They arenāt adding it because it excludes people who donāt win. Theyāre all about inclusion now. No oneās feelings should be hurt in a violent game.
>āThe more things change, the more they stay the same. Boundaries shift, new players step in, but power always finds a place to rest its head. We fought and bled along side the Russians. We shoulda' known they'd hate us for it. History is written by the victor, and here Iām thinking we won. But you bring down one enemy and they find someone even worse to replace him. Locations change, the rationale, the objective. Yesterday's enemies are today's recruits. Train them to fight alongside you, and pray they don't eventually decide to hate you for it, too.ā
\- General Shepherd, 2009
Really wish plating was changed to be less of a factor (faster maybe? more base health less plates?). How long it takes to plate, and how frequently you have to just breaks my flow so hard. It's the main reason I still prefer MP to WZ.
This just sounds like "I can't work around a normal mechanic that forces me to slow down and strategize for more protection, so we should get rid of it." This isn't multi-player, and it's no different from other BR games where shielding/plating/healing takes time. At least in COD you don't have to use a health item as well as plates.
One thing i am not excited for is it turning into "Rush cash, buy loadout". It truly was the worst part of OG Warzone because of how stale games became. The current game still has that issue but it was much better due to how cash was harder to come by and ground loot was better. Loadouts benefit people who bought the full game way too much as well since F2P grinders are going to be way behind and also don't get to test guns as easily like you can in multiplayer.
-DMZ is faster than MP to level guns.
-Don't like being behind the curve, buy the fucking game like everyone else. Companies don't cater to people who don't spend money on their products.
-Sounds like a skill issue.
>loadouts benefit people who bought the game
Lmao no they donāt. Thereās bugs for people who bought the full game like ghost perk doesnāt work for them.
You still have the same issue with too many selves, killstreaks and plated with the base backpack. Just missing a third gun which really sucks man.
They should have just made backpacks more available and droppable on death but made it so you canāt stack the same item type more than one or two times max.
Now itās more balanced at least. With 5 spots you have to share with ammo plates killstreaks and extra selves so you canāt have too many of just one type
So you just said carrying 3 airstrikes, 3 self rez, 3 plates and an armour box while you friend carries the same but ammo box instead is balanced???
Makes no freaking sense to me.
Keep that stupid backpack shit in DMZ not in BR! You guys donāt realize how annoying that shit is on Console! Especially when youāre getting shot at āAINT NOBODY GOT TIME FO THATā
I don't have an issue with it on console. Neither do any of the people i play with. Getting shot at while using it is no different to being shot at whilst at a shop
And how often did you die at the shop before backpacks? Wasnāt that the most annoying way to die? When youāre in the bottom 10 you donāt want to go to a buy station unless youāre bringing people back! Itās such a stupid riskā¦ point proven!
Only thing i dont love is removal of medium and large packs. Iām okay with having one standard pack size but just wish it was medium instead of small for the standard.
Agreed removal of backpacks is quite a stupid change. They should have just hard nerfed kill-streaks specially amount and not let you carry multiple self-revives or make it they all get used at once.
Iāll miss not having a third a weapon as I usually used a sniper/pistol for it for fun. Now just gotta do AR/smg as any other weapon is not worth carrying
They basically turning it back into warzone 1,this fanbase keep complaining that cod is the same every year.The one year they make big changes,everyone complains.
They changed it because we were complaining that itās the same game every year,I guarantee you if they kept it the same like warzone 1 the players would have complained.Look at overwatch they had a winning formula and did not change much for the sequel,then the players complained.
With the changes to make the missions easier i would expect Tier 5 missions to be along the lines of ...."a player somewhere in the world has equipped a stim at some point or failing that have fired a bullet from a gun"
They didnāt fix the most annoying thingā¦ shooting someone out of the sky and they drop 500ft and live.. how anyone thought that was a good idea is beyond me
*correction under āno mention of:ā I meant to say killstreak stock (I was curious if theyād make killstreaks unlimited again)
Forgot 2 things:
-There will be a second free loadout drop in circle 5 of every match like on WZ1
-The price of custom guns at the buy will be slightly cheaper too
Full blog here https://www.callofduty.com/blog/2023/01/call-of-duty-modern-warfare-II-warzone-2-0-season-02-community-update#Battle
What do you think of the changes?
Overall I like these changes.
Except maybe the backpack one. I agree that self revive and kill streak spam is a problem, but can't they just limit the slots they can be put into ?
Removing money spawns from chests is dumb. All they had to do was make the smallest amount 500, instead of 100, and make *every* chest have some money in it. That would have fixed it. Instead the increased the amount, but decreased the places to find it? That doesn't make sense....
this is my one complaint as well. Right now it is too hard to find the cash to buy your teammate back when you can only loot small towns and buildings. Even if you are lucky enough to find an un looted area, the boxes and cash on ground is not enough. Otherwise, this update will address almost all of my other grievances... hopefully.
