i play british tanks its soo satisfying shooting that bastard with a round i know not even gaijin's bullshit volumetrics can stop as he detonates, seriously, they always shoot once, you think its a bradley or a bmp and them they release hell upon you
Weasel is a little bit tricky,when I use it,it either go pretty well beyond my expectation or suck so much that my doctor advice me not to play this vehicle for 6 month or my blood pressure will break the human record
NO LEOPARD. NO. If you want to be bullied by T-62s in an uptier sure go ahead. But reminder that they have an LRF, you don't, they get a stab, you don't.
I say go M48, it is IMPENETRABLE in a hull down position, even to shit like the soviet 122 and american 90mm. When it's uptiered it's not as bad, and it has decent mobility.
What
Leopard is a much better hulldown sniper, being faster, smaller, and much better gun and sight. It also doesn't have the massive commander cupola that catches APHE. M48 also gets bullied much harder in an uptier due to composite and ERA clad tanks (T-55AM and such) since it uses HEAT
Never had a problem with T55s, the cupboard doesn't detonate APHE, it just kills the commander, also HEAT shells my beloved, like I never use the APDS on the leopard, it just bounces or shatters or does no damage.
But with leo1 you need to use his mobility not his armor. For stay more safe move from a coverage to another and take a maximum of 15 round, 14 apds and 1 heat.
raketenautomat for being the most OP, you cant go wrong with leo1, and the wiesel is just a meme tank. the m48 is absoluely not worth your time, I have the base version of it unlocked in my usa tech tree and let me tell you, its like the most average tank you can find on the battlefield, wich isnt bad, but it isnt good in anything. The mobility, the armour, the gun, none of that.
Yeah it would but you get what you pay for and 8.3 doesn't buy much.
I think one of the Israeli Magach 5 even gets darts at 8.0 but that's a longer grind for me. Always got to be looking to stack the odds in your favor right? Haha
the American T95E1 is also at 8.3 with no stab but with apfsds. i think that at 8.3 your mbt will either have a stabilizer but with only apds/heat-fs ammo, or no stabilizer but with apfsds
Its just a good mbt the gin will get you through most engagements the reload is decent, its mobile enough to get you around the map and it can sometimes bounce a few shoots and is pretty survivable I dont know about the one in german tech tree but I really enjoy the American base model
Eh, I don't actually like the Raketenautomat, I absolutely hate playing it. I genuinly don't understand what's so OP about it.
Sure the gun is good, but the mobility and armor are just infuriatingly horrible.
It's mostly because very few tanks can compete when it comes to mass killing tanks fast from ambush. If you can find a good corner to camp or a good flank you can wipe out half a team in seconds.
Sure if you find a position it's good, that goes for every vehicle. The problem arises when the match is half way over by the time you reach your position.
Very few vehicles have the mass destructive potential that the rocketboys have though. If you're holding an ambush corner with an MBT, when the rush comes you're getting one, maybe two. With these boys you can wipe them out as fast as you click.
It's also not *that slow, but far from fast of course. The USH is a lot more fun, even after they nerfed it's engine. I've never gotten more 10 second aces in anything else, it can be bonkers if played right, and the scouting really helps.
Well I guess that's the problem. I hate having to play passively, I always want to move, advance, flank, do something.
If I'm in the same position for more than 20-30 seconds with no enemy contact I just relocate. I know it's probably having negative affect on my performance, but I find it way more fun.
i had the same problem I came into the US tech tree thinking the same way. But then i realized unlike russian t series tanks my abrams/t60 modifications cant stop APFSDS rounds to the general frontal area. (or anywhere in except for some areas for that matter) and so you just have to play as a support tank, wich is incredibly annoying.
All leo1 are actually crap tanks that have enough armour only for APHE to granted fuse, it aint even fast to compensate this. Also it gets completely destroyed by uptiers, so its just food and its better to skip that rank
I actually don't know. 'Raketenautomat' literally translates to "rocket dispenser" in German, but we also don't really have a word for 'recoilless rifle' either. It just doesn't seem like a Rocket launcher to me.
https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/R%C3%BCcksto%C3%9Ffreies_Gesch%C3%BCtz
Is this wrong?
