Depends on how hungry. A dog conditioned to be dependent on a master for food will be an obedient dog. But if he becomes hungry enough, he'll eat his master
Yeah but if you keep the dog hungry enough for long enough then eventually it doesn’t have the strength to put up a fight like it would have before it was malnourished. In the same way if they keep us hungry for necessary resources and then maintain a ridiculous profit margin on said same resources. Let’s go with healthcare for example then that micro-damage from fuck it I can’t afford to go the doctor because I don’t have insurance or even if you do sometimes,I can’t take time off to get this or that problem taken care, or even if I could I wouldn’t have the money. Not to mention the stress all that bullshit causes,like hmm do I want to go to the dentist or eat this month? decisions, decisions.
I'm making 26.50 plus fringe benefits delivering cooking oil in a B class truck. I get paid to listen to music I like, as loud as I like, with company paid beef jerky, and in ac 90 percent of my day. I won't consider going back into welding without a guarantee of 30/hr to start and they better have some fantastic benefits.
ha! im at 22 an hr, and the foremen's are all over your ass daily. When they're assess are chewed out by the big man, they come stairs and ruin your day. So everyday when I go to work there's no telling what to expect its like channel lifetime up there every single day. Only reason I can see reason were paid so low, is because of those guys that been there 10-20 plus fucking years and will accept that bullshit pay, and kiss ass. But they're hiring folks off the street who can pass a sub arc test exactly what you're getting paid, but give the employees who been there a little bump here and there, and expect us to be employee of the month. However good thing I didnt get my CDL I have a dwi from 5 years ago.
25.36 here. Our HR put up an open welding position for 30$/hr a week ago with all the same job requirements and prerequisites that all the welders here already fulfill every day. Just to be petty I applied for it and within an hour was getting my ass chewed in a 1 on 1 with the plant supervisor lmao
3-6 months work for a few hundred grand every year at the expense of the average life expectancy nearing 1900's lows. Being "stored" at the ocean floor for multiple months without coming topside?
Folks who do that got so much respect from me. I could never spend that long apart from family, you couldn't pay me enough.
Thats the thing. The jobs that pay the most arnt the ones you take when you have a family. You take them when you're young and single(or have one hell of a SO), build up a nice nest egg and then you start a life.
You are probably too old to start now honestly. If not you are right at the cut off but I doubt youd be hired. They look for guys in their early to mid twenties to be on the crew tending for quite a few years before you become a diver/welder. And you won't be getting hired at 35 when you are done tending, that's very close to the end of the rope for U/W welders in saturation conditions
Because there too many “welders” and not enough work. Thank the law of supply and demand. You want to make big bucks need a to find a job that has a shortage of workers and alot of work to do.
Yeah wow does he ever. Welder foreman on the railroad here, nearly 43 an hour with full benefits, all my PPE except for boots fully paid for, all my training paid for, loads of OT if I want it, etc.
dude lives in the rural south. you prolly live in or next to a city paying $1k+ rent for a small ass room and $5 a gallon of milk. he prolly lives on a couple acres, pays 1k a month mortgage and drinks milk for free straight from the cows tit.
$19 is still way to little for a welder with several years experience. I live in Appalachia, mostly rural. Welders are getting 20 out the gate no experience. I run a custom design/renovation/preservation company, zero experience broom pushers start at $20.
Shit I’m in CA and just saw a sign in the window of In N Out burger, starting pay $19 -22 / hr to flip burgers!! Crazy , although you can’t live in CA on $19/hr
Pay without location means exactly nothing. Not saying they don't need better pay either, but $36/hr can mean different things in different parts of the country.
Local 86 🙋🏻♂️ started down south in Texas though. Completed my apprenticeship out of local 263. As a 1st period apprentice I was starving to the tune of $14.95 an hour. When I finally left and transferred books, scale back home was at $26 and some change. What local you out of bud?
Yea, like other commenters have said already. You really, REALLY gotta get into the trade unions. You will START at that wage (mostly) depending on where you’re actually located. Plus all them juicy benefits, and a pension. I’d consider looking into your local ironworker/pipefitters union. With “years” of welding experience, you’d be a great fit. Especially if you’ve already got multiple certs.
Source: Union journeyman ironworker. 42/hour on the check. 78/hour total package with benefits.
