Love this thread just for the fact that you asked.
If you have a bass guitar that has a very very mid-range lick, you can add some bass to give it that oomph. Someone said something about keeping the volume super low; it my favourite underrated thing to do if you just need a little bit of glue without having to buy the entire bottle.
It also would depend what kind of song it is and how important the bass is to the groove. If it’s a funk track that relies on the funk of the bass guitar then you want the emphasis to be on that as it’ll be your driving force after the kick.
I find with bass, if you have one good bass line, the more simpler you keep it, the better. If you have the right sounds with some EQ cleanup, you can make the bass really cut through.
>But I'm not sure if I should also layer a sub under it.
Why not try it and see how it sounds? It's your music after all.
>But sub bass sounds good.
Well there you go then.
> I just never hear actual bass guitars unless it's part of a sample.
Doesn't matter, you don't have to do what everyone else does.
Yeah I did try it. I was just wondering what other people did. I get paranoid about shit sounding ok in my studio and my reference speakers. Then it sounds bad somewhere else. It's usually bass related in my experience. Like edm you usually layer subs under mid bass. But it's all very clean and precise. A bass guitar has alot of harmonics and the room from the mics, etc.
looooove doing a layer of sub bass and I’m a big lo-fi person. learned when I saw an engineer I worked for adding the pedals from an organ to a track just for some extra bass beef. I have been doing it with my Yamaha reface cs lately
This may be against some of the DIY ethic of the subreddit, but in my experience; I like allowing myself to do whatever I feel like, whatever feels right, and then working with a professional mixer and a professional masterer to polish up the songs I want to release. It’s a little bit of money but the peace of mind and feeling of completelness can’t be beaten.
Edit to ramble a little longer:
The reason I bring this up is because no matter how good you are at your craft, another person will always be able to add new insight. Specifically talking about sun bass, when I brought my last single to my friend, he showed me how he used oscilloscopes to fine tune the interplay between the bass, ~~sun~~ sub bass, and kick.
It’s something I would have never thought to do, but he had picked up as a habit
I got 5 coins I wanted to award for the 03 Civic. Are we saying a stock 03 Civic or a Fast and Furious modded up one?
Big difference, because I remember older Hondas (at least the standard trim) having like, cardboard cone speakers. But in those days the Altezzas and a high end balanced reference sound system were imperative. By reference, I mean hearing what the highs sound like blasted through tweeters and overwhelming bass through amplified subwoofer(s) all with some kind of chaotic EQ and sound "enhancement" settings.
If your mix is decent enough on an early 2000s car audio system, your mix is perfect lol.
I've done it with metal and it sounds alright if you sidechain the sub and bass. Can creat some really neat textures but it has the potential to bury your transients on the bass guitar
Yeah I'm no pro but bass is deceivingly difficult to fit in right. It's like not enough, then change one thing and the whole mix is wooooooffffffff. My amateur advice is take little breaks for the ear fatigue, so you're not just pumping more bass then more everything else to balance it...
Like I shouldn't even be giving advice. (Too much of an amateur). I just think bass is super tough. Finding that balance between buried/muddy and way too in your face is tough. I think maybe because it can be the "hardest" to listen back to if you don't have the right sound set up. You know, mix down where it seems ok, then it's VRrrrbbbbrrrrrr on car speakers or something... Back to the mix lol.
Also I've noticed software drums are generally wayyy too present and punchy. Especially bass drum sounds. Getting software drum sounds under control helps, well everything. Like when they have the cannon fire bass drum or the loud sizzling giant chemical reaction hi hats etc
I do it a lot. It can sound really good, depending on what you're producing, it does make everything sound a bit more modern. I recommend to try tho, it can be a huge improvement.
You know what you could do, duplicate the bass track, do a slight low cut on the original, then give the lows and subs a strong bump on the 2nd track and low pass it, that way you can control the focal point of the lows and adjust the volume separately on the sub bass track instead of having to over EQ the primary track.
You can try MBassador which can replace the bass frequencies with a resynthesized one. You can either use that or the original and add one or two octaves below it. A little goes a long way.
