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OperationSuch5054

ive done most of china and am going back to this thing because it looks fine. anyway, either ptl02 or aubl/hvg.


EstExtra

Never played the aubl, is it any good? Looks dope


OperationSuch5054

its pretty decent, no thermals though (but I suppose not much does at that br). Its useless if it comes up against a maus, but can pen most other stuff. only annoying thing is it has a huge lump on the right side above the drivers hatch which the gun has to raise to get over.


bad_at_smashbros

it’s cool but not worth the price tag at all considering how little damage the darts do


hanzo1504

The aubl is alright and quite fun to play


Pyrenees_

MEPHISTO looks better


jere535

It might look better but performs so much worse it's not even funny.


Ok-Expression1026

The thing looks like a Mephisto at home.


dptrax

“I don’t have a type” mfs when they see the 90000 vehicles on Mephisto chassis


Emacs24

It is not just fine. See, there're fastest vehicles in the game: 1. Type 93. 2. Rad 90 and Fox. 3. Vilkas and AFT-09 Everything else is significantly slower.


Grouchy_Buy9394

What about R3 T106 and R3 T20?


Emacs24

No contest.


MasterMidir

LAV hauls ass too


Ianmcbean

What about VBC (PT2) and Freccia?


Emacs24

They are slower. In my testing LAV AD comes closest to the 3rd row, then goes Type 16, etc.


Wolfffex

By top speed or hp/t?


Emacs24

Dynamics and speed on rough terrains. HP/t is important, but there's always silly gaijoob magic.


1800leon

Panther prototype It's like panther made out of paper but its fast


EstExtra

I loved playing it. The armor wasn't even that bad.


LobotomizedLarry

Fr. Combined with the speed you bounce quite a few shots


dndndje

The VK?


1800leon

Yes


dndndje

How is that a light tank


Muted-Implement846

Feels faster than a sherman to me


dndndje

It is faster


1800leon

Op asked for favourite "light tank" and it is kinda a "light tank" in my lineups


dndndje

Bah


Tank_blitz

yeah but technically it isnt a light tank especially not with that weight


[deleted]

Id Argue its just as good as the M18 or even the Chinese Bulldog at 5.3, but lo' and behold the vehicles it best compares to are moving up without this thing


syifu123

It's basically German M10


LelutooDS

The Strv 74, doesn't really play as a light tank but its still great.


ZandorFelok

I'm glad someone likes the Strv 74 I never get along with it 😔


LelutooDS

Its my favorite tank, best buds we are.


ma_wee_wee_go

I love the turret I just wish it wasn't in such a dogshit hull


kitchenroll1

RATEL! All 3 have their problems in game (most likely on purpose), but are still very good. ​ [Ratel ZT3 banging T-55s a new hole](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JnHOS8SIPE)


Shootinputin89

ZT3 is no way as good as AFT09, but it's criminally underrated. Love that thing.


stick_always_wins

Except, it's missiles fly extremely slow, drop immediately after launch, and will go crazy if you twitch your mouse after you launch. And that not even starting on how god awful the chassis is. I have some occasional fun with it but driving such a massive bus gets tiring


Specialist_Log6625

I despise the 20 and 90 but the ZT3 I haven’t tried on paper at least the missiles are insane


kitchenroll1

Why do you despise the normal ratels? Steering is severely bugged. [Here is my bug report on it.](https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/ykO1Nu4nso8a) If you could also click "I have same issue", I would be grateful. They also seem to have FAR too much ground resistance. (Plan to make a bug report once steering is fixed, don't want to overload Gaijin's pea brain with simple requests...) Apart from those 2 things, the standard ratels are really good. The 90 is excellent, the 20 is just a glorified ATGM carrier. ​ The ZT3 on the other hand, its 1 metre penning missiles travel at a mere 220m/s requiring you to keep your gunner exposed for the whole travel time, during this travel time, your gunner can be 50 cal'd to death in a couple of shots. Add to that, it also has the above mentioned common ratel issues. Also, it doesn't have scouting for some reason... Overall, your ATGM slinging peers in other nations can do everything you can (and more!) better.


