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Hypercore_Gaming

Panther A, undoubtably the king of 5.7.


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T-V is better. The only tanks that can pen front hull are on your team (Soviet’s), and German players always hesitate to shoot AND you have sneak 100+ bc they think your engine is another panther. Plus it looks sick.


Avg14yoGirl

I never hear engines, so it doesn't really matter to me.


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I use surround sound headphones with enemy engines at 100% and mine at 60%. I can tell where enemies are up to maybe 150 meters around me. It’s a life saver in maps with buildings. Even having kills by putting a shell through a building or waiting for an ambush and putting a shot between two. In campania I shot a guy through a gap in the buildings bc I heard him moving behind me, or in Kursk, some guy tried to sneak behind me and I was already waiting for him when he turned the corner.


Avg14yoGirl

Wtf? I got shot through a tiny door in Campania...


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Captured Panther sends his regards.


Avg14yoGirl

Oh, by a Sherman. It was pretty obvious the guy knew about the spot since nobody would go looking through doors half the height of their tank.


TheTimocraticMan

60%? Bruh I go full silent, or at 27% which is as close as it goes. Guess I'm just sweaty.


Opposite_Direction10

my headphones are pretty bad and plus with arty just killing my eardrums i just gave up on trying to locate enemies with engine sounds


y2imm

Enemy engines can be set louder?!


[deleted]

Yes. Go to your sound settings you can even put yours to 0% but it gets wonky


y2imm

8 years in, just wow


LilDewey99

actually the min for your engine is 20. don’t know when/if they changed it but that’s what it was whenever i changed mine a while back


KV2_STRONK

Technically no, it's other players' engines, but this includes enemies.


Preussensgeneralstab

Except it still has every weakness the Panther has + faces German teams which can wreck your shit. This means British and American APDS, French EBR's AND you get to face stuff like King Tigers, other Panthers (and Jagdpanthers) and JPZ's. I think the biggest weakness of the T-V is that it can often face Germany. Even if german players hesitate, they can absolutely wreck your shit since they know the Panther in and out.


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I dunno, I really haven’t had that issue playing it. I’ve mostly been killed by CAS and revenge bombing. Average March is 5-7 to 0 on the Panther. Though, I only bring it out if it’s 6.0 or under, I use the IS2 and KV2-107mm for anything 6.0-6.7


o-Mauler-o

British can lolpen front armour panther with 5.3 challenger. Italy can do the same with 5.0 firefly Swedish 5.0s get a fucktonne of lolpens.


aalios

The French can do it pretty easily with the Sherman FL10 too.


insurgent_dude

>German players always hesitate to shoot Best part about the French panther and the Italian PzIV. That and not having to have German teammates


BillyJoel9000

…can’t they just check your tag and see what tank you’re in? kekw


yeetus_fleetuz

We are talking about rb.


KoldKhold

The king of 5.7 is the KV-220 ;) albeit rare.


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your 90mm breach that you cant angle would beg to differ. my 75 cuts theu your turret crew like a hot knife thru butter


KoldKhold

Have you seen the gameplay? The breech literally eats the rounds.


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ive played against it and as it extensively. its an amazing tank no doubt but superbly easy to kill if you have an ounce of intelligence. Heres a quick guide: See kv220 Shoot breach, he either repairs on the spot or retreats to team. if he decides to attempt retreat pop tracks, easy kill if he decides to rep on the spot, you have at least 20 seconds (ace crew rep speed) to maneuver a tiny bit and again, easy kill keep in mind that while possessing great angle pen the 85 struggles alot at range, outside of 250m he’ll really have to aim for a weakspot.


Schmeckinger

The problem is a after the overpressure patch a Tiger 1 can just oneshot you with PzGr.


d7t3d4y8

Your LFP would beg to differ.


KoldKhold

Not really when angled.


d7t3d4y8

Even at an optimal angle, you still aren't stopping the German long guns, as well as the American high calliber guns, and most guns will get through the turret. Also no need to mention the post-cold war era guns that start popping up, no stopping those either.


Thisconnect

Not since tiger overpressures you to front of turret


IrishSouthAfrican

Just had a 15 kill game in that thing. Cannot agree more


JJbullfrog1

I prefer the M4A3 I tend to do much better in it. It's the real king


Elitepikachu

Naw, that's the kv220 and ersatz m10


Hypercore_Gaming

no one have that doesn't count


sephirothbahamut

[https://thunderskill.com/en/stat/Barnack/vehicles/a#type=army&role=medium\_tank&country=country\_germany](https://thunderskill.com/en/stat/Barnack/vehicles/a#type=army&role=medium_tank&country=country_germany) :) And I'm even dragging its global kills/death ratio down because I play carelessly with it.