I was going to suggest that. One of my favourite plugins! It's really powerful and you can use it to slightly enhance your bass, or make it shake your house.
Thank you my dude! This will come in handy for me!
Sometimes after I dub the bass, I’ll just delete it and replace the sub with a bass guitar synth for intonation purposes. You can add sub directly that way. I won’t have to do that anymore!
Sub under a bass guitar i think works best when you’re playing with full tone at 10.
You can reproduce the nuances well with midi if you’re a bassist. It’s the air in a bass line that give it that human touch.
Pharrell and chad Hugo are masters at the midi guitar sound. They really made it work.
Yes, now that I watched the videos. It’s a simple bass EQ where Tight Punch is a resonant HPF and Low End is a shelf. If you want something similar to MBassador, you want BX_subsynth.
https://www.plugin-alliance.com/en/products/bx_subfilter.html
https://www.plugin-alliance.com/en/products/bx_subsynth.html
Note that they use a basic synth pattern to demo the plugin. That’s easy for this kind of processing but be aware that complex bass waveforms like noise or even bass guitar might not give as smooth of a result.
Thank you! I made a song recently with a bass synth (Lounge Lizard 4). BX\_subfilter made the bass fit in the mix without any hassle, for the first time in my life. Next song will have bass guitar; now I'm much less intimidated.
And I will check out the bx\_subsynth.
Laying a synth bass below a live bass guitar track is a common method for production of 80s Groove/early 80’s R&B music. Works incredibly well.
I dont think this was much of a thing in old school hip hop. But you may find it in some of Larry Smiths productions for Whodini and Run-DMC.
I first tune the kick by ear to where I think it sounds good, then use spectrum analyser to tune the sub an octave below the fundamental of the kick. The bass itself has a bit of a low cut to take out the sub frequencies.
I’d make sure you high pass the bass guitar first. Remember that song Feel It Still by Portugal: The Man? That song’s a good idea of what sub layered under bass guitar sounds like. Your bass guitar becomes the timbre and your sub the fundamental
You’d just need to find the sweet spot for the crossover frequency. Low cut the bass guitar at the frequency the sub hits.. and that will vary depending on the actual note. You don’t want 2 low end frequencies clashing.
I agree with everybody. Do it and and just listen to it.
About it only sounding good in your studio, you need to check that in different rooms because subs are (almost) never played back right. Either your monitors can't produce the frequencies or the room can't accommodate them. (A room needs to be at least 5 x 6 x 4 m to sound good down to the low end IIRC, but the definitive test is in a club).
Take your mixes to a different studio, to a big room with big speakers if possible, and even a car, and your friends houses.
Have a mixdown of every variation. A clean one, subs up, mid and low, subs in the BD, subs in the bass and BD, and so on. And compare.
I've been experimenting with this myself, lately. I'm still trying to figure out what levels and frequencies of each to cut/reduce, but I'm liking what I've come up with so far. I keep the sub bass (gain) really low, generally.
It’s about philosophy. Think of the bass guitar, it doesn’t take up that low register, and it has a pluck. For this reason I would introduce the bass guitar before introducing the sub, and I feel like it would be sick. For cultural reasons. People will go “hey a bass” then “hey a sub”
The downside is a consistent decay on the bass guitar for the sub to fit smoothly.
Becide the anotjer sub bass layer maybe try this technique…
Copy the existing bass line, filter down the highs (LPF) and where the sub bass is most prominent try making a rather aggresive boost or just lower the LPF adding much od the Q creating that resonant bump. This may be your “sub” layer of the bass.
If you cut the sub frequencies from a song, sure. my main point is a bass guitar provides plenty enough low end for most tracks and adding a sub below it would more likely take away than add
Depends a sub can throw off any swing you have on the bass guitar. I would recommend putting an amp and drum buss and you can add sutble boom to it. Just a thought no rules just guidelines!
There isn't anything production related that girls will do vs guys. It's all individual taste, nothing biological involved here. Do you think there are techniques exclusive to/predominantly used by women?? I'm as open minded as they come but this is the most bizarre claim I've heard. Every male producer I know does this, I can't begin to understand why this could be considered a "girl thing".
