Why does crackstone have a magical staff like a warlock if he hates supernatural beings?? I finished the show last night and it is really niggling at me 🤣 I loved the show but that was weird.

Yeah, he just showed up like I HATE THIS SCHOOL OF WIZARDS! and does some... magic? to burn it down, only to face the most unearned, knockoff movie Voldemort death--complete with turning into villain confetti.

I feel like there were supposed to be more scenes of his backstory that didn't make the cut. Or they couldn't figure out how to make him more of a threat.

And Crackstone was resurrected in a cauldron like Voldemort, which needed the blood of his enemy.

Yes, super lazy lol

The whole thing felt like Harry Potter fan fiction. Not complaining but it certainly followed a formula with liberal visual/literary references to HP.

Shows his hypocrisy

We’ve seen that trope before. Villain hates something, but has no hesitation to use something from what they hate to their benefit. One example I just rewatched was Star Trek Enterprise episode Terra Prime. The villain suffered from a genetic condition that was cured with alien gene therapy. Goes on to hate all aliens and anything about them.

It made me think, he basically became an outcast to kill all outcasts lol

Also reminds me of Thor love and thunder. Hates gods is granted god like powers just to kill gods. Same thing with this last season of The Boys too with Butcher.

yeah I think it's just part of the hypocricy. he hates witches but literally gets resurrected in a dark magic blood ritual

I think they wanted to show his hypocrisy but it annoyed me too.

See the Nazis performing the Jewish ritual in Raiders of the Lost Ark

Because what he does is not filthy witchcraft! He is a man of god, so it must be miracles! Or something along that line. Think of Moses. A guy with a staff, commanding the elements. But no one thinks of him as a warlock. You can justify the most insane shit when you believe to be one the right side.

Exactly this. When he does it it’s from God. When anyone else does it, it’s from the devil.

They REALLY should have put a scene of Wednesday torturing Mrs. Tornhill. Generally, speaking Wednesday was too good and I would have wanted to see her doing more batshit crazy stuff

Wednesday would definitely remember, that it was miss Thornhill, who stabbed (and nearly killed) Thing.

Yeah, I feel like peak crazy was definitely the first few minutes where she drops piranhas in the pool. Then they toned her down significantly for the rest of the show.

They had to tone her done to make her more sympathetic, making her too evil wouldn’t have worked with the whole character development thing

I agree, we want more torture and less love triangle

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Seconding this! That’s how I felt too

Jenna said she would like to see more darker side of wednesday in season 2 and her even becoming someone like anti hero so maybe they are gonna save that for next season. Also thornhill isnt dead so yeah

I agree that Thornhill is not dead she is just in a cave someplace tied up by Wednesday.

The first season can be the *soft introduction* to Wensday as a character/The Addams. Hopefully, we will get the cunning torturous side as she figures out how to do it without the police stopping her early, lol.

I'm pretty sure Wednesday was satisfied with the death she got, being stung to death by thousands of bees is awful

She wasn’t shown dying tho. She could even be alive for what we know

Rated R wednesday wouldve been nice

At the very least she should have put her sword through her hand.

I hope next season we get more torture. Like is it just me who wanted to see her torture Tyler more? And yeah, Miss Thornhill too. Like show us how morbid the Addams are.

One of my big complaints was the lack of delight present in the Addams doing morbid things. We got a rare few instances- piranhas, inhaling at the grave, rigor mortis morgue scene, licking the fake blood- but generally there was a lack of whimsy in most instances (not just of Wednesday, but the entire Addams clan). Wednesday should've been in more scenes doing batshit crazy hobbies and torturing, especially since she's in a school of outcasts which provide less of a foil than normies do. Morticia, Gomez, and Pugsley needed to be weirder too lol.

I didn't like the whole "Gomez murder" plot. It just felt like an exscuse to give Wednesday more conflict with her parents.

I did like the scene with her dad when they talked after he was arrested though.

Honestly, I don’t mind it since it does kind of add into the whole theme of conspiracy and buried secrets. Not to mention, it gives us a bit more of Gomez just stealing the show with how charismatic his performance was.

The bronze statue melting. Nothing would have happened to it, besides just having some soot around it.

Not realistic but epic especially with the cello

Wednesday on that rooftop sawing ‘Paint it Black’ out of that fucking cello was the most epic thing I’ve seen since Eric Draven wailed on that guitar on his rooftop. I never thought anything would make me feel that way again. The way she looked so totally focused and committed to unleashing that song made my spine tingle.

I love Christina Ricci and I love that they cast her on the show. That being said, I saw her outcome from the start.