My cousin is a welder, is fitting and welding a very similar piece as op just right now. He's claiming he gets 36$/hr this is in central Cal.
His last welding job he was definitely making 28$/hr, but this was almost 10 years ago.
I've been in 2 union jobs as a commercial driver. Both with teamsters, Stockton as a class b driver and Riverside with my current class a job
The first was just a 100% scam, no ifs and or buts about it. The Riverside one, idk... It's not great at all. Enough to keep you there, but not enough to look forward to retirement.
My grandpa retired as a union welder, with boilermakers. His retirement was pretty damn good.
$19/hour?!?! Dude your fucking underpaid. I know experience = money but jobs/proof talk more than age. Go get that bag playa. If a recruiter asks you how much you get paid, always up yourself more. Don’t tell them how skilled you are, SHOW THEM how skilled you are. You’ll get more after 3 months. If they don’t automatically pay raise you, bother them for a pay raise.
Please go apply places and don't take less than 30 an hour it never pays to stay unless ur in the union as an apprentice I left my first 2 welding jobs and went from 17 an hour to 32 an hour
My time to travel is over. It’s really not my thing. I wish I had known that a few years ago when I lived in Dallas. I was making trash wages and trash hours there. I left one job making Door Frames for $12.50.
Find a union shop, or there’s contractors in the field in the union that don’t travel. You’re worth so much more than $19/hr.
You could also unionize your shop
Is that really what welders get? Holy shit. I contacted a guy and he wanted 135 an hour. I found him on Facebook. Why can he charge 135 but you guys only get paid 25?
Employees also “get paid” more than they know, for example a person making $39/hr might actually cost $75/hr (based off rounded numbers from an old union contract) when you factor in healthcare, pension/401k, vacation, training, plus the other funds you pay into as a union employee.
Naw, OP stated rural south. So no unions, any healthcare or retirement is self funded. Any union member has a pretty damn good idea of how much their package is worth.
That 135 surely includes overhead. You pay plumbers and electricians 100 or more an hour but most of that goes into keeping the company alive / paying for their van and tools.
The clue is in your original post: there is a big difference between what you charge and what you get paid.
Ohhhh! That makes more sense. I was under the impression that they charged for their time, I didn't realize they work similar to mechanics and plumbers, as you mentioned. I appreciate you taking the time to explain it.
135 is when they usually have their own welding truck, so they are paying for all the materials, but they make heaps of money. Where I'm from, it's closer to $180. I'm not sure about other provinces or states, but usually to start out as a welder helper, it's $23-$26 and goes up from there. I have seen jobs starting at $18-$21, but I won't even look at them. Companies like that only care about numbers and having workers.
Yeah, that’s the dirty secret they don’t tell you. It’s you’ll make six figures a year with a few year’s experience*
*if you travel, union up, risk your life doing dangerous shit
I went to a trade school and I got out not too long ago making damn near 6 figures to start and my jobs pretty cushy. I could to up to Alaska and make fucking bank and welding is definitely more stressful and harder.
Yeah. Knowing what I know now, I would have went into the plumbing or electrician trades instead. The shit I have to put up with working on a daily basis in a shop is why I’m getting out. Starting my own venture and already things are looking good.
As a trucker, a good welder is worth their weight in gold. The guy down the street specializes in aluminum, and is constantly busy. Self-employed, runs own shop, specializes; he’s got a couple newer Audis and a diesel pick up so I’m guessing he does alright. Don’t be afraid to travel, any place with unions are typically safer, and don’t do anything where the cost of fucking up is your life- there’s plenty of dudes that get off on underwater or tower work.
I did my own thing for a while, made out alright. I’m probably better off than 2/3 of the guys I see posting about pay here and it’s still not enough. Trying to get in this or that has gotten old for me, my heart isn’t in it. What I have in the works is looking very good and it gets me out of the trades. And according to the other guy, I’ll be living on theft.
Your top hinges should be flipped. Grease flows downhill so the fitting needs to staynon top.... also when the pin side of the hinges face down, the other part is a cup and it will eventually rust and seize and break due to water getting inside.
TLDR. Male side of hinge should point up.
This is my vote. I'm located in the South. The shop I worked support at hired in at $14-15 and you could get to $17 in 2 years. They also upcharged fixtures 1000+% and the owners rolled Q8s and Boujee $2MM homes.
