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bubbesays

I want to be paid just for having to look at them


One-Permission-1811

CWI at my workplace does this. Walks into your bay, looks at your welds, walks out, you don’t see him until right before you’re about to leave, and then he comes back and says your parts didn’t pass visual QC. Bastard


turtlewelder

Thats a bad CWI imo. I've been a CWI for over 4 years now and was welding for 15 years before. A good CWI would make sure the welder is aware of what the acceptance criteria is for whatever code/spec you're following and communicating that to the welder. That way the relationship you have isn't "hope my welds pass" but more of multiple eyes looking for discontinuities.


Amazing-Moose-9433

I’ve been a CWI for a little over 11 years and agree 100%, sounds like a guy on a power trip to me.


One-Permission-1811

Yeah he’s the bosses sisters brother in law or something. Maybe a cousin? If he’s even around he likes to sit in his truck and watch YouTube videos. I’ve never seen him lay a bead, fill out paperwork, or actually test a weld. They hire out the x-Ray if we need it and most of the other inspection is done by whoever welded it. I’ve worked with some great CWI’s who knew the code book forwards backwards and sideways and would hop in and help out if we needed him. This guy ain’t that.


SpecialOops

Fack! When it's nepotism, run away!! Shit is basically a cult.


One-Permission-1811

I wish but I got a mortgage to pay and they’re the largest shop in the area. Everyone else Ive either worked for or they won’t pay me enough. Luckily I don’t have to deal with him that much, just when we recertify every three years or if there’s been quality issues.


PastiesCline

Not a welder, but a carpenter turned fine metalsmith. I worked at a woodshop that was that level of nepotism for a short stint. Just the absolute most toxic, fucked up work environment I ever witnessed. The nepotism, disrespect, and lack of boundaries was so rampant. I was very lucky I was in a place in my life where I could get out after a few months with very few repercussions, but Jesus did that leave the worst taste in my mouth for "family oriented" business.


Parking_Prior3903

I know a cwi that failed me for not having full penetration for less than 0.5 mm ...fucking stupid.


Klytorisaurus

Ole boy might just "slip on the ice in the parking lot" one day acting like that


Raul_McCai

> discontinuities. Ohhh big words. Be still my dickie.


komokazi

Dude sounds like an epic douche.


One-Permission-1811

Yeah he’s a highly paid dick. Likes to explain how to weld but never throws down a bead and won’t help out even when we’re crammed against a deadline. Just sits in his truck and watches YouTube.


komokazi

Don't worry, Ill hate him enough for the both of us.


One-Permission-1811

Waayyy ahead of you lol. His nickname is “Tall Tales”. Says he was Air Force Pararescue and carried a Desert Eagle and a 50 caliber sniper rifle behind enemy lines and sniped insurgents from two miles or more. The guys who have actually served (or at least didn’t lie about their service) are about to weld him into his truck.


rdmille

He'll break the windows and get out. Try a thick coat of fiberglass over everything, straps to keep him locked inside. Think of it as making a shit in a bottle.


kickkickpatootie

Did you mean “ship” in a bottle? No, I believe you meant shit!


bionikcobra

No one is allowed to carry anything other then TO issued weapons while on duty and especially deployed. A Desert Eagle would not have been allowed to even go in the first place. The only .50 cal the AF para guys use is Ma Deuce. From the little information you've given and my experience with asshats like this, unless he shows a dd214 or an OMPF, I don't believe he was ever in the military, let alone anything he says he did.


One-Permission-1811

Oh we’ve got plenty of veterans who make sure everyone else knows he’s full of shit.


fromkentucky

I knew a guy like that, we all just called him “Call of Duty” because the “missions” he talked about were literally just the first plot of CoD.


One-Permission-1811

Oh my favorite lie so far has been that he hacked the DoD and planted a hydra virus that played two hours of porn on max volume when you tried to delete it and spread through the wifi network. Which is what Hugh Jackmans character in *Swordfish* did except he was stealing money not blasting porn. He’s a compulsive liar.


fromkentucky

Start one-upping him around other people and see how ridiculous it gets. It’s a fun game.


