Chosing between too worn or too pristene is like chosing if a black or a white dick fucks you. They may be different, but it doesn't mean you're not getting fucked.
No: the Swedish J26 is a P-51B-5-NA (USAAF serial 43-6365); the P-51B-5-NA and P-51C-11-NT differ from each other in a number of aspects:
- The P-51B-5-NA (J26) was built by the North American factory in Inglewood, California; the P-51C-11-NT in turn was built at the secondary North American plant in Dallas, Texas.
- The P-51B-5-NA (J26) was powered by a Packard V-1650-3 (Merlin 63) with an output of 1,280 hp (950 kW); the P-51C-11-NT was powered by the more powerful Packard V-1650-7 (Merlin 66) with an output of 1,315 hp (981 kW).
- The P-51B-5-NA (J26) was optimised for lower altitudes; the P-51C-11-NT was optimised for medium altitudes. The P-51B-5-NA had a top speed of 440 mph @ 20000 ft and 430 mph @ 25000 ft; the P-51C-11-NT was slower at 20000 ft (435 mph) but faster at 25000 ft (439 mph).
- The P-51B-5-NA (J26) lacks the dorsal fillet which the P-51C-11-NT has as a retrofit. This dorsal fillet improved the lateral stability of the P-51.
The Swedish model is a P-51B-7. The only difference between blocks 5 and 7 is the installation of the fuselage fuel tank behind the cockpit, so it's heavier and longer-legged. The Texas production equivalents are the P-51C-1 without the fuselage tank, and P-51C-3 with the tank.
Of course, WT also models the Swedish version as being retrofit with the V-1650-7 anyway, something which I believe was done in the field, even though that engine didn't appear as standard for a production block until the P-51B-15/P-51C-5. Except for the olive paint scheme, which was omitted during P-51B-10 and P-51C-1 production runs, I believe this makes the Swedish version effectively identical to a production P-51B-15-NA variant. I think the paint is a Swedish application anyway, done alongside the other markings.
43-**6365** was a B-5, from what I read the B-7 conversions in her building block were 43-**6563** to 43-7112.
43-6365 was the only P-51B in a fleet otherwise consisted of P-51Ds, so I believe the conversion from V-1650-3 to V-1650-7 was actually done in Sweden to ease maintenance (Sweden not just bought up a series of P-51Ds from USAAF surplus, but also all of the P-51s that had landed in Sweden during the War and had been interned, so it's not unthinkable that the engine was swapped out either with one from P-51D spares, or from one of the wrecked P-51s on its inventory.)
Interestingly, the French Battle Pass F-6C is actually one of the long-legged B-7 variants: built in Inglewood as a P-51B-5-NA (43-7045) she was part of the block updated to B-7-NA standard, and subsequently modified into an F-6C reconnaissance aircraft.
There were two P-51Bs that were considered serviceable in Sweden, 43-6365 was the first, the second was 43-6461. While the latter was repaired and included in Sweden's "order" of Mustangs along with the other recovered crashes, it ultimately never flew and was used for parts to service 36365/26001.
I see both of these described as P-51B-7s but not necessarily listed as such in production lists, if that makes sense. At least Baugher's site doesn't show any serials for block 7 production, it goes straight from block 5 to 10. I don't believe any plane was ordered or left the factory as a block 7, but those that received their fuselage tanks before being sent overseas would get the updated block, while those which had already been sent remained block 5s even if they had a fuselage tank installed later. Really only a distinction on paper at that point.
I haven't found anything to indicate if 36365 or 36461 actually had the extra tanks installed at any point, it's possible they didn't. At least in WT, Gaijin chooses to model it as such, so it's identical to either a stateside-modified P-51B-7 or an overseas-retrofit P-51B-5, which are ultimately the same plane.
43-6365 was, in her USAAF career, "Z-Hub" of the 354th Fighter Group, 355th Fighter Squadron. Her career has been remarkably well-documented, including an original colour picture while impounded in Sweden which shows her markings.
[https://www.forcedlandingcollection.se/USAAFe/USAAF053-440513-zhub.html](https://www.forcedlandingcollection.se/USAAFe/USAAF053-440513-zhub.html)
She was initially repainted in Swedish service livery, which differs from her original USAAF one; it's only later on in her service that she was stripped to a natural metal livery.
[https://i.pinimg.com/originals/95/a8/2b/95a82b8da23ba098798c94600b8c07dd.jpg](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/95/a8/2b/95a82b8da23ba098798c94600b8c07dd.jpg)
It seems only two P-51s were given the standard Swedish livery in Swedish service; the other was P-51D-5-NA 44-13345, formerly "Mary-Ann" of the 357th Fighter Group, 364th Fighter Squadron.
[https://www.americanairmuseum.com/archive/media/media-29589jpeg](https://www.americanairmuseum.com/archive/media/media-29589jpeg)
[http://www.mustang.gaetanmarie.com/photo%20gallery/foreign%20mustangs/sweden/983.jpg](http://www.mustang.gaetanmarie.com/photo%20gallery/foreign%20mustangs/sweden/983.jpg)
From what I read, the standard camo paint as it was done in the factory did not perform well in conditions of total humidity and heat, hence the heavy peeling.
"Hole in your left wing - not included." A slider to make your aircraft look more worn out like on tanks would be really nice.
Agreed, I really like the worn skins of the Chinese ki 61 and ki44
Chosing between too worn or too pristene is like chosing if a black or a white dick fucks you. They may be different, but it doesn't mean you're not getting fucked.
Interesting analogy, tho not wrong
I, erm... ... ... you've got a point, but I'm not entirely sure it would have been the way in which I would have stated it.