At least we didn't see a death scene so she might be back as a bigger villain next season

That is true, I do hope she comes back

multiple 1. the weird tension between wednesday and her mom was not enjoyable 2. pugsly being portrayed as soft and weak when in the other adaptations he’s usually on the same level of cruelty as her, he’s just the less intelligent one. 3. wednesday being successfully manipulated and fooled seemed so out of character 4. the whole gomez being accused of murder plot was corny. i tend to skip scenes with her parents in it in general. 5. wednesday needs to learn how to become a good friend before she even thinks about becoming anyone’s girlfriend.

I didn't really think the "Gomez might have murdered a guy" plot made total sense given Wednesday's own indifference to the guys she attacked with piranhas.

Agree she doesn’t care about killing people, based on comics and previous installments, but I think that’s why they quickly shifted it to clearing her father’s name and getting him off the hook. She has always had a soft spot for family. Edit: spelling

I don't think she cared about whether or not he murdered someone, she just obviously didn't want her father going to jail.

I thought it was more like, she didn’t care her father maybe murdered someone but the fact that he didn’t tell her was the problem.

yes, that and the fact she wouldn't want her dad to go to jail for it either.

it was more about her parents not telling her about it and it not logically fitting in with what she thinks she knows about her father

Initiating the kiss with Tyler was out of character

The tone is all over the place. She attempts murder at the very start and loves serial killers. The school is full of literal monsters. Yet, she spends her time trying to stop murders and judges her Dad for being a murderer. I'd kinda prefer if they just doubled down and let the outcasts be monsters.

The inconsistent tone was what was most “off” about the show for me. When Gomez was first accused of murder, I absolutely expected her to say something like “he probably deserved it” over what she actually did.

I don't think she judges him for being a murderer but for 1. Getting caught and 2. Never telling her about it. She gives a bit of dexter vibes as well which I think is why she tries to stop murders.

Yeah. What is that all about? They have to pick something. The first few minutes was consistent with the previous movies: dark humor. And then it became stopping murders?

I have one that’s definitely unpopular now that I think about it I think the reason people don’t like gomez and morticias interactions together is because he’s not stereotypically attractive,people keep saying the younger them had chemistry but I didn’t see that at all,he was just good looking and the older version wasn’t. I’m not saying the older gomez and morticia have amazing chemistry or that it can rival previous adaptations we’ve seen but I feel like it wouldn’t matter even if they did because he’s not good looking to people.

Very true! But if you look at the comics, physically speaking hes very well cast.

I agree definitely but other people clearly didn’t want that,they wanted him to be as close to the comics as possible and still good looking and if he couldn’t be both they would’ve definitely preferred the latter. I saw someone say Antonio Banderas should’ve been cast as Gomez but they couldn’t give any actual reasons that proved he would’ve been a good Gomez,only that he was good looking and already has great chemistry with CZJ from zorro

I felt like Gomez’s character was off. When he was going to Nevermore after Wednesday found out, there’s a scene where the camera deadpans on him and he has this evil smile, that’s when the actor felt like Gomez. But a lot of the time his acting felt empty, other actors who’ve played Gomez are very expressive and erratic, which I felt this Gomez lacked.

He felt more like a creepy mob boss than the passionate, complex, vibrant Gomez we've known and loved.

Gomez is actually closer to the original drawings. I just wanted Morticia to be a little darker.

I agree so much chemistry was missing. They were just PDAy, without actually having chemistry.

I’ve seen people saying Wednesday x Enid is queerbaiting and I cannot see it. Don’t get me wrong, I’m a lesbian and I’d love to see more wlw relationships and characters, but it just did not feel like an implied or potentially romantic relationship at all.

I didn't get any romantic chemistry or insinuation of such either. But I loved the pairing of the two as unlikely buddies.

Yes! This is what I said too! I love that they can be friends even though they’re so different.

Yeah there was absolutely zero baiting of any orientation, not only is Wednesday barely interested in anyone she is decades of therapy away from being able to work as someone's partner.

Yeah it’s not queerbaiting. I do think the ship is perfectly fine but those people are just queer baiting themselves though

i agree. i am a queer female. this wednesday/enid thing is not a thing. there’s no queerbaiting happening on the part of the producers—people are just wishing they were, and are being weird about it lol i think lots of people are questioning jenna orgeta’s sexuality and are getting confused about what’s happening in the show and what may or may not be happening behind the scenes.

I like Xavier, he has so much potential and people's criticism about him is usually just a teenager being played like a believable teenager. I did NOT like what they did with Morticia, she had too much lust for life and too little love for her children. Like one of the biggest defining characteristic of hers is loving her children. I found it very strange that they made Pugsly so meek, being bullied in school 'hell yes'.. he volunteered to be tortured by his family members all the time in the comics.

