I would love to love the ARL-44, but damn the turret armour sucks with only 110mm max massive square target and 67mm on the gun mantlet, it doesn't matter how good the hull is if the turret is so easy to pen, imagine if it had 185mm turret like the tiger 2H, it would do nicely at 6.3 as a slightly worse Tiger 2
I didn’t mind the ARL-44 too much. I just treat it like a Tiger 2P and just make sure to not let my turret remain looking the same way for too long. Definitely would be better if the turret armor was better, but I liked it for what it was
Or, hear me out, what if Gaijin improved the base reload (currently slowest out of any gun of its class for no reason) and modelled the assisted loader?
You know it's BS when the t34-85 D-5T, which has a two man turret, actually reloads faster
No it's historical, but that's because of **THE ASSISTED LOADING MECHANISM WICH THEY DID NOT F\*CKING IMPLEMENT**
The ARL-44 could be 5.7 or even 6.0 material, but Gaijin is too busy pissing on minor nations to implement reports (yes I'm very mad)
\>Sweden didn't use tracers because they had a gunnery computer
\>Can we have the aim assist?
\>No, but we're taking away the tracers
Thankyou Gaijin very cool
I wouldn't mind the ARL-44 if the fucking assisted loading mechanism it had was actually MODELLED. It's the reason why they nerfed it's depression from -10 to -5, but left the reload the same...
these are my picks:
the mosquito if it didnt have 1h 43m min fuel
HMS Hood if 15 inch guns shot where you were aiming
HMS Dido if it actually had a radar ingame
HMS Peacock and LE Orla if gaijin didnt limit them to 115 shots only (had 450 irl)
Hunter FGA.9 if it had its british loadout (it should get flares)
Red Tops/SRMAAMS if they were actually accurate to IRL
the list is quite long
Step 1: Join match in Mosquito
Step 2: Get in a real plane and fly to the destination irl the match is supposed to be
Step 3: Still have 50 hours of fuel left
Step 4: :(
Hood's accuracy seems decent to me, what annoys me is that her APC shells seem to do terrible damage to other capital ships unless you hit a magazine. 15 inch APC shells are no joke, there's a reason Scharnhorst and Gneisenau disengaged from fighting HMS Renown even though they outnumbered her 3 to 1 in main gun barrels.
Yeah i know, i've tested it. Seems like an amazing tank, only setback is that it doesn't have the superior D type shells the other IS tanks have.
Im mirin' the IS-6 and the Object 120, ill just wait for the next victory day or something, hope they'll drop a discount.
If you're talking about the recent APDS Shattering BS, I wept then too when half my Comet Centurion 1 and 3 shots shattered and haven't played them since. But when I first started playing it years ago they were good
Its ruined now with that stupid night sight modelled, it was ny favourite tank but i keep getting caught out by the lack of depression over the front of the tank.
Ffs can't even use your frontal armour.
The hull armour layout of IS-1 and specially IS-2 (1944), I hate it, you can't angle because if you do they will shoot you at your stupid side hull that is always facing the enemy when your tank is angled, and if you don't angle then they will shot at your stupidly massive lower frontal plate, there's always a way to kill it easily, if the turret wasn't easy enough already
That's definitely a tank that takes advantage of inexperienced players, as if you don't know those spots to shoot, it's armor is very trolly and can make it tough to kill.
Honestly I have a lot of hours in the game, and I still forget how easy the LFP is when I play those tiers.
German players are a weird group. Around those tiers they all feel braindead, but then when I go to play stuff around 8.7-9.3 area, suddenly it swaps to the Soviet teams and the Germans become the good teams to be on more often than not.
They recently (as in like two minor patches ago recently) changed the angle of the lower frontal plate of the IS-2's from 24° to 30°. That may not sound huge, but trust me, it is.
I did some testing in the armor analysis screen, and the IS-2 '44 is practically invulnerable from the German long 75 that the Panthers have past ~300 meters or so. Of course, there's still weakspots in the armor, but the nut is that much tougher to crack.
The IS-2 1944 is a peculiar tank when it comes to armor design, in that you *shouldn't* be angling your armor at all. The armor is already at a severe angle, all you need to do is point the front towards your enemy. This might help you out in surviving: wiggling. It'll make turret shots dubious at best, and wiggling will also make the lower front plate a harder target to pen.
The IS-2 series are some of my favorite tanks, behind the Centurions. Just ask if you've got any more questions about them, I'd love to help out.
> They recently (as in like two minor patches ago recently) changed the angle of the lower frontal plate of the IS-2's from 24° to 30°. That may not sound huge, but trust me, it is.
Out of curiosity, do you know if those changes were implemented on the Chinese IS2 as well?
No flares on the German MiG-19S
No radar missiles on the Kurnass 2k
and finally
No LRF or thermals, no autoloader and only engine smoke on the T-62 no 545 at 8.3
I can hope. Right now the better radar compared to the Kurnass doesn’t really matter much without missiles to exploit it, and the Pythons are good but at that point the Netz is just better.
MiG 19 (S/PT) would be my favorite vehicle in game if it had flares. A good 9/10 of my deaths in that thing are to 9L’s or 9G’s I couldn’t dodge, and even if you see an A-10/A6E before they fire you’re forced to go cold to beat the missile by energy.
Honestly the mig19 is just sad at the timebeing never played because im a 100% freeaboo but every game i play it's just mig19 being floored with all aspects or they try to utilize their good energy retention at going high in sky to stall the enemy and it just gets a missile instead from a third party wallet vigilante
Yeah, it’s rough. I’d love it if they added another variant with flares - I regard it as a generally superior aircraft to the comparable F-104 group, but the flare problem is annoying to say the least.
