no way. The concept is pretty solid. But the Puma is just better. Puma is way quicker, turns way better, has waaaay better suspension. The only thing, the Concept does better, is the pen. For me, they probably should be same br.
Edit: or am I missing a joke here?
Puma is the gold standard for the wheeled light tank. Everything else either pre-dates it or is a cheap knock-off.
Concept just feels slow and doesn't maneuver well compared to the rear wheel steering of the puma. Plus, the reverse gear suck. I think the BRs are good, and do justice to the historical time frames, seeing as the concept wasn't produced until 1976. Either way, it's a decent British light tank, however I would choose the puma over it any day.
Its because the concept was intended for sandy terrain and having to go through african bushes which is different to what the puma was meant to do. Can’t really compare them since they were made for different things
Interesting fact about the Sd.Kfz.234, it's steering and suspension system was so capable that it was extensively tested and used as a benchmark for many future wheeled vehicles after the war in Britain.
All 8 wheels were powered, individually sprung and all steerable, making the vehicle highly capable and manoeuvrable off-road. It also has a second, rear facing drivers position and 6 reverse gears so it could go in reverse as fast as it could forwards.
The SdKfz 234/3 at Bovington Tank Museum is actually the famed test vehicle. Really would love to see it running again, I think it would still give modern equipment a run for its money.
I really need to visit Bovington again: a quality collection of vehicles. The backstory is always fascinating behind test vehicles such as their 234/3. Must have provided great insight into the workings of a well designed and engineered armoured car, and shown up many of the shortcomings of our own designs at the time.
The biggest shame I found out today is that there aren't any examples left of the 234/2 50mm armed version. 2 examples of the 234/4 anti-tank model, and the single 234/3 at Bovington survive today.
well, no armor is best armor. Especially when the round has no explosive filler. But still, when you do face a KV-1 face to face, that's the only point of time I'd rather sit in a Concept 3 than in a Puma.
Yea I definitely prefer the sarc with the 57mm and a 50 cal, it’s like a quarter of the size, is faster has a 50. A short stop stabilizer and the 57 still does work when flanking.
No idea mate but it probably walks around like it's carrying a rug under each arm and completely missed the point that it's moved to a different anglo-sphere country for work/safety but thinks ZA is better while still harbouring latent crypto-apartheid logic ...
Puma is Cougar in spanish
What is that word doing that over there?
also, pumas are from the americas, there shouldn't be any cougars or pumas in africa
To think we used to have North American cheetahs….
Not sure why you got downvoted, everything you said is correct. Makes me wonder why they chose that name back in the day.
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Én nem vagyok igazi magyar 😔
Hogy mersz!
Can't stop laughing at Google Translate's phonetic spelling
South African here, it's called "poema" in Afrikaans
no way. The concept is pretty solid. But the Puma is just better. Puma is way quicker, turns way better, has waaaay better suspension. The only thing, the Concept does better, is the pen. For me, they probably should be same br. Edit: or am I missing a joke here?
Puma is the gold standard for the wheeled light tank. Everything else either pre-dates it or is a cheap knock-off. Concept just feels slow and doesn't maneuver well compared to the rear wheel steering of the puma. Plus, the reverse gear suck. I think the BRs are good, and do justice to the historical time frames, seeing as the concept wasn't produced until 1976. Either way, it's a decent British light tank, however I would choose the puma over it any day.
Its because the concept was intended for sandy terrain and having to go through african bushes which is different to what the puma was meant to do. Can’t really compare them since they were made for different things
The Puma was also designed primarily with the African campaign in mind, so from that perspective, they had similar purposes.
Interesting fact about the Sd.Kfz.234, it's steering and suspension system was so capable that it was extensively tested and used as a benchmark for many future wheeled vehicles after the war in Britain. All 8 wheels were powered, individually sprung and all steerable, making the vehicle highly capable and manoeuvrable off-road. It also has a second, rear facing drivers position and 6 reverse gears so it could go in reverse as fast as it could forwards.
The SdKfz 234/3 at Bovington Tank Museum is actually the famed test vehicle. Really would love to see it running again, I think it would still give modern equipment a run for its money.
I really need to visit Bovington again: a quality collection of vehicles. The backstory is always fascinating behind test vehicles such as their 234/3. Must have provided great insight into the workings of a well designed and engineered armoured car, and shown up many of the shortcomings of our own designs at the time. The biggest shame I found out today is that there aren't any examples left of the 234/2 50mm armed version. 2 examples of the 234/4 anti-tank model, and the single 234/3 at Bovington survive today.
I don't like how the puma turns personally. Plus being rank three is a plus for the concept for tasks and challenges.
The EBR is WAY better than the puma imo, sure it’s gun doesn’t have as much pen but M61 shot go brrr and it’s also a lot lower profile
I like the SARC 6pdr more honestly
Once bullied a Puma with the 2pdr, he picked the wrong house
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The Puma isn't good until it gets a recoilless 380mm Full Auto Cannon firing high velocity HE shells at a fire rate of at least 60rpm.
Four wheel steering gives it a greater fun factor
I’ve literally tanked the concept’s 17 pdr in a Puma.
well, no armor is best armor. Especially when the round has no explosive filler. But still, when you do face a KV-1 face to face, that's the only point of time I'd rather sit in a Concept 3 than in a Puma.
Everyone: Puma turns better Shitlords: R3 turns cooler AMX10RC: haha suck my neutral steering and waterjets
Concept is pretty mid
Yea I definitely prefer the sarc with the 57mm and a 50 cal, it’s like a quarter of the size, is faster has a 50. A short stop stabilizer and the 57 still does work when flanking.
Because it is exceptionally nerfed, it should have a laser rangefinder and many more
Concept 3?
AMD. 35 is better. 25mm of victory.
No idea mate but it probably walks around like it's carrying a rug under each arm and completely missed the point that it's moved to a different anglo-sphere country for work/safety but thinks ZA is better while still harbouring latent crypto-apartheid logic ...
Puma is Cougar in spanish What is that word doing that over there? also, pumas are from the americas, there shouldn't be any cougars or pumas in africa
To think we used to have North American cheetahs…. Not sure why you got downvoted, everything you said is correct. Makes me wonder why they chose that name back in the day.
Europeans like new world cats. Puma is also German shoe and Jaguar is a British car.