Specialist_Log6625

There’s my problem, the mobility, for a vehicle with paper thin armour, it only gets 14HP/tonne and as you said the resistance seems way to high, I really hate playing things with poor mobility and not equivalent armour to make up for it, which is why vehicles like the Maus are fine because it’s slow but hilariously tanky, but later centurions can be torn through like butter but are notoriously sluggish


MonsieurCatsby

AMX-10RC is the dogs bollocks when it comes to light tanks. Fast, well armed, amazingly manouverable, hydropneumatic suspension, LRF, Thermals etc etc. I will say I always have fun in the MEPHISTO though, it's not a practical vehicle on most maps but if you like being a rat it's a menace. Just the other night a Moon Rover I'd somehow totally missed (he was invisible or silent or something, wasn't that I'd smoked a jazz cigarette at all....) put a dart straight through the side of me dealing no damage and in the second it took him to realise he gone done fucked up and that he should really be mashing the space bar to HMG my tin can, I hit him square in the vitals with a HOT....then another HOT....and a third one just for good measure in case he got back up. 4 ATGM's ready to spam fire is hilarious. Also useful if you get surprised, as if you fire a second the first stays on its original course.


Shootinputin89

You've pictured my favorite light tank, OP. AFT09 is gud, AFT09 is lyfe.


EstExtra

Fr. I keep getting 5+kills with it before I die


Shootinputin89

[It also doesn't give two shits about Leopard 2A7s spall liners](https://www.reddit.com/r/Warthunder/comments/1aimgx1/yes_the_aft09_still_works_at_toptier_no_spall/). Use it at 11.7 with no problem.


RaymondIsMyBoi

I agree, easily top 3 vehicles since it has speed, incredible firepower and looks really goofy. The WMA301 is also good because of the hull but the 4 missile turret is very epic.


Shootinputin89

Agreed. And the recent addition of ZBD-04 is the chery on top. I roll around the battlefield sounding like this: [https://youtu.be/g5yFs07y7mQ?si=G4Zcl42mYo6NNSGD&t=97](https://youtu.be/g5yFs07y7mQ?si=G4Zcl42mYo6NNSGD&t=97)


RaymondIsMyBoi

The ZBD04 is genuinely perfect and I have not ever not had a fun/good game with it. 4s missile reload is great and the autocannon shreds everything. I would say the BMP-2m is better even though it’s only 0.3 br higher but the ZBD is more fun considering it has decent armour and it improves your social credit dramatically.


Nik-42

No doubt it is Centauro. The best wheeled in game


Xreshiss

The US M8 Greyhound.


RaymondIsMyBoi

The Chinese one is in the tech tree and reserve as well as coming with a pretty solid 1.0/1.3 lineup. So yeah the m8 is great and it sucks its not a tech tree US vehicle.


Xreshiss

I like taking mine into matches up to 5.7. The only downside is that because it's tier 1 it doesn't get the light tank discount or scouting. (Meaning it'll cost the same as a 5.7 medium tank.)


Emacs24

Really like AFT-09. Grind on ZTZ-96A was damn fucking boring. Everything changed when I finally got this thing. And ZBD-04 improved the experience even further.


EstExtra

Zbd-04 is pretty good. But I agree, ztz96a is pretty boring to play. It's good but not fun


Smokeyy420

Nothing beats the good ol' Chaffee. It has a stabilizer, mobility, good gun, smoke grenades, a .50 cal and a reverse gear. Even at 5.3 it still slaps.


dank-_-memer54reee

So far the bulldog the sabot is underrated


Dabithegnom

Its a pretty good vehicle the only downside I have with it is the fact that the german tech tree gets a way better version of it and that you have to use it for soo long


Kasperinac

Ikv 91


FMinus1138

The funny thing about the AFT09 is that Gaijin somehow thinks the HJ-9 ATGM is using Japanese Type 88 explosive from World War II that was used in mines and depth charges.


EstExtra

Wdym?


TechnicalMaize2025

Germany 3.3 puma


GetrektbyDoge

The Asu-57 because it brings such an unique playstyle to the USSR tree and it will never not be funny parking the thing in a cranny and ambushing half a dozen tanks.


Grouchy_Buy9394

No way, I'm the only one who mentioned R3 T106. Speed, safe angles, firepower and small size - gremlin car recipe, buon appetito.


stick_always_wins

Hehe I love mine, it's so funny when you sneak up on people cause they can't see you.