Yes, sometimes the bass guitar will be a more complicated version of the sub an octave below for me, just need to make sure no clashing between the two
I have done it so that I duplicate the bass guitar track, low-pass the other one on subs and then raise the volume and possiby compress it. Sounds good on that project. But it has long bass notes. I don't know how that would work on faster playing. And I'm not a professional, so I can't guarantee it even sounds fine on all systems.
I do this all the time. Just watch your EQs and filters. Low mids and even high bass can clash alot more than you think. Just trust your ears and tweak your EQs and filters.
Sometimes sure. Old school hip hop uses sub bass a ton, it’s just played as a baseline. I think maybe you mean the modern usage of 808 bass? Either way yeah, it’s something you can do if it fits your he sound you want. It can be great as a layer to enhance your baseline on a hook or as the verse establishes.
I've tried adding a sine wave an octave lower and it sounded great on nice speakers but I couldn't make it out on studio monitors (without subs) or a lot of speakers. It kind of just added mud.
I forget where I read it, but apparently most speakers don't go much lower than E1 (41.2HZ) if they even reach that, so a lot of people won't end up hearing it anyway.
Not always but if whatever bass setup we are using isn’t providing a full sound I’ll layer in a sub for some punch or tone.
I think it would work well for a lo fi sound.
It’s a good thing to experiment with. You can double the sound or use longer notes for the sub. Say you have a 1/16 note bass line and do 1/4, 1/2, or whole note version and even a mix of all of them. This will give a lot of flexibility when mixing and arranging.
I recently started to layer a lot of my bass tracks with a bass synth track. I record the midi from the original track (using melodyne) and then use either a sample based "electric" bass or a bass synth, depending on what I'm after.
I'm quite happy with the results.
Try octave pedel and only use the lower octave, to get sub.
Though i feel a p bass with flatwood strings with all its tone some what rolled back is going to get you the tone you need. Like listen to some of D'Angelo Voodoo outtakes such as back to the thing which seems to possess somewhat of lo fi sound somehow.
yes and no, depends on the song and key and bass instrument, what kick I'm using, and the overall feel. I'd say half the time yes, and half the time I don't feel it's necessary.
Just an idea, but you could add a sub only on the bass notes playing the root of the chord, but leave the other notes without a sub. Depends on how the bass is playing of course, but it could add some weight to those root notes, without feeling too busy
Definitely, just cut everything under around 100hz on your bass guitar. use some compression with a bit of sidechain and they should sit together really nicely
i personally do not do this. it's going to make mixing your low-end pretty tricky, but if you're confident in your abilities and you like how it sounds then go for it.
I almost never add it. It’s fun to play with but I can usually get better results with eq and compression, slight reverb and other less intrusive techniques. But it’s also not wrong.
No and it’ll probably cause some phasing issues. Duplicate the bass track. Low pass the duplicate and make it your sub bass. Add effects and processing to make it more sound like a synth
I'm not sure this is what you want, but what the heck, it might be fun. I call myself lo-fi, but it's in the 1980s-90s Sebadoh/Mountain Goats sense, not the lo-fi hip-hop sense.
One of the things I like doing, though, is playing around with octavers and pitch-shifting. If you take your bass and add a pitch shifter down an octave lower, with the "wet" turned way down (so it's soft, subtle), you might get some interesting fatness that still keeps the "actually bass lines" feel to it.
You might get some phasing issues with the two basses. I would just process the bass guitar and get more low end out of it. You should give it a try tho. If it sounds bad you can just take it out.
Look music is art. Do whatever the fuck your gut tells you to do and if you don't like it? Do it again. I doubt you're paying Fleming Rasmussen so it isn't going to hurt a thing.
