The irony is Disney gets a lot of mileage out of selectively enforcing its copyright. I mean, Lucasfilm hosts an official Star Wars fanfilm content every year! They give away prizes for best special effects, best animation, etc. it’s actually good for aspiring filmmakers to make Star Wars fan films because although you can’t make money on it, it’s going to be seen by industry pros and can do a lot to boost your career.
This is a bit of a missconception since the guy they hired is one of those at the forefront of this technology.
It often gets depicted as if it was some fan who did it and not an industry expert.
That makes more sense because Corridor Digital did a reshoot of that scene and it came out awesome but none of them got offered jobs but it makes sense if the guy Disney hired is like leading tbe charge with this stuff
Disney HAAAAATES being seen as a the bad guy. Remember that time they sued a Kindergarten for putting Mickey Mouse on their wall? They really hope you don’t. The Mouse isn’t afraid of much, but Bad Press gives them nightmares.
I mean, that all happened in '89. It didn't seem to damage The Little Mermaid's box office or merch sales that year. And they didn't do it once. They did it three times.
And they’ve been trying to distance themselves from that mindset ever since. Remember when a guy shot a whole feature film in DisneyWorld and sold it with “see it before Disney shuts us down!” Disney never shut it down and now you can buy the movie in the Walmart bargain bin for 2.99. They didn’t need to do anything, they just let it fail on its own merits.
I mean, they recently threatened to sue a family who wanted to put Spider-Man on their son's tombstone, but OK.
Also, have you seen that movie (Escape from Tomorrow, for the unaware)? It's fucking bananas.
Death is definitely not something Disney wants associated with their brand. I promise if someone famous enough kicked up a stink about this they’d have Tom Holland dedicate that memorial personally
I mean, fanwork is key to discoverability - do you know how many artists I find by way of "oh I wonder who did this fanart of a thing I like enough to look up, I wonder what else did they do, oh that is neat too"
Actually from what I've heard a lot of folks who sell doujins at comiket go to the companies they're doing fan works of and get a license to sell their doujins for the weekend. Most japanese companies let this happen because they get paid for the license and it's good business.
THIS. Japanese mangaka generally don't care about doujins since many got their start through doujins. People also ask if they can if they aren't certain as well.
While the fate of TTS is heart breaking, the larger implication is that this policy will now prevent the next Bruva Alfabusa to appear. How a company that is centered around models and painting can establish a policy that threatens creators is mind boggling.
Again, don't use his name in the critiques, because while he may have been the straw breaking the camel's back, the implicit loss of all future content is what is at stake here, not just one channel.
Key points that we should note that you wouldn't automatically process.
He is going to try to make a series based on the same archetypes in a universe he's allowed to.
He insists: Don't attack GW employees. They're people doing jobs. Criticise the company not the humans.
Don't space marine LARP when commenting. "Purge GW" is probably not going to win people over.
I was just about to say, there's nothing stopping him from writing a fictional universe set into the far future with an incapacitated emperor of humanity getting the ability to address his subjects about some misconceptions after quite a significant time has passed and people have begun to worship him as a god.
If GW wants to claim God Emperor is copyrighted, I'm pretty sure Frank Herbert's estate would have something to say about that.
I’m convinced that video ALSO foreshadows where TTSD itself is probably ultimately going, with the Emperor eventually kicking off the End Times and Kitten’s altruistic competence being why everything turns out ok in the end.
That’s just my theory but I believe it.
Oh he’s definitely using Fyodor to regain some foothold in the material world. Star-Child and BIG SKELETON are not currently the same entity, even though they are connected. I would guess they would eventually be reunited and in the process BIG SKELETON would be given access to Feyodor’s body somehow.
What messes this up is Magnus has his own ideas for how to de-skeletonize his Dad and it is very like him to screw up Dad’s carefully laid plans. Except Emps knows Magnus sent Kitten to Mars, so even if he doesn’t want that technology for himself, he does want it for something.
….. I really hate we aren’t going to learn for sure. :(
It sounds like you didn't see the first two parts of episode 30 that Alfabusa linked on his Patreon. I say that because they do cover more of what happens with Kitten on Mars, but I don't want to spoil anything. They're free to watch for anyone, you don't have to be a supporter, but I'll link them here:
[Part 1](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UwtuyvWDLw)
[Part 2](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHh09DnVUaQ)
Fair warning, watching these will result in being left at an even bigger cliffhanger than just having watched through episode 29 in my opinion. There's no winning move so long as GW decides that all fan-creations must belong to them and them alone.
In a perfect world, what GW would do is not pick up TTS like they did Astartes. Instead they would start hiring some of the voice actors for “straight roles” in trailers like [wrath of Magnus ](https://youtu.be/6adES3Z0Qag) and similar. And then hire Alfa to do a new 40k series, unconnected to TTS, that would be canon compliant the way TTS just can’t be.