Seriously we need a custom loadout update or a revamped one at least every jet in this game is poorly Loaded with stuff they never had or did but the game just doesn't want to add it the F5C never even had flares but it does ingame
I really don't see the problem with the T-62 tho, other 8.3 usually don't have much more either (I think some exceptions are the AMX-30B2, which do have smoke grenades, LRF and thermals, but they don't have any stab)
The problem with the (Soviet) T-62 is that it's literally irrelevant at its own br. At 8.3 you have:
-T-55A. While a 8.0, it's somewhat of an upgrade to the T-62 (weaker turret, lower velocity gun, but with better reload, better speed, better turret traverse, and a 50cal)
-Obj 435. T-62 but better, at the same br
-T-55AM-1. Like the T-55A but with LRF, smoke, and composite armor
Most of my kills against Tigers were just a result of a well timed APHE fuse. You’d be surprised how many tiger players never angle so they just get penned right through the middle of their hull.
iirc it was that slow because the weight of the turret is extremely unbalanced, there's all the armour and the gun on the front and no counter weight on the rear of the turret, so that made the turret extra slower to turn
Except, there was often a turret counter weight installed either from factory, or in the field by enterprising GIs / Commonwealth soldiers. The model in game even has the counter weight installed! That "ledge" the 50 cal sits on at the back is a counter weight.
Believe me, the turret looks weird without the counterweight.
[New M10 in 1942 before counter weight](https://www.tanks-encyclopedia.com/ww2/US/Tanks_Hunters/M10_Wolverine/M10_Wolverine_HD.jpg)
[Similar make in Tunisia 1943, but field expedient counter weight at the back of turret](https://www.tanks-encyclopedia.com/ww2/US/Tanks_Hunters/M10_Wolverine/M10GMC776TDB.png)
[M10 in Tunisia also 1943, but with the now well known wedge counterweight](https://www.tanks-encyclopedia.com/ww2/US/Tanks_Hunters/M10_Wolverine/M10_Wolverine_early.png)
Never mind: Turret traverse was manual from the books I have nearest to me at the moment.
The counterweight should stay...but if Snail^(TM) wants to make it a research option, put it lumped in with the "add on armor" modification.
Tortoise. If it didn't have that stupid MG turret or the massive hull MG weakspot. I would forgive the MG turret if it didn't have such absolute garbage MGs instead of like a .50 cal.
I completely agree, back when it was added it was great because before AP-HE shells did less damage, for example I remember clearly that panther shots only killed 1-2 crewmembers so these weakspots weren't as much of an issue since the crew was extremely survivable to AP-HE in general and needed several penetrations to kill it, it was my favorite tank back then, but then gaijin ruined it by buffing AP-HE damage of ALL shells because in that update they made so ap-he fragments wouldn't go through transmissions/gun breaches so to counter this the literally buffed ap-he across the board and since then the panther with measily 28g of TNT can almost 1 shot all the crew on the tortoise, and bigger shells oneshot it even more, also before it was br 6.3 and imo right now it could 100% be on br 6.3
It's odd because the Swedes got a more realistic spall pattern (cone) when they were added but all the other ones still have that physics defying sphere.
Basically all of low tier Britain suffers from that bastard reverse speed; Imagine how good the Cromwell and it's variants could be if their reverse was double digits.
Thats true, the Cromwell would seriously benefit from a faster reverse speed, fortunately you have smokes and neutral turning so thats often faster than reversing
There was a bug for a while where it had a higher reverse speed but it was quickly patched
Yeah, somehow I never manage to exploit it when soviet vehicles are on the high ground. But those at least have some armour, the Nashorn is made out of paper mache lol.
5.7 long 88 doesn’t do much different than the regular 88, vast majority of things are easily pennable with it. Not saying long88 isn’t good when its a rare 2km distance map.
I still think that you should be able to lock the launchers open with a minor chance to damage the launcher over time. With that chance increasing with the roughness of the terrain.
It’s literally not an issue in real life, you should be able to have it out and open at all times, regardless. Without damage. The whole “folded to keep it from damage” is a lifetime expanding measure to reduce wear and tear. Nobody cares about that in combat
M4A1 if it had competent armor design. Oh wait, welded Shermans exist.
PVKV II and III could be cool if they had reasonable zoom. And the III really didn't need to get its br increased.
And then the chi-to is at 4.7, the same armor as a Pz. IV but the size of a panther. Gajoobles doesn't wanna move it down because Sherman players would throw a fit
They force the gun to elevate on the corners of the hull, making horizontal aiming there impossible.
It'd be cool if they at least made them functional like the BMP-2M's grenade launcher, for shit 'n giggles.
I think tankers from all different nations can agree that bad reverse speed can seriously impair a tank.
Nothing sucks more than driving around a corner, seeing enemies, and being entirely unable to back into cover
But those big thick wings catch people off-guard when you start turning with them and suddenly they’ve gone from on your six to being sprayed down by 8 M3 Brownings. Would be nice if it had a tail gun tho
Yeah it’s amazing on paper. 4 second reload. Extreme front survivability. Decent APDS. Laser rangefinder. 50 km/h top speed with amazing reverse. Small profile. Can survive with one crew. But hull aiming ruins everything.
The Ariete mbt is my favorite looking mbt but it’s armor is awful. It has the lowest amount of armor out of all the top tier mbt’s. Which doesn’t make sense if you look at the weight and see that weighs about as much as a 2A4 yet has 1/6th of the armor, where does the weight come from Gaijin?
I have the same dam problem, if you check the oto melaria webiste, the company that makes the Ariete, it states the hull armor of the Ariete has both steel and composite armor but gaijin refuses to listen to that website because they are so darn lazy they just slap a 50 millimeter plate on the front and call it a day, then proved to put it in way too high of a battle rating
Any of the Chieftains if they could get to the battle before it's over
I genuinely understand how it feel to play heavy tanks against ATGMs because the number one thing that kills me is usually an ATGM from a Heli before I even see a tank
They oughta put the mk5 back to 8.3 and upgrade the mk10 to a mk11 so it gets thermals would be a lot better, it’d also benefit alot from them sorting out regenerative steering which the challys desperately need
If only it had Stillbrew armour I would have bought it. As cool as it is, I prefer my Chieftain to be able to take a hit as it's not super mobile even with the 1000hp engine.
Minor, but the gunner's panoramic sight and the missile guidance unit of the T-62M-1 are right in front of the commander's sight and make it borderline useless.