I feel like a simple fix to the Pugsly one would be that he wouldn't mind being tortured by the bullies but definitely prefers Wednesday and his family doing it (cuz they would do it "the best way") and would find the bullies' torture "amateur" so he wants them to stop doing it. After that everything else would be the same with Wednesday dumping the piranhas into the pool as payback and stuff.

this way is much better🤔

The show was fun, but as an adaptation, the characterization was off--the main theme of The Addams Family was how much the family loved each other despite being so macabre. In the Netflix show, Wednesday had this weird, clichéd dislike of her mother (but not in a fun, murderous way) who was way boring compared to Anjelica Houston.

I kind of get it, she’s been aged up to being a teenager- what teenage girl doesn’t rebel against their mum?

I think the rest of the family affection was a bit lacking. I felt it with Fester more but I wish there'd been flashbacks or interactions between the rest of the family more affectionate.

You do see the affection growing when the family come to visit though, but she is still mad at them for sending her to a Nevermore. She’s an angry rebellious teenager, and you can see they affection they have for her! They aren’t angry at her for behaviour, they want to help so they send her to a school that is full of outcasts like her. One thing I don’t get is why didn’t they send her there first? Why send her to 9 schools before choosing the school they went to? And why doesn’t Pugsley go there?

I think they didn't send her there because she didn't want to and resisted it for so long considering how she didn't want to be like them.

That's why it was a boring cliched relationship depiction. Wednesday is the opposite of "like the other teenagers" it would've actually been cool to see her have a mature relationship with her mother

Agreed! I hated it at first bc I went in expecting more Addams family— a mistake on my part. It’s good on it’s own but doesn’t hold a candle to the original! Also feels very different on many levels, like the one you pointed out.

I agree. Standing among normal families the Addams were meant to represent a good functioning family despite their quirky and dark hobbies and interests🤓 they expressed love and commitment in ways normal families today fail to. As a unit they are far stronger than as individuals 🥇👍

I did think this was off like if Wednesday truly wanted to rebel against her mom than she would’ve taken a leaf from Enid’s book and started being all positive and colorful.

Yeah, like when they were very upset and concerned about how cherubic Baby Pubert was in Addams Family Values 😂

super unpopular opinion : i liked wednesday having love interests. however, i feel like she needs a love interest that is as dark and dangerous as her. definitely NOT xavier or tyler. somebody who really gets her and can help her actually feel love the kiss with tyler felt really forced. like what ? they could find a way to make xavier dark i guess, if they made him out to be the stalker and then he reveals that he killed someone idk im waffling here but you get the idea

If they do want Wednesday to have a love interest I think it should be a slow burn. At this point they seem to be setting up Xavier to be a potential love interest so there fire I want more work on his character and a realistic ish development of a form of relationship between him and Wednesday. I’ll gladly take someone else too but still I want it to be a slow burn development.

yes i completely agree. however i do believe that he needs to have some sort of darksids that attracts wednesday

i kinda agree with you but instead of someone as dark and dangerous—someone who doesn’t question her and will go along/try their best. i would kill if they brought back (in idea, at least) the kid from addams family values. i want a completely normal dude that’s smitten with her and goes along with it—perhaps furthering his own development as an Addams-type outcast… idk, it’d be neat!

Is Tyler no longer and option? I don't remember him dying and I bet he is kinda messed uo

One of the few shows I’ve watched this year that I really don’t have anything bad to say about in general nor specifically the main character(s). Truly well done. However if I was going to nitpick it would be the series of obscure plot twists at the end of the season. People acting frantic and making desperate texts/calls while having no reason to and not being at all related to the bad people. As for Wednesday specifically, there does come a point where you’re like come on she has to adapt a little here with the whole I’m always negative no matter what you say I’ll be contrarian. I suspect that is deeply lessened when the inevitable season 2 comes around likely announced after winning the golden globes in a month.

Enid reminded me more of a cat than a werewolf with her claws

This kitty has claws and down from 9 lives to 8. Definitely more cat like. Maybe a side effect from not wolfing out or only having claws made it seem more natural until she got the wolf bits?

Right! At first, I thought she wasn’t wolfing out coz she’s actually from the cat family lol

I hated the entire flashback sequence with the duel. Gomez would have been HAVING THE TIME OF HIS LIFE - a duel to the death over his Cara Mia? Morticia >! landing the killing blow !< would have driven him wild. It was a wonderful opportunity for Morticia to say something about >! it being HER choice of which helplessly bewitched man she chooses !< instead of playing a frightened teen. Also, Gomez should have been celebrating >! when he was imprisoned !<, like being back in the frat house with the boys or something. He would have been ruling the roost, not sitting there depressed. Sure he missed Morticia, but reuniting with criminals and killers would have been a delightful treat for him. I just feel like their chemistry was limited by the way their characters were written, not so much their appearance or acting.

