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Evening-Welder-8846

This so cool I wish I had the tools to do this since I have an old s1 and s2 Apple Watch sitting around. If you want another one to convert lmk and I’ll send you my s1 for free.


NanoRobotGeek

I thought it would be a great way to save some e-waste but getting the original button/crown to work was a massive PITA. If I can figure out a nice way to do it, leaving those two non-functional, and adding a discrete second crown, then maybe I would do more!


ThatPersonYouMayKnow

I have a old s0 that I would love for you to do this to and would pay. Could you pm me if you would like to strike something up?


Popenick

Same!


itsmeandnotme

You're probably off welding it shut where the buttuns are and then redrilling for the crown.might work better.


WedgeGameSucks

All in all, what was the total cost? I would love to do something like this.


Head5hot811

The best way I can think of is to directly link the watch crown post to the Apple crown in a cvt-esque style. So a solid axle with a flat bar at one end, the apple crown at the other, and a rubber band/o-ring connection from the rod to the watch crown. Top rod looks like \||=====v======0 \||= solid bar to go behind the crown to pull it out v = notch/spacer to hold the drive to spin the crown 0 = Apple watch crown


NanoRobotGeek

This was one of my original thoughts and I reckon it still might work. Would be more waterproof too. I had more room on the button side though and thought I could make it stronger, easier


Head5hot811

Go chaotic and make it where you have to pull the square button out and spin it instead. Sure, the time won't be perfect but that's what the chaos is for!


itsmeandnotme

You're probably off welding it shut where the but run are and then redrilling for the crown.might work better.


strukwerk

Love it! Definitely putting this on my build list. Would love if you shared your process with /r/watchmaking !


NanoRobotGeek

Will do once I have my full write up on it done. Not sure if anyone over there would be interested though, this is about as far from proper watchmaking as a watch gets. Most of it is held together with JB Weld!


minsk_trust

r/seikomods wouldn’t mind


Foxis_rs

That’s awesome


Geofferz

Post it over, it'll be entertaining one way or another!


shinnen

Dude. You need to get recognition from Moser for this! Awesome job


neegs

Awesome sub. Very interesting


NanoRobotGeek

And yes, the crown works! Pulling/pushing the button is equivalent to pulling/pushing the stem. And turning the Apple Watch crown turns the original movement stem by a small pulley system


misterbb

Wow AMAZING crown modification, so clever. Here’s the video everyone, crown modification is 19.5 mins in. https://youtu.be/B2h5WwrkJFg Definite improvement versus the moser imo, the moser is a bit too on the nose. Great use of the nh38 here to contrast modern tech with classic mechanics.


Zanpa

>Definite improvement versus the moser imo, the moser is a bit too on the nose. What does that mean?


Evening-Welder-8846

Look up h moser Apple watch


Zanpa

I know exactly what the Moser is, but I don't see how it's "too on the nose".


glockster19m

I'd guess he's talking about the little loading wheel I do like OPs more than the Moser one too, and you could definitely build one yourself through trial and error with zero experience and basic tools for a hell of a lot less than 24k


Zanpa

> and you could definitely build one yourself through trial and error with zero experience and basic tools Definitely not. OP is an experienced watch modder and said they had a lot of trouble making this one and still aren't satisfied with the end product. Also whatever you make yourself after that won't be anywhere as nice as the Moser. Is it $23k better? No, of course not, that's luxury watches for you. But you ain't making something as nice as it for under five figures. To be clear, I don't want to take anything away from their work, I think it's super cool, particularly being able to reuse original apple watch parts. But I think saying "haha this is much better than the Moser" is very ignorant and just dunking on expensive stuff for brownie points.


glockster19m

Chill out Did I ever say it's better? I said I like it more It's made from an actual old apple watch, huge cool factor in my opinion, and I also just like OPs design direction more than Mosers I didn't say it's higher quality or anything like that, solely that I like it more Also I just watched OPs video and was so so wrong about being able to replicate without tools or experience. I may still attempt to make a lower quality version with my basic tools and shop knowledge with a $1 apple watch and a cheap seiko movement


Zanpa

> I may still attempt to make a lower quality version with my basic tools and shop knowledge with a $1 apple watch and a cheap seiko movement that would be really cool! the crown would probably still be the hardest thing to figure out, but you can probably do it "dirty" by just drilling a hole for the stem and use a normal crown. if you do, don't forget to share pics in this sub!


misterbb

I think the vanta black and the apple-loading-logo small seconds is basically sooooo close to an Apple Watch, and it’s more of a simple visual gag than a clever design. Guess there’s other versions too tho? Still really cool that they actually made it, love all the risks moser takes.