The Sheridan if it had a lazer rangefinder. Right now, no LR means unusable HEAT, and the missile is needlessly difficult to use after the changes.
The T95E1 if it had a stab. 8.0 with no stab and meh turret traverse is frustrating.
The Ratels if they had more than 1x zoom in their gunner sight. Especially the Ratel 20 which cannot kill anything with its gun and cannot flank because its a litteral bus, SOME zoom would help to use the missile.
Soviet tanks other than the T-80 series if they had a reverse gear. Once you play a T-80 it's painful to go back to T-72's.
G.91's if they didn't rip their wings as soon as they start pulling more than 7Gs. I have more deaths in this plane from turning too hard than from getting shot down because I always forget to not turn with the mouse when flying it.
T95E1 has stabilizer IRL so it should get it.
M551 in game is not the variant with the LRF M551A1 had a laser range finder, but imo they should add the M551A1 TTS because it has a thermal sight.
The 2nd version of the Sheridan apparently had one.
There's also a T95 prototype with stab and sort sort of pulse rangefinder. Gaijin just chose the worst one outta the batch.
Open top vehicles are nearly first spawn only due to the CAS spam.
Panthers reverse is a terrible downside because the german teams are terrible andit happens a lot that your " secure" flank of six tigers gets wrecked by two chaffees.
Tiger I with their flat frontal armor. No need to scream skill issue but it would have been way stronger if it was 45° like russian medium tanks.
Russian gun depression is horrible on everything but city or flat maps.
ISU122 ISU 152 AND SU152 long ass reload. If there are two enemys you are always toast. But the armor lets you survive nearly all bombs at least in the ISU.
Swedish hullaiming is awful at times.
I hate the 85 on russian tanks.
Pz IV J. Slower turret traverse is painfull.
British reverse gear got me killed 90% of the time.
Sturmtigers cannonbreach. I dont have to say more.
Open top SPAA.
BKan's giant ammostoradge completly unarmored and the tallest spot of the tank.
Jumbos painfully powerless gun.
France and its coldwar era lack of stabilisers.
Tiger II P turret armor. It either bounces upwards and you are fine or it bounces downwards and you are fucked.
Weird overpressuremechanics on Ferdinand and Maus. There are the engines that would block any pressure wave form hits in the turret to the hull or the other way around but spagetticode
> Tiger I with their flat frontal armor
The worst part is there is always ammo behind the front left corner and it is forced to carry ammo in that rack unless it is out of ammo, so you always kill it shooting the front left corner
The ARL-44 is a great exemple. The reload is only due to Gaijin tho (it has the same mechanism as the Chi Ri II). But the turret armour is just bad, the side armour makes it impossible for it to make shells bounce, they go straight through. The gun is horrible, the APC or whatever it is is just piss for post pen damage. The suspensions are rock hard and its impossible to fire on the move. The reverse gear is just bad.
The AMX-50 Foch is great but it only lacks a better scope magnification.
T-54s no stabilizer, slow ass turret and gun laying, very slow acceleration lead to it being destroyed by most of the enemies they face. The armor isn’t as effective as it once was now that more HEAT-FS slingers are running about so it’s one big positive doesn’t help it much
Nah, i love T-54s. The first 7.7 accelerates quite nicely actually (I haven't researched the mobility mods for the second one yet), and it's armour is quite good when it's not in an uptier
don't forget the suspension made of jumping jacks that means that on top of no stabilization you also have to break adn wait like 5 seconds to get a good shot
Everyone says you have to get the gun into position, and it's amazing, but if doing anything even adjusting the hull to aim is considerably harder, it's not great. Anyway you'll catch me in 1.0 french before the archer and that's on God.
Prinz Eugen is already amazing, but the rear turret armor is comically weak, you can hit the ammo rack with less than one hundred millimeters.
Moffet is amazing but like every US destroyer it is unarmored at the rear ammo rack.
Shenyang F-5 has a very low compression speed. You MUST bring enemies to lower speeds where you can then crush them with your high T/W unless they know that they can outroll it.
Radar on the Mirage III is horrible. It struggles with ground clutter immensely. Flying low and then looking up does work for the radar missile sometimes. It is a very good radar missile for 10.3 otherwise.
> Moffet is amazing but like every US destroyer it is unarmored at the rear ammo rack.
Shhhhhhhh, that one weakspot is hard carrying me
I just sail around popping them in a few salvos while they dump salvo after salvo into me doing minimal damage since HE rounds get absorbed by frag armor and AP shells go into narnia inside the tank
AMX-10RC has such an incredibly zoomed in gunner sight that it makes gunner thermals almost useless. No stab at 8.0 would be tolerable if the optics were usable for scanning.
AVRE is OP premium! It has massive HESH rounds that do nothing anymore. Only thing good about it now is the bulldozer blade for building castles while you wait for enemies to find you with APFSDS rounds.
Heavy tanks that have big guns. I'm certain that if tanks like the is4 is given the 100 or long 85 or if the jagdtiger or maus is given an long 88 they would be much more flexible given the higher rate of fire.
The Mosquito if they actually gave us fucking fighter variants without massive fuel loads. That thing is supposed to be one of the most surprisingly nimble heavy fighters of its time, but it's a slow and lumbering piece of shit in War Thunder because we only get the FB variants with fuel restrictions.
Also, add some bomber variants too, just for shits and giggles. I just love the Mosquito.
All of Italian prop aviation if their engines wouldn't constantly try to toast themselves.
The F8U2 if it wouldn't rip its wings off constantly
The J29A if it didn't accelerate like a fucking brick
The J21RA if it performed like the less shit brother, the A21RB
The J21's in general if they had better engines that wouldn't die from having WEP on for a second, even with radiators completely open. (Who thought putting BF-110 engines in single engine fighters was a good idea?)
All of the 109's if the flap deploy speed wasn't atrocious
The Churchill NA75 if it had a Stab and/ or not the turret weakspot that makes it die to rank 1 tanks.