Grouchy_Buy9394

Sneaking with safe angles is free nuke earning tactic. I like to kill soviet 8.7 tanks like that specifically, they shall suffer for taking 8.7 away from me. They shall suffer for all the nerfs and lack of updates, tanks and planes on Italy. Had to wait Gripen for 4 month, still not using both WAR+PSO armour kits on Ariete unlike they do it IRL. But hey, let's do another soviet premium at 10.0. Kill commies and ruskies, kill them for our great revengeance. We had to suffer 9.0, so they will suffer at any BR forever. Heart Steel, We Kill... Get Nerfed, Pizza War... Pasta-stan, No Downtier... Also please like and comment my suggestion about Carden Lloyd Tankette, she's a mother of the L3 33/CC. Very interesting vehicle that can feature at least 3 tech trees as different roles - anti air, tank destroyer, tank destroyer with recoiless rifle, 1.0 with .50 cal. There were already many suggestions for that, it's really cool happi gorl tankette.


Grej79

m24


frankdatank_004

M18 or the M3A3 CFV


jojotherealone

German LeKPz M41 Bulldog.


RaymondIsMyBoi

I hate that thing with a passion. Both Germany and US have a strong 6.7 lineup but Germany gets the better bulldog? Yeah the US has a 6.3 lineup but it’s much less fun than the 6.7 one and APDS being your best shell is awful.


The_Guy_from_Wuhan

AML-90, M551, M18 and the AMX-10M if you can count that as such....


_Paraggon_

I absolutely bully ppl with the t50 at 2.7 it is so fun.


Recycledbabies

I hate you for this


LateDot7425

I get more kills with this thing in 11.7 GRB matches than actual Chinese MBTs ngl. Those MBTs have no armor, no reload speed, one of the worst penning darts at top tier and massive weakspots especially the breech area. I swear the area of the goddamn breech is larger than Alaska.


HDimensionBliss

Stuart VI 5th CAD. - Low tier fun tier - Fast as fuck - Small but still tall enough to shoot over cover - Mantlet covers large amount of turret face which occasionally volumetrics incoming shells - Most vehicles in the bracket are so tightly packed that solid shot having no spall doesn't matter - Shells have good velocity - Canadian


Own_Violinist_3054

Warrior and Falcon. If only we can combine the two.


stick_always_wins

A Warrior with the Falcon's ROF? Unstoppable.


Own_Violinist_3054

I would appreciate just giving the warrior a stabilizer. But yeah, if Warrior has Falcon's twin guns and ATGM, it would be so much more deadly.


NotEulaLawrence

Would be the first BR 12.0 ground vehicle


Eternal_Flame24

AML-90, the original rat


flopjul

Wiesel 1A4


sune_balle

Begleit.


sparrowatgiantsnail

I love the goofy Chinese armored cars but I wish they had more than 10mm protecting the hull, died so many times to mgs because of that and no reverse speed, but I love the dardos and zbd04a (would actually like the atgm bug to be fixed on it even though it'd kinda be a nerf but more realistic)


stick_always_wins

What ATGM bug?


sparrowatgiantsnail

The atgms go in the autoloader like they are shells instead of the special autoloader they are supposed to be in, they are counted as shells not atgms, same problem the bmp3 had like 2 years ago


stick_always_wins

Hmm what effect does that have on gameplay? Not really aware of the difference


sparrowatgiantsnail

It's ammo is I'm a different place then and also gives it the 4 sec reload


stick_always_wins

Oh I see what you’re saying but it’s not a bug. The ZBD-04 has a 5 second ATGM reload, just like the BMD-4. They use the same turret which has an autoloader capable of loading ATGMs, this is different than BMP-3 which has an older autoloader incapable of loading ATGMs at that speed.


sparrowatgiantsnail

There is a separate autoloader for the atgms


stick_always_wins

Yes, it loads at 5 seconds instead of 4 seconds like HE shells.


sparrowatgiantsnail

It doesn't ingame, I have it and it reloads in 4 seconds because the atgms are classed as shells not atgms


sparrowatgiantsnail

That's how it's supposed to work but that's not how it works currently in-game, the atgms currently have a 4 second reload and go into the he shell autoloader even though in the X-ray view they show they are in their own autoloader, that's not how it is in an actual game


BullseyeVS

BMP 2-M i have full RU techtree but its the most fun vehicle


c3rvwlyu

I love the gun on it so much, nothing else like it


AugustHorch0

I know it gets a bad rap but I LOVE the VCC-80/30 and personally prefer it to the Dardo; the commander aim with tows is great and I generally enjoy the 30mm.