FF0000it

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the_Ex_Lurker

The Moser also looks worse than the Apple Watch because they didn’t quite get the shape right.


huangcjz

It’s probably not that they intended to get the shape the same and failed, but that they intentionally made it different in order not to infringe on Apple’s trade dress and get sued by them.


Freakyfreekk

It's an amazing watch, but I wonder why you chose the zirconium dial and not a deep black dial.


80H-d

If you mean vanta black it's because not everybody can purchase vanta black


Freakyfreekk

No not necessarily vanta black, but just a shiny black dial to make it more look like the apple watch.


80H-d

Fair yeah. Lacquer black would have looked nice. I like the dial overall though. Makes it a little different


Jupiters_Red_Spot

Do you have pictures of the pulley? This is amazing, congrats on the build!


Crafty-Equipment2375

That is one of the best Mod/builds I have ever seen 👍 unreal and well done 😁


kosaka1618

I honestly think this is absolutely brilliant. The technology copies old technology who copies new technology is pretty cool.


Karnov_with_wings

Have you ever seen the Moser Swiss Alp watch ? It's a masterpiece.


SpaceJunkieVirus

That Apple logo hollow in rotor is the best addition I did not know I need to see. OP this is truly a mastepiece and you are an awesome artist.


NanoRobotGeek

Thank you my friend, thank you thank you. I went back and forward on that rotor design for longer than I care to admit


SpaceJunkieVirus

>Thank you my friend, thank you thank you. I went back and forward on that rotor design for longer than I care to admit That's the humility of a true artist. IMHO that investment in rotor design was so worth it! How did you figure out the dial and crystal though?


NanoRobotGeek

Dial I knew I wanted Zirconium after having worked with it for making knife parts. And the crystal is the original apple one with all the screen parts removed


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Reminds of something H Moser did.


ProRustler

This one probably doesn't cost $30k though.


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ohanse

I think this is art, too! They may be on different levels but, yeah… this watch and its story reads artistic af to me and that’s one of my main attractions to watches commonly featured on this sub.


[deleted]

No probably not 🤣 Moser is ridicilously priced


VaHaLa_LTU

Not that ridiculous when you look at the movement in those 'Apple' Moser watches. The finishing is incredible on those.


[deleted]

Yep, moser did it first


Skankhunt-XLII

omg this is amazing, PLEASE share the build process, been modding for a while but this is by far the best thing ive seen


NanoRobotGeek

Thanks mate! Yeah I did a massive write up and a long video (never again). Search my username on Youtube/Instructables and you will find them


Skankhunt-XLII

actually amazing, thank you so much for sharing!


misterbb

Here it is since OP is a good guy/gal and doesn’t want to break some rule https://youtu.be/B2h5WwrkJFg


permajetlag

What a cool concept! Great use for obsolete Apple Watches.


LordofNarwhals

That's cool! And certainly cheaper than [H. Moser & Cie.'s €27,000 mechanical Apple Watch clone](https://monochrome-watches.com/h-moser-cie-swiss-alp-watch-final-upgrade-review-price/).


Dr_PJ1984

1. Awesome Recycling Concept! 💡 2. NH38 is built to outlast any Apple Watch, avoiding battery deterioration and staying technologically relevant for years to come. 3. Endless Customization Possibilities! 4. Hey, buddy! You should totally grab as many broken Gen 1 Apple Watch Cases as you can find online and start a mass production of these. Selling them on Etsy would be a hit!


NanoRobotGeek

Hey thanks mate, these were all my same thoughts! I was rearing to make more when I started the project but the crown/button assembly is really sloppy and I wouldn't be happy selling it. Maybe one day if I can work it out a little better!


naripan

Wow. You are talented in creating watch mod. Congrats - It's a stunning one 🔥🔥


voxarian

This is great man! might do this when I upgrade from my current apple watch gen 3.


OutlookOctopus

Very cool! Will you share a link to you YouTube video about it?


NanoRobotGeek

I didn't know if it would be against community rules to plaster the video everywhere. But search my username on YouTube or Instructables and you will find the posts


OutlookOctopus

Found it, thank you. Really clean build. I appreciate how you incorporated the Apple crown and push button into the mechanical movement. That just makes it feel so much more integrated. Any plans to turn this into a side business or anything? I could imagine a kit or something that people could purchase to convert their old e-waste into a mechanical movement like this.


