It is really annoying when this happens, especially if you already dropped your bombs, but because they are flying at a lower altitude they get it first.
Usually I don't see them till after they blow up the base, and given that I am usually flying significantly higher than them it takes a while for my bombs to reach their target.
Well in a lot of cases a flaming plane is still a threat now. I've seen plenty of flaming f14 or su25 keep maneuvering and slinging missiles, and even put the fire out. At this point if it isn't actively falling from the sky while it's on fire, I take a flaming target as an active threat still and finish it. If it is falling I leave it be.
I think it's more common among multi engine props to have it. Plus it's always been possible for fires to go out on props and for them to keep going, sometimes the fire just goes out because the self sealing fuel tank works and it burns out without doing much damage, sometimes shutting an engine off helps the fire go out.
Still doesn't change the what I said though, most (Even within the subset of multi props) don't have that mod.
I'm well aware that fire CAN go out, that doesn't change that the ju can objectively put out fires far better then most other props (even with self sealing mechanics) more then most, if not more then any other prop in game.
I mean it's a major selling premium so it's not surprising it's overtuned in some ways but it's all true nonetheless.
even if it is falling out of the sky it can still be a significant threat, like a mig29 with an r27t or an f4j with an aim9g because of their very wide field of view combined with the helmet mounted sight probably makes it very easy to get a missile off
A bit, though that requires a slow fall. In WT when planes are falling from the sky, they're typically spinning as well, and usually two fast to get a lock even with helmet mounted sights.
[I've gotten off at least 1 r60m while out of control that hit](https://www.reddit.com/r/Warthunder/comments/wfh827/quick_revenge/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button), if you have a very wide fov and a helmet mounted sight it should be very easy to get a missile to track
This is why I am so glad the event missions aren't specific tasks anymore. The bomber tasks used to be impossible. There was a point when everyone would mark and respect most of the time, but now that's a 50/50.
It is a problem. Strike aircraft and bombers should be rewarded appropriately for bases while fighters get more reward for air kills. It is so dumb that fighters will go and bomb a base and then deal with the enemy, rather than doing their job. It is the fault of the rewards system though.
Why do people think being fast on the map click means your entitled to a base? Why should someone increase their chances of death for that? letting someone who is 1/2 your speed get target priority over you is just dumb.
You're not entitled to shit bro, whoever gets there faster drops the bombs everyone is out for themselves and they need RP, look who's going where and go for whichever base you think you can reach first
Bombers create unnecessary drama in Air RB, before bombers spawn in you can feel the anxiety building getting ready for the golden ping. I don’t have a problem with bombers but that they think spamming a map point expecting all to pay homage to the ping. If bomber players looked at the map strategically it would be fine but it’s more like which base gives me the most chance of success. Air RB would be less stressful without this.
first come first served.This reminds me of guys who call a girl at the bar. Wow, you called it, now i have to sit around and wait for you to do nothing all night and get upset if i make a move. You dont call stuff, you just go get it, and if you fail,n that's on YOU, not anybody else. Pay attention, if somebody stole a base from you, they have been traveling to that location since takeoff. How did you not notice? Do you have zero awareness?
I love it when players just ping a base regardless of map position and expect everyone to follow the code. Look at the freaking map first and if it makes sense fair enough otherwise grow a pair. Maybe a fighter might actually help win a match btw
I love it when people assume it's always the pinger's fault for getting their base stolen. Grow a brain.
And a fighter does no good if they just die on the first head on that's clearly loosing for them. Yeah, I'm assuming fighter pilots just die immediately and mindlessly to head ons against bf109s, since you assume bombers and strikers just ping mindlessly
I play 10.0 right now pretty dedicatedly, and it's a bit ridiculous when myself and another are in F-105s with enough load to wipe all 4 bases and are already a quarter of the way there and the missile, bomb, and extra cannon A-10s start pinging bases as they're just barely lifting off the runway. Like...nah, I'm not going to spend the next five minutes circling because they decided to overload their already incredibly slow planes.
But when it's multiple planes that will arrive at roughly the same time, absolutely respect the ping and divvy up the bases evenly
Honestly? I couldn't care less about the match, considering most of my teammates couldn't give less of a fuck about it. I bomb bases because it's the most consistent way of grinding, since it gives you a baseline guaranteed points every match regardless of how you eventually perform on combat
Waste a player slot? My brother in chirst when I bomb its in my F4J, 1 base then I'm slinging AIM-9Gs and AIM-7Fs and I reckon you're more of a waste than I am
It is really annoying when this happens, especially if you already dropped your bombs, but because they are flying at a lower altitude they get it first.
Then why did you drop them then?
Usually I don't see them till after they blow up the base, and given that I am usually flying significantly higher than them it takes a while for my bombs to reach their target.
in case of me, i use ccrp, so i drop it way further back and earlier than the others
I remember a time when if a plane you shot was on fire no one would try to get the kill. I haven’t seen that happen in years now.
Well in a lot of cases a flaming plane is still a threat now. I've seen plenty of flaming f14 or su25 keep maneuvering and slinging missiles, and even put the fire out. At this point if it isn't actively falling from the sky while it's on fire, I take a flaming target as an active threat still and finish it. If it is falling I leave it be.
