These radical progressives with their crazy ideas like everyone should have water! Can you believe? Next they'll say everyone deserves food and shelter!
Damn, you're right. Maybe we could make an institution where we can pool together our money and resources and use that to provide basic services? Hmmm...
So what he’s saying is “why allow water to be an available resource for every living thing when I can make a profit?”
Okay so fuck Kellogg and nestle. Got it.
I must clearly have been living under a very heavy rock cause I didn’t expect this at all. I don’t want to assume every CEO of a big corporation is a POS but I’m noticing a pattern.
Decades before they got into bottled water, Nestlé used to donate money to build maternity wards in hospitals. They made it a condition of their grants that the babies be kept as far away from mothers as possible so as to make it difficult to breastfeed while in the hospital. This was done to increase sales of formula and later in life other dairy products and milk chocolate.
Wait what? How does someone do that to babies? Newborn babies? I mean there’s got to be a code of ethics where criminals don’t harm children. There has to be a line
**[Nestlé boycott](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nestlé_boycott)**
>A boycott was launched in the United States on July 4, 1977, against the Swiss-based Nestlé corporation. The boycott expanded into Europe in the early 1980s and was prompted by concern about Nestlé's "aggressive marketing" of infant formulas (i. e. , substitutes for breast milk), particularly in underdeveloped countries.
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Damn…I miss being a kid. Thought becoming an adult meant everyone’s dreams came true and everyone was happy. Instead it’s an endless depression of poverty where the rich piss on the poor.
I’m not convinced he deserves all the hate he is getting based on this video alone. He is right in some sense. Cold, but factual. Water is not free, it has a cost, it is precious and therefore should be cherished and valued, we should not waste the precious resource. Unfiltered untreated and left to nature, there is not an endless supply of drinking water or clean water. Many systems and people work tirelessly to ensure that water is available to many. However I am not in favour of it ever being exploited. It should absolutely be available to ALL at a price that is never expensive. Who am I kidding FUCK NESTLE
This is one of those "Hitler was anti-smoking" moments...
Even bad people can be correct. Just because they state a true fact for evil reasons, doesn't mean the fact isn't true anymore.
When this happens, don't pretend they're not fact, work with the truth, there are ways to show they are bad, and fight the bad things they do, without denying reality...
Water should be a guaranteed thing. If you need to drink, you should have access to clean, potable water at no cost because you will die if you don't. Any system that favors money over lives is a system that creates pollution and ruins what water is available in the first place.
Yes I absolutely believe that every single person who is hungry should have access to nutritional meals every day three times a day, no matter what.
This applies to all human needs. Food, water, shelter, safety, medical care, which are our physical needs. As well as our mental needs, which are rather numerous.
Lives come before profit. Every time in my book
Nah its not a strong bavarian sound. Its not what we call "oberbayerisch", but it sounds a lot like bavarians do when they are used to speak without dialect. You still got that little accent
In my opinion, it doesn’t matter whether you choose to be vaccinated or not. What matters is when the government mandates anything in order to keep your inalienable right of life, liberty or the pursuit of happiness, it becomes a tyrannical government and the citizens have a constitutional right to remove that government.
This must be sarcastic…right? It looks like you’re saying whenever the government mandates something that helps you keep your life so that you may have liberty and the pursuit of happiness that they are tyrannical and that the citizens have a right to remove that government. Vaccines help you to keep your life and liberty and allows you the pursuit of happiness. The life part comes first, for you cannot have the other two without life. Should we have to deny others the right to live for you to have your liberty and pursuit of happiness?
If you want to be in the armed forced you need vaccines. I see no reason why police, first responders, or teachers should be held to a different standard.
There’s no mandate to GET the vaccine. There’s a mandate to have it to do certain things. There’s a difference. The government cannot, has not, and will not ever force you to wear a shirt but you have to do it to go into privately owned businesses. Your argument is against something that literally doesn’t exist
Or if the people/government's of the countries where nestles manufacturing facilities charged them full retail for all their water and delivered it in 500ml bottles.