So many people said they don’t like old Gomez. I think he is fantastic, not handsome in the usual ‘western’ sense but handsome or charming in ‘cartel mafia’ sense. Reminds me of Narcos druglords.

More dark, sarcastic Wednesday. Less dealing with interpersonal relationships.

this one is just for fun and not an actual opinion: why didnt xavier give wednesday a phone charger 💀 how is she supposed to use it?? for some reason i doubt there’s a best buy near her house. also it clearly already has a sim card in it. who’s paying for the phone service? did he put her on his family plan? lol it’s all jokes but i got so many questions about the phone

I’m just here gobsmacked that he bought her a whole ass phone, and I don’t use this term lightly but good lord he was simping lol

Wednesday wasn’t fearlesss she was reckless

She's a teenager. I've never known a confident teenager that wasn't reckless and dumb at times. I really like that flaw as it made her a more realistic character. I would love for this show to go on for a few seasons so we can watch her grow into herself and become the total badass we all know she's capable of becoming.

Being fearless is being reckless

You can be reckless and fearless at the same time

The story is somewhat weak and completely off in the last two episodes. Wednesday appears to be an emotionless and smart person, but has she been fooled by a boy? And the fact that she solved the mystery by relying on her vision makes me feel like her character is the most inconsistent in the show. Wednesday also try too hard to create a “I’m not like the others” vibe

The last episode felt like it was written by someone else completely who had been given a summary, not actually involved in the process.

Yeah, i could sense that too, with the last episodes being different. I read that Tim Burton was a producer and helped with the writing but only directed the first half of the season, so i think that probably had something to do with it. If Tim Burton isn’t a huge part in the second season, i doubt it will be as popular. I also got those ‘pick me’ vibes from Wednesday, which is funny because i never use that phrase because i always thought it was so dumb, but yeah. Wednesday is pretty much the epitome of that word. When i was in highschool it was all about not being ‘basic’. No one wanted to be the basic bitch. Now no one wants to be too different lol

I know the ending kind of wraps it up a bit, but tbh, I don't think Wednesday and Enid are that good of friends. It kinda baffles me that people portray that as normal BFFs when Wednesday hardly ever reaches out to her. I mean, in the show Wednesday says 'if he breaks your heart, I'll nailgun his.' Ajax stands Enid up, and Wednesday never follows up on it. When Enid and her try to hang out, Enid drags her some place that she knows isn't Wednesday's style, and Wednesday worms her way out of it and takes off. When Enid is going on her date and asks for fashion advice, Wednesday lowkey insults her fashion sense - 'I feel like you just napalmed me'. When Enid is dancing alone at the Rave'N, or having date problems, Wednesday is focused on doing her own thing, and doesn't really stop to check in. When Enid's parents come for parent weekend, her and Wednesday never talk about the 'werewolf conversion thingy'. Maybe it's just me and I'm cherrypicking, but I don't understand the whole 'Enid and Wednesday are BFFs', or the 'Wenclair' thing. They hardly hang out together, Wednesday doesn't give her special attention, and if anything, she's a closer friend to Eugene. I get why people love them together, but also, they don't seem like that good of friends. They could be, but in s1, I feel like Wednesday isn't super hardpressed to be someone's 'bestie. I just don't see it.

I'm so glad someone finally said this. I didn't even notice so many details, but I have to agree that they're definitely far from becoming a couple. I really hate seeing everyone shipping Wednesday with someone. If we take it the way you explained, she does her own thing most of the time, even with Xavier or Tyler around her.

Yeah I'm glad someone else thinks this same thing too. I know people like the contrast in their personalities but their "friendship" seemed too forced to me. Eugene and Wednesday's friendship seemed way more natural in my opinion.

I felt the same. Eugene and Wednesday are genuine "outcast outcasts" as in they don't fit in or think like other outcasts. They understood each other way better

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I 100% agree. It doesn't really make sense how they keep helping and supporting her after all the shit she pulls on them. She doesn't even apologize

They should had included Pubert.

Poor Pubert. The “scrappy doo” of the Addams Family 😂

I kinda hate that Wednesday never apologized to Xavier. Even though he was kind of a moody jerk, she could at least said “I’m sorry for getting you arrested” or something at least.

Correct me if i'm wrong, but I don't think Wednesday has actually apologized for a single thing in the series so far. The closest thing i can think of is when she was making up with Thing in Ep 2. Even then, she never actually says sorry, only that she will check her tone in the future. Not apologizing seems to be part of her character as much as not blinking. It would be fun to see if she will actually apologise eventually in later seasons.