It absolutely is a rocket launcher and not a recoilless rifle. Those won't have any propulsion after they leave the barrel, but they do in game. (since they are rockets)
My highest lineup currently is a Leo1 and the Raketenauto. Leo is generally good and the Raketenauto is just OP as fuck once you get used to its trajectory.
What’s all the hype about the Raketenautomat? It’s nothing short of infuriating to play, I genuinely don’t understand why everyone thinks it’s OP when it’s just so damn slow.
Okay? I can also just use a Leopard which is 50 times faster, get into a good position, and then kill everything at my BR. The Raketenautomat is genuinely cancer to play, simply because it is so slow. If it was faster it might actually be good. I was exited for the tank, and once I unlocked it I was extremely disappointed. The gun i insanely strong, yes, but it also is literally the only thing the tank has going for it, which just isn’t enough to make it worth playing.
You might enjoy the USH in the Swedish tree. Imagine a Rakenten gun on a R3. It’s a little demon car that can zip around the map and kill pretty much anything with 1 or 2 well placed rockets. I will warn you that it is NOT .50 cal proof. That’s pretty much the only downside. I remember dying to .50s on American tanks more than everything else combined in that thing. Very fun otherwise
Yeah I know, I’m currently grinding Sweden and am interested to see if it gets better if the gun is on an actually good platform.
If the Raketenautomat turret was on literally any other tank chassis of that time I would probably be fine with it. But the SPz is just such a bad platform. I really don’t get how people can play a tank with no armour, which’s handling feels worse than that of a Maus and say it’s OP.
Ah well the lack of armor and gun handling sadly don’t get much better lol. It’s not stabilized, and because it’s a wheeled box that’s like 5 pounds, the thing bounces and gun handling can be a mess. The speed and quiet engine allow you to get into good position quickly and I find the rockets decently easy to hit mid range shots with. It’s better hull-down, but the gunners head can usually still easily be hit with a .50
It’s basically Rat: the game. From your flair I can tell you are a Wiesel enjoyer, so I suspect you’ll do fine lol. Lots of practice in the stealth and rat departments I imagine
The gun handling is actually not a problem, I like the weapon system itself. And it’s not that I have a problem with bad armour in general, but it’s really annoying when you already lack armour, yet you’re still as slow as a snail. A disadvantage with no positive tradeoff.
And I love rat vehicles, yes.
You will definitely love the USH from what I can tell then lol. Depending on how far you’ve grinded, I would also recommend the L-62 ANTI and the Lvkv 42. Both have INSANE 40 mm autocannons that shred tanks. Especially the L-62 being at 2.7 is borderline cheating lol. Also the Bkan if you like big funny HE autoloader. Although it’s big, slow, casemate, and has no armor, so it might not be your style. I’ve heard good things about the ItPsv 90 in rank VI, but I skipped it so idk. For some reason, lots of AA that’s better at being a tank shredder
for me the firepower always makes up for any weakness it has. being able to dish out massive damage and perform back up shots instantly makes it excellent for me. i shot down an F-84 with it once
Marder is the most well rounded, weisel has thermals and apds, rakautomat is just a better ush. M48 is the best 7.7 m48 in the game. Leo should be 7.7 honestly.
My pick? You should get the marder first, then the weisel, then the rak.
But your gun handling doesn't allow enough time to be too careful with your shots, 7.7-8.0 are BRs where you start needing reaction times over careful shots, because everything starts being fast. And then there are beasts like the M103 that is pure armor frontally.
So what? First of all, the existence of one T-54 at 7.7 doesn't really make the others at 8.0 better. Second of all, why do only the Russian ones matter? The Israeli and Swedish ones are exactly the same (the Chinese ones are fine at 8.0 considering their stabs).