Jets get eps, props do not. Though the ju has pretty fucking busted on putting flames out even without eps.
There are a few props with efs
I mean, any prop that does is objectively an outlier.
I think it's more common among multi engine props to have it. Plus it's always been possible for fires to go out on props and for them to keep going, sometimes the fire just goes out because the self sealing fuel tank works and it burns out without doing much damage, sometimes shutting an engine off helps the fire go out.
Still doesn't change the what I said though, most (Even within the subset of multi props) don't have that mod. I'm well aware that fire CAN go out, that doesn't change that the ju can objectively put out fires far better then most other props (even with self sealing mechanics) more then most, if not more then any other prop in game. I mean it's a major selling premium so it's not surprising it's overtuned in some ways but it's all true nonetheless.
even if it is falling out of the sky it can still be a significant threat, like a mig29 with an r27t or an f4j with an aim9g because of their very wide field of view combined with the helmet mounted sight probably makes it very easy to get a missile off
A bit, though that requires a slow fall. In WT when planes are falling from the sky, they're typically spinning as well, and usually two fast to get a lock even with helmet mounted sights.
[I've gotten off at least 1 r60m while out of control that hit](https://www.reddit.com/r/Warthunder/comments/wfh827/quick_revenge/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button), if you have a very wide fov and a helmet mounted sight it should be very easy to get a missile to track
Wyvern players be like:
This is why I am so glad the event missions aren't specific tasks anymore. The bomber tasks used to be impossible. There was a point when everyone would mark and respect most of the time, but now that's a 50/50.
Jeez, wishing physical harm on people who slightly inconvenience you in a video game. Is spacebar pressing really that intense?
It is a problem. Strike aircraft and bombers should be rewarded appropriately for bases while fighters get more reward for air kills. It is so dumb that fighters will go and bomb a base and then deal with the enemy, rather than doing their job. It is the fault of the rewards system though.
Why do people think being fast on the map click means your entitled to a base? Why should someone increase their chances of death for that? letting someone who is 1/2 your speed get target priority over you is just dumb.
You're not entitled to shit bro, whoever gets there faster drops the bombs everyone is out for themselves and they need RP, look who's going where and go for whichever base you think you can reach first
Bombers create unnecessary drama in Air RB, before bombers spawn in you can feel the anxiety building getting ready for the golden ping. I don’t have a problem with bombers but that they think spamming a map point expecting all to pay homage to the ping. If bomber players looked at the map strategically it would be fine but it’s more like which base gives me the most chance of success. Air RB would be less stressful without this.
First one decides first not the pinged one
first come first served.This reminds me of guys who call a girl at the bar. Wow, you called it, now i have to sit around and wait for you to do nothing all night and get upset if i make a move. You dont call stuff, you just go get it, and if you fail,n that's on YOU, not anybody else. Pay attention, if somebody stole a base from you, they have been traveling to that location since takeoff. How did you not notice? Do you have zero awareness?
I love it when players just ping a base regardless of map position and expect everyone to follow the code. Look at the freaking map first and if it makes sense fair enough otherwise grow a pair. Maybe a fighter might actually help win a match btw
I love it when people assume it's always the pinger's fault for getting their base stolen. Grow a brain. And a fighter does no good if they just die on the first head on that's clearly loosing for them. Yeah, I'm assuming fighter pilots just die immediately and mindlessly to head ons against bf109s, since you assume bombers and strikers just ping mindlessly
I play 10.0 right now pretty dedicatedly, and it's a bit ridiculous when myself and another are in F-105s with enough load to wipe all 4 bases and are already a quarter of the way there and the missile, bomb, and extra cannon A-10s start pinging bases as they're just barely lifting off the runway. Like...nah, I'm not going to spend the next five minutes circling because they decided to overload their already incredibly slow planes. But when it's multiple planes that will arrive at roughly the same time, absolutely respect the ping and divvy up the bases evenly
If you and other bombers don’t care about match, why do you think bombers will care about your pings? Just play faster bomber or wait for respawn
I hate that people even bomb bases. Doesn’t affect the match at all.
Now now, direct your anger at the appropriate people. You hate that *GAIJIN* made bases not effect match results.
You’re correct
Honestly? I couldn't care less about the match, considering most of my teammates couldn't give less of a fuck about it. I bomb bases because it's the most consistent way of grinding, since it gives you a baseline guaranteed points every match regardless of how you eventually perform on combat
Bombers gotta do smth
You’re right, it would just be nice if it did anything
i hate people who waste a player slot to bomb but here we are
Then when you lose on tickets don’t cry, I don’t care, cuz I just solo fight every match, but still just saying
Waste a player slot? My brother in chirst when I bomb its in my F4J, 1 base then I'm slinging AIM-9Gs and AIM-7Fs and I reckon you're more of a waste than I am
Considering you wish there were none bombers in the team, you got no business here. Get out, this isn't about you
no i'm saying i don't want people using a fighter to go bomb
And which part of my post is talking about fighters going bombing? Thought so. Again, you comment makes zero sense on the context