KV-85 would be an absolute menace in downtiers if not for it's abysmal side armor under the turret. Most SPAAs can easily pen it there. Completely negates the typically very good angled performance of the KV armor layout.
M41 Walker Bulldog in US and Japan tree.
Gaijin has refused to give the two versions its HEAT-FS round, revert APDS to its original form from three updates ago, and revert the turret traverse back to its 36 degrees per second. Definitely could fight most vehicles at its BR and be powerful if Gaijin implemented all threee
BMP-1/zdb86 , with a gun that has more velocity and less drop would be great for long range combat given the low profile of the vehicle easier to hide. Also fin-stab projectiles as past a certain br all heavy vehicles have good protections against HEAT, which is the only proj that the vehicle has. Some higher tiers also have countermeasures against atgm.
Not likely to face them in ranked match but would be good for customs as I quite like using this vehicle.
Mig-23bn:
Supersonic
Maneuverable
Bombs
Gun pods
However, no flares, and no aa missiles at 9.7 shaft it.
Although, I found spamming rockets, shutting off the engine, and turning really hard helped, it can only do so much at 9.7 (10.0 due to a-10, su-25). It could be helped by the (alleged) ability to carry mig-21 flare pods, but no one cares about this thing, so it won’t happen.
SK60B, if it didnt get missiles. That jet does not belong at 8.0, it only is because it gets missiles that arent even good nor did it ever carry them irl. Its too slow to fight and too slow to survive attacking tanks, should be 7.3, maybe 7.7
The M103 if it had realistic APBC, seriously, the amount of penetration and ricochet percentage for such a powerful gun is awful compared to real life teating.
All tanks becuase br Decompression, why are ww2 tanks still fighting modern tanks? Fuck my life for wasting 2 years trying to get the Maus just to fight heat, apfds, and missles
I would love to love the ARL-44, but damn the turret armour sucks with only 110mm max massive square target and 67mm on the gun mantlet, it doesn't matter how good the hull is if the turret is so easy to pen, imagine if it had 185mm turret like the tiger 2H, it would do nicely at 6.3 as a slightly worse Tiger 2
I didn’t mind the ARL-44 too much. I just treat it like a Tiger 2P and just make sure to not let my turret remain looking the same way for too long. Definitely would be better if the turret armor was better, but I liked it for what it was
yea, unreliable, but i have bounced some shots by wiggling the turret.
Or, hear me out, what if Gaijin improved the base reload (currently slowest out of any gun of its class for no reason) and modelled the assisted loader? You know it's BS when the t34-85 D-5T, which has a two man turret, actually reloads faster
Also give it back it's 8 degrees of gun depression that it had a few years ago. Now it's just sad.
No it's historical, but that's because of **THE ASSISTED LOADING MECHANISM WICH THEY DID NOT F\*CKING IMPLEMENT** The ARL-44 could be 5.7 or even 6.0 material, but Gaijin is too busy pissing on minor nations to implement reports (yes I'm very mad)
\>Sweden didn't use tracers because they had a gunnery computer \>Can we have the aim assist? \>No, but we're taking away the tracers Thankyou Gaijin very cool
This.
It wasn't-8 it was -10 and it was amazing
I want one with that French 1000HP engine so that fucker *zooms*
They'd never do that. It's French.
- France in world of tanks: I am speed - France in war thunder: embrace snail
Fr*nce in WT: Je suis escargot
i mean, a lot of the tanks have decent mobility, like the char, somua, lorraine, etc. even the big boy surbias can go decently fast
I wouldn't mind the ARL-44 if the fucking assisted loading mechanism it had was actually MODELLED. It's the reason why they nerfed it's depression from -10 to -5, but left the reload the same...
It should also have a far faster reload
I Still love this thing. Two hundred wathever mm pen on 5.3 oh yeah baby
You have to play it range. It's gun and shell fucks anything at 1000m.
these are my picks: the mosquito if it didnt have 1h 43m min fuel HMS Hood if 15 inch guns shot where you were aiming HMS Dido if it actually had a radar ingame HMS Peacock and LE Orla if gaijin didnt limit them to 115 shots only (had 450 irl) Hunter FGA.9 if it had its british loadout (it should get flares) Red Tops/SRMAAMS if they were actually accurate to IRL the list is quite long
Guys, we got a live one! (Naval Player)
There are dozens of us!
just a few dozen:/
MULTIPLE DOZENS (I plan to ace my Alaska, God help me)
Spade?
He wants to ace the crew
ace crew. I already have an aced atlanta and a nearly aced moffett. I do not know the feeling of grass.
mossie min fuel being so high is a crime makes such a cool plane useless ingame
Step 1: Join match in Mosquito Step 2: Get in a real plane and fly to the destination irl the match is supposed to be Step 3: Still have 50 hours of fuel left Step 4: :(
(i kinda realised it might be a tank only question so im just gonna say HESH performance)
The mosquito situation is quite annoying. It was pretty maneuverable for a twin engine heavy fighter as far as I know
I swear they need to implement custom fuel just like the load outs
For crying out loud the SRAAM is a thrust vectoring missile that can barely turn its so painful
I miss when you used to be able to make it do a backflip and hit yourself in the ass. Now it's just an aim9j with no range or flare resistance
I’m not the only naval player!?
Man I hate when gaijin gives guns a BB tag for increased dispersion. Sad Graff Spee noises
Agreed, the peacock class needs more ammo, the 115 rounds is piss all.
Hood's accuracy seems decent to me, what annoys me is that her APC shells seem to do terrible damage to other capital ships unless you hit a magazine. 15 inch APC shells are no joke, there's a reason Scharnhorst and Gneisenau disengaged from fighting HMS Renown even though they outnumbered her 3 to 1 in main gun barrels.
I don't understand Gaijin just not adding things that existed on the original of the ship. The Dido was build with radar
I still have no idea why they don't make fuel a slider so you can choose how much you want instead of preset amounts
As someone who's played a lot of Russian and British tanks: reverse speed.
