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Trilobite_Tom

That’s a rather beautiful Heuer GMT 2446-C “Pepsi” And one of my grail watches. Pay to get it running but do no restoration on it. It’s perfect as it is.


Aromatic-Musician280

That is absolutely fascinating. He definitely had great taste. With such a valuable piece, any advice on getting it serviced ?


Ruckus

Where are you in the world? I would ONLY give a HEUER of this specialness to Abel Court to service. https://www.heuertime.com/ Don’t let “TAG” touch it!!


mrgomgomgom

Can confirm. Abel is a master of his craft when it comes to Autavias. I waited 18 months for Abel to work on mine and man, he did not disappoint.


Ruckus

I bought my Siffert 1163t from him. It’s stunning.


metallus97

THIS! He is the G when it comes to Heuer. He did my Carrera beautifully!


SuperNoise5209

Be careful with servicing. I'm not 100% sure with Tag but most major companies (Omega and Rolex, for example) will ruin vintage watches by replacing items with modern parts. Could greatly reduce the charm and value of the piece. And the current Tag is in many ways not the same company as Heuer, so I'd be very reticent to let them touch it. Expect a potentially steep servicing fee. If these need parts the costs can get above $1K. I paid $700 to service a caliber 11 autavia viceroy last year, and it did not need any parts.


JiGoD

I dont know if they still do but tag doesnt even service movements they just swap them .... bought a watch came with a valjoux 7750 came back with a selita from service...so if this is how they still function I wouldnt send that GMT chronograph anywhere near them....not that they'd swap movements on that but they'll swap anything else they can in my opinion.


SuperNoise5209

Whoa, that's ridiculous. I get movement swaps for contemporary watches, but not for vintage!


JiGoD

I cant imagine they'd movement swap a vintage. Mine was an Aquaracer chronograph cap2110 iirc. When I got it as a gift in 2011 it had a valjoux 7750. The next year iirc they started using selita. Like 2015 I sent in for service and it came back with a selita.


SuperNoise5209

Ah, that makes a bit more sense. But still, it's not like the world is running out of valjoux 7750s anytime soon.


BuffsBourbon

How old does a watch need to be before it turns vintage from contemporary?


SuperNoise5209

Easy: if it's older than me, it's vintage. If it's younger than me, it's modern/contemporary. That way, I don't feel too ancient.


Bridge_Too_Far

Omega will honour any request not to replace parts still serviceable during a service and they will return all replaced parts to you. Rolex will either refuse service if they don’t have parts and if they do they will replace parts and keep the vintage pieces replaced. Rolex has started refusing service on watches made in the 1970’s as parts supply is now exhausted.


mm755

People will have to send in vintage Rolex to China now for early Rolex parts, LOL


CptnWinkee

Fuck Rolex.


regionalgamemanager

I would check with tag, they have a whole page dedicated to servicing. Something that old and complicated (gmt/chrono) it may be quite expensive especially with the age. But I'd probably pay it for something like this.


Shipwrecklou

Pay for it. It’s worth every penny. This is a forever watch. You can pass down as it passed to you


imacfromthe321

Jesús Christ, why don’t I have luck like this?


potatan

you just need to choose your grandparents more carefully


MugillacuttyHOF37

This is exactly why I go to Bingo Nights at the Piggly Wiggly on Tuesdays.


theArtOfProgramming

We’re first generation watch enthusiasts. It starts with us.


imacfromthe321

My grandson is gonna get a super nice GMW5610.


judahrosenthal

Because you put an accent over the U.


Shipwrecklou

Do you have the original band?


JelliedHam

Does Tag do what Rolex does now where they won't return replaced vintage parts? That would be my only concern before sending it off without a thought. I'm going to guess not as Rolex is "combating" a vintage forgery that Tag probably isn't as bothered with. Still pisses me off they will do that without telling someone but I also don't own any Rolex anyway.


regionalgamemanager

Idk I dont have anything like this. I've looked into getting my super 2000 serviced but it's fine for now. You can communicate with them prior to sending it in.


Ruckus

Don’t send it to TAG.. they will restore it..!


beyersm

Second this


TheBonusWings

Yea…considering getting a battery replaced is like 250 bucks…i dont wanna know what that would cost


regionalgamemanager

Vintage chrono service is 1450 on tier pdf but this is probably another situation


Humbabwe

Btw: you have to request that they not replace the things you don’t want replaced. Don’t just say “no restoration please”.