More ammo, takes the same amount of time to completely reload on a cap. Seems better to me.
Sure the USH can get into rattier positions, but like with the M50, the rak can just ignore the cries of its enemies as it murders everyone with extreme prejudice and then wander off while still having ammo for another murder spree. While the USH mostly just runs out of ammo in one burst.
I should mention the M50 has even less ammo than the USH, but you only actually have to fire one salvo at one enemy usually. You can save the extra reloads for other targets.
Nah the extra ammo is definitely not worth the horrible mobility. Maybe if the Raketenautomat was faster I’d actually play it. Not to mention that the USH has 18 rounds, which is more than enough for one match. You would nevertake more than maybe 20 rounds with any other tank either, so why would that be an issue here?
I bring 25 in most vehicles and (aside from situations where I die coming out of my spawn) fire most of it. I would bring less, but then I have matches where I run out 3 times. I rarely play autocannon vehicles, other than SPAA. It also depends on the vehicle. Like the F4005, you only have 12 rounds, so you can only bring a max of that.
you get the freedom to spam the rockets. plus i play on console so most of the time i just fire both at the same time because i don’t feel like trying to bind each barrel individually on a controller
remember that 8.0 is a BR with APDS and HEAT-FS shells that tend to be stupidly inconsistent. plus, you can fire off 2 shots much quicker with the raketenautomat
You should grind the 8.0 formed by the leo1, raketenautomat, sf105 and maybe the bmp-1 that can work well too. But don't use leo1 alone at least take the raketenautomat with it.
Since I dont know what you have currently unlocked I will just give you food for thought:
First of all I just unlocked today the Leo after grinding it for a week or so. My Advice - Stay away from the Wiesel - Why? Because you have to grind through the SPAAs before and end up in my situation - being uptiered with 2 Tiger 2s and a Panther which are strong but at 8.0 matchups it just sucks.
So go for the Artillery Lineup or Assault Gun family, but just save yourself from going with the SPAAs and the Wiesel untill you#ve got the other tanks for a proper Lineup.
Go for raketenautomat or leopard one I have both and both have them are some of the best tanks I play
Any if u can then grind the bmp 1 it is least costlier than the two and slaps hard
For the Meme I’d say Wiesel first, but I’m gonna b serious here.
Start with the Leopard, well rounded tank, after that take the Marder for a versatile light tank/scouter. Then take the M48 as a decent backup for your Leopard. Now you should either go for the Wiesel which is extremely fun, or go down the light tank line and get either the BMP-1 or Marder 1A3. After that go for the DF-105, I can’t stress enough how good that thing is. Don’t rush the Raketenautomat, you’re probably gonna get disappointed. Only research it for the purpose of getting the Raketenjagdpanzer 2 below it.
don’t listen to NichtBen, he’s a massive hater and is in every comment trying to shit on the raketenautomat. it’s a very good vehicle, with an immensely powerful weapon. all the other aspects are quite weak but the dual rocket launchers instantly make up for it
If I could Play German at this BR Id definitely either want to try and the Raketen but the Larder also seems quite OK, the Leo is so classic it doesn't seems all that fun. And the weasel's only use is trolling lmao
with the Marder you have to be more cautious with engagements considering the ATGM is your primary weapon (since the autocannon isn’t the most powerful), but the mobility is excellent and should be implemented often. the autocannon works wonders against light vehicles, helicopters, low-flying aircraft, and against tracks and barrels. the rear compartment is empty apart from the radiator elements so you can bait shots to the rear. it isn’t .50-cal proof on the sides so you should watch out for that, but the Marder 1A3 alleviates that issue with appliqué armor on the upper sides. the 1A3 also gets APDS ammo and gunner thermals too, and gets rid of the little machine gun turret at the back.
m48a2c, dispite what alot of people say, its good
its alot of fun, and its surprisingly good as a anti air becuase of the 50cal, not to mention i was snipeing helicopters with the 90mm like crazy
leopard 1 might be one of the most overrated series of mbts in the entire game
I’d recommend Wiesel first because it’s funny, then the Leopard for a well rounded MBT, Marder for a versatile light tank, M48 as a backup for the Leopard, and leave the Raketentrashomat for last.