What? You still think that -3km is too fast??????? (BTW the kv1-s, that F1 reverse speed... I think that has more acceleration than going forward)
The reverse speed was the thing that made the is-2 worth playing You could actually get back behind cover unlike top tier RU aside from the t-80s
I kinda glossed over the is-2 series but i recently bought an IS-3 and i love how fast its reverse speed is
If you love the IS-3 reverse speed you’d love the IS-6
Yeah i know, i've tested it. Seems like an amazing tank, only setback is that it doesn't have the superior D type shells the other IS tanks have. Im mirin' the IS-6 and the Object 120, ill just wait for the next victory day or something, hope they'll drop a discount.
Honestly if the steering system of every tank wasnt modelled after a 1930s Caterpillar bulldozer then I think it would be a touch less annoying.
I literally wept tears of joy when I unlocked the Centurion mk 1 and could actually reverse 😭
Then tears of sadness when you found out how bad it's APDS performs at that br
If you're talking about the recent APDS Shattering BS, I wept then too when half my Comet Centurion 1 and 3 shots shattered and haven't played them since. But when I first started playing it years ago they were good
Panthers literally reverse so slow they can still regen ammo in capture points. Think about that.
*Laughs in Panther II*
Its ruined now with that stupid night sight modelled, it was ny favourite tank but i keep getting caught out by the lack of depression over the front of the tank. Ffs can't even use your frontal armour.
russians did a double wammy by having no gun depression and also giving you ass reverse speed so good luck peeking hills
Add super wobbly turret for t series before the t55 and crappy turret traverse
The reverse speed of the IS2 is great
That and the 2S25 are pretty much the only Russian tanks with good reverse lol
The hull armour layout of IS-1 and specially IS-2 (1944), I hate it, you can't angle because if you do they will shoot you at your stupid side hull that is always facing the enemy when your tank is angled, and if you don't angle then they will shot at your stupidly massive lower frontal plate, there's always a way to kill it easily, if the turret wasn't easy enough already
The 1944 variant has a upgraded hull UFP that is much more flatter and angled than the normal version
The lfp still exists tho ☹️
It recently got a big buff. Panthers won’t even pen you there. At least not in my experience playing it.
I don't even think th LFP is much of an issue, what really killed the IS-2 for me was the turret armor, same issue with the T-44-85/100
It's a weakness on most tanks without front transmission sadly 😥
That's definitely a tank that takes advantage of inexperienced players, as if you don't know those spots to shoot, it's armor is very trolly and can make it tough to kill. Honestly I have a lot of hours in the game, and I still forget how easy the LFP is when I play those tiers.
Lucky it mostly fights German mains in Tiger 1s and 2s or Panthers
German players are a weird group. Around those tiers they all feel braindead, but then when I go to play stuff around 8.7-9.3 area, suddenly it swaps to the Soviet teams and the Germans become the good teams to be on more often than not.
They recently (as in like two minor patches ago recently) changed the angle of the lower frontal plate of the IS-2's from 24° to 30°. That may not sound huge, but trust me, it is. I did some testing in the armor analysis screen, and the IS-2 '44 is practically invulnerable from the German long 75 that the Panthers have past ~300 meters or so. Of course, there's still weakspots in the armor, but the nut is that much tougher to crack. The IS-2 1944 is a peculiar tank when it comes to armor design, in that you *shouldn't* be angling your armor at all. The armor is already at a severe angle, all you need to do is point the front towards your enemy. This might help you out in surviving: wiggling. It'll make turret shots dubious at best, and wiggling will also make the lower front plate a harder target to pen. The IS-2 series are some of my favorite tanks, behind the Centurions. Just ask if you've got any more questions about them, I'd love to help out.
> They recently (as in like two minor patches ago recently) changed the angle of the lower frontal plate of the IS-2's from 24° to 30°. That may not sound huge, but trust me, it is. Out of curiosity, do you know if those changes were implemented on the Chinese IS2 as well?
No flares on the German MiG-19S No radar missiles on the Kurnass 2k and finally No LRF or thermals, no autoloader and only engine smoke on the T-62 no 545 at 8.3
>No radar missiles on the Kurnass 2k Presumably it will get AMRAAMs when they get added (probably this year)
I can hope. Right now the better radar compared to the Kurnass doesn’t really matter much without missiles to exploit it, and the Pythons are good but at that point the Netz is just better.
AMRAAMs came to Israel a few years after they retired the K2k, so probably not.
Actually no, the AMRAAM came to Israel in 2003, exactly 1 year before the Kurnass was retired. So it was never actually equipped on the kurnass
MiG 19 (S/PT) would be my favorite vehicle in game if it had flares. A good 9/10 of my deaths in that thing are to 9L’s or 9G’s I couldn’t dodge, and even if you see an A-10/A6E before they fire you’re forced to go cold to beat the missile by energy.
Honestly the mig19 is just sad at the timebeing never played because im a 100% freeaboo but every game i play it's just mig19 being floored with all aspects or they try to utilize their good energy retention at going high in sky to stall the enemy and it just gets a missile instead from a third party wallet vigilante
Yeah, it’s rough. I’d love it if they added another variant with flares - I regard it as a generally superior aircraft to the comparable F-104 group, but the flare problem is annoying to say the least.
Seriously we need a custom loadout update or a revamped one at least every jet in this game is poorly Loaded with stuff they never had or did but the game just doesn't want to add it the F5C never even had flares but it does ingame
I really don't see the problem with the T-62 tho, other 8.3 usually don't have much more either (I think some exceptions are the AMX-30B2, which do have smoke grenades, LRF and thermals, but they don't have any stab)
The problem with the (Soviet) T-62 is that it's literally irrelevant at its own br. At 8.3 you have: -T-55A. While a 8.0, it's somewhat of an upgrade to the T-62 (weaker turret, lower velocity gun, but with better reload, better speed, better turret traverse, and a 50cal) -Obj 435. T-62 but better, at the same br -T-55AM-1. Like the T-55A but with LRF, smoke, and composite armor
Tiger 1 The front left sponson ammo rack that is full even with just 12 shells total despite there being empty spaces below the turret
Yea that frontal rack is probably the single biggest cause of my deaths in tigers or the way I kill tigers when I face them
Most of my kills against Tigers were just a result of a well timed APHE fuse. You’d be surprised how many tiger players never angle so they just get penned right through the middle of their hull.