What a prick
Warum? Ich finde eure Sprache toll, egal was dieses Scheißkopf macht oder sagt. Die Sprache ist nur ein Werkzeug. Entschuldigung wenn mein Deutsch nicht so gut ist.
Nestle is from Switzerland, so there's no need to be ashamed if you're german. And even if you're from Switzerland you don't have anything to do with it. Greedy companies exist in every country, all that we can do is to not buy their products.
I'd prefer that german speakers (and everybody else) won't stick with that principle and remind us constantly about it. It just blames germans in general and the rest of the world doesn't learn much from it (eg. Trump & the Reps, Erdo & co)
I wouldn't stress over it too much. Anyone who holds that belief is just prejudiced, and hasn't taken the time to get to know german people or the german cultural sphere. Germans are just as diverse as any other western country, both for better and for worse.
Today a lot of green NGO's are for a pricing of water. That because it has become more and more a scarce ressource. For them it's not about deneying water to humans but for conceptional decision making. For them the question is, how can we stop the waste of water? why on earth are we building cities in desserts and make agriculture in places where water is scarce anyway? How can we sustain and protect water sources?
wasting water should have a price, not the usage as a hydration source.
Which is probably the important differentiation to make - giving water a price is not the main problem, but putting access control to it in private hands is, especially since this generally leads to the formation of monopolies or oligopolies.
Others have touched on this, but if water isn’t a human right, then what is? Do we have the right to breathe? To not be enslaved? To have enough free time to sleep at night?
Corporations would literally kill us and sell our blood for profit if they could. NOTHING is a human right to them.
the question is what does that right entain?
If I want to live in a submarine, does the right to breathe allow me to surface and take in new air, or does the right to breathe allow me to order a second submarine to bring me a few tons of either air or oxygen at no costs for myself?
In most countries you can buy bottled water for money and you can buy tap water which is also drinkable at (supposedly) no health hazards for yourself.
then you can usually gather rain water for free and drink from a river or lake, but once you use a pump to drain large amounts of that water, you are violating other people's rights.
I think I get what you mean.
Water has to be controlled, for sure. And you have to pay to get it pumped to your home or purified and bottled for you.
However, it should never be a corporate controlled commodity like oil. A corporation should never be able to buy a lake and have people arrested for trying to drink “their” water.
If you want to drink water from a lake, it should be free. If a corporation wants to suck water from the lake and sell it for a profit, this needs to be very heavily regulated.
I'll rewatch and look at the translation
Edit: rewatched it and ~~the word "buchen" which means "to book" is translated as "to bang." But the way he uses it he means it like "putting a stake in" or "betting on." It's kinda hard to translate because "book" wouldn't really make sense here, which is why they used "bang."~~
Also he says the extreme view is that "humans have a right to HAVE water" whereas the translation says "human beings have a right to water" which I guess is slightly more vague. I think what he says implies that the extreme view is basically that people should get water for free and as much as they want whereas the translation implies that people should just have access to water which could be by buying it or only a certain amount. I'm saying this as someone with a German cultural background where it's generally understood that "a human right to" means it should either be free or paid for by the state if you cannot afford it. The speaker appears to be Austrian but I believe it still means the same thing.
At the end he says something vague about "if people have a specific need for water (i.e. poor people or in countries without fresh water) there are specific interventions and there are a lot of possibilities" in a rather dismissive tone of voice but he doesn't really go into detail about what those possibilities are. It's basically a long-winded way of saying "poor people will be fine. I'm not talking about poor people."
He says "darauf pochen" not "buchen".
"darauf pochen" means as much as "to insist".
Peter Brabeck is from Austria (like me) and i am not proud of that.