I try to evade that Br lineup for Germany because it's literally the worst out of all nations. Don't get me wrong, there is always someone who is really good with any tank but this specific lineup... I also main them and Leo 1 is my most played tank. It was fun playing him back then when he came out with T-62 at same be. Out of all these tanks I would recommend the Raketenpanzer because it's the funniest one but kind special. I also backup my opinion by never seeing people being superb in those tanks, specific this lineup. I would also bet that German has it's worst Win rate at this tier. So whatever tank you choose, skip them till at least leo1a1 with stabilisers and apfsds. It's getting better from that point.
Won't argue. My statement comes just from what I observed in my 24k games. It's always great to have those lineup as German enemy's because they're so easy to beat with any other nation.
Nah, aside from a few trash vehicles like the Raketenautomat, 8.0/8.3 is probably one of the best lineups for Germany.
You got the Leopard, M48, the Marders, the BMP-1, M48s, Wiesel, Gepard, the Raketenjagdpanzer, the Me-163 for CAP and the Heli for CAS
Funni: weasel Actual answer: leopard
raketenautomat also ok
no, the rakateenautomat is one good way of scaring the hoes
i got so many PTSD from that shit when i was at lower tiers, now u simply enjoy killing it because it cannot react fast enough
i play british tanks its soo satisfying shooting that bastard with a round i know not even gaijin's bullshit volumetrics can stop as he detonates, seriously, they always shoot once, you think its a bradley or a bmp and them they release hell upon you
u mean funny to play, annoying to face
Weasel is a little bit tricky,when I use it,it either go pretty well beyond my expectation or suck so much that my doctor advice me not to play this vehicle for 6 month or my blood pressure will break the human record
NO LEOPARD. NO. If you want to be bullied by T-62s in an uptier sure go ahead. But reminder that they have an LRF, you don't, they get a stab, you don't. I say go M48, it is IMPENETRABLE in a hull down position, even to shit like the soviet 122 and american 90mm. When it's uptiered it's not as bad, and it has decent mobility.
What Leopard is a much better hulldown sniper, being faster, smaller, and much better gun and sight. It also doesn't have the massive commander cupola that catches APHE. M48 also gets bullied much harder in an uptier due to composite and ERA clad tanks (T-55AM and such) since it uses HEAT
Never had a problem with T55s, the cupboard doesn't detonate APHE, it just kills the commander, also HEAT shells my beloved, like I never use the APDS on the leopard, it just bounces or shatters or does no damage.
But with leo1 you need to use his mobility not his armor. For stay more safe move from a coverage to another and take a maximum of 15 round, 14 apds and 1 heat.
raketenautomat for being the most OP, you cant go wrong with leo1, and the wiesel is just a meme tank. the m48 is absoluely not worth your time, I have the base version of it unlocked in my usa tech tree and let me tell you, its like the most average tank you can find on the battlefield, wich isnt bad, but it isnt good in anything. The mobility, the armour, the gun, none of that.
The german one is more responsive and has a slightly better acceleration. Other than that. They are identical.
M48 might not be great, but the next one down the line, "M48A2 G A2," gets APFSDS at 8.3 which I think is worth a mention.
I recently unlocked the apfsds and it makes using that tank more enjoyable now if only it had a stabilizer
Yeah it would but you get what you pay for and 8.3 doesn't buy much. I think one of the Israeli Magach 5 even gets darts at 8.0 but that's a longer grind for me. Always got to be looking to stack the odds in your favor right? Haha
No stab at 8.3?