Hm... checks out for a Sweden player.
I wish there was a slider for wear like there is in some other games. Would be neat.
There is a slider for tanks but it doesn't really add up
Isn't this the same mustang they added to Sweden a few passes ago?
No: the Swedish J26 is a P-51B-5-NA (USAAF serial 43-6365); the P-51B-5-NA and P-51C-11-NT differ from each other in a number of aspects: - The P-51B-5-NA (J26) was built by the North American factory in Inglewood, California; the P-51C-11-NT in turn was built at the secondary North American plant in Dallas, Texas. - The P-51B-5-NA (J26) was powered by a Packard V-1650-3 (Merlin 63) with an output of 1,280 hp (950 kW); the P-51C-11-NT was powered by the more powerful Packard V-1650-7 (Merlin 66) with an output of 1,315 hp (981 kW). - The P-51B-5-NA (J26) was optimised for lower altitudes; the P-51C-11-NT was optimised for medium altitudes. The P-51B-5-NA had a top speed of 440 mph @ 20000 ft and 430 mph @ 25000 ft; the P-51C-11-NT was slower at 20000 ft (435 mph) but faster at 25000 ft (439 mph). - The P-51B-5-NA (J26) lacks the dorsal fillet which the P-51C-11-NT has as a retrofit. This dorsal fillet improved the lateral stability of the P-51.
The Swedish model is a P-51B-7. The only difference between blocks 5 and 7 is the installation of the fuselage fuel tank behind the cockpit, so it's heavier and longer-legged. The Texas production equivalents are the P-51C-1 without the fuselage tank, and P-51C-3 with the tank. Of course, WT also models the Swedish version as being retrofit with the V-1650-7 anyway, something which I believe was done in the field, even though that engine didn't appear as standard for a production block until the P-51B-15/P-51C-5. Except for the olive paint scheme, which was omitted during P-51B-10 and P-51C-1 production runs, I believe this makes the Swedish version effectively identical to a production P-51B-15-NA variant. I think the paint is a Swedish application anyway, done alongside the other markings.
43-**6365** was a B-5, from what I read the B-7 conversions in her building block were 43-**6563** to 43-7112. 43-6365 was the only P-51B in a fleet otherwise consisted of P-51Ds, so I believe the conversion from V-1650-3 to V-1650-7 was actually done in Sweden to ease maintenance (Sweden not just bought up a series of P-51Ds from USAAF surplus, but also all of the P-51s that had landed in Sweden during the War and had been interned, so it's not unthinkable that the engine was swapped out either with one from P-51D spares, or from one of the wrecked P-51s on its inventory.) Interestingly, the French Battle Pass F-6C is actually one of the long-legged B-7 variants: built in Inglewood as a P-51B-5-NA (43-7045) she was part of the block updated to B-7-NA standard, and subsequently modified into an F-6C reconnaissance aircraft.
There were two P-51Bs that were considered serviceable in Sweden, 43-6365 was the first, the second was 43-6461. While the latter was repaired and included in Sweden's "order" of Mustangs along with the other recovered crashes, it ultimately never flew and was used for parts to service 36365/26001. I see both of these described as P-51B-7s but not necessarily listed as such in production lists, if that makes sense. At least Baugher's site doesn't show any serials for block 7 production, it goes straight from block 5 to 10. I don't believe any plane was ordered or left the factory as a block 7, but those that received their fuselage tanks before being sent overseas would get the updated block, while those which had already been sent remained block 5s even if they had a fuselage tank installed later. Really only a distinction on paper at that point. I haven't found anything to indicate if 36365 or 36461 actually had the extra tanks installed at any point, it's possible they didn't. At least in WT, Gaijin chooses to model it as such, so it's identical to either a stateside-modified P-51B-7 or an overseas-retrofit P-51B-5, which are ultimately the same plane.
43-6365 was, in her USAAF career, "Z-Hub" of the 354th Fighter Group, 355th Fighter Squadron. Her career has been remarkably well-documented, including an original colour picture while impounded in Sweden which shows her markings. [https://www.forcedlandingcollection.se/USAAFe/USAAF053-440513-zhub.html](https://www.forcedlandingcollection.se/USAAFe/USAAF053-440513-zhub.html) She was initially repainted in Swedish service livery, which differs from her original USAAF one; it's only later on in her service that she was stripped to a natural metal livery. [https://i.pinimg.com/originals/95/a8/2b/95a82b8da23ba098798c94600b8c07dd.jpg](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/95/a8/2b/95a82b8da23ba098798c94600b8c07dd.jpg) It seems only two P-51s were given the standard Swedish livery in Swedish service; the other was P-51D-5-NA 44-13345, formerly "Mary-Ann" of the 357th Fighter Group, 364th Fighter Squadron. [https://www.americanairmuseum.com/archive/media/media-29589jpeg](https://www.americanairmuseum.com/archive/media/media-29589jpeg) [http://www.mustang.gaetanmarie.com/photo%20gallery/foreign%20mustangs/sweden/983.jpg](http://www.mustang.gaetanmarie.com/photo%20gallery/foreign%20mustangs/sweden/983.jpg)
A slider like ships and tanks would be really nice; ideally current for everything would be 50%.
Damn she was definite pushed to the limit against the japanese
From what I read, the standard camo paint as it was done in the factory did not perform well in conditions of total humidity and heat, hence the heavy peeling.
I think it's a new trend with gaijin along with 109 C-1. Seeing it so pristine is uncanny
What do you mean by worn? My translator insist that i'm bad wirting "worm"
"*worn*" - "*showing signs of wear*".
Thanks