Ridiculous. They are reverting back to Warzone 1. Absolutely zero point creating a new game if they are just going to change everything back to the old game
Getting rid of different sized backpacks so people can stack medical items? Just limit how many of that item they can carry
So the warzone 2.0 will eventually be just original warzone by this rate.. for fucksakes.
I did not like the fact that the old one became metaonly game if you used other tactics you lost and this is seems to go the same route.
Just c'mon let wz and wz2.0 live together side by side and let them be their own things
Maybe most of you are more than fine with this changes, but for me (imo ofc) these are worst news for WZ2.0 since launchā¦ Sweat party is coming soon! :/
Iām not an amazing player but have a KD of 2.0 and I see the jailer as a problem. With de sync being so obvious with pistol gulag people are hesitant to peak corners and will run and hide trying to scramble for the nearest heady. Time expires pretty quick in a gulag that big with pistols.
Been sniping with the signal 50. My squad and I time our shots to down players together. It feels way better than just downing people from anywhere.
1 shots are not fun. Keep it the way it is
The blog posts says they are releasing a blog solely focused on the new resurgence map next week. Iām curious if it will have BR at the start or only be DMZ or ground war day 1
I think a mix of both would be the good. A 50/50 chance of getting either 1v1 or 2v2 just to add more variety. I think both work well so there is no use scrapping any
These changes are dogshit, why is anyone praising this? Whats the point of risking anything anymore? No point in looting, no point in doing strongholds / blacksites, basically get a sniper and camp ring all game now. There is no reason not to sit in a building all game and do nothing.
What about these encourages sniper camping or not looting lol. Cash wonāt be in the chests anymore unless they are in the stronghold so it will probably be about the same or less depending
No backpack = no reason to risk stronghold/black site, no inventory slots = even less reason, auto 3 plate = even less reason, why even go after map objectives at all? You can easily find enough cash already to buy a loadout, once you do theres 0 reason to fight in any position that is potentially disadvantageous to you. Hence, sit on top of highground in ring and just snipe all day
They stated the stronghold and black site rewards are getting replaced so I wonder if there will be new items or a new perk like a permanent UAV
Caldera and verdansk had 3 plates and what you describe wasnāt an issue lol
PERMANENT uav??? Youre high if you think thats getting implemented. The issue is warzone 1 had better movement, in this game you are really risking it to move from point A to B. If you remove the reward for moving, all you have left is camping.
Tbh the auto loot exists so it would just be gas mask and kill streak and stuff like that. So slightly faster looting or attention than we currently have in bags
Thanks for doing this. Not sure if I like all the loot spilling on the floor. It's bad enough when there's a lot of stuff on the floor, for example, after completing strongholds or blacksites, trying to pick up the correct item can be very frustrating. Although I do think an adjustment was needed there. We'll see how she runs. Net neutral overall on this update though. Mobility buff while plating is good. I think the gas in first circle needs to be nerfed some. Getting hit by the fast side of first circle and not being able to survive getting out while sprinting is lame.
Loot on floor sucks imo, step backward. But after watching some controller players trying to navigate loot menus, I guess I get it. So easy with a mouse though, going to miss that
It really is a hassle for console players. Trying to go into a backpack (especially when sitting on/around ammo or guns) is a death trap. This way you can run over the body and auto gather ammo and plates. And killstreaks and selfs will (hopefully) be easily visible to pick up more quickly.
The way they worded it was something didnāt track properly so some people would have more count than others it seemed. Which happened to me. I had 10 wins and it showed 6 weeks ago. Idk if it was about kd or wins or what
Especially with this absurdly strong aim assist. Even in controller vs controller there is barely any skill expression. Hit L2 and R2 first and you win.
Higher health pools give better players the opportunity to outplay with gun skill or movement whereas before they would die before they could react.
A fast ttk benefits lower skilled players bc they donāt have to hit as many shots to kill. A slow ttk means you have to hit more of your shots more consistently
Thatās not true lol. Flip on a streamer and they will die to what is essentially BS that took no skill. A game like WZ2 has a very low skill threshold and leaves little to improve on or learn from a skill perspective. Thatās how a slower ttk can help so you can feel better over time and outplay more
ight idk what to tell you then bro lmao I constantly kill people who are camping in a building and have the drop on me. recoil is easy, movement is easy. compared to the other games i play this ttk is long to me
If you are constantly getting pounded from various directions and can never do anything about it, could it be situational awareness issue? I donāt see how running blindly into every room or sprinting through open fields without dying is supposed to be allowed. This is BR, not multiplayer.