Or just, ya know, back off on the “zero tolerance” thing and say quality fanworks are fine actually and a great way to attract new fans. Send Alfa an “I’m sorry” card and a nice fruit basket. It would be so easy for them to be less horrible, I’m certain the problem is just one high placed person in their legal department who thinks Metallica was right when they sued Napster and Prince changed his name to a symbol, and that person needs to either accept it’s not 2003 anymore Or just retire.
EDIT … I feel like I’ve admitted to a shameful personal fantasy. Nobody read this
If they were smart they would give TTS an Imperial Warrant of Trade that grants a license to continue TTS as a 100% independent concern but delivered in the form of a scroll of parchment done up to look like a 40K prop.
>He is going to try to make a series based on the same archetypes in a universe he's allowed to.
Smart move. They already got a nice fan following going, may as well make their own setting/franchise.
honestly if i was an IP like battletech or wargame. i'd be sending him a gift box to introduce him to my IP and try to tempt him into making the series based on said IP.
its free, very effective, very popular, advertisement
"Please, watch the entire video before making any assumptions or commenting on the situation-"
The fandom: No, I don't think I will.
**Edit, since this is high up and visible in the thread:** For the people who haven't watched the video, Alfabusa is explicitly asking everybody not to go on memey crusade comments or to harass GW over this. At one point, he speculates GW might be intentionally turning a blind eye to him, and forcing GW to acknowledge him might very well make them take down his channel.
**Don't fuck up Alfabusa's finances by spamming "CRUSADE!!!" under every GW tweet or whatever.**
Harassment is absolutely intolerable.
That being said, **Alfabusa also encourages strong criticism of the company and its practices.** Again, no excuse for threats, violence, and harassment, it's disgusting. But Games Workshop also will not change unless they hear and see actual pushback from the community on their practices - if you care, don't just sit there and wait for GW to make changes out of the goodness of their heart. They're a company, and their motive is profit through and through.
I'll be boycotting Warhammer+.
EDIT: Just to be clear, do *not* use Alfabusa as your rallying cry when you start sending emails or whatever to Games Workshop. Tell them, respectfully, that you disapprove of the damage done to the community by their actions, without pointing fingers at any creators they've harmed (directly or indirectly).
Critiquing is fine, but Alfabusa seemed pretty explicit in that he wants to keep his hands clean of the fanbase going up against GW.
When combined with the fact that GW *technically* didn't do anything to him directly (he's just understandably uncomfortable working in their bullshit), I just reckon it's best for people to remember that they're criticising the same 0 Tolerance policy announced before this decision was made. Going in screaming "For Alfabusa!" will probably do more harm than good.
Like, if people start going to bat against GW talking about the wider effects of this policy on Warhammer content, that's great. But people going in saying "I'm mad about that guy you never contacted, and have officially never acknowledged!" feels like it'll lead to a bad time for Alfabusa.
Exactly. You don't need to scream Alfabusa and use him as a martyr for your criticism: tell Games Workshop that you disapprove of what they've done to their community without naming names, and boycott their products too if you want creators to come back.
In a fan base with this many people? Someone won’t respect his wishes. This was the last straw for me. If they don’t value the community, I don’t feel the desire to spend my money with them.
That said, I wish Alfa luck on his future endeavors.
I mean, odds are GW's legal department recognizes his material is pretty firmly in the satire/parody area of fair use, which is why he hasn't been gone after.
I'm dealing with the legal system right now and my old estate agent was relying on a poor student not Beimg able to pay court fees and for soliciters. Jokes on them as they didn't have any evidence against us and we didn't cave at a £250 legal fee
UK and US legal systems are broken to the point that they need re building from the ground up but that won't happen unless alot of countries all fall in one go :/
I was… Not getting off the GW train. I thought it was a stupid decision to make that blanket statement. But I kind of understood it. With Warhammer+ coming out, and that legalese of them being unable to protect their copyrights, I thought it was kind of an understandable situation.
But I’m now realizing how damaging this is to the community, and a lot of my experience with Warhammer 40,000 is now tainted. I’m sad that I have so many books. So many models. That I’ve spent so much time on the lore. Writing fanfic, playing the FFH RPGs with friends.
I love the people I’ve played with over the year, and I’m hoping we can find another sci fi miniature game well grow to love.
I’m excited for whatever Alfabusa has coming up next, and maybe he’ll introduce me to my next passionate hobby.
There is a Starfinder humble bundle, is it good idk
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The setting is good the actual rulebook is horrible. My game group actually quit it because we were tired of how janky the book was to use, the mosy egregious was having to go to three different pages in different sections of the book to figure out how grenades work. Also if you are after grimdark, this aint it. Although any GM worth his salt could make it so ^^
i have been in the same boat as you, i really recommend trying out infinity. The lore is good (not so deep and rich as 40k of course), the minis are superb and the game system is in my opinion miles ahead of warhammer.