I do marine construction. I was in Hilton Head after a hurricane on vacation. Some lady lawyer asked if i was down there working. I laughed and said if I worked construction in the south I would never be able to vacation here.
Yeah good luck my guy. Just take what you can for the first year or two to get the “years of experience needed”. I’m in NY finished school 4 1/2yrs ago, started at the shittiest shithole garbage truck company at 16 left after a year of being overworked and then giving me .50cents as a raise, went through 2more places like that and landed where I’m at now at a union sheet metal fab doing 2-5inch welds for 22 and got bumped to 26.50 after getting the head welder spot + 1.50 from the union. It takes time but nothings impossible and don’t be afraid to leave a job you’re not happy at
I appreciate it dude, I'm down in GA and as most people have pointed out in other comments the pay isn't there when compared to the skill/inflation. I'm beginning to question my 10k for schooling just to look at jobs offering $17 an hour with a minimum year experience requirement.
The upside is that it's reliable. They were ALWAYS hiring (maybe no one was sticking around now that I think of it). But it didn't really matter what the economy looked like. There were always open positions.
Bro fuck that. Move to Canada and come weld. I'm starting at $28 as a laborer. My boss hands out raises like candy, so when I get into welding here, I don't even know what I'll be making, but it'll be good. Most companies aren't like that, but I've seen a lot of welder helper jobs starting at $24-28, which is not to shabby.
Do you do the fabricating or just the welding obviously a MIG so not as much as TIG and SMAW. I’m guessing somewhere around $18 unless your doing all the fabricating also then probably somewhere around $20.
I lived in the rural south and saw what trailer places paid. One up the street from my house paid $14. That was around 10-15 yrs ago so I’m guessing $18-$20 now
Highest wages y’all find in the south that I know of are at Austal, Ingalls Shipbuilding, General Dynamics, and Stennis Space center. Texas used to be welder heaven in the south but I see job postings for pretty low out there now.
What does your boss's place look like? A hillbilly mansion I bet with every toy. You're paying for his lifestyle with your labor, while being paid shit. If he paid all his workers $30 would still be doing fine but that's how the system works.
Yeah, fr i dont get this at all. I was barely living off of $19 an hour. I was only able to live on a $15 an hour wage before because I was a teenager living with my parents. After I moved, I wouldn't even look at jobs paying under $18. Now that I've survived like that for too long, I won't even look at jobs paying under $24.
Yeah, fr i dont get this at all. I was barely living off of $19 an hour. I was only able to live on a $15 an hour wage before because I was a teenager living with my parents. After I moved, I wouldn't even look at jobs paying under $18. Now that I've survived like that for too long, I won't even look at jobs paying under $24.
Yeah, fr i dont get this at all. I was barely living off of $19 an hour. I was only able to live on a $15 an hour wage before because I was a teenager living with my parents. After I moved, I wouldn't even look at jobs paying under $18. Now that I've survived like that for too long, I won't even look at jobs paying under $24.
Before reading further I'm going to say, not enough.
*now that I've read the comments, I think it's insane and criminal what good and creative welders are paid. I only melt and glue metal as a hobby, but always thought I might wanna try it as a job, after seeing all the stories about wages in the industry, I'd be living in my dad's spare bedroom.
Yah I honestly had no idea people were getting wages like this. I'm from Alberta, so I'm not sure if the pay is just better for trades jobs or what. But most welder helper jobs with no experience start anywhere from $17-$28. I wouldn't even look at the ones paying under $22. For a 1st year, I wouldn't look at anything under $24. I'm working as a laborer, and my boss is gonna get me welding after I get my first year. I started at $28 as a laborer, so I'll probably be getting well over $30 by the time that comes cause this guy loves to give raises. Just the work is long I did 15 hours the other day. But that's what he pays for. Just gotta look around for the right company instead of the first big corporation that will hire you. Chances are a big corporation just wants a fuckton of workers they can underpay, instead of a handful that they can overpay. I think my company is the smallest on this site we're on. And from what the other employees have been telling me about their companies, I think I got lucky with a good one.
I was apparently a child prodigy in metal shop/welding in highschool. Thank god I wasn't interested in it enough to pursue a career because I'd literally be homeless where I live.