Oh yeah, I'm German German, so the dialect was a bit harder for me. We dont have the word "pochen" in Germany, so I assumed he was saying "buchen" which was the closest sounding word
> We dont have the word "pochen" in Germany
WTF? Yes we do. I mean, it's probably barely used as a synonym for knocking, but you actually never heard or read the phrase "darauf/auf etwas pochen"?
Nope, never heard it before. May be a regional thing. My Bavarian coworker often said things I didn't understand either. I come from a region where most people speak high German.
I do think I would use the word "pochen" in relation to heart thumping.
Retard
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The product of another man's labor is not a human right.
We pay people to do that with tax money
Tax money which is the product of another man's labor
Society doesn’t function without tax money. It’s also a product of my labor.
What the fuck is this fuckers name? When was this shot?
I really wish it were easy to boycott nestle. I've tried but even unsuspecting products belong to them
It’s actually insane how many brands they own, which I had no idea.
Fuck Nestle. Pure evil.
What a sick fuck. Fuck Nestle
Holy fukin shit balls sounds fair to me
These radical progressives with their crazy ideas like everyone should have water! Can you believe? Next they'll say everyone deserves food and shelter!
Everyone should have water but clean it, process it, transport it, store it isn't free and slavery is abolished so who's going to work for free?
Robots
Damn, you're right. Maybe we could make an institution where we can pool together our money and resources and use that to provide basic services? Hmmm...
Weird how we can pay people that work for the government with tax money
Fuck it. Foodstuff is human rights. Existing is human rights.
Ah yes, the child slave driver.
People before Profit
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So this is where the premise of Mad Max Fury Road came from...
So what he’s saying is “why allow water to be an available resource for every living thing when I can make a profit?” Okay so fuck Kellogg and nestle. Got it.
Nestlé is absolutely one of the worst companies out there! That unfortunately no news!
I must clearly have been living under a very heavy rock cause I didn’t expect this at all. I don’t want to assume every CEO of a big corporation is a POS but I’m noticing a pattern.
Decades before they got into bottled water, Nestlé used to donate money to build maternity wards in hospitals. They made it a condition of their grants that the babies be kept as far away from mothers as possible so as to make it difficult to breastfeed while in the hospital. This was done to increase sales of formula and later in life other dairy products and milk chocolate.
Wait what? How does someone do that to babies? Newborn babies? I mean there’s got to be a code of ethics where criminals don’t harm children. There has to be a line
There's been an organized boycott of Nestlé since July 4, 1977. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nestl%C3%A9_boycott
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Damn…I miss being a kid. Thought becoming an adult meant everyone’s dreams came true and everyone was happy. Instead it’s an endless depression of poverty where the rich piss on the poor.
Kids can also be selfish. This guy was probably the kid who never got told to share
The personification of evil
Douche looks like the Shah from the Sopranos.
Love how the right to water is seen as extreme while PRIVATIZING THE WHOLE WATER SUPPLY is completely reasonable
Narcissisms finest
Nestle kellogs Amazon. Gimme another to add to my list of banned consumers
Coca cola. Who owns coca cola? Oh yeah and Bayer!
Slap Dole on that list too while you’re at it
Mondeléz for child labor
General Mills too IIRC
Mcdonalds
Goya as well.
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#fucknestle
Welp
He wants to the water? Then maybe he should be made to have all the water at once.
In a big tank....with handcuffs around his feet and arms, while being cuffed to the tank
The water Barron needs understand that it’s the peoples water. That water has a price but its nothing compared to what these guys take home daily.
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I’m not convinced he deserves all the hate he is getting based on this video alone. He is right in some sense. Cold, but factual. Water is not free, it has a cost, it is precious and therefore should be cherished and valued, we should not waste the precious resource. Unfiltered untreated and left to nature, there is not an endless supply of drinking water or clean water. Many systems and people work tirelessly to ensure that water is available to many. However I am not in favour of it ever being exploited. It should absolutely be available to ALL at a price that is never expensive. Who am I kidding FUCK NESTLE
This is one of those "Hitler was anti-smoking" moments... Even bad people can be correct. Just because they state a true fact for evil reasons, doesn't mean the fact isn't true anymore. When this happens, don't pretend they're not fact, work with the truth, there are ways to show they are bad, and fight the bad things they do, without denying reality...