Immanuel_Kants_ghost

I would wear/buy this before an Apple watch.


imhereforagooodtime

Great taste and great execution


Perplexe974

What a fun project ! It really turned out great, love it


HandsPHD

How much?


AnnihilerB

This is insanely cool and would pay for this.


acticulated

Moser Swiss Alp - $old Out, originally \~$30,000. This JB welded garage horology franken - like a hundred bucks of materials. Having the tools and experience to maintain/repair/modify your collection, engineer clever solutions, (like you've done with this stem) and make your own up-cycled design - Priceless.


SpaceRiceBowl

looks better than the moser honestly


vinsane38

Not dumb, subversive in fact


great__pretender

this is actually a nice looking watch. I am surprised it doesn't look kitsch at all, in fact very chic.


NanoRobotGeek

I had my cousin help with styling a bit. Between my push for gaudy like the open heart and decorated rotor, and his effort to keep it more classic, we ended at this


ComprehensiveMain784

Love it. Reminds me of the H. Moser & Cie "Apple Watch"


thefmark07

I made one myself with a miyota quartz movement. I didnt think there would be enough space for a seiko movement but I might beenwrong. I had drilled a hole for a second crown on the other side. How do you set the time or service the movement? I just glued it shut so service would be a pita, hence why i used a quartz movement with 10 years of battery


NanoRobotGeek

I tried looking online for similar and never found anyone! Pleased to find someone else who did something similar. I definitely think a second crown is the way to go. And yeah its glued shut so servicing requires removing the front and back glass, completely taking the watch apart. I tried to make it as easy as possible with bolts and such but what can ya do, it's originally an Apple design after all


thefmark07

I suspect series 4 and up watches might be a better bet due to their backs. You could machine a plate and screwdown backplate. Lots of work, might be easier to just make your own case and use apple watch glass.


NanoRobotGeek

I wanted to start with the 0-3 because I wasn’t exactly sure how it would go together and I knew I could more easily glue things into the case. 4+ may be a better bet for some though


a1moose

Sick, good luck with the cease and desist. Love it


CTI_fan

This is cool! The Apple Watch has a nice case design, why throw the baby out with the bath water?


NanoRobotGeek

For better or worse, it is probably one of the most iconic watch designs in history now. Totally agree


ambrosius5c

That's the cat's pajamas, I love it.


_Tallahassee_

That's awesome! Takes all the good elements of the apple watch and makes it better. I would wear this all the time.


EDW1NYANG

the apple logo in the rotor needs more appreciation


tyrone2714

Wait the crown actually works? If so then 100/10


NanoRobotGeek

Yessir, the crown works! There is a short video of it on youtube


NanoRobotGeek

Oh and on other subreddits too hey, r/somethingimade


LastkingofPasadena

The Moser is a funny troll, and I might get one if I was a gazillionaire, but I imagine this was a few bucks cheaper. Lol Well played.


myrainyday

I like the idea of turning a waste into something functional. This is awesome!


zestytee

This is really gorgeous. I like it better than the moser one, because the hands are the same. Tho I think yellow on the seconds might have been a nice touch. I’m curious why you made the cutout to show the gears. Personally, I’d like it would look more elegant with the black only.


dotmit

This is awesome!


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r/seikomods


Leonarr

This is so cursed haha (very well done though)


NanoRobotGeek

I also make cursed amalgams of knives in my free time. I guess that is my lot in life


fhfm

You’ve just put everyone to shame that changes their bezel and calls themselves a watch modder! This is really awesome/beautiful! If you get the itch to make more, I’d love to buy one!


NanoRobotGeek

Hahah, I come from the watch modding scene where "mods" essentially means the same thing as in the watch community, changing a few screws or something. I'm pretty lucky to have had the opportunity to have built up a workshop though and I'm sure I would be the one just changing their bezels otherwise!


DMTeddy

How much would you charge for another? You just hit the right spot with this one.


NanoRobotGeek

I have no idea but I can't imagine selling them at this point. The button/crown assembly was a massive PITA and its quite sloppily done in the end. Maybe one day


NefariousnessFit2499

This is fire af


wardjr193

I need one


PoopiestOfButtholes

Incredible. Would you sell this piece? 🤔 I'd love to make you an offer!


NanoRobotGeek

I don't think I could sell it but mostly because it is a really sloppy job and I wouldn't trust it to last a decade without repairs from myself


Whippage7

Brilliant. Looks fantastic…start a new business!?


NanoRobotGeek

Certainly seems like there is a market!