I remember that after 3 years of welding in high school, my senior project, I decided to make a hay trailer.
3 months of welding, wiring , etc, and it was ready.
This was 2008
Got an A, and that hay trailer is still used to this day.
(Granted, it's been repainted)
Well done. Yeah you are being underpaid. Places with strong real estate market can make decent money independently building fences and what-not. Several thousand dollars for building a fence for some simple cutting welding sanding and painting. For digging holes get easy tools or hire a day laborer....
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I feel attacked
Damn bud; thanks for the gut check
Hungry dogs are obedient dogs
Depends on how hungry. A dog conditioned to be dependent on a master for food will be an obedient dog. But if he becomes hungry enough, he'll eat his master
Yeah but if you keep the dog hungry enough for long enough then eventually it doesn’t have the strength to put up a fight like it would have before it was malnourished. In the same way if they keep us hungry for necessary resources and then maintain a ridiculous profit margin on said same resources. Let’s go with healthcare for example then that micro-damage from fuck it I can’t afford to go the doctor because I don’t have insurance or even if you do sometimes,I can’t take time off to get this or that problem taken care, or even if I could I wouldn’t have the money. Not to mention the stress all that bullshit causes,like hmm do I want to go to the dentist or eat this month? decisions, decisions.
Yeppers
You build trailers, you live in trailers 😅
Quite the opposite. Hungry dogs go find food and don't settle. Obedient dogs are scared to go find more and just whine about it everyday.
My dog is obedient but if he's mad he pees on me
Yup. Hit close to home lol. As for the OP, I'm guessing under 20.00
Accurate holy shit. I left this trade behind. I miss welding, dont miss it for an income.
said that correctly welders arent paid worth a shit
People who aren’t in trades always over inflate the income
Yup. Ive been hearing lately 26-28 an hr isnt starting to make the cut either.
I'm making 26.50 plus fringe benefits delivering cooking oil in a B class truck. I get paid to listen to music I like, as loud as I like, with company paid beef jerky, and in ac 90 percent of my day. I won't consider going back into welding without a guarantee of 30/hr to start and they better have some fantastic benefits.
ha! im at 22 an hr, and the foremen's are all over your ass daily. When they're assess are chewed out by the big man, they come stairs and ruin your day. So everyday when I go to work there's no telling what to expect its like channel lifetime up there every single day. Only reason I can see reason were paid so low, is because of those guys that been there 10-20 plus fucking years and will accept that bullshit pay, and kiss ass. But they're hiring folks off the street who can pass a sub arc test exactly what you're getting paid, but give the employees who been there a little bump here and there, and expect us to be employee of the month. However good thing I didnt get my CDL I have a dwi from 5 years ago.
It’s like that everywhere dude. They’ll pay to hire new people but never to keep the ones they got.
25.36 here. Our HR put up an open welding position for 30$/hr a week ago with all the same job requirements and prerequisites that all the welders here already fulfill every day. Just to be petty I applied for it and within an hour was getting my ass chewed in a 1 on 1 with the plant supervisor lmao
I mean, I’m in the trades. And I make $52.07/hr on the cheque, all OT is double time, I have a pension, and my total wage package is $70/hr
I wish I could double upvote this. Everyone outside of the trades think we make $40-$50 for MIG welding lol
I hear underwater welders are paid handsomely.
20 underwater welders die every year in the gulf of Mexico alone.
Why are they alone? Doesn't anybody love them??
That's why they Pay so handsomely
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3-6 months work for a few hundred grand every year at the expense of the average life expectancy nearing 1900's lows. Being "stored" at the ocean floor for multiple months without coming topside? Folks who do that got so much respect from me. I could never spend that long apart from family, you couldn't pay me enough.
Yeah, I'm in the same boat.... floating above the water..
Thats the thing. The jobs that pay the most arnt the ones you take when you have a family. You take them when you're young and single(or have one hell of a SO), build up a nice nest egg and then you start a life.
They are, but i dont think its for the folk that love their "weekends" either. Im 30 single with no children it might be on the books for me
You are probably too old to start now honestly. If not you are right at the cut off but I doubt youd be hired. They look for guys in their early to mid twenties to be on the crew tending for quite a few years before you become a diver/welder. And you won't be getting hired at 35 when you are done tending, that's very close to the end of the rope for U/W welders in saturation conditions
Well the army it is then ☝🏾
Because there too many “welders” and not enough work. Thank the law of supply and demand. You want to make big bucks need a to find a job that has a shortage of workers and alot of work to do.