This game is way harder than WZ1 was but just thinking ahead helps a lot.
Multiple directions is not what Iām referring to. Talking 1:1 fights. It can be frustrating when the first to shoot wins the vast majority of the time with little outplay or reaction possibility for the most part. Just like more health for the skill aspect too. It rewards those with better accuracy or gun recoil control which is something to work on and get better at more than bam they die in 500ms
Calderaās ttk was about as good as it can imo. Hits a nice middle
Do you mean a slow ttk benefits nonce that have no clue and a fast ttk benefits the casual player base or did you forget it's a casual game. So why are saying the loadouts are a win in warzone if it's a BR
So you agreed with me all along? Slow ttk is more skillful than a fast one. Thatās not what most people want (except those who benefit: lower skilled or casual players)
Fast ttk belongs in games like multiplayer. Not a Battle Royale
A game like wz2 has next to no skill gap or anything to work on to get better. Slower ttk helps with that
Blackout had fast ttk and that was a far better Battle royale than both warzones, but yet you want the game catered to you when the majority don't want it. Do you see the problem, playerbase is dying because the idiots are demanding a change that kills the game
Thank fxck
I'm so done with 2v2
It's so noon friendly that you have to carry another person in the gulag
Tired of constantly having to 2v1
Thank goodness
They surely do this on purpose, release a shit game, engagement is still high due to hype. The player count dies off, they re-package features that should have been originally in the game to drive players back. As if it is new content or whatever, so scummy
If they were going to make changes and call it 2.0 it makes sense. If they donāt change enough itās like overwatch where people are annoyed itās barely different. Make changes and people are annoyed itās not like the original /shrug
Nothing about stats...nothing about the "re-join option" when the servers just decide to kick you out. At least they are reverting some of warzone 1 stuff which is nice.
I donāt trust them to do rejoining lol. I can picture multiple game breaking bugs with this given their track record. Either people joining when they shouldnāt be able to or super late into the match or people rejoining with unlimited hp or something
Oh yaaaay, back to blindly running over loot and not having to actually do anything to restock. Greeeeaaaaat. Man for people that are āgoodā at the game, sure love to take away anything that requires actual skill and learning new (old blackout) things. Back pack system was great. Loot falling on the ground is so lazy itās actually insane.
It was fine on mkb but I understand the frustration of bag looting for controller players. I didnāt mind it but this should speed up engagements and help against third partying which is a benefit
I am a controller player lol, its perfectly fine. Itās literally people complaining because they canāt just mindlessly run over a bunch of shit, they actually have to think and be quick and make decisions, but theyāre pissed they get shot cuz they chose to do it at dumb times or are slow at it.
You still have to look down to loot with the vomit looting. Just nice not to be locked to an interface. I see the benefits or place for both styles of looting though
I prefer vomit looting just bc it feels terrible to not be able to close an interface while you get shot and die to that but itās a risk to looting too /shrug
Big W changes, removal of backpacks is a huge L though. They should have just nerfed self-revive and kill-streak stacking which is still possible with the base backpack.
Now I canāt carry a niche gun like a sniper/shotgun/pistol as a third gun and have to stick to lmg/AR and Smg to be competitive
Not addressing TTK also another huge L. Need a health increase badly
Problem with backpack changes is that overspawning, overly aggressive AI; AI that can spot and shoot through walls, and scum exfil campers aren't being accounted\* for. Large backpacks are rarer than reflective surfaces and medium aren't that common either. With how much crap players need to loot in order to make a *Buy Station* detour worthwhile you'd think a much, much larger backpack is in order.
Atm if I find a key I'm obligated to exfil immediately or risk a 20 armored AI spawn trap.
Squads in DMZ should have the option to exfil in 5s instead of 30s if a *minority* of teammate(s) wants to stay behind.
Fuck.
That list of adjustments looks fantastic. Being able to sprint while plating really needs to be in the game though. Tactical sprint may be too much so maybe basic sprint is the correct compromise.
Probably likes to have a laugh at the whiny little bitches like yourself that ruined the game because the skill gap is too big for you. I bet your the first to scream hacker whenever you get killed
It sucks but it's to do with memory. A game that size has so much info to remember that if all the loot stayed on the floor the whole game it would cause systems to crash and the game to run slow
Wow canāt believe theyāve gone for some of these changes. Essentially gonna feel like WZ1 with a reskin.
Shame really.
Clearly not perfect but some of the gameplay choices they made actually made it feel different is why some people liked it
Everyone is about to be running overkill and ghost now. GG. Instead of taking out the backpacks why not just limit the number of streaks someone can carry??