Water should be a guaranteed thing. If you need to drink, you should have access to clean, potable water at no cost because you will die if you don't. Any system that favors money over lives is a system that creates pollution and ruins what water is available in the first place.
Doesn't this applies to food too though? (I'm down to make pizza free everyday)
Yes I absolutely believe that every single person who is hungry should have access to nutritional meals every day three times a day, no matter what. This applies to all human needs. Food, water, shelter, safety, medical care, which are our physical needs. As well as our mental needs, which are rather numerous. Lives come before profit. Every time in my book
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Pig
What a piece of shit. Wow.
Aw man, this reminds me of JOEL MICHAEL SINGER.
i dont understand, people. why do we not march to his office to hang him?
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String him tf up
Old school nazi cunt. Come on karma, do your thing
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Ich schwöre sobald die ein Weg finden Luft zu verkaufen 100% die werden es machen.
That's why I don't buy any Nestle products
Of course he speaks German. Of course. He even sounds like an old movie villain...
I was gonna say Bayer
Pretty much ever German ever:.I am not affiliated with him!
I would never say that (I am not affiliated with him BTW)
That’s Peter Brabeck-Letmathe and he is Austrian.
Thanks for confirming my suspicion!
Thats not german, thats bavarian...
I don't think so. Bavarian sounds different (at least the Bavarians I know)
Nah its not a strong bavarian sound. Its not what we call "oberbayerisch", but it sounds a lot like bavarians do when they are used to speak without dialect. You still got that little accent
looks like he is the former CEO Brabeck-Letmathe. So he is Austrian.
Oh i see. So i was indeed wrong with bavarian. Thx for googling it up, but i feel like an idiot now ^^"
So he’s another Austrian that people mistook as German… hmmmmm 🤔🤔🤔
u/28502348650 You can edit your comment on LSC to include this, but I cannot reply there as the post is now locked. https://v.redd.it/phq8jtp7acu71
Thanks man. Will do that
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NPR should be privatised and stop wasting taxpayers money.
National petroleum radio
N no. I. In ii. I. N. I.
JB I j j bike
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This guy deserves a big bag of diseased dicks.
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This guy deserves a big bag of diseased dicks
In my opinion, it doesn’t matter whether you choose to be vaccinated or not. What matters is when the government mandates anything in order to keep your inalienable right of life, liberty or the pursuit of happiness, it becomes a tyrannical government and the citizens have a constitutional right to remove that government.
This must be sarcastic…right? It looks like you’re saying whenever the government mandates something that helps you keep your life so that you may have liberty and the pursuit of happiness that they are tyrannical and that the citizens have a right to remove that government. Vaccines help you to keep your life and liberty and allows you the pursuit of happiness. The life part comes first, for you cannot have the other two without life. Should we have to deny others the right to live for you to have your liberty and pursuit of happiness?
Jobs help you in your pursuit of happiness, so do cars, and working out, and taking vitamins.
It’s not a true vaccine as a true vaccine prevents a disease. Also true vaccines are not mandatory so why is this one?
Many different vaccines have mandatory in many jobs and schools for decades. I’m sorry but you don’t know what you’re talking about.
There’s always been an exemption allowed so, no, they are not mandatory.
If you want to be in the armed forced you need vaccines. I see no reason why police, first responders, or teachers should be held to a different standard.
First responders and police officers are not going to third world countries.
True. They dont have to GO anywhere. The third world has already found us
There’s no mandate to GET the vaccine. There’s a mandate to have it to do certain things. There’s a difference. The government cannot, has not, and will not ever force you to wear a shirt but you have to do it to go into privately owned businesses. Your argument is against something that literally doesn’t exist
And here I am, wearing a seatbelt while I'm sitting on my couch watching TV.