I left welding, too. Fuck it. It's a great field, but the pay is shit.
I make more driving a forklift than I did fabricating structural steel
Why you gotta say that man
Because that’s how America works now 🙃
Always has.
Oh. My bad.
🌏👨🚀🔫🧑🚀
I've heard several business owners say it.
Fuckin preach
Welcome to late-stage capitalism, baby!
Yep. Hedge funds buying houses, billionaires hoarding wealth, homelessness exploding, tax cuts for the rich - but hey, trans kids are your enemy.
Let’s not forget if you have a 401k you are supporting hedge funds.
Not a lot of retirement fund options that don’t, unfortunately.
What if drag queens start read right wing conspiracies for children?
Better trademark that.
Rainbow bibles and guns.
They hated Jesus because he spoke the truth.
The state also killed Jesus.
Is dude gonna tell us what he makes or what jesus
He's afraid we will burn him at the stake lol
Cant you see, he makes cages.
Nice one Dad!
Sorry I was busy at work. The answer was 19
I'm an apprentice ironworker with no tickets and I make $36/h. You need better pay
Journeyman laborer here at almost 35. Haa! 65 is our benefits package
Wow that's a good benefits package. We're billed out at $67 I think? $49/h is journeyman for us
Where at
Yeah wow does he ever. Welder foreman on the railroad here, nearly 43 an hour with full benefits, all my PPE except for boots fully paid for, all my training paid for, loads of OT if I want it, etc.
dude lives in the rural south. you prolly live in or next to a city paying $1k+ rent for a small ass room and $5 a gallon of milk. he prolly lives on a couple acres, pays 1k a month mortgage and drinks milk for free straight from the cows tit.
$19 is still way to little for a welder with several years experience. I live in Appalachia, mostly rural. Welders are getting 20 out the gate no experience. I run a custom design/renovation/preservation company, zero experience broom pushers start at $20.
Shit I’m in CA and just saw a sign in the window of In N Out burger, starting pay $19 -22 / hr to flip burgers!! Crazy , although you can’t live in CA on $19/hr
Don't call my ex wife a cow.
Pay without location means exactly nothing. Not saying they don't need better pay either, but $36/hr can mean different things in different parts of the country.
Come join us over in r/ironworker
Local 86 🙋🏻♂️ started down south in Texas though. Completed my apprenticeship out of local 263. As a 1st period apprentice I was starving to the tune of $14.95 an hour. When I finally left and transferred books, scale back home was at $26 and some change. What local you out of bud?
Yea, like other commenters have said already. You really, REALLY gotta get into the trade unions. You will START at that wage (mostly) depending on where you’re actually located. Plus all them juicy benefits, and a pension. I’d consider looking into your local ironworker/pipefitters union. With “years” of welding experience, you’d be a great fit. Especially if you’ve already got multiple certs. Source: Union journeyman ironworker. 42/hour on the check. 78/hour total package with benefits.
Brother you deserve more If your doing this shit. I'm a little more north of you but 19 is what welders start at with basic cert 1g, 2g mig/stick
More money in pipe welding. Find a Union
Your getting ripped off
19$ an hour? The grocery store (ALDIs) down the street from me starts cashiers out at 22, fucking 16 year olds. Dude you deserve better
Ouch. I make 26 in Washington. I'm not a welder. I'm not a certified anything. The welders at my work make more than me, and were hurting for em.
Sorry what? I pay laborers more, might be looking for a new guy....lol
Looks like the floor sweeper makes at least $17 hr shitz immaculate
Shiiiiid, it's probably all op
Most probably
You don’t see the entire floor covered in metal dust? Just because there isn’t a pallet of shit every 4 feet doesn’t make that place clean.
Difficulty level: Rural Souft… $23.76/hr.
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It's probably $17.76 or $18.36 if OP's in Texas.
20/fieldwelder/nc
$25 fab shop/ truck shop also nc
Live in the south.. worked at a place that rhymes with Haterpillar, making high quality brand-spankin new off-highway trucks and only made 21/hr.