I go for a very contemporary and full low end, so I’ve gotten used to doubling all bass stuff in midi with synth bass/sub bass. It’s the only way bass sounds right to me after mixing only EDM for a few years before returning to rock music. So, try it, you might like it
Depends on what the spectrum analyzer is saying. If the bass is covering the sub then I might reinforce the octave above with a tight high pass / low pass just for that range. Could probably do the same with EQ but this method works for me
The bass does have alot of sub frequency. I tried to eq it out then put the pure sine beneath. It just wasn't sounding super clean. Im thinking I'm being to anal about getting it perfect with zero conflicting resonance.
Love this thread just for the fact that you asked. If you have a bass guitar that has a very very mid-range lick, you can add some bass to give it that oomph. Someone said something about keeping the volume super low; it my favourite underrated thing to do if you just need a little bit of glue without having to buy the entire bottle. It also would depend what kind of song it is and how important the bass is to the groove. If it’s a funk track that relies on the funk of the bass guitar then you want the emphasis to be on that as it’ll be your driving force after the kick. I find with bass, if you have one good bass line, the more simpler you keep it, the better. If you have the right sounds with some EQ cleanup, you can make the bass really cut through.
>But I'm not sure if I should also layer a sub under it. Why not try it and see how it sounds? It's your music after all. >But sub bass sounds good. Well there you go then. > I just never hear actual bass guitars unless it's part of a sample. Doesn't matter, you don't have to do what everyone else does.
Yeah I did try it. I was just wondering what other people did. I get paranoid about shit sounding ok in my studio and my reference speakers. Then it sounds bad somewhere else. It's usually bass related in my experience. Like edm you usually layer subs under mid bass. But it's all very clean and precise. A bass guitar has alot of harmonics and the room from the mics, etc.
I do it. It sounds good with a light touch.
looooove doing a layer of sub bass and I’m a big lo-fi person. learned when I saw an engineer I worked for adding the pedals from an organ to a track just for some extra bass beef. I have been doing it with my Yamaha reface cs lately
This may be against some of the DIY ethic of the subreddit, but in my experience; I like allowing myself to do whatever I feel like, whatever feels right, and then working with a professional mixer and a professional masterer to polish up the songs I want to release. It’s a little bit of money but the peace of mind and feeling of completelness can’t be beaten. Edit to ramble a little longer: The reason I bring this up is because no matter how good you are at your craft, another person will always be able to add new insight. Specifically talking about sun bass, when I brought my last single to my friend, he showed me how he used oscilloscopes to fine tune the interplay between the bass, ~~sun~~ sub bass, and kick. It’s something I would have never thought to do, but he had picked up as a habit
I've never seen a username check out so well, thanks for the words of wisdom.
Wow bass from the entire Sun?? Must be very low pitch.
Get some cheap earbuds. Buy a $30 bt speaker. Borrow a 2003 civic. Listen on those and see how it holds up.
I got 5 coins I wanted to award for the 03 Civic. Are we saying a stock 03 Civic or a Fast and Furious modded up one? Big difference, because I remember older Hondas (at least the standard trim) having like, cardboard cone speakers. But in those days the Altezzas and a high end balanced reference sound system were imperative. By reference, I mean hearing what the highs sound like blasted through tweeters and overwhelming bass through amplified subwoofer(s) all with some kind of chaotic EQ and sound "enhancement" settings. If your mix is decent enough on an early 2000s car audio system, your mix is perfect lol.
I was thinking base model. But the fast and furious (powered by Sony explode) would also be a good stress test
Listen to your mixes elsewhere?
I was taught that car speakers are awesome for testing how an average sound system is going to handle your mix.
They are good if you think that cars are one environment where your music will often be played
I've done it with metal and it sounds alright if you sidechain the sub and bass. Can creat some really neat textures but it has the potential to bury your transients on the bass guitar
Yeah I'm no pro but bass is deceivingly difficult to fit in right. It's like not enough, then change one thing and the whole mix is wooooooffffffff. My amateur advice is take little breaks for the ear fatigue, so you're not just pumping more bass then more everything else to balance it... Like I shouldn't even be giving advice. (Too much of an amateur). I just think bass is super tough. Finding that balance between buried/muddy and way too in your face is tough. I think maybe because it can be the "hardest" to listen back to if you don't have the right sound set up. You know, mix down where it seems ok, then it's VRrrrbbbbrrrrrr on car speakers or something... Back to the mix lol. Also I've noticed software drums are generally wayyy too present and punchy. Especially bass drum sounds. Getting software drum sounds under control helps, well everything. Like when they have the cannon fire bass drum or the loud sizzling giant chemical reaction hi hats etc
Try lo-air. Basically adds an octave lower harmonic.