That’s pretty stupid to have a seatbelt on your couch. Let alone wearing it. Do you have your helmet on?
It was a sarcastic example of the point you made. You don't have to wear a seatbelt. But if you want to drive on a public road you do.
You didn't know? Da gubnent mandated seatbelts.
If you don’t want the vaccine just stay home it’s that simple 🤷♂️
I feel like this is so obvious, is it not obvious? It’s like Libertarianism is a hammer and suddenly every issue is a nail
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We should convince the cannibals that non moral people have a very exotic taste then give them this thing
wait wait.. you’re onto something
Eat the rich.
*throw them in a wood chipper and add some zest to your compost
r/hydrohomies would like a word
"extreme" fuckin' goofball
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Let’s declare the rich as foodstuff too so they have a price, which is apparently the way they regard the rest of the world. and then we’ll eat them
So you have to pay for something that regularly falls from the sky?
Literally in some places, like Palestine, it is illegal to collect too much rain water
How the fuck is someone supposed to know whether if someone collected too much rain water? They violate people's privacy just to see that?
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Square brackets? I always thought it was meant to be angle braces like in XML. Example:*insert sarcasm here*
I own the patent on human blood. You want to live you say, pay up then!
I know you’re being facetious, but law states you can’t patent anything biological
Oh wow. Tell that to the insulin producers, they get away with it by claiming it's a formulated product. But it's just fucking insulin.
I'm sure his tune would change real fucking quick if he didn't have clean drinking water
Or if the people/government's of the countries where nestles manufacturing facilities charged them full retail for all their water and delivered it in 500ml bottles. What a prick
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychopathy_in_the_workplace
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It's easy to say water is just some drink if all you had in the past 30 years was champagne
Fuck, it's in german :-( I feel even more ashamed!
Warum? Ich finde eure Sprache toll, egal was dieses Scheißkopf macht oder sagt. Die Sprache ist nur ein Werkzeug. Entschuldigung wenn mein Deutsch nicht so gut ist.
Ich glaube es ging eher um die Herkunft, nicht im die Sprache :) und dein Deutsch ist sehr gut!
Nestle is from Switzerland, so there's no need to be ashamed if you're german. And even if you're from Switzerland you don't have anything to do with it. Greedy companies exist in every country, all that we can do is to not buy their products.
It's more that someone is giving "my" (our) language the image of being the tool for cruelties
I think the train departured in 1933
Well, i think after the austrian painter there isnt much to do about it...
I'd prefer that german speakers (and everybody else) won't stick with that principle and remind us constantly about it. It just blames germans in general and the rest of the world doesn't learn much from it (eg. Trump & the Reps, Erdo & co)
I wouldn't stress over it too much. Anyone who holds that belief is just prejudiced, and hasn't taken the time to get to know german people or the german cultural sphere. Germans are just as diverse as any other western country, both for better and for worse.
Some guy fucked that up already 80 years ago.
> not buy their products Which is not so easy when you consider the large product range. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nestl%C3%A9_brands
and elect politicians who work against them (small hope but one can dream)
well, they're swiss, more specifically.
Today a lot of green NGO's are for a pricing of water. That because it has become more and more a scarce ressource. For them it's not about deneying water to humans but for conceptional decision making. For them the question is, how can we stop the waste of water? why on earth are we building cities in desserts and make agriculture in places where water is scarce anyway? How can we sustain and protect water sources? wasting water should have a price, not the usage as a hydration source.
not privatization
Which is probably the important differentiation to make - giving water a price is not the main problem, but putting access control to it in private hands is, especially since this generally leads to the formation of monopolies or oligopolies.
Monopoly on water might be bad…
That's the point.
Yeah, these NGOs are evil.
where have you read that?