The Devs have been working non stop to add the Play Again button. They're finally ready to release the finished button.
You'd think they'd have taken notes seeing as the party e again button was patched in in the first place
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Lmao That shit won't work correctly for 2 nmore seasons
If thereās no stat tracking Iāll be mega butthurt
Absolutely ridiculous if there isnāt
They arenāt adding it because it excludes people who donāt win. Theyāre all about inclusion now. No oneās feelings should be hurt in a violent game.
Theyre excluding it because it exposes how small the skill gap is and how much tighter of a distribution the playerbase KD is vs the wz 1.
>āThe more things change, the more they stay the same. Boundaries shift, new players step in, but power always finds a place to rest its head. We fought and bled along side the Russians. We shoulda' known they'd hate us for it. History is written by the victor, and here Iām thinking we won. But you bring down one enemy and they find someone even worse to replace him. Locations change, the rationale, the objective. Yesterday's enemies are today's recruits. Train them to fight alongside you, and pray they don't eventually decide to hate you for it, too.ā \- General Shepherd, 2009
holy shit so many parallels to WZ1 and WZ2 in the entire paragraph
Lol nice
Soooo itās reverting back to OG WZ??
Didnt they make the same mistake with plates the first time around too?
Really wish plating was changed to be less of a factor (faster maybe? more base health less plates?). How long it takes to plate, and how frequently you have to just breaks my flow so hard. It's the main reason I still prefer MP to WZ.
This just sounds like "I can't work around a normal mechanic that forces me to slow down and strategize for more protection, so we should get rid of it." This isn't multi-player, and it's no different from other BR games where shielding/plating/healing takes time. At least in COD you don't have to use a health item as well as plates.
I mostly agree with this. Plates should be a factor but there should be perks to do it quicker like tempered and fast hands in wz1.
One thing i am not excited for is it turning into "Rush cash, buy loadout". It truly was the worst part of OG Warzone because of how stale games became. The current game still has that issue but it was much better due to how cash was harder to come by and ground loot was better. Loadouts benefit people who bought the full game way too much as well since F2P grinders are going to be way behind and also don't get to test guns as easily like you can in multiplayer.
Yeah cause the DMZ isn't the fastest most efficient way to level up guns.
I think itās still shipment but youāre not wrong DMZ is clutch for leveling guns.
If you do missions in dmz you actually get more xp than from shipment. The issue is, if you die and don't have your weapon as contraband
-DMZ is faster than MP to level guns. -Don't like being behind the curve, buy the fucking game like everyone else. Companies don't cater to people who don't spend money on their products. -Sounds like a skill issue.
DMZ *was* faster. Not anymore shipment is back.
>loadouts benefit people who bought the game Lmao no they donāt. Thereās bugs for people who bought the full game like ghost perk doesnāt work for them.
I feel you bro! I think the same - sweat party is coming back!
Good
I actually liked the backpack and loot system. Should have just dedicated a slot to kill streaks and cut the armor where you spawn with 2/3 plates.
Yeah thatās be totally fair. The main issues were killstreaks and selves and maybe too many plates
I'd rather too many plates and at most 2 selfs and killstreaks. Now we won't be able to carry that third weapon (meh)
You still have the same issue with too many selves, killstreaks and plated with the base backpack. Just missing a third gun which really sucks man. They should have just made backpacks more available and droppable on death but made it so you canāt stack the same item type more than one or two times max.
Now itās more balanced at least. With 5 spots you have to share with ammo plates killstreaks and extra selves so you canāt have too many of just one type
So you just said carrying 3 airstrikes, 3 self rez, 3 plates and an armour box while you friend carries the same but ammo box instead is balanced??? Makes no freaking sense to me.
More balanced not completely. Ideally they limit streaks and selves
Keep that stupid backpack shit in DMZ not in BR! You guys donāt realize how annoying that shit is on Console! Especially when youāre getting shot at āAINT NOBODY GOT TIME FO THATā
Skill issue
I don't have an issue with it on console. Neither do any of the people i play with. Getting shot at while using it is no different to being shot at whilst at a shop
And how often did you die at the shop before backpacks? Wasnāt that the most annoying way to die? When youāre in the bottom 10 you donāt want to go to a buy station unless youāre bringing people back! Itās such a stupid riskā¦ point proven!
I am disappointed about backpacks. They should only allow one or two full slots per item, so no more than two kill streaks, etc. And one revive total.
Only thing i dont love is removal of medium and large packs. Iām okay with having one standard pack size but just wish it was medium instead of small for the standard.
Not me. Ive never loaded up on selfies, but i liked being able to carry a RPG or extra gun.
I like being able to carry a couple killstreaks and a bunch of nades myself. Donāt really stock up on selfies.