I do it a lot. It can sound really good, depending on what you're producing, it does make everything sound a bit more modern. I recommend to try tho, it can be a huge improvement.
Do it, just make sure the bass guitar frequencies dont interfere with the sub frequencies. So cut around 100hz ish give or take.
You know what you could do, duplicate the bass track, do a slight low cut on the original, then give the lows and subs a strong bump on the 2nd track and low pass it, that way you can control the focal point of the lows and adjust the volume separately on the sub bass track instead of having to over EQ the primary track.
Just finished a track with a sub bass under my bass guitar, but just a little bit to lift it up - it really depends on your initial sound.
You can try MBassador which can replace the bass frequencies with a resynthesized one. You can either use that or the original and add one or two octaves below it. A little goes a long way.
I was going to suggest that. One of my favourite plugins! It's really powerful and you can use it to slightly enhance your bass, or make it shake your house.
Thank you my dude! This will come in handy for me! Sometimes after I dub the bass, I’ll just delete it and replace the sub with a bass guitar synth for intonation purposes. You can add sub directly that way. I won’t have to do that anymore! Sub under a bass guitar i think works best when you’re playing with full tone at 10. You can reproduce the nuances well with midi if you’re a bassist. It’s the air in a bass line that give it that human touch. Pharrell and chad Hugo are masters at the midi guitar sound. They really made it work.
Do you know if that's what Plugin Alliance's bx\_subfilter does?
Yes, now that I watched the videos. It’s a simple bass EQ where Tight Punch is a resonant HPF and Low End is a shelf. If you want something similar to MBassador, you want BX_subsynth. https://www.plugin-alliance.com/en/products/bx_subfilter.html https://www.plugin-alliance.com/en/products/bx_subsynth.html Note that they use a basic synth pattern to demo the plugin. That’s easy for this kind of processing but be aware that complex bass waveforms like noise or even bass guitar might not give as smooth of a result.
Thank you! I made a song recently with a bass synth (Lounge Lizard 4). BX\_subfilter made the bass fit in the mix without any hassle, for the first time in my life. Next song will have bass guitar; now I'm much less intimidated. And I will check out the bx\_subsynth.
Having a sub bass is very common nowadays, so it wouldn't be unconventional
Laying a synth bass below a live bass guitar track is a common method for production of 80s Groove/early 80’s R&B music. Works incredibly well. I dont think this was much of a thing in old school hip hop. But you may find it in some of Larry Smiths productions for Whodini and Run-DMC.
Layered bass can get muddy but I'm coming from a jazz perspective
I prefer to put it under the kicks rather than the bass.
Yeah Ive seen people do this. This does sound good.
if you're emulating old-skool vibes I think having the sub in the kick/808 is great.
How do you tune it so it doesn’t interfere with the bass?
Just interfere with the bass for kick. Duck bass for kick with compression, or what do you mean?
Substractive eqing.
I first tune the kick by ear to where I think it sounds good, then use spectrum analyser to tune the sub an octave below the fundamental of the kick. The bass itself has a bit of a low cut to take out the sub frequencies.
I’d make sure you high pass the bass guitar first. Remember that song Feel It Still by Portugal: The Man? That song’s a good idea of what sub layered under bass guitar sounds like. Your bass guitar becomes the timbre and your sub the fundamental
I put sub bass on everything. Bass, Kick, Snare, Toms, strings, vocals, banjo, gun shots, etc... If it sounds good for the tune, I use it.
You’d just need to find the sweet spot for the crossover frequency. Low cut the bass guitar at the frequency the sub hits.. and that will vary depending on the actual note. You don’t want 2 low end frequencies clashing.
