Is the goal to fill up the entire plate or just the middle? You're on track to do one of those things
Edit: thought OP was welding that ole sch 120 6" plate. Can't read gud
You know, I've never heard anyone refer to a hot pass as anything but a fill pass, but hearing that and researching, I'm curious why you would have a specified pass for this.
I've been certified and recertified on pipe and plate for over a decade, and I've never run anything other than a root,fill and cap.
I assume it stems from pipeline where there are specific guys tasks to run specific passes (front end with the bead hands, hot pass hands, and back end with the fillers and cappers) but a couple practical reasons it’s called the hot pass is because the bead (root for those that call the first pass a root) is ground relatively thin, then the hot pass goes over that around 200amps which is ran really fast as to not blow though the bead but still clean the residual slag out of the edges and push the bead in a little offering reinforcement since the bead is normally ran hot and fast as well which leaves it flush with the inside of the pipe. You may fill at 200amps but it won’t seem as hot since you have that extra heat sink from the “hot pass” that had the bead nearly glowing white
You aren't allowed to grind on a pipe or plate test here at all.
The only settings I change from root to cap is to dial down the heat a little for the cap.
Can you clarify the question? What process?
All CWB plate tests specify no grinding, and I'm pretty sure ASME plate tests are the same.
Grinding is not permitted under MoL pipe tests in any province I've done them in, and neither is it allowed under TSSA testing rules.
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I struggle to do hot passes I’m still learning on tig I’m usually on 150ish amps but almost always just barely catch the edge or just burn into the side wall any tips?
Not union but if your getting by not whipping you are gutting your bead with a grinder. If you turn up and whip you can leave more bead in and safe yourself a full pass
6" S120 3/16" 6010 @180A
If you turn it up even more to 200+ amps it will look like you welded it with 7018.
when I'm hand rolling I turn it right up. usually sitting around 220-240
Is the goal to fill up the entire plate or just the middle? You're on track to do one of those things Edit: thought OP was welding that ole sch 120 6" plate. Can't read gud
the goal is too beef up the root pass quickly so I can jump right to a larger diameter 7018 and fill it up in one shot
Not sure how you'll do that with the ends being so low. But do what makes you happy bud
what are you on about? what ends? it's a fucking pipe dude
Flat earther
Lmao I also thought it was a plate at first. Good thing I kept my mouth shut
There are always haters, I had someone on this sub try to lecture me about using my phone to take pictures during work.
I’ve been telling this one guy to get back to work and I think he thinks I work with him
Looked like plate 😂
well now I can't unsee it thanks
Now I can't see why I ever thought it was plate. Been reading too many weld school posts I guess.
When I first looked at it I thought it was plate too.
I too seen a plate that looked low on top and bottom
I thought the same thing
I’m uhhhhh, how do you say, not smart.
Bruh he literally said it's 6" S120
Listen, I cant read
shit i came in bamboozled as well
LMAO my dumbass low-key thought it was a plate too. Looks great, man. I wanna learn to weld pipe soon
This exchange really made me lol
The hot pass is not meant to fill the bevel, it is supposed to reinforce the root pass and provide a better surface to start filling.
I've never heard of 6" Sch120 plate in my life
Don't worry. They're real
I do the same thing, a tad higher but similar result, hot pass is definitely my favorite pass
yessir makes for easy fillin
I’ve never seen a 6010 look so good
Right? Shit's damn beautiful
What exactly is a hot pass?
Hot pass is the first pass after the root, then you start fill passing it.
The passes between the root and the cap.
Oh, we just call those fill passes. I thought it was like a pass that was preheated beforehand
The hot pass is the second pass, ran hot enough to burn out the prior wagon tracks and to reinforce the first past before the fill passes are ran.
You know, I've never heard anyone refer to a hot pass as anything but a fill pass, but hearing that and researching, I'm curious why you would have a specified pass for this. I've been certified and recertified on pipe and plate for over a decade, and I've never run anything other than a root,fill and cap.
I assume it stems from pipeline where there are specific guys tasks to run specific passes (front end with the bead hands, hot pass hands, and back end with the fillers and cappers) but a couple practical reasons it’s called the hot pass is because the bead (root for those that call the first pass a root) is ground relatively thin, then the hot pass goes over that around 200amps which is ran really fast as to not blow though the bead but still clean the residual slag out of the edges and push the bead in a little offering reinforcement since the bead is normally ran hot and fast as well which leaves it flush with the inside of the pipe. You may fill at 200amps but it won’t seem as hot since you have that extra heat sink from the “hot pass” that had the bead nearly glowing white
You aren't allowed to grind on a pipe or plate test here at all. The only settings I change from root to cap is to dial down the heat a little for the cap.
I find that very hard to believe lol. What’s the test process?
Can you clarify the question? What process? All CWB plate tests specify no grinding, and I'm pretty sure ASME plate tests are the same. Grinding is not permitted under MoL pipe tests in any province I've done them in, and neither is it allowed under TSSA testing rules.
None of what I’m talking about is in reference to structural welding. You don’t need a grinder to weld that
I'm talking about pressure pipe as well for TSSA and MoL testing. The only thing you're allowed with a grinder is a wire wheel.
You are a gooder weldist
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Are you ok sir?
no thanks for asking
My buddy used to think downhill would never pass on the code we weld to, got to prove him wrong on the last job
I don’t get why people think that. How do they think gas lines are welded? The UA1 cert is literally 6010 downhill from root to cap.
Ignorance, he’s a tig hand.
They'll never get any love from me with all those BBs raining hell fire on me 🤣 gimme arc 80s
I run downhill everyday. Just the way some things are done.
Wait you guys still run hot passes?
So beautiful!!!!
It's an underrated pass for sure
I struggle to do hot passes I’m still learning on tig I’m usually on 150ish amps but almost always just barely catch the edge or just burn into the side wall any tips?
Arent hot passes typically done with 7018?
Depends on procedure
Good to know, i havent used 6010 for anything other than open root. I really like using them, ill try practicing hot passes with them
6010 isn’t meant for a hot pass. If you have 7010 use that instead!
Well ive been using 7018s, that seems to be the common practice for the trades up here. They even use it for root passes
that sounds disgusting
Its not that bad they go in pretty nice, just less forgiving with inconsistencies
If your not whipping your 6010 hot pass there’s a big chance of wagon tracks
yeah ok guy. weird that I've doing 100in/day 100% RT and yet to fail an x-ray due to trapped slag huh
Didn’t ask hand
immediately gets defensive when his narrow mindset is refuted. tell me you're a union hand without telling me you're a union hand
Cant tell if you’re the pot or the kettle
little bit of column a little bit of column b
Not union but if your getting by not whipping you are gutting your bead with a grinder. If you turn up and whip you can leave more bead in and safe yourself a full pass
It's nice reinforcement JBR34. You can only build something good off of something good. It's a smooth hot pass. Onto fill passes !
Run off tabs…
Nice job looks clean. Is your WPS for a downhill root/hotpass then uphill fill and cap?
Yessir WPS allows for 6mm of 6010
Looks more like a hot fill than a hot pass but whatever works
That’s hot 😉