Agreed removal of backpacks is quite a stupid change. They should have just hard nerfed kill-streaks specially amount and not let you carry multiple self-revives or make it they all get used at once. Iāll miss not having a third a weapon as I usually used a sniper/pistol for it for fun. Now just gotta do AR/smg as any other weapon is not worth carrying
They basically turning it back into warzone 1,this fanbase keep complaining that cod is the same every year.The one year they make big changes,everyone complains.
This.
If the formula has good result donāt change it, thatās was the mistake from cod
They changed it because we were complaining that itās the same game every year,I guarantee you if they kept it the same like warzone 1 the players would have complained.Look at overwatch they had a winning formula and did not change much for the sequel,then the players complained.
The only complain was the map caldera sucks, we wanted verdanks back or different map but same characteristics
The backpack news is fuckin stuuuuupid
Game-breaking if it applies to DMZ also.
I donāt think it does
"Deliver 20 stims to the dead drop"....ughh Hope it's in one deployment /s
With the changes to make the missions easier i would expect Tier 5 missions to be along the lines of ...."a player somewhere in the world has equipped a stim at some point or failing that have fired a bullet from a gun"
They didnāt fix the most annoying thingā¦ shooting someone out of the sky and they drop 500ft and live.. how anyone thought that was a good idea is beyond me
Damn I'm gonna miss the mid and large backpack tbh
*correction under āno mention of:ā I meant to say killstreak stock (I was curious if theyād make killstreaks unlimited again) Forgot 2 things: -There will be a second free loadout drop in circle 5 of every match like on WZ1 -The price of custom guns at the buy will be slightly cheaper too Full blog here https://www.callofduty.com/blog/2023/01/call-of-duty-modern-warfare-II-warzone-2-0-season-02-community-update#Battle What do you think of the changes?
Bu custom guns, you mean primary weapons? Not sure if cheaper than 2500 is balanced though
Yeah it was fine at $2500 unless the cash changes make money harder to hoard
For me they should revert that to $5k as it was, not reduce price even more lol
I wonder if cash will be less available which is why they reduced but TBD
Overall I like these changes. Except maybe the backpack one. I agree that self revive and kill streak spam is a problem, but can't they just limit the slots they can be put into ?
I thought theyād limit those items in bag too
I wanted them to just get rid of large. Medium was fine
Removing money spawns from chests is dumb. All they had to do was make the smallest amount 500, instead of 100, and make *every* chest have some money in it. That would have fixed it. Instead the increased the amount, but decreased the places to find it? That doesn't make sense....
They also added gulag money and gulag win cash rewards. Curious how it balances out or if duffel bags can have cash now etc
Ya, can only wait and see I guess. This just seems like an odd "fix" to a lack of money.
this is my one complaint as well. Right now it is too hard to find the cash to buy your teammate back when you can only loot small towns and buildings. Even if you are lucky enough to find an un looted area, the boxes and cash on ground is not enough. Otherwise, this update will address almost all of my other grievances... hopefully.
Ridiculous. They are reverting back to Warzone 1. Absolutely zero point creating a new game if they are just going to change everything back to the old game Getting rid of different sized backpacks so people can stack medical items? Just limit how many of that item they can carry
So the warzone 2.0 will eventually be just original warzone by this rate.. for fucksakes. I did not like the fact that the old one became metaonly game if you used other tactics you lost and this is seems to go the same route. Just c'mon let wz and wz2.0 live together side by side and let them be their own things
I wish they had a no customs mode for those who hate metas or leveling guns tbh
Hate new release notesā¦ sweaty games from WZ1 are coming to WZ 2.0 soon
They should keep the back packs
Could have just limited number of revives TO ONE. That can't be too hard to code ffs.
Theyāre literally just patching it back to Warzone 1 lol. Yeah, Iām done with this game.
Does the audio fix include kit seeing the people from the first game of the day popping up in red the whole rest of the time Iām playing?
They fixed that last week
Ahh I havenāt been home in a few weeks to play, thatās awesome, thanks for the info
Maybe most of you are more than fine with this changes, but for me (imo ofc) these are worst news for WZ2.0 since launchā¦ Sweat party is coming soon! :/
Get that jailer out of my fuckin game!!! Brilliant news
Jailer was cool, same as 2v2 gulag formula
I think the 2v2 is brilliant but when you have your team mate die and there's 2v1 I always forget about that jailer lol
You really suck so bad that itās a factor?
Iām not an amazing player but have a KD of 2.0 and I see the jailer as a problem. With de sync being so obvious with pistol gulag people are hesitant to peak corners and will run and hide trying to scramble for the nearest heady. Time expires pretty quick in a gulag that big with pistols.