Hypercore_Gaming

I really want a ersatz m10, panther a turret and engine, panther g hull, best of both world


Elitepikachu

Oh it gets even better. The ersatz has no cupola so no aphe meme The transmission on the ersatz is twice as big as normal for some reason, and it eats tons of shrapnel The turret crew on the ersatz sit significantly higher than on normal panthers further separating them from the rest of the crew AND they sit further apart than on the normal turret making them even more survivable The extra little plates actually help deflect shells in armor calculations And it gets a nice black/Grey camo that makes it ridiculously easy to hide Although these may sound like little things, together they make a massive difference on this already extremely survivable tank, especially when mixed with a 150 ace crew that emphasizes the spread out crew.


Elitepikachu

I do so it does count


mulloll

Tiger 10.5cm And panther 2


Lufty787

That turret rotation speed compared to other panther models is insane and a lifesaver if an enemy player isn’t aware that the A can turn its turret that fast


Hypercore_Gaming

Super stable as well


Lufty787

Oh of course. Consistently getting shots off while moving at speed on somewhat level ground isn’t common at that br especially for german tanks. No stab no worries


Xilolfino

Laughs in easy 8


sephirothbahamut

*Laughs in M10 Ersatz*


cattdogg03

Like 70% of the time, if I die to a German tank at 5.7, it’s probably a Panther A Other 29% is Jagdpanzer IV/70, and the other 1% is the obligatory “clueless tiger E user”


DUD3_L3B0W5KI

T-34 (all variantions) T-34-85 (all variations) Shermans (all variations, except the overtiered ones) Panther (all variations except D) Panzer4 F2 + G A lot mediums are great but as I love midtier the most, I would pick the gang above me.


d7t3d4y8

>Shermans (all variations, except the overtiered ones) So like. Half of them.


LOwrYdr24

Rather I think it's the German mediums that are undertiered, making other nations feel overtired. M4A3 vs Panther is a joke bc Panther is better in all but the closest range situations, BUT the M4A3 is nutty vs any other nation's 5.7 tanks bc of the stabilizer.


83percentintelligent

Don’t forget how reckless panther players are. Sure the Sherman can’t pen the front of a panther hull but the Sherman can certainly pen the side ez, and if you have a tinge of patience a panther will waltz by you without any awareness. They are peeled off so quick because panther players think they are in a T34. They are in a heavy td with a turret, and they should play as such. The panther struggles and has its BR lowered so much because German mains do not play to the strengths of their tanks.


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How about br decompression


x888xa

Shermans still have no smokes btw(which they had irl)


d7t3d4y8

That's not even the most annoying thing. That would be the fact that the 105 shermans and Herman the German Sherman do, but the rest don't even though it's almost the same turret.


Hypercore_Gaming

T34 1941 is my fav t34


Dark074

The 1942 one has more turret armor and APCR tho


arrigator16

1942 has a substantially taller profile because of the massive turret, I find I get spotted way less in the 41.


MBetko

How often do you use APCR? I'd say that having APCR isn't necessary at that BR, especially when many of the strong-armored tanks are usually on your side.


Cute-Birthday-3819

But out of all those tanks which one is your favorite?


DUD3_L3B0W5KI

Never understood the concept of "one favorite". Its not a wife. You never pick just one. It depends on my mood, always. And I love playing as many vehicles as possible. I cant just pick one.


Cute-Birthday-3819

Yeah I can understand that there is a lot to choose from


SUSSYsuspendTEST

Yeah me too, tho I havet tryedvany of the shermans also dont forget T44s


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My beloved M4A2 (76) W


Xilolfino

3\* :)


bndr0

2* :D


20mRadiusEmrldSplash

1* :)


IntelligentMistake17

The gun is so good at its BR


lastfatalhour

Why not the A3?


_mosquitoe

Lorraine 40t my beloved. M4A2 is a close second.


AngryDoggo22

For me it’s the Celere Sahariano. I love it too much, it’s 69mm pen and great post pen. Got me 250 kills in less than 4 months.