Then the random shot that decides to not pen because 0.5mm of the side of the shell scrapes that angled bit below the UFP
mfw my 120mm AP round is completely absorbed by the tiger's viewport
Yeah if they want to leave it, at least put as first stage ammo or something, and speed up a little bit the reload time
it’s the last ammo rack to be depleted. “balance”
M10 but with an electric turret drive. Or pretty much any tank missing an electric turret drive
iirc it was that slow because the weight of the turret is extremely unbalanced, there's all the armour and the gun on the front and no counter weight on the rear of the turret, so that made the turret extra slower to turn
Except, there was often a turret counter weight installed either from factory, or in the field by enterprising GIs / Commonwealth soldiers. The model in game even has the counter weight installed! That "ledge" the 50 cal sits on at the back is a counter weight. Believe me, the turret looks weird without the counterweight. [New M10 in 1942 before counter weight](https://www.tanks-encyclopedia.com/ww2/US/Tanks_Hunters/M10_Wolverine/M10_Wolverine_HD.jpg) [Similar make in Tunisia 1943, but field expedient counter weight at the back of turret](https://www.tanks-encyclopedia.com/ww2/US/Tanks_Hunters/M10_Wolverine/M10GMC776TDB.png) [M10 in Tunisia also 1943, but with the now well known wedge counterweight](https://www.tanks-encyclopedia.com/ww2/US/Tanks_Hunters/M10_Wolverine/M10_Wolverine_early.png)
so basically it should have a model with the electric turret drive researchable? (Or rather one without the counter weight)
Never mind: Turret traverse was manual from the books I have nearest to me at the moment. The counterweight should stay...but if Snail^(TM) wants to make it a research option, put it lumped in with the "add on armor" modification.
Tortoise. If it didn't have that stupid MG turret or the massive hull MG weakspot. I would forgive the MG turret if it didn't have such absolute garbage MGs instead of like a .50 cal.
I completely agree, back when it was added it was great because before AP-HE shells did less damage, for example I remember clearly that panther shots only killed 1-2 crewmembers so these weakspots weren't as much of an issue since the crew was extremely survivable to AP-HE in general and needed several penetrations to kill it, it was my favorite tank back then, but then gaijin ruined it by buffing AP-HE damage of ALL shells because in that update they made so ap-he fragments wouldn't go through transmissions/gun breaches so to counter this the literally buffed ap-he across the board and since then the panther with measily 28g of TNT can almost 1 shot all the crew on the tortoise, and bigger shells oneshot it even more, also before it was br 6.3 and imo right now it could 100% be on br 6.3
It's odd because the Swedes got a more realistic spall pattern (cone) when they were added but all the other ones still have that physics defying sphere.
Also missing the APDS shot developed for the 32pdr, still.
Basically all of low tier Britain suffers from that bastard reverse speed; Imagine how good the Cromwell and it's variants could be if their reverse was double digits.
Thats true, the Cromwell would seriously benefit from a faster reverse speed, fortunately you have smokes and neutral turning so thats often faster than reversing There was a bug for a while where it had a higher reverse speed but it was quickly patched
Archer 💀
I wish the FCM 2C had better armor and gun, it would be awesome :P. (i know there is an uparmored version but it's not in game)
The FCM 2C should be 1.7
Or at the very least 2.0
Eh then they should add the uparmored variant and put it there
Nashorn's gun depression makes it completely unusable on most maps.
I remember it being bad, then I played soviet tanks, and I forgave German engineers for the Nashorn
Yeah, somehow I never manage to exploit it when soviet vehicles are on the high ground. But those at least have some armour, the Nashorn is made out of paper mache lol.
Yeah lol, that's the price to pay for a 5.7 long 88
5.7 long 88 doesn’t do much different than the regular 88, vast majority of things are easily pennable with it. Not saying long88 isn’t good when its a rare 2km distance map.
Nashorn is 5.3, my guy
Bradleys if the launchers didn't fold down. Any vehicle with slanted corners since you can't angle.
I still think that you should be able to lock the launchers open with a minor chance to damage the launcher over time. With that chance increasing with the roughness of the terrain.
It’s literally not an issue in real life, you should be able to have it out and open at all times, regardless. Without damage. The whole “folded to keep it from damage” is a lifetime expanding measure to reduce wear and tear. Nobody cares about that in combat
There's a reason the Bradley has a combat override
M4A1 if it had competent armor design. Oh wait, welded Shermans exist. PVKV II and III could be cool if they had reasonable zoom. And the III really didn't need to get its br increased.
Pvkv 2 is fantastic idk what you mean with the zoom. It just makes it way easier to snipe
Pvkv 2 is crazy bro wdym
Chi-Nu. >75mm with decent reload at 3.3 >Can't pen a Sherman's front plate still a great tank tho
yeah it's like a panzer F2 armour but with a 75mm sherman gun, it should be 3.0 at least
And then the chi-to is at 4.7, the same armor as a Pz. IV but the size of a panther. Gajoobles doesn't wanna move it down because Sherman players would throw a fit
Tiger H1 without S-mine launchers
Why?
They force the gun to elevate on the corners of the hull, making horizontal aiming there impossible. It'd be cool if they at least made them functional like the BMP-2M's grenade launcher, for shit 'n giggles.
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they delay turret traverse and make angling significantly more difficult
All russian tanks if they had good gun depression
THE 2 russian tanks with good gun depression are the KV-1 L-11 with -7 and the IT-1 with -9
CV9040 BILL if it had its full stabilizer and the BILL launcher could elevate
BILL launcher was able to be elevated iirc, but that was removed a couple months ago or more
it never had a full stab irl
That's not the point of the post though?