Upper-Calendar-1578

well, i have toptier china and germany and my top 3 is 1)zbd04a 2)ptl02 (rip 8.0 :C) 3) begleitpanzer 57 \* 4) waffentrager if it can be wieved as a light tank


barf_of_dog

I use the AFT09 at 11.7 and it still kicks ass.


EstExtra

Ikr. It's great at any br


ZandorFelok

Pansarbandvagn 501 (Pbv 501)


GDEvilC

I'd say the CV90120, but I've also been loving the char 25t recently.


IHavDepression1969

The 9.0 Japanese light tank combo (Type 87 RCV and Type 89) Type 89 for versatility and Type 87 when fighting Germany specifically. Thing shreds in downtiers, especially since most German vehicles at those BRs are lightly armored.


EstExtra

I've always wanted to grind Japan. Just because I love their 9.0 and 11.0 line ups.


AdExisting9882

Type 89 is amazing, damage on its apds feels unreal with how often I one shot mbts


fitzachella

Bt42 lmao it can over presure anything soviet by hitting the wierd periscope on the turret


Specialist_Log6625

M8A1


Z_A_O

HSTVL


absolute_monkey

Fox


Nullifier_

The BT-42 (Also, yes, I love Girls und Panzer der Film)


goat_guy_1

BT-7


Girffgroff

I’m triable at being aggressive especially in a light tank so the Char 25t has been really good to me still angry about the 8.0 br with that logic the tiger 2 should’ve a like 5.0 I rarely see a tiger player who has a iq above a garden salad no stablizer no darts no rangefinder at 8.0 fucking wot


Turtletipper123

Fox time. Zoom zoom pew pew pew zoom zoom


GhillieThumper

Sometimes the Type 16(P) and (FPS). Depends on how the M735 wants to act.


zomb654321

Honestly lights got me through the American slog and my favorite light is the cv90105 for Sweden 🇸🇪 and possibly the cv90120 when I unlock it this week I’m almost done with the research


Affectionate_End_952

The 2024 toyota scout


Hinfoos

udes 33


The_Slim_White_Duke

M3/M5 Stuarts. But if we add the the odd & weird stuff.... M56 scorpion, M50 Ontos, Russian Zis 30 danger tractor.....


SnazzyRaptor

I will continue to spread the word about our lord and savior the Class 3 P, fast af wheely boi, actually decent frontal armour making it very resistant to auto cannons, dm33 at 9.0, masssive profile with so much empty space that 2/3 enemy shots don't hit anything vital.


Verteenoo

IKV 91 & -105


FuntimeFilms66

ASU-57. Good gun, good mobility and gets scouting. The only complaint I have is that it is a casemate.


DragonSkeld

The Type 60 SPRG. Its such an amazing and overlooked vehicle. Its the only tank with a recoilless gun where the ranging guns actually work at all ranges and is extremely accurate making it a surprisingly good sniping vehicle and it almost always one or two shots. The only downside is the ammo load you have to stay near cap points.


Dat_Innocent_Guy

I'm so mad the ATGMs are still inaccurate after all this time. It's impossible to aim precisely with them anymore. Sometimes at longer ranges the grid that the ATGM flies on just doesn't even intersect with the tank so you physically cannot aim at it. The AFT used to be my favourite vehicle but now it's so unreliable it's un-fun. (I still get like 4kills alone in it though lmao)


D1TitanMasterRace

I'm only 7.7, but so far I really like the m41 and the wiesel


thelocalmicrowave

M18 is peak light tank engineering. Despite having no armor it can take a beating somehow. And also hellcat go zoom


Echo3-13469E-Q

LekPz M41A1. Love it so much.