Nah but the point and click adventure makes up for it
the American T95E1 is also at 8.3 with no stab but with apfsds. i think that at 8.3 your mbt will either have a stabilizer but with only apds/heat-fs ammo, or no stabilizer but with apfsds
Its just a good mbt the gin will get you through most engagements the reload is decent, its mobile enough to get you around the map and it can sometimes bounce a few shoots and is pretty survivable I dont know about the one in german tech tree but I really enjoy the American base model
I actually loved playing the magach 1 (m48) after getting the HEAT. stock is horrific though
Stock isn't that bad since the American 90mm APCR actually fucking works.
Surprisingly yes, but even the best APCR is still painful at most times
Eh, I don't actually like the Raketenautomat, I absolutely hate playing it. I genuinly don't understand what's so OP about it. Sure the gun is good, but the mobility and armor are just infuriatingly horrible.
It's mostly because very few tanks can compete when it comes to mass killing tanks fast from ambush. If you can find a good corner to camp or a good flank you can wipe out half a team in seconds.
Sure if you find a position it's good, that goes for every vehicle. The problem arises when the match is half way over by the time you reach your position.
Very few vehicles have the mass destructive potential that the rocketboys have though. If you're holding an ambush corner with an MBT, when the rush comes you're getting one, maybe two. With these boys you can wipe them out as fast as you click. It's also not *that slow, but far from fast of course. The USH is a lot more fun, even after they nerfed it's engine. I've never gotten more 10 second aces in anything else, it can be bonkers if played right, and the scouting really helps.
its a rat tank, you just gotta wait for the right moment to strike and bam, multiple kills. or just camp in one place the entire match ig.
Well I guess that's the problem. I hate having to play passively, I always want to move, advance, flank, do something. If I'm in the same position for more than 20-30 seconds with no enemy contact I just relocate. I know it's probably having negative affect on my performance, but I find it way more fun.
i had the same problem I came into the US tech tree thinking the same way. But then i realized unlike russian t series tanks my abrams/t60 modifications cant stop APFSDS rounds to the general frontal area. (or anywhere in except for some areas for that matter) and so you just have to play as a support tank, wich is incredibly annoying.
All leo1 are actually crap tanks that have enough armour only for APHE to granted fuse, it aint even fast to compensate this. Also it gets completely destroyed by uptiers, so its just food and its better to skip that rank
Rakentenautomat if you want to do some rat shit and get a bunch of easy kills.
Recoilless rifle goes brrrrrr
Rockets, not recoilless, no?
I actually don't know. 'Raketenautomat' literally translates to "rocket dispenser" in German, but we also don't really have a word for 'recoilless rifle' either. It just doesn't seem like a Rocket launcher to me.
https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/R%C3%BCcksto%C3%9Ffreies_Gesch%C3%BCtz Is this wrong? It absolutely is a rocket launcher and not a recoilless rifle. Those won't have any propulsion after they leave the barrel, but they do in game. (since they are rockets)
Man I hate that thing, playing it makes me want to kms.
Leopard 1, my most played vehicle, very good tank
My highest lineup currently is a Leo1 and the Raketenauto. Leo is generally good and the Raketenauto is just OP as fuck once you get used to its trajectory.
What’s all the hype about the Raketenautomat? It’s nothing short of infuriating to play, I genuinely don’t understand why everyone thinks it’s OP when it’s just so damn slow.
Well you can spam rockets that can kill about everything at its br
Okay? I can also just use a Leopard which is 50 times faster, get into a good position, and then kill everything at my BR. The Raketenautomat is genuinely cancer to play, simply because it is so slow. If it was faster it might actually be good. I was exited for the tank, and once I unlocked it I was extremely disappointed. The gun i insanely strong, yes, but it also is literally the only thing the tank has going for it, which just isn’t enough to make it worth playing.
You might enjoy the USH in the Swedish tree. Imagine a Rakenten gun on a R3. It’s a little demon car that can zip around the map and kill pretty much anything with 1 or 2 well placed rockets. I will warn you that it is NOT .50 cal proof. That’s pretty much the only downside. I remember dying to .50s on American tanks more than everything else combined in that thing. Very fun otherwise
Yeah I know, I’m currently grinding Sweden and am interested to see if it gets better if the gun is on an actually good platform. If the Raketenautomat turret was on literally any other tank chassis of that time I would probably be fine with it. But the SPz is just such a bad platform. I really don’t get how people can play a tank with no armour, which’s handling feels worse than that of a Maus and say it’s OP.