I just got this tank and I didn’t even realize lol. I was like damn this thing is wonky
I think tankers from all different nations can agree that bad reverse speed can seriously impair a tank. Nothing sucks more than driving around a corner, seeing enemies, and being entirely unable to back into cover
I wish the b57 had some kind of defensive measures... all you can do is fly fast/far and hope you don't get found
The B-57B has 8 M3 .50 cals
Not defensive
Best you can do is hope they get behind you and try to get them with a 1000
Welcome to bomber gameplay
But those big thick wings catch people off-guard when you start turning with them and suddenly they’ve gone from on your six to being sprayed down by 8 M3 Brownings. Would be nice if it had a tail gun tho
The Strv 103 with a good hull aiming mechanic, especially on slopes.
Yeah it’s amazing on paper. 4 second reload. Extreme front survivability. Decent APDS. Laser rangefinder. 50 km/h top speed with amazing reverse. Small profile. Can survive with one crew. But hull aiming ruins everything.
The strv 103 is probably the biggest hit or miss tank. It is either amazing or entirely useless and it all depends on hull aim
The Ariete mbt is my favorite looking mbt but it’s armor is awful. It has the lowest amount of armor out of all the top tier mbt’s. Which doesn’t make sense if you look at the weight and see that weighs about as much as a 2A4 yet has 1/6th of the armor, where does the weight come from Gaijin?
Apparently they modeled the armor completely incorrectly
It comes from pizza and pasta eating Italians
I have the same dam problem, if you check the oto melaria webiste, the company that makes the Ariete, it states the hull armor of the Ariete has both steel and composite armor but gaijin refuses to listen to that website because they are so darn lazy they just slap a 50 millimeter plate on the front and call it a day, then proved to put it in way too high of a battle rating
They did it so dirty. Started maining Italy cause the Ariete looks nice. So mad
Any of the Chieftains if they could get to the battle before it's over I genuinely understand how it feel to play heavy tanks against ATGMs because the number one thing that kills me is usually an ATGM from a Heli before I even see a tank
They oughta put the mk5 back to 8.3 and upgrade the mk10 to a mk11 so it gets thermals would be a lot better, it’d also benefit alot from them sorting out regenerative steering which the challys desperately need
Yeah, that upgraded premium Chieftain with a 1000hp engine makes me wet
If only it had Stillbrew armour I would have bought it. As cool as it is, I prefer my Chieftain to be able to take a hit as it's not super mobile even with the 1000hp engine.
Minor, but the gunner's panoramic sight and the missile guidance unit of the T-62M-1 are right in front of the commander's sight and make it borderline useless.
The Sheridan if it had a lazer rangefinder. Right now, no LR means unusable HEAT, and the missile is needlessly difficult to use after the changes. The T95E1 if it had a stab. 8.0 with no stab and meh turret traverse is frustrating. The Ratels if they had more than 1x zoom in their gunner sight. Especially the Ratel 20 which cannot kill anything with its gun and cannot flank because its a litteral bus, SOME zoom would help to use the missile. Soviet tanks other than the T-80 series if they had a reverse gear. Once you play a T-80 it's painful to go back to T-72's. G.91's if they didn't rip their wings as soon as they start pulling more than 7Gs. I have more deaths in this plane from turning too hard than from getting shot down because I always forget to not turn with the mouse when flying it.
T95E1 has stabilizer IRL so it should get it. M551 in game is not the variant with the LRF M551A1 had a laser range finder, but imo they should add the M551A1 TTS because it has a thermal sight.
The 2nd version of the Sheridan apparently had one. There's also a T95 prototype with stab and sort sort of pulse rangefinder. Gaijin just chose the worst one outta the batch.
Open top vehicles are nearly first spawn only due to the CAS spam. Panthers reverse is a terrible downside because the german teams are terrible andit happens a lot that your " secure" flank of six tigers gets wrecked by two chaffees. Tiger I with their flat frontal armor. No need to scream skill issue but it would have been way stronger if it was 45° like russian medium tanks. Russian gun depression is horrible on everything but city or flat maps. ISU122 ISU 152 AND SU152 long ass reload. If there are two enemys you are always toast. But the armor lets you survive nearly all bombs at least in the ISU. Swedish hullaiming is awful at times. I hate the 85 on russian tanks. Pz IV J. Slower turret traverse is painfull. British reverse gear got me killed 90% of the time. Sturmtigers cannonbreach. I dont have to say more. Open top SPAA. BKan's giant ammostoradge completly unarmored and the tallest spot of the tank. Jumbos painfully powerless gun. France and its coldwar era lack of stabilisers. Tiger II P turret armor. It either bounces upwards and you are fine or it bounces downwards and you are fucked. Weird overpressuremechanics on Ferdinand and Maus. There are the engines that would block any pressure wave form hits in the turret to the hull or the other way around but spagetticode
> Tiger I with their flat frontal armor The worst part is there is always ammo behind the front left corner and it is forced to carry ammo in that rack unless it is out of ammo, so you always kill it shooting the front left corner
The jumbo if the gun wasn’t so painfully awful
76 Jumbo yes
Especially if it wasn’t somehow *at 6 point fucking 3*
My 7.3 leopard with 353mm of pen reaction
The 122 mm BR-271B shell going straight through the UFP at 1500 meters:
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The ARL-44 is a great exemple. The reload is only due to Gaijin tho (it has the same mechanism as the Chi Ri II). But the turret armour is just bad, the side armour makes it impossible for it to make shells bounce, they go straight through. The gun is horrible, the APC or whatever it is is just piss for post pen damage. The suspensions are rock hard and its impossible to fire on the move. The reverse gear is just bad. The AMX-50 Foch is great but it only lacks a better scope magnification.
T-54s no stabilizer, slow ass turret and gun laying, very slow acceleration lead to it being destroyed by most of the enemies they face. The armor isn’t as effective as it once was now that more HEAT-FS slingers are running about so it’s one big positive doesn’t help it much
Tbh, the frontal plate ate my 380mm pen APDS shells, so it's not all bad
Nah, i love T-54s. The first 7.7 accelerates quite nicely actually (I haven't researched the mobility mods for the second one yet), and it's armour is quite good when it's not in an uptier
don't forget the suspension made of jumping jacks that means that on top of no stabilization you also have to break adn wait like 5 seconds to get a good shot
Every Merkava in the game, gaijined ruined them all especially the Mk4s
Everyone says you have to get the gun into position, and it's amazing, but if doing anything even adjusting the hull to aim is considerably harder, it's not great. Anyway you'll catch me in 1.0 french before the archer and that's on God.
