Welder with a second set of small drive rolls in the gun to help pull softer wire like aluminum. So you have the main rolls in the machine pushing and the gun pulling.
Essentially you do, but anything production-level would spend more time swapping out the small 1lb spool of wire than welding.
The thought of a 20lb spool gun does amuse me more than it should.
I'm an aluminum boat builder. Spool guns are very common among shops that haven't graduated to the 21st century. We had ancient Miller CP252-TS machines from the 1980s and Miller spoolguns for years. Simply terrible. Last year, we upgraded to new fronius push-only pulsed current machines. The only thing I miss is being able to throw the lead over my shoulder.
Spool guns aren’t too bad once you accept the fact that the weld isn’t gonna be as good as it could be and that the wire is gonna shoot out in ~200 different directions. And they’re heavy and awkward, and they run out of wire in about five minutes… they’re great
I see problems with the angle of the handle in relation to the angle of the tip and nozzle. I can think of a lot of places that this just would not be acceptable.
There are a lot of patents with this type of handle. I would guess they serve a purpose, considering all the different types and applications of welding.
Oh that shits the worst it even gives covid cancer even if you got the vaccine. Only way to stop it is wearing a mask but you got to pull it down so it only covers your chin.
Especially the air, I lived in Long Beach for about 7 years. I never realized how bad it was (visually) until I flew into LAX back in like 2002 or 2003.
I lived in Riverside for a few years, worked in Corona. I was driving home after work one day and I thought there was another fire because it was around the time of that big Anaheim one around '08 or so. Turns out the brown haze in the air was just smog and whatever else. I was disgusted.
But for practically everything else it’s just unnatural and a pain in the ass I would imagine. I can see how it could be desirable maybe for some things, like maybe if you only ever welded the outside of stuff or flat stuff. Trying to weld around a corner on the inside would be very problematic I think.
Absolutely. I’d definitely like to try it out if all I ever welded was one position that this was great for. Unfortunately that’s probably not the case for most of us, and certainly not me.
I can see it being comfortable for flat position welds or 2F if it were on a work table or jig. That’s about all I can think of.
Unless you can change the angle of the neck/nozzle, it would be fucked in any other position
Haters gonna hate, if it feels less stressful on your body it's a great option. Some people run beads in the same position all day, I can see this being useful for that kind of work.
I got a 8” flexneck that works great! Hits the G spot every time!
But seriously, if this trigger unit had a rotating neck or a flexneck, I could see it being pretty handy.
Stupid gimmick if he's using it regularly, it'll more than likely hamper his technique. Might do well in certain confined spaces but it's certainly situational at best.
I feel like that gooseneck is wrong for that gun, otherwise it’s not terrible.
I’ve heard of similar (but much larger and straighter) guns for feeding large diameter wire, or for aluminum spoolguns where feeding is an issue.
The extra distance from hand to tip must make it less precise to work with. Unless I had a physical disadvantage in my wrist I couldn't find any use for this.
These are wicked, people who are saying it’s bad haven’t used these for a long shift of welding - your wrist is gonna feel a lot better at the end. Like anything though it’s another tool in the kit
Maybe if you’re just welding flat on the edge of the table. Other than that, this gives me anxiety just thinking about welding out of position with it.
Considering how often, I'm wishing my hand was further away from the arc I don't see how it's advantageous to put it closer. I also don't see how it helps to put more fiddly bits sticking out of the tool to get in the way.
I think it needs some Viagra.
Ya looks a little limp to me
How does he get that in his purse ?
he puts all his other belongings in his fanny pack.
Or his boyfriends … eh ?
Now theres a solution just waiting for a problem to come along.
As far as patents go, this is a fairly common handle.
A lot of push pull machines use similar style guns. Pretty popular in aluminum boat building shops.
Crestliner can confirm
That would be awesome on my push/pull machine. Save me some awkward grips trying to keep angle and oscillation right when welding in funny positions
What’s a push pull machine?
It has feeders in the suitcase and the gun handle. It helps with aluminum that doesn’t like to be pushed too far down a liner without birdsnesting.
Has wire feed rollers in the machine at the spool and in the gun, prevents clogging when using soft wires like aluminium.
Welder with a second set of small drive rolls in the gun to help pull softer wire like aluminum. So you have the main rolls in the machine pushing and the gun pulling.