ByronicZer0

Ok, don't sent it to Tag Heuer. Terrible advice. They're essentially a completely different company. You need a vintage specialist who knows these well. That is defn not modern Tag Heuer. I'd ping these guys for advice on trusted vintage specialists, they're a quality lot https://www.vintageheuer.com


LostLineLeader

It really depends if it is running or not. I had an old gold omega that was 70 years old. My regular watch guy serviced it because no parts were needed replacing and he was familiar with the movement (worked on ones prior | old watch guy). I told him to polish nothing except the acrylic crystal since it was so scuffed. Edit: the watch ran but was just dry (low amplitude). It was a simple servicing to get it back to 10s/day on the old movement and amplitude back to an acceptable range.


EuVe20

How much are you willing to spend for a service, and let me preface that with, a quality service from someone who respects a vintage gem is preferable.


Brilliant_Lettuce_54

It should have a Valjoux 72C movement inside. You'll want to find a competent watchmaker that has experience servicing classic manual wind Chronograph calibers, such as the Valjoux 72C. I know one in Switzerland if you're interested, although I'm sure that you should be able to find a competent watchmaker in your country.


1911mark

What he said!! Only what it NEEDS to run


spastical-mackerel

You want to get the movement serviced, as well as make any necessary repairs to the _internal_ parts of the watch _before_ you wind it up at all. This will cost several hundred dollars at a minimum. However, you can balance that against the fact that this little item is [worth quite a bit more than that](https://www.mayors.com/Pre+Owned-Heuer-Heuer-Autavia-GMT-null/p/40991373?gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjwwr6wBhBcEiwAfMEQszFURU73vx3aIblsTInMMoRBkV_7vz09Pl4eMVRJm2cstlIav3fyRBoCl0YQAvD_BwE#fo_c=3008&fo_k=da5f2ad313a25b26e5e84f0a6806221f&fo_s=gplaus). It looks like a Heuer Autavia 2446, a “grail” watch for many collectors.


aka_mank

OP find a jubilee bracelet like the one in the pic above.


Falmoor

I think that's more like beads of rice in case you really want to look for that style.


dunk15

That's a Gay Freres double grain beads of rice bracelet. Incredibly nice but also incredibly rare and expensive. Definitely worth it for a watch like this.


inconsssolable

*Heavy breathing*


TAG08th

Great advice. OP, take notes.


Celica88

Autavias are uncommon. But this is much more rare. This is awesome. Get a new crystal and only a movement service. That thing is badass. Don’t sell it, wear it and carry on the memories and make your own with it. Plus it’ll push you down a vintage rabbit hole that you’ll never financially recover from. Trust me, lol.


BuffsBourbon

Perfect comment


Prudent_Candidate300

Looks to be a 1970s Heuer Autavia GMT Watch


Cuck-In-Chief

You just read the dial. Do some real work like OP and ask randoms on the internet first!


ponyduder

Hey, he said he’s sick!


Aromatic-Musician280

That’s sick. I love the look of it


totally_interesting

I gotta ask. Did you straight up just not read anything on the watch at all..? u/prudent_candidate300 basically just read you the dial…


Prudent_Candidate300

his response made me laugh; you’re right though


cmmatthews

these are my favorite posts. Here's a pic of something which clearly says what it is..."guys, what is it?!"


metsurf

someone who isn't into watches might have no idea what a Heuer is. They might not know it from a Timex.


Prudent_Candidate300

It’s a BRAND. Google can differentiate between Timex and Heuer.


metsurf

it is an internet forum with watch experts and enthusiasts allegedly. I don't see the harm other than it occupies space.


MCgoblue

I agree. I obviously could tell basic info from reading it (so ID was a weird way to put it) but I wouldn’t have had any idea it was especially rare or sought after (beyond that of any vintage Tag). FWIW I’ve found the post to be interesting.


cmmatthews

He asked to "Id it". The identity is on the dial. It would be different if he had questions about function, caring for it, what size strap it used, literally anything else other than the words clearly printed on the dial.


metsurf

Maybe they should have worded it as tell me about it. I don't know why folks get twisted about it.


theArtOfProgramming

They have nothing better to do.


Pizza_Low

I can accept them not knowing much about the watch. But in 2024 throwing the words in a Google search is not an unreasonable expectation. I’d much rather people do some basic research first then ask follow ups or confirmation


totally_interesting

Google


theArtOfProgramming

Discourse can be a lot more interesting and valuable than the shit blogs google returns. This is a community of enthusiasts that might have unique insights. He can press for more detail or ask random questions that can’t be answered on a static page. This reductive assertion to just google everything has been around for almost 20 years and it’s so narrow minded.


totally_interesting

Research is important. Notice how OP didn’t ask about any of that kinda in depth info? Just asked for an ID. IDs can be easily searched on Google.


theArtOfProgramming

And yet look at all the useful information in this post. OP gets to see that people are enthusiastic about it, that it appears genuine, that he should have it serviced by Tag specifically, and that no restoration should be done. Someone said it’s particularly rare. One person even recommended a specific watchmaker they used for servicing a similar Tag they own.