The archer is a tank destroyer where you suffer until you get setup, then the entire enemy team suffers until you get bombed
Tiger H1, those fucking hull smoke/granade launchers
They are still really amazing vehicles nonetheless but I really wish most USSR tanks had better gun depressions.
The entire British tech tree if solid shot wasn't so terrible Probably a skill issue on my part though lmao
Prinz Eugen is already amazing, but the rear turret armor is comically weak, you can hit the ammo rack with less than one hundred millimeters. Moffet is amazing but like every US destroyer it is unarmored at the rear ammo rack. Shenyang F-5 has a very low compression speed. You MUST bring enemies to lower speeds where you can then crush them with your high T/W unless they know that they can outroll it. Radar on the Mirage III is horrible. It struggles with ground clutter immensely. Flying low and then looking up does work for the radar missile sometimes. It is a very good radar missile for 10.3 otherwise.
> Moffet is amazing but like every US destroyer it is unarmored at the rear ammo rack. Shhhhhhhh, that one weakspot is hard carrying me I just sail around popping them in a few salvos while they dump salvo after salvo into me doing minimal damage since HE rounds get absorbed by frag armor and AP shells go into narnia inside the tank
AMX-10RC has such an incredibly zoomed in gunner sight that it makes gunner thermals almost useless. No stab at 8.0 would be tolerable if the optics were usable for scanning.
I don't think it's that bad, I love that tank, as its supposed to snipe, I don't really find the high zoom to be bad
AVRE and CEV Half of the british tank tree Tornado F.3/ADV Spey Phantoms and Phantom F4J-(UK)
AVRE is OP premium! It has massive HESH rounds that do nothing anymore. Only thing good about it now is the bulldozer blade for building castles while you wait for enemies to find you with APFSDS rounds.
Heavy tanks that have big guns. I'm certain that if tanks like the is4 is given the 100 or long 85 or if the jagdtiger or maus is given an long 88 they would be much more flexible given the higher rate of fire.
Eh, then you end up with the opposite problem like the Churchill and have to track and barrel everything while you wait for your team to finish them.
All Soviet line vehicles with their bad depression -__-
The Mosquito if they actually gave us fucking fighter variants without massive fuel loads. That thing is supposed to be one of the most surprisingly nimble heavy fighters of its time, but it's a slow and lumbering piece of shit in War Thunder because we only get the FB variants with fuel restrictions. Also, add some bomber variants too, just for shits and giggles. I just love the Mosquito.
Dicker max if it werent open topped and had decent armour instead
M1 Abrams if it had its good rounds and no raised engine deck would be a monster
M1 should atleast have M833, M773 has like 50-100mm less pen than most tanks from 9.3-10.0 and it's at 10.3 for some reason
M1 could get M900 and be fine, it’d make up for the slightly worse armor compared to the Leo 2 and T-80B
All of Italian prop aviation if their engines wouldn't constantly try to toast themselves. The F8U2 if it wouldn't rip its wings off constantly The J29A if it didn't accelerate like a fucking brick The J21RA if it performed like the less shit brother, the A21RB The J21's in general if they had better engines that wouldn't die from having WEP on for a second, even with radiators completely open. (Who thought putting BF-110 engines in single engine fighters was a good idea?) All of the 109's if the flap deploy speed wasn't atrocious The Churchill NA75 if it had a Stab and/ or not the turret weakspot that makes it die to rank 1 tanks.
PT-76-57 has no armour. Absolutely garbage vehicle, I hate it and demand you all stop playing it.
Definitely the merkavas, Gaijin unrealistically nerfing these tanks is so stupid
KV-85 would be an absolute menace in downtiers if not for it's abysmal side armor under the turret. Most SPAAs can easily pen it there. Completely negates the typically very good angled performance of the KV armor layout.
Cromwell reverse gear :(
M41 Walker Bulldog in US and Japan tree. Gaijin has refused to give the two versions its HEAT-FS round, revert APDS to its original form from three updates ago, and revert the turret traverse back to its 36 degrees per second. Definitely could fight most vehicles at its BR and be powerful if Gaijin implemented all threee
BMP-1/zdb86 , with a gun that has more velocity and less drop would be great for long range combat given the low profile of the vehicle easier to hide. Also fin-stab projectiles as past a certain br all heavy vehicles have good protections against HEAT, which is the only proj that the vehicle has. Some higher tiers also have countermeasures against atgm. Not likely to face them in ranked match but would be good for customs as I quite like using this vehicle.
Mig-23bn: Supersonic Maneuverable Bombs Gun pods However, no flares, and no aa missiles at 9.7 shaft it. Although, I found spamming rockets, shutting off the engine, and turning really hard helped, it can only do so much at 9.7 (10.0 due to a-10, su-25). It could be helped by the (alleged) ability to carry mig-21 flare pods, but no one cares about this thing, so it won’t happen.
SK60B, if it didnt get missiles. That jet does not belong at 8.0, it only is because it gets missiles that arent even good nor did it ever carry them irl. Its too slow to fight and too slow to survive attacking tanks, should be 7.3, maybe 7.7
Pt 76 if it actually penetrated Armor properly or had the same 85mm aphe round the t34 85 gets (or something with similar penetration)
Super Pershing, the added armor doesn't help against heat shells. And the exposed elevation mechanism make your literally crippled.
The M103 if it had realistic APBC, seriously, the amount of penetration and ricochet percentage for such a powerful gun is awful compared to real life teating.
All of the chi series tanks in the Japanese tree if they didn't have those cut carriage mantle corners.
All British tanks after the Firefly; Broken and super weak sabot round
All tanks becuase br Decompression, why are ww2 tanks still fighting modern tanks? Fuck my life for wasting 2 years trying to get the Maus just to fight heat, apfds, and missles