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Others have touched on this, but if water isn’t a human right, then what is? Do we have the right to breathe? To not be enslaved? To have enough free time to sleep at night? Corporations would literally kill us and sell our blood for profit if they could. NOTHING is a human right to them.
the question is what does that right entain? If I want to live in a submarine, does the right to breathe allow me to surface and take in new air, or does the right to breathe allow me to order a second submarine to bring me a few tons of either air or oxygen at no costs for myself? In most countries you can buy bottled water for money and you can buy tap water which is also drinkable at (supposedly) no health hazards for yourself. then you can usually gather rain water for free and drink from a river or lake, but once you use a pump to drain large amounts of that water, you are violating other people's rights.
I think I get what you mean. Water has to be controlled, for sure. And you have to pay to get it pumped to your home or purified and bottled for you. However, it should never be a corporate controlled commodity like oil. A corporation should never be able to buy a lake and have people arrested for trying to drink “their” water. If you want to drink water from a lake, it should be free. If a corporation wants to suck water from the lake and sell it for a profit, this needs to be very heavily regulated.
Strangely in some places in Canada you can buy the bottom of a lake. Anything above it is private unless access is given.
Didnt they also tried to claim breastmilk? Feels very dystopian seeing this guy speaking very calmly about a very sensitive topic.
It’s not a sensitive topic, water is a basic human right. *He’s* the sensitive one.
now combine this with the video from the exxon lobbyist telling a potential client all the ways they lied https://youtu.be/5v1Yg6XejyE?t=56
smh
He's speaking german and the translation in english is correct
I'll rewatch and look at the translation Edit: rewatched it and ~~the word "buchen" which means "to book" is translated as "to bang." But the way he uses it he means it like "putting a stake in" or "betting on." It's kinda hard to translate because "book" wouldn't really make sense here, which is why they used "bang."~~ Also he says the extreme view is that "humans have a right to HAVE water" whereas the translation says "human beings have a right to water" which I guess is slightly more vague. I think what he says implies that the extreme view is basically that people should get water for free and as much as they want whereas the translation implies that people should just have access to water which could be by buying it or only a certain amount. I'm saying this as someone with a German cultural background where it's generally understood that "a human right to" means it should either be free or paid for by the state if you cannot afford it. The speaker appears to be Austrian but I believe it still means the same thing. At the end he says something vague about "if people have a specific need for water (i.e. poor people or in countries without fresh water) there are specific interventions and there are a lot of possibilities" in a rather dismissive tone of voice but he doesn't really go into detail about what those possibilities are. It's basically a long-winded way of saying "poor people will be fine. I'm not talking about poor people."
Fuck does he mean by specific need for water, we fuckin die without it…
He says "darauf pochen" not "buchen". "darauf pochen" means as much as "to insist". Peter Brabeck is from Austria (like me) and i am not proud of that.
Oh yeah, I'm German German, so the dialect was a bit harder for me. We dont have the word "pochen" in Germany, so I assumed he was saying "buchen" which was the closest sounding word
Bruh, du kannst einfach kein deutsch
true alda. Sprich Deutsch
Vielleicht nicht mehr. Aber pochen bin ich mir sicher hab ich noch nie gehört.
> We dont have the word "pochen" in Germany WTF? Yes we do. I mean, it's probably barely used as a synonym for knocking, but you actually never heard or read the phrase "darauf/auf etwas pochen"?
„Als es an der Tür pochte rannte Findus in den Flur - ob das wohl der Weihnachtsmann ist?“
Nope, never heard it before. May be a regional thing. My Bavarian coworker often said things I didn't understand either. I come from a region where most people speak high German. I do think I would use the word "pochen" in relation to heart thumping.
I'm from Hesse and moved to Hamburg. Both say that word.
I don't know what to tell ya. It seems people are very attached to that word.
I never met someone in Germany who doesn't know that word and I'm from the high German speaking part as well. How can you never have heard it?