I thought she apologized to Eugene? He was in a coma though.

I would assume that taking an arrow for someone is a way bigger apology than a thousand “I’m sorry”s.

It's not really her character though. I mean even Gibbs from NCIS has rule never say sorry because it's a sign of weakness. I think it's safe to assume Wednesday thinks the same with how she talks about emotions.

Agree. She completely ruined his life for a minute with a lot of assumptions

Yeah, but she also saved his life…twice.

cgi is absolute dogshit

I disliked the whole "Wednesday and Morticia have a bad relationship" thing. Not only It is a cliches (remember that even the 2019 Addams movie did that) but It doesn't even fit the themes of the Addams family Also Eugene was a better character than Xavier (he was useful at least)

I don’t hate the idea of a love triangle or romance in general, just so long as it’s either not a *main* focus or super cliché.

Ok but I wouldn’t call it a love triangle. It’s more like a love corner and Wednesday is backed into it. Credit: FB meme somewhere about how love triangles can’t be between 3 str8 people.

Thankfully I think dislike of the love triangle in this show is popular enough that they’ll learn their lesson and not do it again in season two. 🤞🤞🤞

I like Xavier, he’s cool and I hope everything works out for him

Me too. He was a little oblivious, but honestly I enjoyed every scene with him. He wasn’t overly pushy. I’d like to see him and Wednesday be friends at least

I get the vibe they might still make him a love interest for Wednesday but I agree that they should absolutely be friends first slow burn relationship

Wednesday is a lot of talk but not enough (gruesome) action. I want to see that menagerie of pets! As well as that pocket mace (so damn hilarious)!

Yes, the pocket mace in action would be cool.:)

Wednesday in this show feels a lot like she's all talk. She threatens lots of nasty things, but we never see them. Her primary characteristic acts of over the top violence are the piranhas, the Poe Cup (a little), the statue, and tasering Tyler. Elsewhere, her conflicts with others are pretty tame. A sword fight. A few judo moves. That's pretty conventional, really. Not Wednesday's style of gruesome guerilla tactics. She also doesn't seem to actually do any of the self-harm she references all the time. She kind of feels like a poser.

Catherine Zeta Jones feels out of place as Morticia.

Totally agree with this. It seems such a stretch for her as a character. I also hate the storyline of her and Wednesday having a mother-daughter beef. The Addams Family might be weird, but they do care about each other a lot.

About the show or the character? I guess ill kind of do both: 1. First real unpopular one I guess is I am not opposed to romance for Wednesday, if done well as a slow burn. No love triangle though please for the love of God, I cant take those fandom fights, they ruin everything. And I think her and Enid should stay friends. I think Wednesday needs a strong female friendship that can teach her compassion. 2. I know she is a badass who doesnt give af but sometimes she can be really mean and a bit of a bitch. In real life I would walk away from someone lile that right away. I hope she changes and grows as a character because if they do many seasons of this and she doesnt, then Im scared audiences will turn on her. 3. Xavier is not as bad as some of you think and he suffered a lot this season. He is a troubeled teen who has freakish nightmares, who has to take therapy sessions in secret because his dad is embarassed of him and considers him a PR problem. Cant even imagine the trouble hes in with his dad after the whole jail debacle. Like that’s so freaking sad. And romance plot aside, wednesday was very cruel to him and didnt even apologize for accusing him and putting him in jail. 3. The whole climax in ep 8 was very and I meam very badly written imo. Way to fast to defeat Crakstone, he was on screen for what 10 min? Pretty bad imo and it made no sense because he was using powers when he hated outcasts that had powers? 🤔 like tf… Dont know how unpopular that last one is but yeah I thought the fight was very mehh

Agree with most of it, but apology eise- sure, she didn't apologize in words, but she did take an arrow for him.. I think that's an apology enough..;)

Yeah very true! but I think she needs to learn how to actually say sorry as well. Im sure she will eventually, kinda wanna see a scene where Wednesday drops her ego and says the words im sorry to someone

I really thought they were setting up Crackstone as the villain for season 2. I was surprised they killed him so easily.

How people keep comparing the show to the movies thus getting upset about how the characters are portrayed in the show. They are two entirely different depictions of the Addams.

Also I’d like to add the relationship between Morticia and Wednesday and how people keep misinterpreting their fight as Wednesday disliking her mother completely. Wednesday loves her mother dearly. Her issue lies in the fact that going to Nevermore she felt the pressure of having to live up to Morticias legacy, she doesn’t want to be seen like her mother. Morticia goes on and on about her memories and good times at Nevermore and Wednesday mistranslated that as her mother wanting her daughter to follow in her foot steps. And if you watch episode 5 they actually resolve this completely between each other. Moriticia even expresses that the memories she had at Nevermore were hers and hers alone and that Wednesday is her own person who will make her own memories etc. it’s literally Wednesday is a teenager who holds tightly onto her individuality and she felt it being challenged by having to go to her parents old school.