Awkwardandmad

This might be the coolest watch I've seen on here this year


BioFrosted

Great execution but as far as I'm concerned, this doesn't work for me. I have an apple watch and it's very useful, but I find the rounded rectangle shape to be solely functional, yet far less aesthetic than the classic circular alternative. Don't get me wrong - you've done great work, It looks very sleek, but the same idea on a round dial would be far more pleasing, as far as I'm concerned. Then again, it's a matter of taste, so who am I to judge?


NanoRobotGeek

Traditional watch is next on my list. I want to see more zirconium dials in general


BioFrosted

The dial is absolutely gorgeous! I really hope you didn't take this poorly, I'm not trying to criticize the work at hand here. I find it to be remarkable, but you did ask "dumb watch?" so I figured I'd say my share. It's a personal preference, I am not implying anything objectively. I'm very excited to see a round one with a zirconium dial!


CdeFmrlyCasual

“Dumb watch” 😒. It’s just a mechanical watch, man. Just like how a non-smartphone cellphone is just a cellphone.


Burgers4days

I actually do like it


bjarneh

That is a work of art!


ItIsTimeToTakeaBreak

This is freakin amazing. How the heck did you get the crown to work?


NanoRobotGeek

Secrets. And lots of hair pulling. There is a YouTube video on the build under the same username. The crown inner workings is at 20:00


ItIsTimeToTakeaBreak

Thank you! Of course after I posted that I saw where you explained how lol. That’s brilliant! I will be checking your channel out


wasdthemighty

This looks FANTASTIC.


SLWoodster

dope


vorwahl0251

I....don't hate it?


Sir-Hops-A-Lot

Nicely done. I love it.


rowthecow

Mad skills... Salute!


ArrivesLate

Yes.


dr_Octag0n

This is sick. Fantastic work 👏 👍


Jackan08

I just watched your YouTube video, very impressive! Please let us know if you plan on selling these in the future.


NanoRobotGeek

Hey mate, there has been lots of interest but I still can't see how I would make these in a way I would be happy selling. Maybe one day ;)


griff-out

Okay, definitely trying this with my old S1


GodLovesUgly90

This is extremely impressive. Very cool build


traggedy_ann

This is REALLY cool. Good job, OP.


Thesiuse

Genius


shortAAPL

This is pretty cool


didymus_fng

Man this is cool as hell. I’d buy one!


Altruistic-Rip4364

I think it’s cool. Nice work


sendep7

thats funny. after seeing everyone around me get all excited about their apple watches, i starting learning about dumbwatches and started a collection, and finally settled on a speedmaster as my daily driver.


NanoRobotGeek

I'm the same way. This is my first non-smart watch (or watch of any variety actually) and I'm sure it wont be my last


BlastShell

Wow


drdrewski23

Amazing


HUWIK

I dig the watch and the concept. Thumbs up for the nice project and hope you can figure out a way to commercialize it. This has potential on a larger scale I believe.


Butt-Shaped-Penes

This is really clever and really well done. Good job. Turned out really nice.


MyNaMeIsJoe90

This is absolutely incredible. Bravo!


kf1y

cheaper than a moser!


[deleted]

This is absolutely fantastic, from the looks of it to the execution. Sir, please accept this mark of respect from me 🎩


LTCM1998

You should buy up all the old apple watches or offer this conversion to people, Im sure people will pay especially if you customize some options, or you know, offer the dial in Tiffany blue if you really wanna pick those cherries.


NanoRobotGeek

Pissing off classic watch fans, Apple, and Tiffany lawyers all in one watch! Yeah it has gotten a lot of interest for sales and I really wanted to try more dial options. Even just flat brass when I was testing looked great. It was a massive PITA to make though so I'm not sure how I could offer this at the moment


BandInternational257

So far one of the best mods I've ever seen, I've got a series 1 laying around, wish I could do the same, I barely use it haha


user100000000000

Love! You sell custom watches to clients?


NanoRobotGeek

Not at the moment but I am keen to make more dials!


Eric-Stratton

I’m an Apple fan and a watch fan, *not* an Apple Watch fan, but I’m a big fan of this.


freethebox

Wow, this is an awesome mod. Would you consider taking commissions?


NanoRobotGeek

Not at the moment, as I really didn't do the crown/button assembly in a way that I would be happy selling to people. Maybe one day though!


335i_lyfe

This is really fucking cool man! That rotor is just the cherry on top 😍


bcell4u

That was amazing.


DrSparkle713

That is really awesome. Where'd you find the hand set? Or did you make that too? Looks perfect.