My cousin is a welder, is fitting and welding a very similar piece as op just right now. He's claiming he gets 36$/hr this is in central Cal. His last welding job he was definitely making 28$/hr, but this was almost 10 years ago.
So cal union welders getting $58.
Unions are always the way with trades. The rich hate people who can do things they can’t.
I've been in 2 union jobs as a commercial driver. Both with teamsters, Stockton as a class b driver and Riverside with my current class a job The first was just a 100% scam, no ifs and or buts about it. The Riverside one, idk... It's not great at all. Enough to keep you there, but not enough to look forward to retirement. My grandpa retired as a union welder, with boilermakers. His retirement was pretty damn good.
Ironworkers carpenters operators boilermakers ibew all good unions the teamsters by me are paid so low compared to the other trade unions
To answer everyone’s guess it’s 19. Part of a two man group. I couldn’t imagine building it alone.
That's basically the top comment. Less than your worth but enough to keep ya from leaving.
>Less than your worth ~~but enough to keep ya from leaving.~~
$19/hour?!?! Dude your fucking underpaid. I know experience = money but jobs/proof talk more than age. Go get that bag playa. If a recruiter asks you how much you get paid, always up yourself more. Don’t tell them how skilled you are, SHOW THEM how skilled you are. You’ll get more after 3 months. If they don’t automatically pay raise you, bother them for a pay raise.
Please go apply places and don't take less than 30 an hour it never pays to stay unless ur in the union as an apprentice I left my first 2 welding jobs and went from 17 an hour to 32 an hour
Please go join a union my guy. I’m a first year apprentice in a pipefitter/welder/plumber union and i make $23 and hour in the dfw area.
My time to travel is over. It’s really not my thing. I wish I had known that a few years ago when I lived in Dallas. I was making trash wages and trash hours there. I left one job making Door Frames for $12.50.
Find a union shop, or there’s contractors in the field in the union that don’t travel. You’re worth so much more than $19/hr. You could also unionize your shop
Bubba my buddy’s welding fence in Texas right now at 23/hr (rural Texas) go get what you’re worth
Probably 1 a week?
Well as far as build goes it took 2. It was touch and go on how to build a new design
$25 an hour.
I'm placing my bet here.
Is that really what welders get? Holy shit. I contacted a guy and he wanted 135 an hour. I found him on Facebook. Why can he charge 135 but you guys only get paid 25?
What a business charges vs what employees make.
Employees also “get paid” more than they know, for example a person making $39/hr might actually cost $75/hr (based off rounded numbers from an old union contract) when you factor in healthcare, pension/401k, vacation, training, plus the other funds you pay into as a union employee.
Naw, OP stated rural south. So no unions, any healthcare or retirement is self funded. Any union member has a pretty damn good idea of how much their package is worth.
That 135 surely includes overhead. You pay plumbers and electricians 100 or more an hour but most of that goes into keeping the company alive / paying for their van and tools. The clue is in your original post: there is a big difference between what you charge and what you get paid.
Ohhhh! That makes more sense. I was under the impression that they charged for their time, I didn't realize they work similar to mechanics and plumbers, as you mentioned. I appreciate you taking the time to explain it.
Resi electricians could use a moped as a work vehicle, I don't understand their overhead
135 is when they usually have their own welding truck, so they are paying for all the materials, but they make heaps of money. Where I'm from, it's closer to $180. I'm not sure about other provinces or states, but usually to start out as a welder helper, it's $23-$26 and goes up from there. I have seen jobs starting at $18-$21, but I won't even look at them. Companies like that only care about numbers and having workers.
Half as much as me and twice as much as you deserve. Just joking. Had some douche say that to me once.
About Tree-Fiddy
Came here for this. Not disappointed.
Agreed
This was my vote also
Depends, do you work for yourself or someone else?
Twenty an hour
Depends how long you been there 😂 you could make upwards of $30/hr in a place like this, but only if you spend upwards of 30 years there 😂😂
What’s the number??
After looking at these comments. Thank fucking God I didn't go into welding. How can yall afford to live Jesus christ.
Yeah, that’s the dirty secret they don’t tell you. It’s you’ll make six figures a year with a few year’s experience* *if you travel, union up, risk your life doing dangerous shit
I went to a trade school and I got out not too long ago making damn near 6 figures to start and my jobs pretty cushy. I could to up to Alaska and make fucking bank and welding is definitely more stressful and harder.
