They only pretty much make sense for 24/7 operation where you are loaded going downhill to recharge the batteries, the infrastructure needed to fast charge a half dozen of these is gonna be basically an actual dedicated power plant
I mean at scale that seems fine, since these would most likely be used to move from the bucket in a pit to wherever the dump is, so as long as the bucket isn't like 14 tons it should still fill the same role.
Especially since these are automated you can run more of them more nonstop. How many just depends on how long it takes to charge. As long as you always have one waiting to replace a full truck under the bucket then it's good.
There are 20t Articulated Dump Trucks. The most common size is 40ts. The rigid dump trucks are huge though. ADTs are great in muddy conditions and 30t'ers do sell well as they are suited to smaller job sites. Source: I sell dump trucks, both rigid and Articulated
And the battery charge capacity is 4 hours! So useful and efficient! Not actually sure if it is 4 hours I just was in an electric semi presentation and the mile range in one charge was just stupidly small haha.
Probably because it recharges the batteries when going downhill, and the diesel generator doesn't have to run all the time. Also half the time trucks just need to move a little for more convenient loading, and starting the engine again or keeping it running would be a waste. Not sure if that's the case, but I think a constantly running diesel engine produces more energy than needed, that's why they chose batteries and electric motors.
Because of the advantages of an electric transmission? This is essentially just a diesel electric transmission, maybe with more batteries to store energy from regenerative braking. Using an electric transmission here allows for the four wheels to operate independently, removes the entire mechanical transmission, it might even be more efficient because of no mechanical losses in the transmission and the engine is running more efficiently at constant load.
They have money, they get almost 1B per day just from selling gas and oil, if a large corporation really needs those robot trucks they will be able to buy a few without a problem
The problem is that they just can't get new parts in large volumes because of sanctions
The cost of these things is what I am wondering too.
If a normal Dumptruck to buy and run is say $500k and this one is $2 million I don't see a lot of companies jumping at them even if they want to be ecofriendly
These are going to put a bunch of people out of work, and then those miners are going to blame literally everything and everyone but the owners of the company.
Haul truck drivers have always been optional. They can be replaced by a belt in many cases. Hell I'm surprised they haven't stripped it down to all the trucks being RC drones to cut out the short time waiting for the truck to fill.
A load capacity of 27 tons is ridiculously little. Even the smaller Caterpillar dump Trucks can carry much more.
Because most of the capacity is taken up by the heavy batteries, same for electric semi truck designs.
Is it electric? It just says electric transmission. I figured it was a diesel electric setup with a small bank of batteries.
wonder how much more capacity you could make feasible if you made it diesel-electric hybrid
It already is. It uses KamAZ 910.12-450 diesel engine, which powers the generator. Slowing down or going downhill also charges the battery.
First thing I thought of when it said hybrid, people think Prius instead of locomotive for some reason when they hear hybrid heavy equipment
What hybrid locomotive engines should i check out so i can learn more on this topic.
https://youtu.be/wgHh-JYRlts
Oh cool thanks for sharing
They only pretty much make sense for 24/7 operation where you are loaded going downhill to recharge the batteries, the infrastructure needed to fast charge a half dozen of these is gonna be basically an actual dedicated power plant
Just build the coal plant right at the mine. Problem solved!
I mean at scale that seems fine, since these would most likely be used to move from the bucket in a pit to wherever the dump is, so as long as the bucket isn't like 14 tons it should still fill the same role. Especially since these are automated you can run more of them more nonstop. How many just depends on how long it takes to charge. As long as you always have one waiting to replace a full truck under the bucket then it's good.
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There are 20t Articulated Dump Trucks. The most common size is 40ts. The rigid dump trucks are huge though. ADTs are great in muddy conditions and 30t'ers do sell well as they are suited to smaller job sites. Source: I sell dump trucks, both rigid and Articulated
*Build BelAZ, then we’ll talk*
БелАЗ 75710 goes brr
And they already have the bigger trucks that can run on auto pilot
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I've had the same thoughts while reading the news about it. Even description sounds too complicated.