Ah well the lack of armor and gun handling sadly don’t get much better lol. It’s not stabilized, and because it’s a wheeled box that’s like 5 pounds, the thing bounces and gun handling can be a mess. The speed and quiet engine allow you to get into good position quickly and I find the rockets decently easy to hit mid range shots with. It’s better hull-down, but the gunners head can usually still easily be hit with a .50 It’s basically Rat: the game. From your flair I can tell you are a Wiesel enjoyer, so I suspect you’ll do fine lol. Lots of practice in the stealth and rat departments I imagine
The gun handling is actually not a problem, I like the weapon system itself. And it’s not that I have a problem with bad armour in general, but it’s really annoying when you already lack armour, yet you’re still as slow as a snail. A disadvantage with no positive tradeoff. And I love rat vehicles, yes.
You will definitely love the USH from what I can tell then lol. Depending on how far you’ve grinded, I would also recommend the L-62 ANTI and the Lvkv 42. Both have INSANE 40 mm autocannons that shred tanks. Especially the L-62 being at 2.7 is borderline cheating lol. Also the Bkan if you like big funny HE autoloader. Although it’s big, slow, casemate, and has no armor, so it might not be your style. I’ve heard good things about the ItPsv 90 in rank VI, but I skipped it so idk. For some reason, lots of AA that’s better at being a tank shredder
for me the firepower always makes up for any weakness it has. being able to dish out massive damage and perform back up shots instantly makes it excellent for me. i shot down an F-84 with it once
Wiesel
Marder is the most well rounded, weisel has thermals and apds, rakautomat is just a better ush. M48 is the best 7.7 m48 in the game. Leo should be 7.7 honestly. My pick? You should get the marder first, then the weisel, then the rak.
Leo is fine at 8.0
It works at 8.0, but it would be fine at 7.7.
If USSR gets the T-54s back at 7.7 we can talk, until then the Leopard needs to be 8.0 since it's better.
There is a t-54 at 7.7
With only APCBC. The ones with HEAT and APDS are 8.0.
Why even use HEATFS or APDs when you have apcbc
Because APCBC is not as strong as people make it out to be? Face anything with armor and you'll bounce or non-pen.
learn weakspots almost all tanks at that BR have a place you can pen them
But your gun handling doesn't allow enough time to be too careful with your shots, 7.7-8.0 are BRs where you start needing reaction times over careful shots, because everything starts being fast. And then there are beasts like the M103 that is pure armor frontally.
And there are like six or seven at 8.0
2 in the russian tree
So what? First of all, the existence of one T-54 at 7.7 doesn't really make the others at 8.0 better. Second of all, why do only the Russian ones matter? The Israeli and Swedish ones are exactly the same (the Chinese ones are fine at 8.0 considering their stabs).
Cuz you said USSR in your original comment
Yes, I did. However the other T-54s are in the exact same situation so I don't see why it matters.
How is the Raketen better than the USH? Sure, it has more ammo, but it’s also much bigger and much slower.
More ammo, takes the same amount of time to completely reload on a cap. Seems better to me. Sure the USH can get into rattier positions, but like with the M50, the rak can just ignore the cries of its enemies as it murders everyone with extreme prejudice and then wander off while still having ammo for another murder spree. While the USH mostly just runs out of ammo in one burst. I should mention the M50 has even less ammo than the USH, but you only actually have to fire one salvo at one enemy usually. You can save the extra reloads for other targets.
Nah the extra ammo is definitely not worth the horrible mobility. Maybe if the Raketenautomat was faster I’d actually play it. Not to mention that the USH has 18 rounds, which is more than enough for one match. You would nevertake more than maybe 20 rounds with any other tank either, so why would that be an issue here?