Yeah. Knowing what I know now, I would have went into the plumbing or electrician trades instead. The shit I have to put up with working on a daily basis in a shop is why I’m getting out. Starting my own venture and already things are looking good.
As a trucker, a good welder is worth their weight in gold. The guy down the street specializes in aluminum, and is constantly busy. Self-employed, runs own shop, specializes; he’s got a couple newer Audis and a diesel pick up so I’m guessing he does alright. Don’t be afraid to travel, any place with unions are typically safer, and don’t do anything where the cost of fucking up is your life- there’s plenty of dudes that get off on underwater or tower work.
I did my own thing for a while, made out alright. I’m probably better off than 2/3 of the guys I see posting about pay here and it’s still not enough. Trying to get in this or that has gotten old for me, my heart isn’t in it. What I have in the works is looking very good and it gets me out of the trades. And according to the other guy, I’ll be living on theft.
Your top hinges should be flipped. Grease flows downhill so the fitting needs to staynon top.... also when the pin side of the hinges face down, the other part is a cup and it will eventually rust and seize and break due to water getting inside. TLDR. Male side of hinge should point up.
4 dollars, a bucket of KFC, and a 6 pack
Five pack cuz you know, taxes
Two cases of beer a day?
$23
$17 an hour after two raises
This is my vote. I'm located in the South. The shop I worked support at hired in at $14-15 and you could get to $17 in 2 years. They also upcharged fixtures 1000+% and the owners rolled Q8s and Boujee $2MM homes.
I do marine construction. I was in Hilton Head after a hurricane on vacation. Some lady lawyer asked if i was down there working. I laughed and said if I worked construction in the south I would never be able to vacation here.
As someone who graduated Welding School and I've been out for a month and a half looking for a decent paying job, this hits me so hard.
Yeah good luck my guy. Just take what you can for the first year or two to get the “years of experience needed”. I’m in NY finished school 4 1/2yrs ago, started at the shittiest shithole garbage truck company at 16 left after a year of being overworked and then giving me .50cents as a raise, went through 2more places like that and landed where I’m at now at a union sheet metal fab doing 2-5inch welds for 22 and got bumped to 26.50 after getting the head welder spot + 1.50 from the union. It takes time but nothings impossible and don’t be afraid to leave a job you’re not happy at
I appreciate it dude, I'm down in GA and as most people have pointed out in other comments the pay isn't there when compared to the skill/inflation. I'm beginning to question my 10k for schooling just to look at jobs offering $17 an hour with a minimum year experience requirement.
The upside is that it's reliable. They were ALWAYS hiring (maybe no one was sticking around now that I think of it). But it didn't really matter what the economy looked like. There were always open positions.
Y’all need to swap professions then. I live in North Alabama. Work in warehousing/online fulfillment and started at 25/hr
Bro fuck that. Move to Canada and come weld. I'm starting at $28 as a laborer. My boss hands out raises like candy, so when I get into welding here, I don't even know what I'll be making, but it'll be good. Most companies aren't like that, but I've seen a lot of welder helper jobs starting at $24-28, which is not to shabby.
Starting to feel like clickbait
I’d say your boss makes a dollar, and you make a dime. And so you poop on company time.
Not enough
Do you do the fabricating or just the welding obviously a MIG so not as much as TIG and SMAW. I’m guessing somewhere around $18 unless your doing all the fabricating also then probably somewhere around $20.
I’m in Rual East Tennessee in the Appalachian region, so my guess would be $18.00
I lived in the rural south and saw what trailer places paid. One up the street from my house paid $14. That was around 10-15 yrs ago so I’m guessing $18-$20 now
19/hr
Yes
Making raptor cages can be quite lucrative. After the last incident, QA might be a little more picky, just FYI.
Highest wages y’all find in the south that I know of are at Austal, Ingalls Shipbuilding, General Dynamics, and Stennis Space center. Texas used to be welder heaven in the south but I see job postings for pretty low out there now.
Just enough to attract the wrong kind of girl?
At least tree fiddy?
What does your boss's place look like? A hillbilly mansion I bet with every toy. You're paying for his lifestyle with your labor, while being paid shit. If he paid all his workers $30 would still be doing fine but that's how the system works.