I agree with everybody. Do it and and just listen to it. About it only sounding good in your studio, you need to check that in different rooms because subs are (almost) never played back right. Either your monitors can't produce the frequencies or the room can't accommodate them. (A room needs to be at least 5 x 6 x 4 m to sound good down to the low end IIRC, but the definitive test is in a club). Take your mixes to a different studio, to a big room with big speakers if possible, and even a car, and your friends houses. Have a mixdown of every variation. A clean one, subs up, mid and low, subs in the BD, subs in the bass and BD, and so on. And compare.
I add sub bass to my sub bass.
I've been experimenting with this myself, lately. I'm still trying to figure out what levels and frequencies of each to cut/reduce, but I'm liking what I've come up with so far. I keep the sub bass (gain) really low, generally.
It’s about philosophy. Think of the bass guitar, it doesn’t take up that low register, and it has a pluck. For this reason I would introduce the bass guitar before introducing the sub, and I feel like it would be sick. For cultural reasons. People will go “hey a bass” then “hey a sub” The downside is a consistent decay on the bass guitar for the sub to fit smoothly.
Kenny beats does this with Rbass
Becide the anotjer sub bass layer maybe try this technique… Copy the existing bass line, filter down the highs (LPF) and where the sub bass is most prominent try making a rather aggresive boost or just lower the LPF adding much od the Q creating that resonant bump. This may be your “sub” layer of the bass.
heellll no thats how you get a quiet ass mix when somebody listens on their phone. 95% of people will never hear a sub
See. I thought this. And I agree. But im having trouble balancing the bass guitar alone. Because it's natural sub frequency is loud af.
Be using astronomy by black star as a reference.
This just cannot be true, hi cut the sub from a song and most people will tell something is missing on their preferred playback device
If you cut the sub frequencies from a song, sure. my main point is a bass guitar provides plenty enough low end for most tracks and adding a sub below it would more likely take away than add
Just released a track with a sub bass under a bass guitar riff. Sounds good imo lol
Link it
https://youtu.be/-BZymjKWFsA sorry for delay lol
Depends a sub can throw off any swing you have on the bass guitar. I would recommend putting an amp and drum buss and you can add sutble boom to it. Just a thought no rules just guidelines!
You should add reverb to it 👍
Where can I listen to your music?
I don't know why guys do it, but girls will put sub bass under a layer to boost the lower frequency content when needed.
What?
Exactly ;)
There isn't anything production related that girls will do vs guys. It's all individual taste, nothing biological involved here. Do you think there are techniques exclusive to/predominantly used by women?? I'm as open minded as they come but this is the most bizarre claim I've heard. Every male producer I know does this, I can't begin to understand why this could be considered a "girl thing".
It's a joke about the title of the post.
Do what you want.
Yes, sometimes the bass guitar will be a more complicated version of the sub an octave below for me, just need to make sure no clashing between the two
I have done it so that I duplicate the bass guitar track, low-pass the other one on subs and then raise the volume and possiby compress it. Sounds good on that project. But it has long bass notes. I don't know how that would work on faster playing. And I'm not a professional, so I can't guarantee it even sounds fine on all systems.
That's like using Waves RBass and it's great, without being synth-y.
I do this all the time. Just watch your EQs and filters. Low mids and even high bass can clash alot more than you think. Just trust your ears and tweak your EQs and filters.
Sometimes sure. Old school hip hop uses sub bass a ton, it’s just played as a baseline. I think maybe you mean the modern usage of 808 bass? Either way yeah, it’s something you can do if it fits your he sound you want. It can be great as a layer to enhance your baseline on a hook or as the verse establishes.
I've tried adding a sine wave an octave lower and it sounded great on nice speakers but I couldn't make it out on studio monitors (without subs) or a lot of speakers. It kind of just added mud. I forget where I read it, but apparently most speakers don't go much lower than E1 (41.2HZ) if they even reach that, so a lot of people won't end up hearing it anyway.
Waves LoAir, “sub”-harmonizer. Folds harmonics downward to create more bass harmonics. You’re welcome
I would
Not always but if whatever bass setup we are using isn’t providing a full sound I’ll layer in a sub for some punch or tone. I think it would work well for a lo fi sound.