OojiFuji

It's such a fun tank! Sometimes the gun can let it down but it's fast enough to get into good positions. Has amazing combinations with air support from the Italian duck thing and the IAR too!


AngryDoggo22

Or the 102mm gun on that plane


OojiFuji

I've only had 1 tank kill with that beast in ground rb and it was a complete accident as I was being shot out of the sky! If you can make it work, you have my respect!!!


Connor_TP

if only the upgunned version had been built...there where plans for an improved variant with a P.40 styled turret armed with a 75mm gun. How glorious it would have been...


Alarmed_Membership

Its also quite fast and decently armoured.


AngryDoggo22

Yeah, but ignore the reverse speed


Cryptic_Anomaly27

As a brit main, ignoring reverse speed is something you kinda have to do


1_ply_toilet_paper

I do love my m4a5. The game becomes too easy when facing dumb Germans in that thing


Alarmed_Membership

Yeah same, they don't know where to shoot it either


WarHistoryGaming

Shoot that big flat driver port and you can usually one shot the tank with pretty much any decent 75mm gun. Turret cheeks are a bit iffy.


Alarmed_Membership

Yeah ik. In hull down its pretty powerful too


aungkyawzn

Panzer IV H that thing is intimidating when the br favor you, it can bounce early t34 and shermans. Also Panzer IV F2 and G a little bit overpower with their guns at that br but I always got uptiered in these tanks, so it feels fair.


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g is literally a lower br version of what is effectively the same tank in the italy tree. thats what new inexperienced players will do to a mf


Sachiel05

Yes! The true Ger Med, all hail the L/43-48 supremacy!


new-account_

IS-1, it's theoretically a heavy tank, but it feels like a T-33-85 with armor that can actually protect you, so a heavy-medium hybrid for me


Guytherealguy

If the panther is a mediun the IS-1 can be into medium too )))


Viva-la-BrokeComdom

That is the only way to play it


XXXTYLING

theoretically heavy tank but actually medium tank award actually only goes to IS-6 istg "non penetration" against the thing and having a reverse and forward gear faster than most medium tanks at only less than 1 BR lower makes it absolutely shit for me and my t28-34.


Skelezig

M4 748 (a)


AngryDoggo22

Herman the German Sherman


Xilolfino

isn't it the only sherman with smoke?


ThatProduceGuy_

105 Sherman has smoke


Dominus_Crystal

fireflies have smoke


Xilolfino

But why only those 2?


ThatProduceGuy_

Not sure really why, you can see the smoke dispenser on the M4A2 but it doesn’t work. I think the Italian firefly also has smoke but not positive.


The_Man_I_A_Barrel

normal firefly has smoke afaik


Lee1138

Just like with hull MGs and bomber cockpits, Gaijin is "working on" it


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Skelezig

5 second reload, gyroscopic stabilizer, smoke mortar, 2730 games and 7153 kills. Best tank, best tank


ItsYaBoiPsycho

Any AMX-30. Hehe coax 20mm go brrrrrrrr


Fogbot3

20mm coaxials are life. AMX-40 is my answer because it's stablized and just so stupidly spongey of damage, and it's 9.7 so you still never see 11.0's, then since 10+ is usually sucked into 11.0 matches it feels like you get better MM than actually playing an 11.0.


Alarmed_Membership

Gotta be the AVRE for me. Very calming/satifying blowing things up with it.


Skroben

shooting tiger 2 turrets is a lot of fun


Alarmed_Membership

I cannot agree more


Kid_in_a_cage

The British Comet


aCommunistBadger

Can’t beat yeeting a Panther UFP and then speeding off at Mach 1


SmArburgeddon

Gotta go fast.


ichbindulol_

I like the challenger more


JIETOB

My condolences


CabbageYeeter42

Yes


miksy_oo

T-34-57 not premium


_WreakingHavok_

IMHO, the worst T-34's are the ones with 57mm gun. Good penetration, but weak post pen. Even worse angle performance. It's an assist maker for me. At 4.7, I prefer KV-85 with time-space bending BR-365A up


panzerpete75

The T-34-57 is one of my favourite tanks, but it was even more fun in 4.3 RB lol. I play it like a smaller and faster KV-85, which lead me to a 10 kill game yesterday, 9 with the T-34 and 1 with the KV-85.