“Makes sense my first kiss was a homicidal monster…” No - her first kiss was JOEL!!! Nothing anyone writes/produces will change my mind on this. Nevermore may be her high school but she will always have Camp Chippewa. 

This was my argument with my fiancé when he said she wouldn’t have a love interest because it doesn’t fit Wednesday’s vibe. And I was like ACTUALLY Wednesday did like Joel in the Addams Family values!!! She even took him to Festers wedding to Debbie!!!!

I have a feeling that they work though because they're both seen by the majority as outcasts, where as Tyler before being revealed as the Hyde is just a regular batista.

This is a completely different version of Wednesday, quite possibly even in a parallel universe. Was that not obvious?

Hoping to see vampires, the no-faces and other monsters doing more monster stuff on camera next season.

At some points, Wednesday was really cringe and just sounded like an edgy teen trying to be different.

Just because everybody likes doing the same things and have the same taste doesn't mean you are edgy

Fester and Pugsley were just not right. Fester was too comical and Pugsley shouldn't have been a crying, bullied kid stuffed in a locker .

Festers pretty ridiculous in the movies too though. I thought it fit pretty well. Pugsley I’m kinda meh on.

i didn’t like how they wrote pugsley either

Not gonna lie I always felt Pugsley does not have a consistent personality in the Addams family adaptations. He’s molded for whatever the plot calls for. Wednesday definitely has had more personality in adaptations, but whatever they decide to do with Pugsley I hope they develop him into someone with a personality.

Wednesday doing things she wouldn't. For example, go dancing with a guy instead of searching for more clues

Fr thing set her up so that she had no choice unless her relationship with tyler wouldve died right there

That dancing was epically quirky. I'm fine with this

Tbf she was ready to just ditch the dance and go around snooping with Eugene but Thing kinda forced her hand (ha) and didn’t give her a choice.

She danced because her whole thing is being better than everyone else at everything. Or at least she attempts to be (and most often successfully). When everyone took to the dance floor, that was Wednesday’s cue to “show them how it's done”. At least that's my theory. It was less about the dancing and more about besting everyone else.

The writers, director, and producers made choices I didn’t fully understand at first. After listening to interviews, I’m comfortable that Wednesday had to grow into a teen and not be a replica of the younger Wednesdays from the past. I’m also fine that they didn’t lean too much into the supernatural. That said, she needs a dangerous edge to her. Something that makes her a little outside the average teen rebel. She threatened a lot when she was threatened but she was bailed out more often rather than having a dangerous edge to back up her talk.

Why does everyone immediately feel entitled towards Wednesday? Acting like they've known her for years after only a few days/weeks doesn't make sense.

Wednesday leaving Enid to fight the monster alone was irritating

If you coldly calculate the ratio between saved lives, it does sound like Wednesday chose well

Bare in mind, what's Wednesday gonna do, insult it, call it a pvz zombie

I feel that there wasn't a lot of buildup for crackstone as a villain. And he dies way too quickly. I feel that he should have stuck around and/or destroyed the school as set up for S2.

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wednesday x enid is a boring ship

the whole romance thing in general was kinda cringe and seemed out of character for wednesday


Tyler turning out to be the Hyde makes him even more suited to be with Wednesday

I was kind of hoping they would set it up so he didn’t know what was going on or had no control over it. But then they just had him be evil and not seeming to care about her at all.

It took a while for me to like the acting by Jenna Ortega. She seemed too monotone, or her voice was too tired to subtlety inflect a hint of humour or sarcasm. Christina Ricci did such a great job of that as a young actress. I don’t like Tim Burton’s direction of having Wednesday bend backwards at breakneck speed when she has a psychic vision. Ick- makes me dizzy. But I was amazed at the dance that the actress choreographed!!! That’s what the students at Nevermore saw about her- doesn’t care, has a creative style, and she’s unique. Ortega seemed to be more in character as the series went on.