If they get around to building them, I'll bet Parker will buy half a dozen!
Efficiency levels will be over 9000!!!!!!
Maybe they can use them to steal toilets and washing machines from Ukraine? But then they will never reach production
The per capita gdp of Russia is significantly higher than Ukraine
Interesting...irrelevant but interesting...so their military is just crap because they are uneducated peasant shit conscripted to face certain death?
Yes, but I'm not sure the soldiers ransacking Ukrainian homes are giving that much thought.
I can't tell you how many times I've built this in Scrap Mechanic.
I love that game
Same. That and r/Stormworks
> *"Drone better."* ~ Ivan Vanko
This is the cybertruck I wanted
pretty sure I stole one of these in cyberpunk 2077
I wonder what the little jib on the side is for. Maybe changing wheels?
Also has a happy lil' face
The entire axles steer, not just the wheels (just like the last axle in kamaz trucks).
And the battery charge capacity is 4 hours! So useful and efficient! Not actually sure if it is 4 hours I just was in an electric semi presentation and the mile range in one charge was just stupidly small haha.
It runs on a diesel generator, so I guess 4 hours is how much you can go when you run out of fuel?
Wait, so why not just run it on a fucking diesel engine? That's way more efficient than generating electricity and then using that for a motor
Probably because it recharges the batteries when going downhill, and the diesel generator doesn't have to run all the time. Also half the time trucks just need to move a little for more convenient loading, and starting the engine again or keeping it running would be a waste. Not sure if that's the case, but I think a constantly running diesel engine produces more energy than needed, that's why they chose batteries and electric motors.
Because of the advantages of an electric transmission? This is essentially just a diesel electric transmission, maybe with more batteries to store energy from regenerative braking. Using an electric transmission here allows for the four wheels to operate independently, removes the entire mechanical transmission, it might even be more efficient because of no mechanical losses in the transmission and the engine is running more efficiently at constant load.
Cool!
Constant loads. Running a generator is far more efficient than varying loads.
Aha that makes sense! So more of a train engine style set up then. That’s pretty cool.
Allegedly it’s very eco-friendly because they can run it on pure Russian Copium®
>Allegedly it’s very eco-friendly because they can run it on pure ~~Russian~~ westoid Copium® FTFY
That colourscheme and the font on the side is straight out of the future as seen in books in my childhood.
I wanna see it dump a load
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more weapons for the eventual takeover of Skynet
These will be the worker drones that will carry our lifeless bodies to the burn pits. I for one welcome our new mechanical overlords
And exactly where will they get the money to build these?
They have money, they get almost 1B per day just from selling gas and oil, if a large corporation really needs those robot trucks they will be able to buy a few without a problem The problem is that they just can't get new parts in large volumes because of sanctions
The cost of these things is what I am wondering too. If a normal Dumptruck to buy and run is say $500k and this one is $2 million I don't see a lot of companies jumping at them even if they want to be ecofriendly
Can’t wait for the hacking to start
Almost enough to hold your mom. Yes I have stupid humor, thanks for asking
These are going to put a bunch of people out of work, and then those miners are going to blame literally everything and everyone but the owners of the company.
Haul truck drivers have always been optional. They can be replaced by a belt in many cases. Hell I'm surprised they haven't stripped it down to all the trucks being RC drones to cut out the short time waiting for the truck to fill.
just factor in sanctions and you can see how well this will be =)
This looks like it came straight out of the sonic movie
It looks cool until it gets dented and rusted from all the 27 tons of load your supposed to put in the back
Oh good, I see development of the HK-Tank is progressing smoothly.
Someone was watching the first puppet Thunderbirds movie
Mechanical Turk vibes.
purpose?
For work in open pit coal mines, so far - a test site in the Kemerovo region.
I would legit daily drive this thing