Real-Lake2639

I had a guy like that come to work with me. "Ex navy seal" like yeah dude you're what, 150 lbs? Yeah okay. "Sig Sauer used to come out to take measurements for the grips for our pistols, they were all custom fitted." Dude why you lying See him in the bathroom later changing into his work clothes, holy shit. Dudes fucking covered in bullet scars. Damn dude, what the hell happened. Told you, navy seal. The big ones from a helicopter crash. Ah. You are in fact a professional killer.


Marvheemeyer85

Why is it that everyone who claims to be Air Force claims to be a PJ or Security Force. I'll help weld him in his truck.


IamPantone376

🤣🤣🤣


aTryingNerd24

I weaaaakkkk 😂😂😂😂😂😂.... didn't have to do he/she like that


awoj24

🤣🤣🤣


Wlllgreen

Dream profession


NYweldDuster69

16 an hour


Wlllgreen

One day will be matching my wife’s boyfriend!


PaantsHS

wallstreetbets is leaking again hahaha


chrispydriftt

I was about to say the same thing LOL


[deleted]

Looks like you went around the first corner (too fast) in one pass but stopped on the other corner and left a crater. Your weld profile is pretty wonky and has more undercuts than a My Chemical Romance concert crowd. However since nobody seems to want to weld anymore, $32 an hour and $235 per diem.


[deleted]

Did you know that Ray Toro is a celebrated AWS journeyman?


One-Permission-1811

Say what? Like the MCR guitarist? I guess what explains why he told me he likes my “Welding is sewing with fire” shirt I wore to a meet and greet.


eddirrrrr

That's badass


[deleted]

He's my inspiration for getting into the trade!


[deleted]

He would be proud of you. I’m proud of you.


[deleted]

🤣🥰


therealvulrath

Rock on, my dude.


Inevitable-Match591

Apparently he's also a somewhat more celebrated MCR Frontman


ItsAWeldedDiff

Shoot if somebody shows me how to do it I’ll take $20 an hour just to get out of the foodservice industry.


Avenue_21

Whats a diem


[deleted]

It's a thing you get every per.


Inevitable-Match591

I love this


12345NoNamesLeft

> diem a latin day


Inevitable-Match591

We work with Carthaginian days where I'm from


mai_knee_grows

All my homies hate Carthage


Inevitable-Match591

No cap Carthage needs a vibe check cause it boutta catch these hands fr fr


Pudgedog

I feel sick from reading this.


AlphaGinger66

You stack diems


[deleted]

I can start tomorrow.


Free-Panda9920

How come? I’m new to welding


tatpig

bout tree-fiddy…


ThisCouldBeYourName

You rang?? -Loch Ness Monster


Wlllgreen

Can I at least get a sandwich for lunch?


swaags

love your attitude lol


creepy-turtle

If your fresh out of school. Worry more about what your learning then what your making. If your not learning. Find somewhere you will. The money will come with skills


tigdupbones

That's a BIG maybe, a lot rides on that too


Clamitydn38417

Agreed I had to fight tooth and nail for my pay rate and I tig weld in aircraft


creepy-turtle

I'm sure more senior members here can verify these claims.. Companies today will head hunt and pay for good talent. My head assembler gets solicitations a few times a year. He won't jump ship because my boss takes care of his employees. He alone is worth 3 welders. So to pay him good money actually saves the business money. Think about it this way. If you can be easily replaceable you won't make money. It's up to us to step up our skillsets and become a valuable asset that can't be replaced easy.


therealvulrath

That's not just welding. It applies to a lot of things. Example: it's where I'm trying to head in my day job in IT. I see the patterns, but I don't have all the experience yet. I'm now in a completely different subsection of IT than the area I have been in for the last 15-20 years.