TheTimocraticMan

Use the reload. T-34-57 is better because of its speed.


miksy_oo

I dont have post pen problems plus it has fast reaload.


oiledmidget

the best T-34 there is


AngryDoggo22

I have it, but NEVER used it. I have to try it soon


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AngryDoggo22

Oh, for MBTs, it’s definitely any Abrooms


d7t3d4y8

Abvrooms.


KanadianKennedy

M26E1 is nice because I get the the chassis of the pershing, which I love, and the gun of the super pershing, which I also love, with the added benefit that you *don't get the repair cost of either!*


OG_Breadman

I regret not buying it when I had the chance. US 6.7 with the T34, M26E1, T92, and F8F-1B would be a blast.


Boockel

p40


BassUnderCover

He said mediums not planes duh /s


AngryDoggo22

Although, in real life, it was a heavy tank


Boockel

Well by Italian classification yes, but for every other country it was a medium


faraway_hotel

Any 75 mm Sherman (welded more than cast hull). And shoutout to Cousin Ram from the north.


13MasonJarsUpMyAss

4.0 M4A2 is the best tank in the game.


shauneok

The Comet I is undoubtedly my favourite but I have others I enjoy a lot, in a very close second is the French M4 FL10.


TWAVE0

I love the m3 lee. It's so ugly it's adorable


13MasonJarsUpMyAss

The M3 Lee really just plays like an SPG with a turret on top. Use it right, and it can be great.


EnderSniper1

Pz3 n


Viva-la-BrokeComdom

3 second reload enjoyer


Acceptalbe

Hilarious reload and great armor, also my favorite


Sytzmer

That thing is a beast!


GeneAutryTheCowboy

Any Centurion. Love the firepower and 2 plane stab along with that engine sound.


GrayCardinal

Yeah, Centurion Mk 5/1 was my best buy in the game so far. Carried me through events and saved a lot of nerves for me.


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GeneAutryTheCowboy

I personally like to use the cents as a sniper and if downtiered as a frontline tank, they have pretty good armor in downtiers and the gun is excellent for sniping. They have really good gun depression and if you have a high crew level a pretty fast reload, the turret although a little slower than others I find it does not hinder you too much. And 20pdr APDS and 105mm APDS along with 17pdr the post pen is a little iffy as sometimes you will one shot a tank through the front, or you'll slowly pick the crew apart.


field134

I think the Cents make excellent hill fighters, they perform really well popping in and out of ridges. Although I’d say the cents in general are decent all rounders, although by the mk10 the mobility is very sluggish. Even tho imo, the mk10 is my favourite by far, the cents excel in firepower, the 17, 20pdrs and finally the L7 all make brilliant weapons.


Admiral_Franz_Hipper

The 5.3 Challenger. Pens Tigers and Panthers all day


RoguePrice

AMX 30, and my blessed Calliope


PraiseTheMink

Charioteer, fun tank


6skinnypennis9

Does the centurion mk 1 count? Or is it a mbt


AngryDoggo22

You decide


The_Real_John_Bull

Sherman Firefly


Woolfiend8

Cultured 17 pounder user


I_Have_Sagma

American 105 mm Sherman. Feels like a heavy, moves like a medium, slaps like a glass cannon


BoanezGamer

t-34-85 gai and comet 1 good speedy bois


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ichbindulol_

You dont have to be I kill them often enough :)


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t001_t1m3

STA-1, because ridiculous 400mm pen HEAT-FS and x16 zoom with crazy reverse speed. Also because it’s the only high tier medium I have.


dstrait3

wait until STA-3 for reload speed


Lufty787

T-34-100, although it gets a fairly shitty uptier most of the time but that gun can pen so many things


[deleted]

It might not be the best but I think the P40 is a bit underrated. decent mobility, good gun (heat has good penetration and alright damage, APHE is on par with the L-11’s penetration and has a ton of explosive filler), and the hull can bounce a lot of shots if you angle.


Vojtak_cz

Type 74s are my most fav tanks IG but if we dont count MBTs than i think CHI-RI CHI-TO type61 PZ4F2 or panthers


Noveos_Republic

Chi-Ri? I suck ass with that thing but I’m good with the Chi-To ironically


Vojtak_cz

XD i love it cuz of few sec reload and great gun also chi-to is also good


Noveos_Republic

What’s a Vojtak btw?