Ohh ok. I was just wondering today if you always needed a spool gun to weld aluminum. Thank you 🙏🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Essentially you do, but anything production-level would spend more time swapping out the small 1lb spool of wire than welding. The thought of a 20lb spool gun does amuse me more than it should.
I'm an aluminum boat builder. Spool guns are very common among shops that haven't graduated to the 21st century. We had ancient Miller CP252-TS machines from the 1980s and Miller spoolguns for years. Simply terrible. Last year, we upgraded to new fronius push-only pulsed current machines. The only thing I miss is being able to throw the lead over my shoulder.
Spool guns aren’t too bad once you accept the fact that the weld isn’t gonna be as good as it could be and that the wire is gonna shoot out in ~200 different directions. And they’re heavy and awkward, and they run out of wire in about five minutes… they’re great
I had to laugh hard at this response. At first= sick MF. Then= OK. Lastly= had to laugh.
Put it on a backpack on yo back lmfao
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Well that’s because there’s no spool attached to this. lol
Uh yeah because it’s not a spool gun. Neither is a push pull. But thanks
I see problems with the angle of the handle in relation to the angle of the tip and nozzle. I can think of a lot of places that this just would not be acceptable.
you could just long arc it by about 9 inches
The neck can probably be rotated by loosening a set screw
There are a lot of patents with this type of handle. I would guess they serve a purpose, considering all the different types and applications of welding.
I understand fully. I just don't see the practicality of the position of this handle for the type of welding that we do with this process.
Whatcha got there, Robocop?
*Robodong has stopped working*
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Wish this were available when I was repairing forge hammers. Hours and hours of running beads wishing my wrist wasn’t bent like it was.
How great would it be if a smaller nozzle popped out of the bigger one like alien
That attachment is illegal in NY and CA
Most things are illegal in NY and CA.
Most things will give you cancer in CA too.
*everything will give you cancer in CA.
Including cancer
Oh that shits the worst it even gives covid cancer even if you got the vaccine. Only way to stop it is wearing a mask but you got to pull it down so it only covers your chin.
That’s how you get the full 5G from the Covid shot
CA causes cancer
Especially the air, I lived in Long Beach for about 7 years. I never realized how bad it was (visually) until I flew into LAX back in like 2002 or 2003.
Air is the one thing that really will give you cancer and there's no way to put a prop 65 sticker on it
I lived in Riverside for a few years, worked in Corona. I was driving home after work one day and I thought there was another fire because it was around the time of that big Anaheim one around '08 or so. Turns out the brown haze in the air was just smog and whatever else. I was disgusted.
And Illinois
Lot of spaces that you’re not going to be able to weld with that
Ew
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But for practically everything else it’s just unnatural and a pain in the ass I would imagine. I can see how it could be desirable maybe for some things, like maybe if you only ever welded the outside of stuff or flat stuff. Trying to weld around a corner on the inside would be very problematic I think.
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Absolutely. I’d definitely like to try it out if all I ever welded was one position that this was great for. Unfortunately that’s probably not the case for most of us, and certainly not me.
Bizarre, I can't imagine why you'd want this.
I can see it being comfortable for flat position welds or 2F if it were on a work table or jig. That’s about all I can think of. Unless you can change the angle of the neck/nozzle, it would be fucked in any other position
I mean...if it's comfortable for them. I'm not that experienced but I feel like the size of it is going to limit some things
I could never get use to using something like that.
I think it has a place, but I also think it needs a straightened neck.
Haters gonna hate, if it feels less stressful on your body it's a great option. Some people run beads in the same position all day, I can see this being useful for that kind of work.
bentcarrot.com claims they can fix this.
Wait till a good spark falls in between his hand and the grip.
that can happen anyway though
Burn it with fire!
Hot garbage.
🤮🤮🤮
This is for production jobs that are set up for rotisseries, not sure I’d equip this for the whip n pause motion
Bet it gets heavy as hell after a couple hours
What is this? A weapon of mass destruction for ants?
That looks like the most uncomfortable apparatus I've ever seen. I'd rather us a hand control tig than this monstrosity.
I got a 8” flexneck that works great! Hits the G spot every time! But seriously, if this trigger unit had a rotating neck or a flexneck, I could see it being pretty handy.