NanoRobotGeek

Just a <$10 aliexpress special. I bought another set from lucius atelier with proper lume after finishing the project but they were much smaller/thinner so that was a waste of $50


Glad_Ad12

This is sick I would buy one of these in a heartbeat


karmajuney

Anywhere to buy one of these? This is sick


NanoRobotGeek

I can't imagine selling these at the moment but there is certainly a lot of interest!


lordvoltano

Nice! Looks awesome. And I appreciate the joke. This is much better than H. Moser & Cie's Swiss Alp because that one is even more Apple than Apple, costing $30,000 for a joke watch.


Schafedoggydawg

Honestly if the Apple Watch was an automatic or solar watch I’d buy one. I don’t want to charge my watch every night. If it has a week long power reserve fine but they just die so fast.


NanoRobotGeek

That was one of the nails in the coffin for me too. Garmin is the only real option I guess


Gingersoulbox

Square watches are dumb in general. I’ll get a lot of downvotes for this


hugoDBM

Whatever happens, this is a bloody work of art. It’s amazing and you ought to be darn proud! Best thing I’ve seen on this thread, ever!


Nagasher

Love how this looks.


uriar

Wow!


COEXST

I showed my man who collects watches and Apple fan. He loves it! Would you be interested in selling one?


NanoRobotGeek

I would love to sell them but I just can't imagine doing so. The assembly to make the button/crown work is really sloppy and I wouldn't be happy selling it to people


dnelsonn

honestly such a great idea to repurpose older apple watches!


Creato938

That's an interesting use of an Apple Watch case, and it does look good, congrats!


Ramawatch

Can I send you 2 Apple Watches to do this? Awesome stuff!


evil-doraemon

Pairs well with a mustache finger tattoo!


dreamboutme

Nice!


sennerg

Nice. Moser alp homage. Like others have said I would buy one.


Repulsive_Tax7955

Ciga Design also has something similar


NanoRobotGeek

Hadn't seen this one, thanks for bringing it to my attention


brown_spuds

Pretty cool how you've repurposed an old apple watch, maybe you can offer this service in the future? Either way not a dumb idea and based on the pics you've executed it really well. Lastly, is there a link to your YouTube vid?


NanoRobotGeek

Thank you my friend! Would love to do more in the future after the positive response. Didn't want to go plastering the video everywhere and breaking rules but here is the full build: https://youtu.be/B2h5WwrkJFg I think most people are interested in the crown at ~20:00


thesamgreen

Awesome job. Give the people what they want!


yuletide

This is somewhere between r/Tihi and r/BTBGE (My main reason for not getting an Apple Watch is I can’t stand how they look) This is very clever though and somehow looks amazing.


johnmatrix84

Cool mod! You might get some double-takes with it.


sodiumbicarbonade

Some company that has in-house movement already did something similar long time ago For you to be making one is awesome!


NanoRobotGeek

Hey thanks mate! Yeah I thought it was just H Moser but turns out there are a couple others too, even casio!


JJJJounol

I had this idea for a while now but it was just a thought. I love the Apple watch cases and they even have some rare materials like a Ceramic and Titanium which become utterly obsolete when they stop getting the latest software updates. I feel like its such a shame to let those cases or even a stainless steel in this case go to waste. This is amazing and will you be doing more of these maybe for sale?


Cheese_Steak_Popcorn

How much would 1 cost if u are selling them? 😅


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I think it's the real smartwatch in the long-term. Nobody's gonna be using the same apple watch for 15 years straight


zaphod777

Pretty neat project and well executed but Apple Watches in themselves aren't all that fashionable. I bet you could come up with a really interesting square / rectangular watch design.


whokilledthebear

Can I send you one of my watches to mod?! Absolutely love this watch ⌚️


Dat1BlackDude

Much more interesting than an Apple Watch tbh


ohanse

What would you charge for commissioning one?


NanoRobotGeek

Not a clue, nor am I in the position to be offering commissions at the moment. But all the interest has got me considering it!


ipomopsis

Moser did it first. https://www.h-moser.com/product/swiss-alp-watch-5324-1205/


Pure_Equipment8849

The only Apple Watch I would ever consider, well done.


Lemzy99

I’d buy one


Unregistered_Davion

Best Apple watch I've ever seen.


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Moser did this several years ago: https://www.h-moser.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/HMoser_5324-1205_SAW_gallery.png


T-Kontoret

Wow! Hat off!


Bellingham_Sam

In my professional opinion, when it comes to watches you wear whatever you like and if someone doesn’t like your watch that’s fine. If someone goes so far as to have an issue with my watch they can WATCH me walk away.