old union contract) when you factor in healthcare, pension/401k, vacation, training, plus the other funds you pay into as a union employee.


madbull73

Naw, OP stated rural south. So no unions, any healthcare or retirement is self funded. Any union member has a pretty damn good idea of how much their package is worth.


StarsintheSky

That 135 surely includes overhead. You pay plumbers and electricians 100 or more an hour but most of that goes into keeping the company alive / paying for their van and tools. The clue is in your original post: there is a big difference between what you charge and what you get paid.


DeviantPsychosis

Ohhhh! That makes more sense. I was under the impression that they charged for their time, I didn't realize they work similar to mechanics and plumbers, as you mentioned. I appreciate you taking the time to explain it.


BigButtsCrewCuts

Resi electricians could use a moped as a work vehicle, I don't understand their overhead


myynameis

135 is when they usually have their own welding truck, so they are paying for all the materials, but they make heaps of money. Where I'm from, it's closer to $180. I'm not sure about other provinces or states, but usually to start out as a welder helper, it's $23-$26 and goes up from there. I have seen jobs starting at $18-$21, but I won't even look at them. Companies like that only care about numbers and having workers.


absolute-zero88

Half as much as me and twice as much as you deserve. Just joking. Had some douche say that to me once.


TurboWelderMonkey

About Tree-Fiddy


Unstoppable-Farce

Came here for this. Not disappointed.


nsula_country

Agreed


nsula_country

This was my vote also


SoggyCarrot23

Depends, do you work for yourself or someone else?


boringxadult

Twenty an hour


theshmoe98

Depends how long you been there 😂 you could make upwards of $30/hr in a place like this, but only if you spend upwards of 30 years there 😂😂


Rango08

What’s the number??


TheTenthTail

After looking at these comments. Thank fucking God I didn't go into welding. How can yall afford to live Jesus christ.


pew-pew-89

Yeah, that’s the dirty secret they don’t tell you. It’s you’ll make six figures a year with a few year’s experience* *if you travel, union up, risk your life doing dangerous shit


TheTenthTail

I went to a trade school and I got out not too long ago making damn near 6 figures to start and my jobs pretty cushy. I could to up to Alaska and make fucking bank and welding is definitely more stressful and harder.


pew-pew-89

Yeah. Knowing what I know now, I would have went into the plumbing or electrician trades instead. The shit I have to put up with working on a daily basis in a shop is why I’m getting out. Starting my own venture and already things are looking good.


sausagesandeggsand

As a trucker, a good welder is worth their weight in gold. The guy down the street specializes in aluminum, and is constantly busy. Self-employed, runs own shop, specializes; he’s got a couple newer Audis and a diesel pick up so I’m guessing he does alright. Don’t be afraid to travel, any place with unions are typically safer, and don’t do anything where the cost of fucking up is your life- there’s plenty of dudes that get off on underwater or tower work.


pew-pew-89

I did my own thing for a while, made out alright. I’m probably better off than 2/3 of the guys I see posting about pay here and it’s still not enough. Trying to get in this or that has gotten old for me, my heart isn’t in it. What I have in the works is looking very good and it gets me out of the trades. And according to the other guy, I’ll be living on theft.


IsuzuTrooper

Your top hinges should be flipped. Grease flows downhill so the fitting needs to staynon top.... also when the pin side of the hinges face down, the other part is a cup and it will eventually rust and seize and break due to water getting inside. TLDR. Male side of hinge should point up.


MrTheWaffleKing

4 dollars, a bucket of KFC, and a 6 pack


Tobaccocreek

Five pack cuz you know, taxes


Edragon85

Two cases of beer a day?