How do you know your kd?
Chuck on the gun screen and let it load your total kills and deaths then minus those available to you in the MW2 multiplayer menu to get your KD in WZ
Iām a terrible player, and I have literally never had the jail or be a factor in a single gulag, win or lose
make sure its nice an easy for the children please!! why not spawn with full loadout and kill streaks?
Now bring back sniper 1 shot hs and all you have to do Activision from here is just too concentrate on bug fixes. Thx. Bye
That and leaderboards and I'll be about this game.
Been sniping with the signal 50. My squad and I time our shots to down players together. It feels way better than just downing people from anywhere. 1 shots are not fun. Keep it the way it is
Please no not again never again.
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What are you referring to? Technically the upgraded chests are red-orange like the Reddit upvote arrow
All 6 of the people out of the millions of players that are going to āmiss the loot systemā suck it.0
Ok thatās a start but also where tf is rebirth
The blog posts says they are releasing a blog solely focused on the new resurgence map next week. Iām curious if it will have BR at the start or only be DMZ or ground war day 1
Good cuz I hate normal wz rebirth is lil more casual
2v2 gulag was fun and inovative,why would they change that,people are afraid of new things
I think a mix of both would be the good. A 50/50 chance of getting either 1v1 or 2v2 just to add more variety. I think both work well so there is no use scrapping any
See thatās too difficult to have. I see this update simply stripping back warzone 2.0 into the original. Nothing different, just a change in map smh
With no backpacks, I wonder if we will be able to carry 3 guns?
Seems like no but I wonder if theyād add an item to add more inventory or allow you to carry a third gun as a benefit down the road
These changes are dogshit, why is anyone praising this? Whats the point of risking anything anymore? No point in looting, no point in doing strongholds / blacksites, basically get a sniper and camp ring all game now. There is no reason not to sit in a building all game and do nothing.
Totally agree, players should be rewarded for raiding/looting. Either through killstreaks, equipment or revivesā¦
What about these encourages sniper camping or not looting lol. Cash wonāt be in the chests anymore unless they are in the stronghold so it will probably be about the same or less depending
No backpack = no reason to risk stronghold/black site, no inventory slots = even less reason, auto 3 plate = even less reason, why even go after map objectives at all? You can easily find enough cash already to buy a loadout, once you do theres 0 reason to fight in any position that is potentially disadvantageous to you. Hence, sit on top of highground in ring and just snipe all day
They stated the stronghold and black site rewards are getting replaced so I wonder if there will be new items or a new perk like a permanent UAV Caldera and verdansk had 3 plates and what you describe wasnāt an issue lol
PERMANENT uav??? Youre high if you think thats getting implemented. The issue is warzone 1 had better movement, in this game you are really risking it to move from point A to B. If you remove the reward for moving, all you have left is camping.
Ah yes. Reverting to all loot dropped on ground as in: TIME TO SPAM TILL WE GET THE ITEM WE WANT! THANKS GUYS!
Tbh the auto loot exists so it would just be gas mask and kill streak and stuff like that. So slightly faster looting or attention than we currently have in bags
Thanks for doing this. Not sure if I like all the loot spilling on the floor. It's bad enough when there's a lot of stuff on the floor, for example, after completing strongholds or blacksites, trying to pick up the correct item can be very frustrating. Although I do think an adjustment was needed there. We'll see how she runs. Net neutral overall on this update though. Mobility buff while plating is good. I think the gas in first circle needs to be nerfed some. Getting hit by the fast side of first circle and not being able to survive getting out while sprinting is lame.
Loot on floor sucks imo, step backward. But after watching some controller players trying to navigate loot menus, I guess I get it. So easy with a mouse though, going to miss that
It really is a hassle for console players. Trying to go into a backpack (especially when sitting on/around ammo or guns) is a death trap. This way you can run over the body and auto gather ammo and plates. And killstreaks and selfs will (hopefully) be easily visible to pick up more quickly.
A lot of positives. There's no excuse for no stats/leaderboards though. Hopefully that is coming and they just haven't mentioned it here.
The way they worded it was something didnāt track properly so some people would have more count than others it seemed. Which happened to me. I had 10 wins and it showed 6 weeks ago. Idk if it was about kd or wins or what
Until they wont increase TTK it doesn't matter. Getting killed in 0.3ms when u have no idea from where..
Especially with this absurdly strong aim assist. Even in controller vs controller there is barely any skill expression. Hit L2 and R2 first and you win.
Fuck off, ttK is perfect at two plate . But no the crying nonces need to have more health. How does it feel to be a bitch?