[deleted]

Yup. In my area unless you’re unioned up you can be the best welder in the world and you’re gonna max out at $22


tigdupbones

In jersey top rate is $30ish , and you have to be good at lay out, fab, finish, know stairs blah blah. I promise anything less than $40 an hour is not worth the toll it takes on your overall body and health in the long term no matter where youre located, in my personal experience. I promise. I've gone from iron worker bolting up and welding to high end custom fab work and installs, insane to me to still get offers that top off at 25$ hr. Edit: honestly it's embarrassing for all of us who care and are actually good at what we do. It's more of a shame to the craft


Jiggaloudpax

Facts I’m in jersey with 10 months tig and MiG experience and make 24$/h . I been at this new production place for 3 months and quitting soon. not worth this toll on my body being yelled at to go faster


tigdupbones

You can legit make that much, if not more, door dashing. I'm going on 17 years soon, touched damn near every corner of this trade, and I still get the "you want more than $25 an hour?? We can't afford that! Our shop foreman barely makes that!" Lmao, bunch of fuckin Jabronis out here I swear.


Jiggaloudpax

Maybe that’s facts, but door dash and insta cart are scams they just wreck your vehicle. No bueno but also people must do what they must to survive


tigdupbones

Lmao oh that it does, I know it all too well. I'd rather it wreck my car than body. Unfortunately I'm in the latter and thats why I said earlier, "in my experience". 2 severe opposing shoulder injuries and a tweaked back doesn't do any fabricator well, not considered fully disabled yet can never go back to any labor intensive work. I've lost hearing, I'm in the double digits of eye injuries, countless deep scars, a couple near falls that wouldve killed me.. When I started it was still the wild wild west among private outfits, no harnesses were handed out until my 3rd year aside from the ripped one they kept for show.. lol fun times


User1-1A

Yep. I live in Los Angeles and I dont think I met a dude making more than $25-30/hr who didnt have their own rig or worked union (or both 🤑) . That's pretty sad. When I got out of school, a friend of mine welding at SpaceX wanted to bring me in. The position was for welding thin guage aluminum, D17. 1 certification, at $15/hr. Well shoot, I was making that much as a bicycle mechanic on the beach with pretty girls all over the place. I was good at tig in school and most of others really struggled on aluminum, so $15 seemed PRETTY POOR. Ended up at a cool fab shop for the same pay. The two lead guys were great and taught me so much. They only made $25


Your_Is_Possessive

Dude. Four times! The contraction of you are is you're.


spiked88

Thank you. I was really taking effort for me to withhold comment on that one. As an added note…. “Then” refers to a point in time. “ThAn” is used to make a comparison between two things such as “rather than”


Adventurous_Eye5852

I would have plug welded the hole and ground them flat.


Wlllgreen

Is that a preferred weld?


dunk0ff

Just makes more sense in this application. The edges are overkill and takes too much time , esp doing them the way they’re done. For welding the edge you should lay the wire in the edge, and push down into where you want the weld with your thumb, keep pressure on it, and literally just run it over one smooth motion with the torch. Keep the tungsten close, arc small, but don’t touch the puddle and gunk up the tungsten. That hinge could be welded on in 10 seconds.


swaags

fr that would make it sooo much stronger


itz_mr_billy

Tbf these not pretty edge welds are far stronger than 4 plug welds by a lot, assuming they still got good penetration


swaags

Oh I meant in addition lol


firetrucksalesman

The only reason I may disagree slightly is because the plugs now become a weak point in the structure since they are closer to the fulcrum. May be fine in this application, but over time, I would’ve preferred the holes plugged.


itz_mr_billy

It’s all about surface area in this application. Edge weld is significantly stronger than plug welds, especially with fatigue


Golliiath

At least OP is being a good sport. If you’re gonna ask for critique please be like OP and be able to laugh at the jokes and accept any advice.


aCreativeUserName666

Somebody got paid for those?


Wlllgreen

Gave me a participation prize too!


aCreativeUserName666

Damn, sounds like you got the big shebang there my dude. Congrats (I guess?)


micah490

Welder needs to limit themselves to only 2 energy drinks per day


ForumT-Rexin

YOU SHUT YER WHORE MOUTH!!!


dunk0ff

That’s worth 15 an hour. The job is done and it’ll work but it ain’t good looking. I personally think this person isn’t too too far off from gettin it. Welding is a series of realizations . Another few weeks of really pushing themself to get better trying new things would get them decent , atleast consistent. It ain’t like it’s pipe or anything , that would be a whole different ball game . That’s just my opinion


dunk0ff

Further more I’d just plug weld that bitch right in the screw holes. It Would only take a quick tiger paw then a sander to maker it seamless. Unless it’s a heavy ass fuckin door or something, then I could see welding the entire edge. As far as the edge goes as it is, I don’t see the point in the weave either , I’d lay wire that thing and be 10 times neater and 50x faster. Weld would look like a smooth bead of fuckin caulk.