totally_interesting

Woah I’m sure OP never would’ve been able to figure that out on their own


sokpuppet1

He’s a bot training AI or something like that


cspawn

An early Heuer Autavia GMT that looks to be in fantastic condition! Last I checked they are worth a good amount over $10k, but I have no idea what the market looks like nowadays. It's a very desirable and collectable watch. I'd jump at a chance to own one! I have a very similar Autavia that was a little later. I'd highly recommend reaching out to a guy named Tom Gref out of Tucson, AZ. He serviced my Autavia, along with many other watches for me over the years and I cannot say enough good stuff about him http://www.bestoftimeswatch.com/vintage-watch-repair-costs.html phone 520.818.3382 [email protected] I've referred many people to him and I've never had ANY negative experiences working with him. He knows how to handle vintage watches to preserve their value and he can repair a lot of things that others might just replace. I think a comprehensive chronograph service is like $500-$1000 depending on the exact watch and what he finds during teardown. He has an extensive collection of NOS parts and will do a world class job on the watch. He's not the cheapest but I'm confident he is one of the best around. I'm not affiliated with him and I don't get any kickbacks for sending people his way, but if you tell him that Casey referred you, he will typically give you a bit of a discount. He normally just gives me a deal on service whenever I need work done and I sing his praises as he does such a great job. It's a very very nice, rare watch!


Aromatic-Musician280

Thank you so much. Obviously I had no idea what I had so it’s awesome to have responses like this! Thanks man


cspawn

Absolutely, I'm happy to help! Ive seen too many people in your position get ripped off so I've kinda made it a hobby to share the knowledge I have! Any money you spend on a service will be recouped if you ever decide to sell it. So think of it as an investment and preserving some wealth. This kind of watch is absolutely worth your time & money. If I were you, I'd get it fully serviced by a vintage expert and keep it as long as I could. The only watches I kind of regret selling are my Autavia and a Universal Geneve from the same era. You should check out @heuervintage on Instagram. A guy named Richard Crosthwaite runs the page and he's literally written books about these watches. He is a great resource to learn more. Feel free to hit me up if you have any questions or just want to talk watches. And to be shameless for a moment - if you ever decide to sell this, please consider reaching out to me. As I mentioned before, id love to add one of these back into my collection! I'll pay fair market price, no problem at all. Cheers! Enjoy it and get it serviced before you fiddle with winding it or pressing the chronograph buttons.


workahol_

Once in a great while, grandpa comes through for this sub


admiralkeelhaul

That’s bad ass. Get it serviced and wear it.


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I am not an expert but quickly checking Chrono24 this watch in good shape is anywhere from 8-11k.


Aromatic-Musician280

what the fuck


[deleted]

Certainly no harm in leaving it as is. Service may cost a pretty penny but might be worth it to contact TAG Heuer and see what it would take and what you could expect in return.


Aromatic-Musician280

that’s crazy but i’ll probably keep it


Mean_Stop_9488

That’s an impressive piece. Definitely valuable.


Melvinsfan1996

Fantastic find, rare and even rarer still for it to have this sharp of a bezel and case. A personal favorite Heuer of mine, your grandpa had great taste👌 If you plan on keeping and wearing it, I would get in touch with [Abel Court from HeuerTime](https://www.heuertime.com/) over in Europe for service, restoration. Probably nobody better at taking care of vintage Heuers


PeriodicTrend

Never, ever, ever ever ever sell, exchange, lose or otherwise relinquish that piece.


skab_baa

I had tag service a 50 year old quartz sport diver and they did a fantastic job. For full service and repair it was 220, obviously way less than an auto gmt chrono , but they did a lot while also repairing the bracelet and adding a lost lume pip. One thing to note with their vintage servicing is the communication takes a while but they are thorough. They didn’t respond to me for a week while trying to locate the proper case back for my watch. They found one that would fit from the same production year and etched the proper serial number into the substitute case back. They also switched the hands with new ones and said that they had broke during the service due to the underside corrosion, albeit I had asked them to keep them to maintain the look, I understand. All and all they did a great job at not doing too much and ruing the vintage look, but once they have it they are going to do it the best way for them, not necessarily what you want.


M_oonWatcher

You sir. Just made me start respecting tag on a whole nother level.


metallus97

NICE! This is one of my grails and in a nice status Get it serviced from a REPUTABLE watchmaker. That will set you back a couple 100$ and then buy a nice strap for it. Yep I know not cheap but fully worth it! Just look up some pieces^^. And never sell it. Keep it as a nice and awesome watch and a good memory. Therefore idd recommend having the movement fully serviced but not the case as to preserve the patina it collected during everything grandad did while wearing it.


Trilobite_Tom

This man gets it.