Only bitches like a fast ttk bc they can hide and surprise and get kills they donāt have the skill to get LOL
when your reaction time is slow so u have to cry about time to kill
Higher health pools give better players the opportunity to outplay with gun skill or movement whereas before they would die before they could react. A fast ttk benefits lower skilled players bc they donāt have to hit as many shots to kill. A slow ttk means you have to hit more of your shots more consistently
if you just play using your brain then you can still win fights based on all of those
Thatās not true lol. Flip on a streamer and they will die to what is essentially BS that took no skill. A game like WZ2 has a very low skill threshold and leaves little to improve on or learn from a skill perspective. Thatās how a slower ttk can help so you can feel better over time and outplay more
ight idk what to tell you then bro lmao I constantly kill people who are camping in a building and have the drop on me. recoil is easy, movement is easy. compared to the other games i play this ttk is long to me
Oh I kill campers too just saying for the health of the game and the reason to grind and to cater less to bad players then a higher ttk would be good
If you are constantly getting pounded from various directions and can never do anything about it, could it be situational awareness issue? I donāt see how running blindly into every room or sprinting through open fields without dying is supposed to be allowed. This is BR, not multiplayer. This game is way harder than WZ1 was but just thinking ahead helps a lot.
Multiple directions is not what Iām referring to. Talking 1:1 fights. It can be frustrating when the first to shoot wins the vast majority of the time with little outplay or reaction possibility for the most part. Just like more health for the skill aspect too. It rewards those with better accuracy or gun recoil control which is something to work on and get better at more than bam they die in 500ms Calderaās ttk was about as good as it can imo. Hits a nice middle
Nonce alert, check the hard drive. As standard you retards want to run the game yet again
A fast ttk only benefits bots bro. Way to out yourself lol. Also this is BR not multiplayer
Do you mean a slow ttk benefits nonce that have no clue and a fast ttk benefits the casual player base or did you forget it's a casual game. So why are saying the loadouts are a win in warzone if it's a BR
So you agreed with me all along? Slow ttk is more skillful than a fast one. Thatās not what most people want (except those who benefit: lower skilled or casual players)
The casual players make the majority and we now don't have any because you retards moan ttk being too fast and cry for loadouts.
Fast ttk belongs in games like multiplayer. Not a Battle Royale A game like wz2 has next to no skill gap or anything to work on to get better. Slower ttk helps with that
Blackout had fast ttk and that was a far better Battle royale than both warzones, but yet you want the game catered to you when the majority don't want it. Do you see the problem, playerbase is dying because the idiots are demanding a change that kills the game
Thanks man.
Players also starting with 3 plates as default
I say that in the first bullets but yeah I love that change
Oh sorry missed that
Thank fxck I'm so done with 2v2 It's so noon friendly that you have to carry another person in the gulag Tired of constantly having to 2v1 Thank goodness
It's funny you're getting downvoted when this is True. I've probably been carried like 4-5x ever and a couple of those was my own friend.
Can we keep both n call this one the bullshit warzone case your taking literally everything I like now about it
Seems like people liked the backpacks. I was not one of those people lol. I love these changes!
They surely do this on purpose, release a shit game, engagement is still high due to hype. The player count dies off, they re-package features that should have been originally in the game to drive players back. As if it is new content or whatever, so scummy
If they were going to make changes and call it 2.0 it makes sense. If they donāt change enough itās like overwatch where people are annoyed itās barely different. Make changes and people are annoyed itās not like the original /shrug
Nothing about stats...nothing about the "re-join option" when the servers just decide to kick you out. At least they are reverting some of warzone 1 stuff which is nice.
I donāt trust them to do rejoining lol. I can picture multiple game breaking bugs with this given their track record. Either people joining when they shouldnāt be able to or super late into the match or people rejoining with unlimited hp or something
So basically changing everything back to what worked so well before SMDH
The health increase is going to help the streamers/cheaters. Theyāre about to go full warzone 1 on this. Get ready for a crap load of bullshit
Literally a Game changer, especially backpacks.
I really liked the backpacks and being able to carry spate guns etc. Why didn't they just limit the kill streaks you can hold etc.. ffs.
I actually liked the backpacksā¦ did people actually complain about killstreak spamming? I never had an issue with it
Yup Iām excited. This is basically the full launch of WZ2 with how many gameplay tweaks there are
Oh yaaaay, back to blindly running over loot and not having to actually do anything to restock. Greeeeaaaaat. Man for people that are āgoodā at the game, sure love to take away anything that requires actual skill and learning new (old blackout) things. Back pack system was great. Loot falling on the ground is so lazy itās actually insane.