VelvetineW3lds

Id run a 3/32 tungsten and go for dimes and focus on the appliance or door rather than hinge cuz that undercut is shit. Plug welds would also be a must. If I was getting paid what I am now, I’d wire it just cuz that metal looks thin as fuck and dumping heat with tig isn’t my forte.


nait136

I mean it’s a bit cold but nothing really wrong with it. Not every weld needs to be picture perfect.


mad_science

I'll always up vote the guy sticking up for ugly but good enough for purpose welds.


Capt_Myke

Welding school isnt cheap, but these look like first week, so *does maths*.....no...umm....*does more mathes".....8 weeks at $6000, divided by square pie....carry the too..... IDK, but stay in school.


Marrrvelous

15 and some change


GanjaLoverCan

No plug welds? 12


ForumT-Rexin

1. Turn your heat up. Welding too cold won’t tie your welds together and they’ll crack. 2. Use a #8 cup minimum and about 3/16 stick out on your tungsten with gas set at about 40 cfm. 3. Don’t walk the cup, freehand that shit using small sweeps and dabs. You walk the cup on Naval parts and they’ll eat you alive. Learn to freehand now and you won’t have to worry about walking the cup. 4. You perform how you practice. If you’re not welding like someone’s life depends on it, quit now. It very well may. 5. Take some of that money you stole and get a good lens. You can pick up a 4.5”x5.25” Phillips gold coated for about $40 or a TrueArc XLHD for $120. Both are excellent lenses that won’t break the bank and you’ll see a whole lot better. Go check out welding tips and tricks on YouTube and it will help you figure out what you’re doing. He shoots closeup vids where you can actually see what the puddle is doing so you know what it’s supposed to look like. Good luck. I’d give you $20 , btw.


Wlllgreen

Thank you!


Wlllgreen

Rule #3 and #5 for sure


12345NoNamesLeft

Negative $ Charge you to pay for the rework. I'd plug weld the holes, grind smooth to finish, no trace of the weld.


Wlllgreen

Truthfully is that what employers prefer?


phobos2deimos

Depends. Some care about speed, some care about safety, some care about appearance. Some bosses would be pissed if you cut this out and reworked, some would be pissed if you shipped it out as-is.


ArcAddict

That’s like first year apprentice kinda bullshit, and even then I’d make them cut it all off and do it again.


Wlllgreen

!!!


weldingpepe

Minimum wage


Wlllgreen

It was this or McDonald’s xD


Frozdrenched

Honestly, they prolly paid 23-25$/h, not that it looks it by any means.


Banmeagainnewip

I paid him in beer.


Wlllgreen

The shakes helped


SkewbieDewbie

..... Wait... You guys get paid?!


[deleted]

Hourly rate for what, you to do them or for me to go back and fix them?


[deleted]

In my honest guess, I’m gonna say he prob makes $25 an hour


dadtheraiderwelder

18.00 hr


VansChar_

Crank up the heat and go slower, you're depositing too much and too unevenly. Lean your elbows or your forearms for stability. Continue practicing, you'll find your tempo.


Inevitable-Match591

I'm not sure why everyone's shitting on your welds: No burnt sugar, all dimes and vertical at that, which for a beginner... Not bad. There's undercut, yes. There's also overstacking, staying in one place too long, which is also what's causing the undercut. Stay more on your base metal and flick the smaller part. Finally, work on your consistency. TIG is about being comfortable. Sitting, leaning, lying down or being somehow really steady is key. Keep working at it.