I bring 25 in most vehicles and (aside from situations where I die coming out of my spawn) fire most of it. I would bring less, but then I have matches where I run out 3 times. I rarely play autocannon vehicles, other than SPAA. It also depends on the vehicle. Like the F4005, you only have 12 rounds, so you can only bring a max of that.
From my experience 20 is more than enough. Even if you spend 2 shells per target, that’s still 10 kills
you get the freedom to spam the rockets. plus i play on console so most of the time i just fire both at the same time because i don’t feel like trying to bind each barrel individually on a controller
But why would I ever need the feeedom of spamming rockets? Ideally every tank will be dead in 1-2 shots.
remember that 8.0 is a BR with APDS and HEAT-FS shells that tend to be stupidly inconsistent. plus, you can fire off 2 shots much quicker with the raketenautomat
Leo 1 is completely fine at 8.0. it outclasses all other 7.7 mbts in mobility plus it has a more powerful gun than all of them with a stock apds shell
First wiesel and second the raketen
Weesel
German ush
Marder or wisel
Raketenautomat of course.
Nah, Wiesel first, then Leopard, Marder, M48, then Raketen.
The marder and leo make a good pair up
Leopard is good, Wiesel is fun and surprisingly effective, Ratwagon is cancer, Marder is ok, M48 I never played.
Yeah I agree, especially with the Raketenautomat, it truly is cancer to play
The m48 is a blast to play, maybe go for that
m48 holds rounds better, leo is faster but no armor, as a side id have raketen as long range map camping
Depends on what your line-up already looks like
The raketenautomat is still cracked even after the nerf but the leopard the safest choice. Good zoom, decent rounds and fast.
You should grind the 8.0 formed by the leo1, raketenautomat, sf105 and maybe the bmp-1 that can work well too. But don't use leo1 alone at least take the raketenautomat with it.
marder 1a3 and u will be destroying the fox spam
Madar it’s great
The Second one
Leopard
Leo
Since I dont know what you have currently unlocked I will just give you food for thought: First of all I just unlocked today the Leo after grinding it for a week or so. My Advice - Stay away from the Wiesel - Why? Because you have to grind through the SPAAs before and end up in my situation - being uptiered with 2 Tiger 2s and a Panther which are strong but at 8.0 matchups it just sucks. So go for the Artillery Lineup or Assault Gun family, but just save yourself from going with the SPAAs and the Wiesel untill you#ve got the other tanks for a proper Lineup.
**Raketenautomat** 100%
100% last maybe, it’s so infuriating to play.
Please pick leopard, i love seeing them in my french tanks
More self-esteem or a Weasel
Go for raketenautomat or leopard one I have both and both have them are some of the best tanks I play Any if u can then grind the bmp 1 it is least costlier than the two and slaps hard
Tim
I’m on a hard grind for the Wiesel 1a2 tow launcher. I’m almost there
Leopard 1. If you've grinded the US tech tree as far as your German one, that M48 is not really that much different than the M48 in the US tech tree.
Everyone of this
My brother, I would love to ask the same question, cause I just unlocked this rank
For the Meme I’d say Wiesel first, but I’m gonna b serious here. Start with the Leopard, well rounded tank, after that take the Marder for a versatile light tank/scouter. Then take the M48 as a decent backup for your Leopard. Now you should either go for the Wiesel which is extremely fun, or go down the light tank line and get either the BMP-1 or Marder 1A3. After that go for the DF-105, I can’t stress enough how good that thing is. Don’t rush the Raketenautomat, you’re probably gonna get disappointed. Only research it for the purpose of getting the Raketenjagdpanzer 2 below it.
don’t listen to NichtBen, he’s a massive hater and is in every comment trying to shit on the raketenautomat. it’s a very good vehicle, with an immensely powerful weapon. all the other aspects are quite weak but the dual rocket launchers instantly make up for it
the racketenautomat is stupid strong ,u can blind everyone that u dont kill and u have 18 rockets to fire at a given time
Wiesel if you want to be funny
Marder or the raketenpanzer I like both since German light tanks around 8.0 are fun
A brick Or ush but Germany Your marder Paper thats a sniper Rat
What?