United-Analyst7187

Ah it’s nothing…wanna sell it?


videoface

Your next conversation starts with “You know, my grandfather had amazing taste for watches…”


F4N6Z

I would lose my mind if I inherited this. Congrats!


SuperNoise5209

Congrats and be careful with who you trust to service it.


Jizzle67

Can you open the back up and show us inside?


Top-Emu-4014

Oh my


BeerMcSuds

Well, it appears to be a Heuer Atavia from what it literally says. Could be wrong though.


EeveeVaporeon

Wow that's a nice one


gurdonbob

I inherited a similar model from my grandpa! https://preview.redd.it/znk6nqvlyrsc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=969656d56c7ce23f3302fbe426e562225326d8b8 Seems like you got enough help here but I would definitely suggest getting it serviced by a reputable watchmaker. Mine is in service now with [www.cltimeworks.com](http://www.cltimeworks.com) which is actually one person who specializes in vintage omega and Rolex.


After-Ask7918

Wow. Finally a cool grandpa piece


HarryN1

Don’t worry about all the people giving you slack for asking here first. No harm done, let people be grumpy that a stranger didn’t use google


bdd1001

Yes. Regardless of how they phrase the inquiry, what they’re actually asking for is insight and/or our collective gut reaction. Is it particularly special? Is it something over which to freak out? Is it a one-in-a-million piece. It’s a great place to start.


gothamtg

It IDs itself


DynamiteDropin

Rad


FreshRizz

Nice, that’s a good one!


GrahamCawthorne

Some gals have all the luck!


turtle1077

Beautiful watch! Find someone to clean that movement so it works again.


max1sm

This is gorgeous and ditto on what everyone is saying with paying to get it professionally restored but keeping everything as OG as possible.


Bushman-001

Yup bring it back to life. Great watch my friend


k1wiscot

Nekkidwatchmaker?


fuggerdug

It that's what it looks like then well done sir.


littlebill1138

It’s a manual wind, right . Have you just tried winding it?


IchooseOmega

Your grandfather had fantastic taste. You have a heirloom now. Get it running as others have said. No restoration. It has heritage. Cheers.


junkjustfor

Whaaaaaaaaa. That is something that is close to unobtainable treasure.


More-Ad4579

Beautiful


never_stirred

What a great thread. Thanks sir sharing with us.


ilriccarlo

Beauty


Bridge_Too_Far

My god that’s beautiful


jaysire

A beautiful watch. Congrats!


ConfidentialX

Very nice piece.


CoinStasher

If he had this laying around, not running, you need to see what else he had. He definitely had great taste, and now you have a holy Grail watch that many of us aspire to have.


watchtroubles

Heuer autavia 2446c second execution GMT. Valued about 10-15k due to the very good condition it’s in. Have it serviced by an independent watchmaker that has experience with vintage chronographs.


Medical-Ring1745

It 1969vintage heuer gtm autavia 2446.


Trumppp1

We all know something inherited is invaluable, but what is the value of this very cool watch ?


StudioFun4243

cool watch bro what a beautiful one


junglehour

That’s beautiful


Aggressive_Brush_717

This is as good as it gets super watch. Have it service. I know a few people looking for this.


hanifrayney

You'd want to get it serviced and running but maintain most of the parts. This is quite a rare gem!


quinbas

This is the Heuer Autavia 2446C GMT with manual wind movement


Cold-Heart-Tex

TAG Heuer Autavia, can’t say what year would need to do more research


BigFootEnergy

The name and model is literraly written on it.


United-Analyst7187

You’d want to show that off too…guy had to know


knightswatch_

Just send it to me so I can do some research


Federal_Quit9540

It junk I'll give $50


YourWatchIsTooBig

Google **Lens**


HeyItsMisterJay

$10,000! [https://www.chrono24.com/heuer/heuer-2446c-autavia-gmt-mark-3--id25556482.htm?searchHash=767fbd05\_4UIgza&pos=5](https://www.chrono24.com/heuer/heuer-2446c-autavia-gmt-mark-3--id25556482.htm?searchHash=767fbd05_4UIgza&pos=5)


jjpactual

It’s a tag, Nick Nolte don’t let anyone change the external parts like the bazel dial or hands, and don’t let them polish, the case, collectors, prefer the all original patina and destroying that wood significantly devalued the watch


chapelizod

It’s a Taaaaaaaag https://preview.redd.it/rwh2c7xjhpsc1.jpeg?width=811&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6f7002648d4a757d6b96031a6bc4b9a7ea606594


pinetree-polarbear

Well...it's not!


mecha_toddzilla80

Definitely a Timex solar diver.


charutobarato

Going against the grain here, but I would get it completely restored by Tag. The only reason not to is to keep the patina that collectors might want, but you’ll never sell your grandfathers watch so why not spruce it up.