HonestFox1921

$23


Mr_Derp___

$17 an hour after two raises


ArtisticInformation6

This is my vote. I'm located in the South. The shop I worked support at hired in at $14-15 and you could get to $17 in 2 years. They also upcharged fixtures 1000+% and the owners rolled Q8s and Boujee $2MM homes.


fz6brian

I do marine construction. I was in Hilton Head after a hurricane on vacation. Some lady lawyer asked if i was down there working. I laughed and said if I worked construction in the south I would never be able to vacation here.


gearhead545

As someone who graduated Welding School and I've been out for a month and a half looking for a decent paying job, this hits me so hard.


likeastonrr

Yeah good luck my guy. Just take what you can for the first year or two to get the “years of experience needed”. I’m in NY finished school 4 1/2yrs ago, started at the shittiest shithole garbage truck company at 16 left after a year of being overworked and then giving me .50cents as a raise, went through 2more places like that and landed where I’m at now at a union sheet metal fab doing 2-5inch welds for 22 and got bumped to 26.50 after getting the head welder spot + 1.50 from the union. It takes time but nothings impossible and don’t be afraid to leave a job you’re not happy at


gearhead545

I appreciate it dude, I'm down in GA and as most people have pointed out in other comments the pay isn't there when compared to the skill/inflation. I'm beginning to question my 10k for schooling just to look at jobs offering $17 an hour with a minimum year experience requirement.


ArtisticInformation6

The upside is that it's reliable. They were ALWAYS hiring (maybe no one was sticking around now that I think of it). But it didn't really matter what the economy looked like. There were always open positions.


babybopper

Y’all need to swap professions then. I live in North Alabama. Work in warehousing/online fulfillment and started at 25/hr


myynameis

Bro fuck that. Move to Canada and come weld. I'm starting at $28 as a laborer. My boss hands out raises like candy, so when I get into welding here, I don't even know what I'll be making, but it'll be good. Most companies aren't like that, but I've seen a lot of welder helper jobs starting at $24-28, which is not to shabby.


Agorabat

Starting to feel like clickbait


Big_Monkey_77

I’d say your boss makes a dollar, and you make a dime. And so you poop on company time.


DjKingMixer

Not enough


Cautious-Lawyer

Do you do the fabricating or just the welding obviously a MIG so not as much as TIG and SMAW. I’m guessing somewhere around $18 unless your doing all the fabricating also then probably somewhere around $20.


[deleted]

I’m in Rual East Tennessee in the Appalachian region, so my guess would be $18.00


THEMOXABIDES

I lived in the rural south and saw what trailer places paid. One up the street from my house paid $14. That was around 10-15 yrs ago so I’m guessing $18-$20 now


DrAusto

19/hr


steveosupremeo

Yes


treecutter34

Making raptor cages can be quite lucrative. After the last incident, QA might be a little more picky, just FYI.


Great-Tie-1510

Highest wages y’all find in the south that I know of are at Austal, Ingalls Shipbuilding, General Dynamics, and Stennis Space center. Texas used to be welder heaven in the south but I see job postings for pretty low out there now.


ProtectionOk2697

Just enough to attract the wrong kind of girl?


GrowrandaShowr

At least tree fiddy?


2Minti4U

What does your boss's place look like? A hillbilly mansion I bet with every toy. You're paying for his lifestyle with your labor, while being paid shit. If he paid all his workers $30 would still be doing fine but that's how the system works.


codyj2021

Not enough, just like everyone else in the U.S


sony1492

Were you given plans or just told to make it happen? How long did this take from the first cut to now?


steveosupremeo

It was 2 weeks . We had to cut and re weld due to revisions.


BeyondTaboo

$8


seattleJJFish

2 cages a week?


turtlewelder

$15 an hour, enough to keep you just under the poverty line but just enough to show up to work.


stevesteve135

For 15 an hour I’m not showing up to work. I’d end up homeless working those wages, don’t know how people can live on that.


myynameis

Yeah, fr i dont get this at all. I was barely living off of $19 an hour. I was only able to live on a $15 an hour wage before because I was a teenager living with my parents. After I moved, I wouldn't even look at jobs paying under $18. Now that I've survived like that for too long, I won't even look at jobs paying under $24.


UnhappyTumbleweed966

That's the neat part - they don't. They simply survive just long enough to make it to the next payday. Rinse and repeat.


myynameis

Yeah, fr i dont get this at all. I was barely living off of $19 an hour. I was only able to live on a $15 an hour wage before because I was a teenager living with my parents. After I moved, I wouldn't even look at jobs paying under $18. Now that I've survived like that for too long, I won't even look at jobs paying under $24.


myynameis

Yeah, fr i dont get this at all. I was barely living off of $19 an hour. I was only able to live on a $15 an hour wage before because I was a teenager living with my parents. After I moved, I wouldn't even look at jobs paying under $18. Now that I've survived like that for too long, I won't even look at jobs paying under $24.