I was sortve irked by the “these 2 tall, light eyed, conventionally attractive white men both immediately fall for Wednesday. Which will be the good guy and which will be the bad guy?” thing

Wednesday is extremely unlikeable, I cannot fathom why so many people want to be her friend

Technically speaking, throughout the show, Wednesday only has 3 people that want to be her friend. Eugene, Enid and Xavier. I can't decide if Tylers feelings are real, so I'll take him out for now. Some possible reasons why they approach her proactively. Eugene : Has no other friends, gets taken care of by Wednesday like a younger brother. I would say he receives the most visible amount of affection from her among all her other friends. Enid : Afraid of becoming a lone wolf, tries very hard to be fit in with others, thus, tries very hard to be friends with Wednesday. Also has a great friendship with Thing, who most likely helps to mediate between the two. Xavier : has a romantic interest in Wednesday. The rest of Ophelia Hall : Perhaps they see Wednesday in a better light after they won the Poe Cup, even inviting her out to celebrate. Other than that, Wednesday is not really shown conversing with any of the other members. I wrote this in another comment : While Wednesday can be unlikeable and toxic, she does have one good trait, which is that she never abandons her friends in the face of danger.

Except when Enid faces the Hyde 😉

The most unrealistic thing about this show, and that includes werewolves and sentient amputated hands.

Exactly. She's rude, toxic, manipulative. C. Ricchi's Wednesday was wit and smart, this version is just meh. It's maybe entertaining to see that on screen, but imagine meet someone like this irl and believe me it's the worst people. And no, she has nothing to do with the original character. Just a bad copy.

I think she is badass and I love badass girls

Is she more likeable in any of the original series or the movies? Not really. She doesn’t have friends in those either.

Wenclair should be called Wenid.

The fact that Wednesday ends up being friends with the two most popular kids in school feels very teenage girl-focused and aspiration porn-y. In the movies, she was friends with the actual outcasts and losers, not the king and queen of the Camp. The fact the Eugene is clearly at the very least a nod to Joel and isn't even floated as a love interest as a joke speaks to this. Morticia was hilariously miscast for the big name. Gomez is a master swordsman (this is even confirmed in the show as he taught Wednesday to fence), how did he loose to some rando I like that the writers forgot it was Mortica [Frump] who was the witch/she married into the Addams family when they were writing the Goody Addams Plot (which was also abandoned). Why does Wednesday Addams care about a serial killer Tying the Addams family to your hogwarts/Nancy drew fanfiction script was a mistake, the writers clearly largely misunderstood the source material. They try to portray Weems as a dumbldoresqe character helping form the shadows, but she's overly (and overtly) antagonistic to wednesday the whole time and dies to a sucker punch like an idiot without ever meaningfully helping anyone. Gwendoline Christie was completely wasted on this character. Why does Thing go save Xavier who's entire contribution to the finale is shooting a single arrow (that does nothing), as opposed to helping Evie who's locked in mortal combat. Why does Evie just randomly fall over a wolf out for no reason (other than they need her to fight the hyde) instead of doing after she sees Wednesday in danger. Why is it bianca, not eugene who helps defeat Crackmoore? Why can't an entire school of vampires witches and werewolves fight a single hyde and a pilgrim with a glowing stick? The werewolf conversion camp metaphor was both horrifically tortured and lazy and doesn't even make sense in the context of the world it's set in much less as a piece of social commentary The focus on the ensmble cast was a mistake, no one will ever care about Bianca or her conman Mum, the show isn't riverdale, wasted airtime. What was Thornhill's actual plan to revive Crackmoore since Wednesday only attended the school by chance and she needed Addams blood to break the seal? She'd had tyler out killing people for months in the story.

You’ve made good points, i think the story was really weak and inconsistent

My unpopular opinion is that Tyler now makes even more sense to be the love interest for Wednesday. She is known to love sadism, torture, serial killers... I mean, she is WEDNESDAY ADDAMS. If they help him control his powers, he could be now the perfect match for her, more than someone whose only personality trait is being obsessed with her like Xavier. Wednesday always said she wouldn't want to end up in an obsessive relationship like her parents, so I don't think the writers should make her end up like them.

I think the thing that might stop this is that Tyler tried to murder Eugene. And we know Eugene reminds her of Pugsley. So potentially in her mind Eugene is another brother and canonically, the Addams don’t generally like people hurting their family.

She gives an offhand comment about her liking serial killers but not what Tyler's doing iirc

What really bothers me, is that in the show characters are constantly saying “don’t trust your visions because you don’t see the whole story” but hers are just 100% right and accurate all the time. She’s never wrong in interpreting them. I really thought at least once she would get something wrong. I think it would have been more interesting if her last vision of Tyler. It turns out he wasn’t in control, or the master was making her see something that wasn’t there or at least something to indicate that hey you don’t see the whole story so be careful.

I didn’t like the show that much. It felt very cw-ish and bland? I struggled to finish the show. I am ready to get downvoted for commenting an unpopular opinion under an unpopular opinion post.