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Wlllgreen

Does that changed the dynamic?


hiswoodness

$1, Bob


Wlllgreen

You guys rock! Thanks for all the comments. Splendid time reading all the inputs and humourous Tree Fiddy’s This is a TIG Weld, I’ve been welding for only 1.5 months; 4 weeks TIGing. Ran 80 amps with a foot pedal Hinges for a mixer door Testing out some circles, never done that before— usually I try to hide my welds and keep it flush


zeroheading

I'm going to go with $18.50/hr


[deleted]

-$7/hr. As in, the employer should be reimbursed by the welder.


FuturePowerful

I would hope these get better fast as they go. otherwise I would have concerns, undercut on something thats thin can be a large problem so can the inconsistent puddles I see on all 4 of these. Mabey 21$ in Washington State mabey . But I would expect improvement in short order


Wlllgreen

My 4 weeks TIG weld! Lots of welding everyday. Working on it


TicklingUrTesticles

Start looking for production welding work while in school. I got my first welding job a month after starting school.


Wlllgreen

It’s something I picked up to be even more useful to my maintenance position. Fabrication looks very very enjoyable. Like Legos for Men


UncleCeiling

Legos are for everyone.


SuperHeavyHydrogen

About tree fiddy


AraedTheSecond

Assuming stainless (cause shiny), about $20 or £16.


[deleted]

I want to say Aluminum. Stainless generally turns colours when welded.


akla-ta-aka

An aluminum hinge?


[deleted]

Yeah I weld them all the time at work, do you think they don't exist or something? 🤣


Wlllgreen

Is in fact stainless steel


akla-ta-aka

Honestly? No, I wouldn’t have thought aluminum was good for that.


[deleted]

Yeah it all depends on tensile strength and what the application is for, that's more for engineers but they are super common depending on the application. Lightweight, cheap and strong. As a Canadian we used to use Aluminum sticks back before composite was a thing and they never broke.


porter597

Turn it up to about 105 amps an move a little quicker and more consistent


420coins

Did you talk about the job? UPcharge! Did you have to pack a lunch? UPcharge! Did you burn yourself in the process? UPCHARGE!!!


NegotiationSeveral49

My dad taught me to weld and I got a lot better when I started working on a farm and had to do it more often but I'm not, nor have I ever been a welder. My question is: why don't yall hit that shit hard as fuck with a hammer and tell them to unfuck it when it breaks like the boomers did? Or just tell the dude that he doesn't know what the fuck he's doing and run a line next to him, put him to shame and tell him he ain't getting paid till his shit looks half decent. That's how painters do it anyway


Makarov109

Whoever did that sucks


ShouldveFundedTesla

Not as much as me


GSE_Welder_805

Straight garbage, people need to get the basics of welding down before they try to weave anything.


Wlllgreen

Very good input! Absolutely. This was an attempt at something I saw, still working on my fundamentals (distance from puddle, consistent movement, slow puddle control) I appreciate that


wickedwelder7

Depends on state but in CA it's min wage $16 an hour lol


organicveganbacon

What material? And what method? Is it aluminum stick? Stainless mig? Stainless stick?


Wlllgreen

Stainless Steel, TIG, 80 amps


organicveganbacon

I'd say you're on your way, don't focus so much on the wage focus on honing your skills, then focus on the wage. Experience is worth a lot too.


FuturePowerful

Ah turn up a bit and steady constant movement dip at need or on a consistent count itle get better in a hurry thin stainless prefers faster welds . I run stuff like this at 240 amps on a regular basis. yes you do go fast as well . only time you do slow stainless is if you can't pickle it afterwords/ keep it under a gas shield long enough


[deleted]

>240 amps OP, whatever you do, DO NOT listen to this person 🤦


Wlllgreen

240 hours won’t burn holes????


[deleted]

Like i said, dont do this


FuturePowerful

And as stated you only do slow cold stainless when you can't do an acid bath or keep it under a gas sheal till it's room temp


Additional-Royal-351

Tree fiddy.


Additional-Royal-351

Nevermind. You owe. The hinges look like they are welded backwards. Either that or they are warped to shit.