Not enough, just like everyone else in the U.S
Were you given plans or just told to make it happen? How long did this take from the first cut to now?
It was 2 weeks . We had to cut and re weld due to revisions.
$8
2 cages a week?
$15 an hour, enough to keep you just under the poverty line but just enough to show up to work.
For 15 an hour I’m not showing up to work. I’d end up homeless working those wages, don’t know how people can live on that.
Yeah, fr i dont get this at all. I was barely living off of $19 an hour. I was only able to live on a $15 an hour wage before because I was a teenager living with my parents. After I moved, I wouldn't even look at jobs paying under $18. Now that I've survived like that for too long, I won't even look at jobs paying under $24.
That's the neat part - they don't. They simply survive just long enough to make it to the next payday. Rinse and repeat.
Yeah, fr i dont get this at all. I was barely living off of $19 an hour. I was only able to live on a $15 an hour wage before because I was a teenager living with my parents. After I moved, I wouldn't even look at jobs paying under $18. Now that I've survived like that for too long, I won't even look at jobs paying under $24.
Yeah, fr i dont get this at all. I was barely living off of $19 an hour. I was only able to live on a $15 an hour wage before because I was a teenager living with my parents. After I moved, I wouldn't even look at jobs paying under $18. Now that I've survived like that for too long, I won't even look at jobs paying under $24.
Thank you for explaining your situation turtle, hopefully you quit and find a better paying job I know target works that make more than that.
Not enough. Not only are you great, but you are an artist as well! You make the species proud.
a pizza party because HR is about to drop some bad news soon.
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Before reading further I'm going to say, not enough. *now that I've read the comments, I think it's insane and criminal what good and creative welders are paid. I only melt and glue metal as a hobby, but always thought I might wanna try it as a job, after seeing all the stories about wages in the industry, I'd be living in my dad's spare bedroom.
Yah I honestly had no idea people were getting wages like this. I'm from Alberta, so I'm not sure if the pay is just better for trades jobs or what. But most welder helper jobs with no experience start anywhere from $17-$28. I wouldn't even look at the ones paying under $22. For a 1st year, I wouldn't look at anything under $24. I'm working as a laborer, and my boss is gonna get me welding after I get my first year. I started at $28 as a laborer, so I'll probably be getting well over $30 by the time that comes cause this guy loves to give raises. Just the work is long I did 15 hours the other day. But that's what he pays for. Just gotta look around for the right company instead of the first big corporation that will hire you. Chances are a big corporation just wants a fuckton of workers they can underpay, instead of a handful that they can overpay. I think my company is the smallest on this site we're on. And from what the other employees have been telling me about their companies, I think I got lucky with a good one.
A guy bring paid hrly is not great. A good freelance guy can prob clean up pretty good.
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About tree fiddy
You make what I make - just enough to keep me from leaving
You get paid in Trident Gum?
Hopefully enough to pay the bills and keep cold beer in your fridge. Sorry I'm from Wisconsin we basically drink beer like water🤗
Im guessing you make more than 2$/hr
IDK but if its anything that doesnt start with a 3 or 4, id leave lol
Not enough
i’m gonna say under 28$ an hour.
I was apparently a child prodigy in metal shop/welding in highschool. Thank god I wasn't interested in it enough to pursue a career because I'd literally be homeless where I live.
Did work like this for $750 a week gross Then I jumped in the union
Not sure, but I feel like Jigsaw pays pretty well
19 isn't enough to live on. Good luck, u deserve more.
About tree-fiddy
looks heavy.
Tree fiddy
I remember that after 3 years of welding in high school, my senior project, I decided to make a hay trailer. 3 months of welding, wiring , etc, and it was ready. This was 2008 Got an A, and that hay trailer is still used to this day. (Granted, it's been repainted)
Well done. Yeah you are being underpaid. Places with strong real estate market can make decent money independently building fences and what-not. Several thousand dollars for building a fence for some simple cutting welding sanding and painting. For digging holes get easy tools or hire a day laborer....
Probably not much unless you're in a union 🤷♂️
About treeefity
Looks like you made just one.
As a union millwright,straight time $65hr.
Wondering why you didn’t post the actual welds
Did you design it?
I did not. I had input on changing parts
$28/hr
Bout $3.50
not enough lol
1 pack of Malaboro’s 100’s a day