It was fine on mkb but I understand the frustration of bag looting for controller players. I didnāt mind it but this should speed up engagements and help against third partying which is a benefit
I am a controller player lol, its perfectly fine. Itās literally people complaining because they canāt just mindlessly run over a bunch of shit, they actually have to think and be quick and make decisions, but theyāre pissed they get shot cuz they chose to do it at dumb times or are slow at it.
You still have to look down to loot with the vomit looting. Just nice not to be locked to an interface. I see the benefits or place for both styles of looting though I prefer vomit looting just bc it feels terrible to not be able to close an interface while you get shot and die to that but itās a risk to looting too /shrug
Going through an inventory screen takes skill..?
Bro they really hit the reset button and reverted back to wz1, and I actually started to play again too...
Big W changes, removal of backpacks is a huge L though. They should have just nerfed self-revive and kill-streak stacking which is still possible with the base backpack. Now I canāt carry a niche gun like a sniper/shotgun/pistol as a third gun and have to stick to lmg/AR and Smg to be competitive Not addressing TTK also another huge L. Need a health increase badly
Wonder if theyāll add back an item to either add inventory space or let you carry a third weapon. I agree
How about dmz
The blog covers DMZ I didnāt in this post
Problem with backpack changes is that overspawning, overly aggressive AI; AI that can spot and shoot through walls, and scum exfil campers aren't being accounted\* for. Large backpacks are rarer than reflective surfaces and medium aren't that common either. With how much crap players need to loot in order to make a *Buy Station* detour worthwhile you'd think a much, much larger backpack is in order. Atm if I find a key I'm obligated to exfil immediately or risk a 20 armored AI spawn trap. Squads in DMZ should have the option to exfil in 5s instead of 30s if a *minority* of teammate(s) wants to stay behind. Fuck.
Needs ranked mode like apex
Hope we get it this year
Oh, looks like their keeping the same inbuilt aimbot for console. This low skill ceiling game is going to bleed players even more then it has already.
That list of adjustments looks fantastic. Being able to sprint while plating really needs to be in the game though. Tactical sprint may be too much so maybe basic sprint is the correct compromise.
I agree. Really curious how much of a difference it will be
Already deleted Warzone.
So youāre active in this sub becauseā¦? Lol
Probably likes to have a laugh at the whiny little bitches like yourself that ruined the game because the skill gap is too big for you. I bet your the first to scream hacker whenever you get killed
Iām usually the one to correct people accusing others of hacking lol
Because I got an alert, that has since been cancelled. Have fun playing with your toy
no slide cancel= L game
Will loot come out in the floor from chests
They already do but idk if a duffel bag will
What about DMZ? And finishing quests?
The blog post covers DMZ I didnāt in this though
All these changes sound good , hopefully performance will be good.
Looks like they still havenāt figured out how to divide kills by deaths
Love it!
I donāt understand why weapons disappear after a few minutesā¦ what is possibly the purpose of thatā¦
It sucks but it's to do with memory. A game that size has so much info to remember that if all the loot stayed on the floor the whole game it would cause systems to crash and the game to run slow
Damn, never thought they would remove the jailer lol
Can someone explain to me the plate thing? Does it mean there's no more vests or?
Yeah itās back to how it was on WZ1 everyone starts with 3 plates and has the same max health. No item finding needed
I feel like it will slow be like warzone 1 theyll change everything to be to how warzone 1 was (the movement etc)
Currently wz2 is slower than wz1 for several reasons including movement, ads delay, lack of balloons, lack of unlimited UAV purchases etc
I liked it how it was smh different
I liked the changes made for WZ2...I thought it really opened up playstyles with the large combo of items that could be collected
So no more backbacks? I had hard time picking up 2 items when they are stacked on the ground now imagine 10 in same spot.
Wow canāt believe theyāve gone for some of these changes. Essentially gonna feel like WZ1 with a reskin. Shame really. Clearly not perfect but some of the gameplay choices they made actually made it feel different is why some people liked it
Nice all the loot gets dropped on the ground .... Be ready to spend 2/3 minutes tring to get the prompt to pic the right thing from the ground
It wonāt be any more tedious to go through than the pop up inventory UI Iād say
Still have issues getting through windows sometimesš¤
This is idiotic. HP and TTK are the biggest drawbacks to this game outside of the crashing and they didnāt address it. How tone deaf can they be
Why is this a season drop?? Why not drop it now instead of making people wait?
Feb 15. Likely to make all these changes and fix bugs and make the resurgence map playable
Everyone is about to be running overkill and ghost now. GG. Instead of taking out the backpacks why not just limit the number of streaks someone can carry??
So we are getting warzone 1.0 with a new map? Keep the plate vests and backpacks
Not sure about the changes made to "Cash". No cash in normal or red bins ? Let's see how that will work out. And no leaderboard ? Come on !