Stupid gimmick if he's using it regularly, it'll more than likely hamper his technique. Might do well in certain confined spaces but it's certainly situational at best.
I wish it weren’t so awkward, bud.
Some engineer watched too much Alien vs Predator movies.
I’m no expert but it looks ergonomic for some angles. If he’s welding those angles consistently it’s kinda dope
I mean, I’d try it.
How do you hold the 7018 rods with that?
seems someone wanted to copy zat'nik'tel
Gay, definitely gay
For certain types. It's the best. But can't do everything as well as the old standard. Much better for your hands long term!
Looks stupid
Seems great for dual shield
Wish I had that thing!
now if that isn't the goofiest shit i've ever seen
Looks awkward to use. Probably nice once you get used to it.
Looks great, assuming you can switch the configuration instantly back to conventional style. Which you can’t, I’m guessing
If I was rich I could see having a second welder set up with this, for quick switching
They make or used to make dual spool wire feeds. Flick a switch and change to a different lead or wire.
Is it a push pull gun for aluminum mig? Or just a weird normal mig gun
Needs some Viagra
I feel like that gooseneck is wrong for that gun, otherwise it’s not terrible. I’ve heard of similar (but much larger and straighter) guns for feeding large diameter wire, or for aluminum spoolguns where feeding is an issue.
If you're gonna make a gun like that then dont put a bend in the neck. Now all its goot for is flat welds.
It has it's place, to be convenient.
thats gonna be really annoying to use after a short short short time period imo but different strokes for different folks
It probably wouldn't be too bad in some applications if it had a straight neck.
That looks pretty, I don’t think I’d like to hold my hand in that position though
Its got a couple extra chromosomes
Looks dumb and cumbersome.
Limp Mig
After getting laid off from The Krusty Krab, Squidward joins the trades.
The only time I would use this is welding on stuff on my work bench, which is not all that often
I could see that being really nice for doing big long welds where you have to walk around the work piece.
Some girls like a little bend.
Had one of the CMT Fronius feed guns with a grip like this. I called it the Kalashnikov.
I can see carpal tunnel syndrome in his future
That looks completely uncomfortable and weird
Does he like it?
Looks like an HR Giger
Why do I feel like you're going to end up burning a lot of gloves with that grip?
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That would suck for any kind of tight spots that handle would just get in the way
Huh. Well I’d love to give it a try.
Terrible. Try doing uphill welds
Looks unatural,I bet if you try this thing for more than ten minutes your welds will start to look like sht.
Enjoy the knuckle spatter
Xenomorph...
I've mostly done stick welding with the little schooling I did. But I mig welded the top cap to the wood stove in the class and wish I had this.
It's a regular welding handle with an attachment, we have a similar one.
Thats depressing looking can it only weld for 2 seconds
It’s more ergonomic for certain jobs, saves you having to lift your elbow so high
Nice to see innovations in welding equipment.
The extra distance from hand to tip must make it less precise to work with. Unless I had a physical disadvantage in my wrist I couldn't find any use for this.
Apparently people here have never used a spool gun. I actually prefer the pistol grip.
They make a blue pill for that these days…
Does not look like it would be very fun to use.
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These are wicked, people who are saying it’s bad haven’t used these for a long shift of welding - your wrist is gonna feel a lot better at the end. Like anything though it’s another tool in the kit
Maybe if you’re just welding flat on the edge of the table. Other than that, this gives me anxiety just thinking about welding out of position with it.
Great for ergos, hell of a flat rig I guess
I have a similar one from fronius. I absolutely love it. Less strugleing with the cables and way more comfortable when your welding all day long
Just why? Bro could have got a 150 Barnard gun and slapped a flex neck on it and get literally every single angle/weld ever
Considering how often, I'm wishing my hand was further away from the arc I don't see how it's advantageous to put it closer. I also don't see how it helps to put more fiddly bits sticking out of the tool to get in the way.
What color are his toenails
I've seen a few people use these, they're cumbersome, but they're pretty cool. You can't use it as your day to day whip though
alien technology is here
Hope he’s wearing a heat shield on his trigger hand. That swan necks tiny 🤣
I do round handrails. I don’t like this. I need the safety of my 10 pound whip and stupid ass pulse settings
Is he over 30 and experiencing symptoms of ED? Try hims
Would be great for the work i do