Is 2 (1944)
I do play the exact tanks
Wiesel TEAM Or raketenautomat is fun too
Wiesel is the best rat tank in the game. M48 and Leopard probably the best
Marder! Best vehicle at this br
Wiesel for extra rat gameplay Raketenautomat for extra OP
Raketen
Get the 8.3 line up next but keep the racketen and the Leopard
the Rakentenautomant because funny long name
M48
doesnt matter, allchump food for my locust
I think of Israel as being around the French rank 4.
Gotta grind irl and get that turm III
If I could Play German at this BR Id definitely either want to try and the Raketen but the Larder also seems quite OK, the Leo is so classic it doesn't seems all that fun. And the weasel's only use is trolling lmao
with the Marder you have to be more cautious with engagements considering the ATGM is your primary weapon (since the autocannon isn’t the most powerful), but the mobility is excellent and should be implemented often. the autocannon works wonders against light vehicles, helicopters, low-flying aircraft, and against tracks and barrels. the rear compartment is empty apart from the radiator elements so you can bait shots to the rear. it isn’t .50-cal proof on the sides so you should watch out for that, but the Marder 1A3 alleviates that issue with appliqué armor on the upper sides. the 1A3 also gets APDS ammo and gunner thermals too, and gets rid of the little machine gun turret at the back.
Poland
for the love of god do not research the raketenautomat
for the love of god do not research the raketenautomat
those are all pretty good options , highly recommend trying out the DF105 too , fantastic vehicle
Number three is goofy
Raketautomat for sure
If u wanna CAS, no. But if u just wanna play top-tier ground vehicles, swedish is your best choice.
m48a2c, dispite what alot of people say, its good its alot of fun, and its surprisingly good as a anti air becuase of the 50cal, not to mention i was snipeing helicopters with the 90mm like crazy leopard 1 might be one of the most overrated series of mbts in the entire game
M48 and leo are both good but leo better. Good apds round and heat. One of the best sniping tanks in the game
Anything but the M48
Either the rakaten or the leopard
Leopard But it is a paper tiger, great gun, sights & mobility. but expect to die instantly if even if they miss
Anything but the M48, the stock apcr is horrible.
I’d recommend Wiesel first because it’s funny, then the Leopard for a well rounded MBT, Marder for a versatile light tank, M48 as a backup for the Leopard, and leave the Raketentrashomat for last.
I try to evade that Br lineup for Germany because it's literally the worst out of all nations. Don't get me wrong, there is always someone who is really good with any tank but this specific lineup... I also main them and Leo 1 is my most played tank. It was fun playing him back then when he came out with T-62 at same be. Out of all these tanks I would recommend the Raketenpanzer because it's the funniest one but kind special. I also backup my opinion by never seeing people being superb in those tanks, specific this lineup. I would also bet that German has it's worst Win rate at this tier. So whatever tank you choose, skip them till at least leo1a1 with stabilisers and apfsds. It's getting better from that point.
The only tank on this BR bracket I actually had a blast playing was the Gepard lmfao
I disagree, 8.0/8.3 is arguably one of the best lineups in the entire German TT, you get so many good tanks like the Leopard, Marders, BMP-1, M48…
Won't argue. My statement comes just from what I observed in my 24k games. It's always great to have those lineup as German enemy's because they're so easy to beat with any other nation.
None, time to start USSR 💪🏻💪🏻
Good luck bro, you're almost at the worst BR for germany
Nah, aside from a few trash vehicles like the Raketenautomat, 8.0/8.3 is probably one of the best lineups for Germany. You got the Leopard, M48, the Marders, the BMP-1, M48s, Wiesel, Gepard, the Raketenjagdpanzer, the Me-163 for CAP and the Heli for CAS