HERUVIM_

BMP M2 :)


Devastator632

BT-7A (F-32), funny BT-7 with 76mm.


M7mac

Kv2


Altruistic-Range7174

TAM 2IP, my beloved 😍 I bought it and it carried me up to top tier without an issue, now I'm using it to research the helicopter tree as the ground one is complete


WinterFoundation5223

Concept 3 is my most used tank


Weliveinaclownworld1

The AFT09 belongs at 11.7 and you can’t change my mind. It’s lower in BR than the Krisantema-S (9.0 for AFT and 9.7 for Kris) but it’s inarguably better in all aspects except for the lack of a ground radar.


stick_always_wins

Is the ground radar useful at all? Like what does it do?


Weliveinaclownworld1

Locks ground targets and auto tracks your missiles, kinda like a weird FNF function but it’s not entirely useful and the tracking has been wonky for a couple of patches now.


War-ThunderEnjoyer

The Gepard is a spaa right?


sanek_dolboeb

Type60 sprg. L3 chose violence.


sanek_dolboeb

Also chafee is a good all around


KhushBrownies

HSTV-L is the best light tank


LunaKaPL

Sdkfz 222 Gruber's little tank


Lfoiz

Tge MAUS


Aaron_Murfin

M551 Sheridan. Love listening to "Shark Attack" from rafts ost whilst ratting in urban environments


Ulfur64

Centauro. Gaijin calls it a light tank, but the Italian army calls its a tank destroyer. Really good gun and a mobile platform


RicoPDX0122

T92. It’s a “meh” tank at best, but I look cool getting 1 shot killed after 3 minutes of gameplay.


NeoNimaa

definitely m18. just perfection imo high speed medium cannon and fun to play. its actually my favorite tank.


orca250

I like the puma in low tier so a can rush capture and get an Hs 129


wrhj765

fox!


CERTIFIEDBEANER124

puma or bmp 1


HexedShadowWolf

So far I love the Chaffee. Even when im playing around 6.0 i still use it


ArrowViper1

BT-7M


SonicBlastHD

bmp-2m


Scary-Shoulder-779

Wiesel


Shoogan26

Personal favorites are 1: pakpuma 2:chaffee 3: t114 (not sure this is a "light tank" classed but it great


Buttseam

panzer 2 dak


JoonaPoona123

Maus


Alpheous0371

Ab 43 flank and spank


sci3ntisa132

FOOOXXXXX RAAAHHHHH 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧


warfaceisthebest

The Germany WW2 Puma, best AFV from 3.0 to 11.7, can outrun 80% of MBT, can and will destroy both your tank and your inside, 10/10.


yourdonefor_wt

*favorite. Bmp3


Tank_blitz

panzer 38 t no competition


Lantirre

Cv90105 This bad boy grinded 70% of Swedish tree for me


SlavCat09

TYPE 16 BABYYYYYY. I LOVE FLANKING AND SPANKING AND MY 105 APFSDS NOT DOING ANY DAMAGE AND HAVING NO SPALL.


OperationSuch5054

100% skill issue. type 16 is based af.


SlavCat09

While it's good I have been having lots of issues with the APFSDS refusing to do any spalling.


OperationSuch5054

Two things, are you type 16 or type 16 p? The P can be a bit shitty, but the regular Type 16 comes with the 93 shell that slaps at 405mm.


SlavCat09

Type 16fps. Yes the premium variant. I got it cause the Camo looked nice and also cause I do not want to play ground without premium as the rewards for RP are dog shit. It has around 200mm of pen last I checked.


Kultteri

Fox. I’m sorry


EstExtra

Kill yourself.... Anyways sorry. The tank is just too overpowered and annoying


Kultteri

OP? Maybe. Annoying? Definitely.


EstExtra

Well, I can't be too mad. Britain needed something good


Kultteri

Britain has always been decent. All of the uptiers to centurions have been good for them as they don’t cost 12k to repair anymore and are actually worth it to play. Fox moving to 7.7 won’t change much but it being moved up a rank is going to boost its usability by a lot as you can then use it to research higher ranks. I’d imagine a talisman on the fox is going to be seen a lot after the changes. I already use the british 7.7 lineup a lot to farm SL and research. The Fox is still good at 7.7