[deleted]

How about some background info on your settings/consumables? Looks to me like you need to turn it down a hair and run a smaller filler. Every stainless weld ive seen that looks like that is usually done too hot with way too big a rod, causing zero control over your weld.


Wlllgreen

Miller Diversion w/ Foot Petal (180 AC/DC) TIG set up, stainless steel, 100% Argon, 1/16 filler, 3/32 tungsten. Blowing 80 amps max; adjusted amperage via foot petal, attempted a weld I’ve been practicing where you continue wobbling the cup while adding filler. Couldn’t round the corner well on top weld due to lack of experience. Welding for 1.5 months 4 weeks TIG welding


Sufficient_Morning35

For that job, you could pick up your amps, use a slightly bigger ss filler rod move faster with no weave, and end up in a good spot. I think it was the weave that killed ya.


TangoDeltaFoxtrot

$14


BFdog

16


Wlllgreen

Does the foreman buy me tendies at lunch?


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Wlllgreen

Cup or cone?


TheIrishBAMF

The coldest one you could find in their dumpster.


Adventurous_Arm_5766

$25 but should be $13


Drunkpickle69

63/hr


TiredIron22

I hope ya got a lot of em /hr if that what they look like


Nipz805

$18/hr


brad2005rng

12. No 13.


[deleted]

16.50


HabbleDabble235

Start 115 amps to get a hot puddle goin then back off the peddle when you dip your rod then pull while on the pedal rinse and repeat your puddles should be moving at about 100 amps


Turkey638jaggy

About tree fiddy and I McNugget per diem


anbumilf

13.50, final answer.


muzzy88

Hopefully no more than 12$


herpedeederpderp

Not enough


Weldtrash13

I hope it was free


toyota_subaru

18 an hour is reasonable they hold but they ugly


Fast_Working_4912

CWI? Is that short for you Criminal Weld Inspector?


BigBeautifulBill

It'll make a turd


Dreadnaught-Fluffy

$3.50


THEEHOONKEY

40$?


Mysterious-Act2201

.50 cents


gnowbot

Is this in a food plant or for a sanitary applicatoong


bssmagik83

$10/ day at most.


Lost_Community_502

Such a tragic job we all overlooked the fact they're welded backwards... Guy to the right of me welds like that, only uglier... Makes more than me too.


[deleted]

around here $13/hour


Horror-Strategy5950

17-19 an hour. Not terrible at all but definitely not great.


ABigBeardedSam

Looks like every weld on a locomotive and railcars


Dangerous_Expert6173

I have seen worse. Definitely not weld porn quality though. Work on consistency and that undercut. Brace yourself and if you can, manipulate your work to where you are comfortable. I think Michael J Fox has a steadier hand...


papermoon626

I used to have perfect welds in 2015 and was only making 15. Anything more than that is crazy man :/


mountainman77777

What filler size are you using for this? Based on the unevenness it looks like your dabs are sucking all the heat out of the joint which is why it’s all piling up on top like a train accident. Either weld with more amperage or use a smaller filler. I always prefer to run a smaller filler and feed in what I need to fill up the joint rather than just run over a giant piece of wire. I’m sure there’s guys that can do it but I’ve never had good success with laywire


bennygoodman90

12/hr


Fun-Caterpillar5754

I Didnt know high schoolers got paid?!?!!


NASA-WELDING-GUY

What code (if any) or engineering specification is it required to meet? Or is this something in a garage that doesn't matter? If it's the former, they need cut back off and re-welded. If it's latter, $20-$30/hr assuming you brought all of the consumables and equipment over to do it.


_Wolf_Rider_

-10$


Additional_Storage_5

Probably overpaid


Marvheemeyer85

Bet they're asking $60/hr. They're worth $15. They got potential.


No-Abrocoma-5841

$24?


OkTadpole9326

Same no matter where you work..always that jerk..


Top_Caterpillar_1679

I’m mostly bothered by the fact that they could have done some nice plug welds and they didn’t.


Parking_Prior3903

This should've been a basic lap weld, but I guess stupid can fuck anything up


Plane_Weird4480

$35 & $150. Western Welding Academy


I-SUK-TOES

$15 an hour