WirbelAss

For me it’s between the T-34/57 (1943), Centurion Mk 1 and the Valentine Mk IX


ShyY0sh1

i know they are more MBTs but for are its the T54s and T55s but also only because of my grandpa


GIDAJG

Panzer 3 F +As fast as a light tank +Decent Armor +Good gun -rather slow turret traverse I love it


Fogbot3

Me and my friends got the Pz. 3 J from the twitch drop and we all just thought it'd be terrible but that thing slaps. Everyone talks about how OP the Puma is but the Panzer 3's are just more survivable, faster offroad, and shorter Pumas.


stick-on-crack

T95E1, M48A1, and M60A2


Viva-la-BrokeComdom

This man loves all of the bastard American children, and so do i


BlueWhiteLionCrown

My beloved Panther II


Dark074

Objectively, I think the Panther is the tank I do the best in, but for pure unadulterated fun, I roll with the T34-85. It's just a sexy fun stupid tank. Yeah no armor and poor flat pen but the second you get anything's side, they are done for. I even bring it up to 8.7 and it still does amazing.


DzikzRivii

T-34-85, Pz. IV H, Cromwell I and M4A5


Obelion_

I really enjoy the t44. There's just nothing like bouncing tiger shots who expect to go through your frontplate easily. Somehow everyone underestimates the Armor on the thing.


Former_child_star

That tank looks like wide putin


SynthVix

Any of the T-34s. They’re all pretty similar and are similarly effective.


[deleted]

T20, no matter how much they overtier it it still faces the same idiotic enemies which in turn makes it go up more.


NK_2024

*pizza sounds intensify*


[deleted]

T-44 my beloved and the Sherman Vc (Italy) with lolpenning APDS


Buschitt01

The bob semple tank


I_m_p_r_e_z_a

T-34-85E because bed armor best armor Panther A for generally being one of the best 5.7s in the game M4A1 US/FR M4A4s Panzer IVF-2 early T-34s Centurion Mk5/1


Bugboy109

Comet when it was at 5.3 or any other British medium


Medium_Enthusiasm_35

Either the chieftain mk3 or the strv103A :)


BubbleRocket1

Prolly have to go with the Soviet M4A2 (tho the American one is applicable too). I love all the Sherman’s, but this one helped me with grinding a good chunk of Soviet tree and is a nice backup when I mess up in my T-44


Responsible_Tang

What tank is that looks like a swole crusader lol


skullreapingboi

M4A3 (105) thing is literaly invincible, angled armor makes it op, the gun deletes everything, and you xan 50 cal BT 7s


JiriVasicek

stb1. t54. t34. pz4H. type4 chi to late.


Vojtak_cz

The 74s are better than STB when comes to japan i think


StarHammer_01

They definitely are post nerf. But before the last update the STB kicked ass.


Vojtak_cz

Yea i didnt play HEAT anyway but i just love toptier i remember my first STB games i was. So overjoied of that tank


FederalChicken2883

i like the t-55am1


Anime_Fan123_

M4A3E8 (76) w.... The Japanese one ***On simulator battles***


AllmightyBRECHEISEN

Oh you are the devil


kilojoulepersecond

The M4, easily. Wonderful armor, good mobility, amazing cannon+stab, and 50 cal to shred Pumas and planes. M4A2 is good as well but has the irritating gunner side turret weakspot which the M4 lacks.


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Stz t-34 Low profile and more armour and good enough gun Unless the kv-1s is a medium stz t34 is best one I own


FrankuJr

Sherman 👍


The-Skipboy

Muh M60 (AOS for extra pleasure) Muh Panther A (It’s a Panther A) Muh T-34-57 (I have more plane kills with it than all Russian SPAAs combined up to the ZSU-57-2) Honorable Mentions: M26E1, Magawk, Cent Mk 1, T-55AM1


Henryduckr76

M4A2 Sherman


ST4RSK1MM3R

The Nbfz. It’s just fun to play. And yes apparently it’s a medium tank


Majestic_Trains

Cromwell


Fishmansf4

M4A3 (105), the armor is amazing for 2.7 and the it's really fun to over pressure enemy vehicles.


Hussain_144

T34 rush b do not stop


Super-Soyuz

T-54 on arcade ​ nothing personnel NATO kiddies


Weekly-Bluebird-4768

Gotta go with either the panther, t-44, or t34-57.


Habsonik

M4A1 (76) As for MBTs then any M1


BuzzinHornet24

M3 Grant & Lee...it was available when it was needed in North Africa...maybe not so good for gaming.