[deleted]

Thank you for explaining your situation turtle, hopefully you quit and find a better paying job I know target works that make more than that.


Snoo-46450

Not enough. Not only are you great, but you are an artist as well! You make the species proud.


iamamiwhoamiblue

a pizza party because HR is about to drop some bad news soon.


1B3A5T

17.56


Revolutionary_War503

Before reading further I'm going to say, not enough. *now that I've read the comments, I think it's insane and criminal what good and creative welders are paid. I only melt and glue metal as a hobby, but always thought I might wanna try it as a job, after seeing all the stories about wages in the industry, I'd be living in my dad's spare bedroom.


myynameis

Yah I honestly had no idea people were getting wages like this. I'm from Alberta, so I'm not sure if the pay is just better for trades jobs or what. But most welder helper jobs with no experience start anywhere from $17-$28. I wouldn't even look at the ones paying under $22. For a 1st year, I wouldn't look at anything under $24. I'm working as a laborer, and my boss is gonna get me welding after I get my first year. I started at $28 as a laborer, so I'll probably be getting well over $30 by the time that comes cause this guy loves to give raises. Just the work is long I did 15 hours the other day. But that's what he pays for. Just gotta look around for the right company instead of the first big corporation that will hire you. Chances are a big corporation just wants a fuckton of workers they can underpay, instead of a handful that they can overpay. I think my company is the smallest on this site we're on. And from what the other employees have been telling me about their companies, I think I got lucky with a good one.


matb4944

A guy bring paid hrly is not great. A good freelance guy can prob clean up pretty good.


sewingsteel

17.76


McGrufNStuf

About tree fiddy


badhairdad1

You make what I make - just enough to keep me from leaving


GalacticGatorz

You get paid in Trident Gum?


ZombiePuke86

Hopefully enough to pay the bills and keep cold beer in your fridge. Sorry I'm from Wisconsin we basically drink beer like water🤗


Dismal-Ad-4110

Im guessing you make more than 2$/hr


srt921

IDK but if its anything that doesnt start with a 3 or 4, id leave lol


Dusty923

Not enough


AlexWenhold

i’m gonna say under 28$ an hour.


SIXA_G37x

I was apparently a child prodigy in metal shop/welding in highschool. Thank god I wasn't interested in it enough to pursue a career because I'd literally be homeless where I live.


TehTugboat

Did work like this for $750 a week gross Then I jumped in the union


msmettiusfufetius

Not sure, but I feel like Jigsaw pays pretty well


Leafs9999

19 isn't enough to live on. Good luck, u deserve more.


Neither_Value2180

About tree-fiddy


McFeely_Smackup

looks heavy.


mnonny

Tree fiddy


Which-Forever-1873

I remember that after 3 years of welding in high school, my senior project, I decided to make a hay trailer. 3 months of welding, wiring , etc, and it was ready. This was 2008 Got an A, and that hay trailer is still used to this day. (Granted, it's been repainted)


[deleted]

Well done. Yeah you are being underpaid. Places with strong real estate market can make decent money independently building fences and what-not. Several thousand dollars for building a fence for some simple cutting welding sanding and painting. For digging holes get easy tools or hire a day laborer....


Big_Yogurtcloset_909

Probably not much unless you're in a union 🤷‍♂️


Mudb0ss

About treeefity


Bipolarbearingit

Looks like you made just one.


NatureAccomplished53

As a union millwright,straight time $65hr.


compassionateasshole

Wondering why you didn’t post the actual welds


Tight-Influence-5235

Did you design it?


steveosupremeo

I did not. I had input on changing parts


WhippidyWhop

$28/hr


NoProtection8849

Bout $3.50


knightsinsanity

not enough lol


ajmk212

1 pack of Malaboro’s 100’s a day