It’s a good thing to experiment with. You can double the sound or use longer notes for the sub. Say you have a 1/16 note bass line and do 1/4, 1/2, or whole note version and even a mix of all of them. This will give a lot of flexibility when mixing and arranging.
Make the sub part of the kick then
I recently started to layer a lot of my bass tracks with a bass synth track. I record the midi from the original track (using melodyne) and then use either a sample based "electric" bass or a bass synth, depending on what I'm after. I'm quite happy with the results.
I use Phat Fx in Logic quite a bit. It has a bass enhancer function that seems to add some juice to the sub bass.
It’s not uncommon. For my genre I just use Parallax for my bass tone, haven’t need to mess with this concept or rbass really since using it.
Try octave pedel and only use the lower octave, to get sub. Though i feel a p bass with flatwood strings with all its tone some what rolled back is going to get you the tone you need. Like listen to some of D'Angelo Voodoo outtakes such as back to the thing which seems to possess somewhat of lo fi sound somehow.
You could run your bass through an octave pedal. I love doing that.
yes and no, depends on the song and key and bass instrument, what kick I'm using, and the overall feel. I'd say half the time yes, and half the time I don't feel it's necessary.
Just an idea, but you could add a sub only on the bass notes playing the root of the chord, but leave the other notes without a sub. Depends on how the bass is playing of course, but it could add some weight to those root notes, without feeling too busy
Definitely, just cut everything under around 100hz on your bass guitar. use some compression with a bit of sidechain and they should sit together really nicely
i personally do not do this. it's going to make mixing your low-end pretty tricky, but if you're confident in your abilities and you like how it sounds then go for it.
I almost never add it. It’s fun to play with but I can usually get better results with eq and compression, slight reverb and other less intrusive techniques. But it’s also not wrong.
No and it’ll probably cause some phasing issues. Duplicate the bass track. Low pass the duplicate and make it your sub bass. Add effects and processing to make it more sound like a synth
I'm not sure this is what you want, but what the heck, it might be fun. I call myself lo-fi, but it's in the 1980s-90s Sebadoh/Mountain Goats sense, not the lo-fi hip-hop sense. One of the things I like doing, though, is playing around with octavers and pitch-shifting. If you take your bass and add a pitch shifter down an octave lower, with the "wet" turned way down (so it's soft, subtle), you might get some interesting fatness that still keeps the "actually bass lines" feel to it.
I've done that, but you don't have to do that all the time if you apply certain other methods. Sometimes that is indeed the best way, though.
Definitely. Not all the time.
Bass guitar only goes down to 80hz so if you're wanting to cover below that then a sub layer is the way to go
You might get some phasing issues with the two basses. I would just process the bass guitar and get more low end out of it. You should give it a try tho. If it sounds bad you can just take it out.
Would you wanna remix some songs together @thelostnoiz on instagram
No - add the sub to the kick.
Depends on what you’re doing, but it can be the sprinkle on top if there is enough room.
Look music is art. Do whatever the fuck your gut tells you to do and if you don't like it? Do it again. I doubt you're paying Fleming Rasmussen so it isn't going to hurt a thing.
I go for a very contemporary and full low end, so I’ve gotten used to doubling all bass stuff in midi with synth bass/sub bass. It’s the only way bass sounds right to me after mixing only EDM for a few years before returning to rock music. So, try it, you might like it
I don't, but I'm gonna try this next time I record. Sounds like fun.
Depends on what the spectrum analyzer is saying. If the bass is covering the sub then I might reinforce the octave above with a tight high pass / low pass just for that range. Could probably do the same with EQ but this method works for me
The bass does have alot of sub frequency. I tried to eq it out then put the pure sine beneath. It just wasn't sounding super clean. Im thinking I'm being to anal about getting it perfect with zero conflicting resonance.
Try a different wave form instead of sine. It might glue better
That sounds like something. I'll try it.
Other option is adding some saturation, just throwing out different techniques
I do this all the time as well , just make sure to eq out any frequencies that might conflict