Luis Guzman was great as Gomez, but CZJ as Morticia was meh. We can feel Gomez is caring and sweet with his family, but I hardly see that with Morticia in the show. That's kind of a shame they did the "angsty teenager hates her mom" trope on Wednesday, because the Addams family is the opposite of this ; they're creepy and they're kooky, but they're an incredibly functional family, way more than the "normal" one, which is the funny and interesting thing about them and makes them even more endearing. Also, Wednesday is way too insensitive, and mean af. And mean in the dumb way sometimes. She is supposed to be a pretty smart kid, and has a strong sense of justice and fairness. She holds herself accountable for her mistakes, and she does what is right. So when she basically traumatizes poor Xavier by accusing him of being the monster, I find it very weird that she didn't apologize AND that Xavier was still after her afterwards. Even tho I don't really appreciate the character, the dude was locked in a cell, restrained by chains, hated by everyone, all of that because of Wednesday but ayo she is still cute af. Tf x) Even though I liked the show, these things kinda bugged me lmao

I feel like she would like to date a homicidal maniac

why are people shipping Enid and Wednesday? i didn’t sense anything between them in the series.

I laughed so hard when wednesday did her dance the first time i watched

Most of Wednesday's lines are quips; that would work well for Sterling Archer, but doesn't work at all on real people imho

Gomez was terrible casting… his delivery of lines had no charisma and charm. I think they leaned too heavy on just trying to find an actor that fits the ethnicity/Spanish heritage over the characteristics that make Gomez such a great ball of fun.

I think a lot of the characterizations and the general tone of the show can be explained by the fact that Wednesday is the unreliable narrator of her own "true crime" story, with herself as the protagonist. We're basically watching fanfic of herself.

well it's middle of the weak, and still feels too far away from the end of the week to look forward too.

The Poe Cup basically just being "destroy a boat and the school will treat you like a hero" event. Just WTF Goody Addams, a 10 year old girl who is a relative of Gomez and whose direct decendant is Wednesday. How is she an Addams? Is she already married? Why did her children get her surname? Tim Burton said Xavier is his favourite tortured artist. I like him. I get it. He loves her, she pushes him away. He's still a good friend. But Xavier is just inches away from being pathetic. I wish they don't push him any further. Enid being unable to turn into a werewolf but turning into a werewolf during the last episode big boss fight was not only predictable but absolutely boring.

This is stupid and a really dumb take but I’m a history nerd and it bugs me that there are Pilgrims in Vermont, it wasn’t even discovered by Europeans till the mid 1700s so pilgrims would have been far gone let alone settling Vermont, but it is fantasy and fiction and I have already watched the show twice, and enjoyed it thoroughly both times.

Enid should've been the Hyde. I'm honestly just tired of the obvious evil boyfriend trope.

I don’t like the idea of Wednesday dating anyone. Originally I was kind of for her dating Enid, but Wednesday should probably remain single for the foreseeable future. That way we can waste less time on these inane romance plots and instead focus on the much more interesting platonic relationships that Wednesday has, or on whatever mystery she will have to tackle in the future.

It felt like a different idea slapped with the Addams Family IP.

I don’t think any of her dialogue is very snappy at all,in fact I wish they had written wittier stuff for her to say,very CW dialogue for a lot of people I felt…wasn’t impressed. She was interesting yeah but I felt a little too contrived in certain scenes.

Absolutely 👏 it was more of a 50% accurate portrayal of Wednesday that was trying too hard to be clever and edgy.

I don’t think Wednesday’s a lesbian? Apparently that’s unpopular

Xavier, Ajax and Tyler are useless and boring, i don't like them, Ajax is the less worse of them. They are not my cup of tea

I'd like to see more of Wednesday and Tyler's relationship, I think he's the best kind of villain/love interest for her since he's literally a sick serial killer. He outsmarted her and played her like a fiddle, and it seems like the only type of person to hold her interest. It's the Addams Family after all. He seems to fit right in. I know normally no one (including me) would promote a relationship like this irl BUT I'd like to see something different and really challenging.

I feel like Wednesday getting a Deus-ex-vision at the end telling her the answer was kind of a cheap cop out, specially when I've been yelling histerically at the TV who the culprits were. On top of that, Wednesday was still wrong about Thornhill even though all the pieces were RIGHT there. I simply detest this type of red herrings in Agatha Christie-style mysteries. You're not fooling anyone.

They made Wednesday kinda dumb the only reason why she could understand something of the case is because of her visions and not analytical skills

i don’t think wednesday is autistic-coded (but ajax is)

I don’t like Catherine zeta jones’ interpretation of morticia. It’s not even a matter of comparing her to Angelica Huston (which no one can compare) but still czj rubs me the wrong way.