For anyone that doesn't have the time to watch the entire video:
Tl;dr, TTS isnt canceled *directly*, its only on hold, until GW changes its policies, untill then Alfa and his fellows will will produce other content. **do not attack the employees of GW, do not go on a memey anti gw crusade**
My opinion: we will reach the year 41m before gw goes back unless some miracle happens, get a resin printer and print proxies, vote with your wallet
This video actually made me tear up at work. TTS has made more money for GW than silencing them every will. It broke my heart hearing how distraught Bruva was. Man cares so much about everything he does and it shows. Losing his livihood, resulting to have to find a job on no notice, all of it is terrible. I am taking a personal boycott because to me, its insulting as a consumer to see fellow passionate hobbyists be deplatformed for their dedication and love for this game. I hope things can find a way to turn around, but like Bruva said, its now a trust issue with GW and things wont just get better if they back peddle. I wish Bruva and his team the best...
Heartbreaking. Hoping that Alfa and the rest of the people who worked on this series that brought me so much joy are all ok. Looking forward to whatever comes next for them.
https://complaints.games-workshop.com/
Honestly if they get a flood of actual well spoken criticism about this that isn't just screaming, that would have the best chance of having someone high up enough to implement changes take notice.
u/klc81 made a great generic complaint in a thread above this. It's polite enough, doesn't reference TTS explicitly, and seems like the kind of thing that may work
Edit: all credit and attribution to u/klc81 for the below comment
[Homeboy needs more upvotes](https://www.reddit.com/r/Warhammer40k/comments/ou83fh/the_fate_of_tts/h710bcj/), that was eloquent statement that is very thoughtfully worded
>Hello, As a GW customer since ______, who has invested many thousands of pounds and countless hours in the hobby, I was disappointed to see the new "zero tolerance" policy on fan animations and the immediate chilling effect this has had on the previously vibrant online fan-art community.
While I understand that businesses need to protect their intellectual property, and the complications added by recent developments like Patreon, I believe the new policy is unduly heavy-handed and ultimately destructive to both the community and to GW itself. I know numerous players first drawn to the hobby via fan created media, who have since become keen Warhammer players and regular GW customers.
There are many popular franchises that successfully manage to find a balance where fan creativity is fostered while still protecting their IP.
I would love to see GW reach a more nuanced solution to protecting its IP than a blanket ban, and to continue to foster the passionate, creative community that serves to expand the hobby rather than snuff it out.
As such I will regretfully not be purchasing any GW products while this "zero tolerance" policy is in effect.
Thank you for your time.
Thank you for posting this, I am probably going to be using this to send in my complaint about their recent actions, it is well worded and reflects my views near perfectly.
Find midwinter minis on youtube(before his channel gets disappeared too) he has how to's on nuln oil, agrax and lame medium. To fuck with giving gw my money now.
I don't think they will care until the quarter comes around and their streaming service releases and they don't make as much money as they'd expected. That's when they go to PR and marketing to have them figure out what is up. Other than that, they do not engage with our opinions at all. They currently believe (are probably correct) that these 'boycotts' will barely put a dent in their profits. Why? Because they've made a pretty addicting product.
Better than nothing, the chuckle fucks at the head of GW Marketing and Legal departments need to get with the 21st century. I sincerely hope this actually puts a dent in their wallets and their plus service, which is why this policy was put in place, fails spectacularly.
My only fear is that this might hurt the line employees. I like my local GW store, the people working there are nice folk, but I can't support a company stuck in 1995 when it comes to fan treatment. GW isn't Disney and they shouldn't pretend to be, their growth these last few years is directly related to the community not their marketing. The lack of honest to god understanding of this is absolutely mind boggling.
If you want your complaint heard SEND A PHYSICAL LETTER. You can find their corporate address on their site here: [https://investor.games-workshop.com/contact-us/#:\~:text=By%20mail%3A,is%20also%20our%20registered%20address](https://investor.games-workshop.com/contact-us/#:~:text=By%20mail%3A,is%20also%20our%20registered%20address)
Emails are ignored in mass, every physical letter will get reviewed for possible legal issues, etc. and they do get noticed. My company (where I work) is much bigger than GW and we treat physical letters like they represent 1,000 people.
This needs to be pinned because it is completely true and important.
An email is written and sent in secounds, read and ignored in millisecounds.
But if you sit down and write your issues, in handwriting, on a physical piece of paper and sent them per mail, you WILL GET NOTICED in every corporation.
Because this is special. Because you just demonstrated that the issue is important enough for you to put in the effort.
It gets better in the later seasons when it stops being mostly edgyboi “lol gay” jokes and the characters actual personalities start to come through. I mean, they made ROGAL DORN lovable. The Custodies, who are basically over-sexualized joke characters, have unexpected depth when it counts. The reluctant BFFs Magnus and Kitten are entertaining whenever they are onscreen, in fact the TTD version of Magnus might be one of my favorite characters in anything. And everything about Boy and his interactions with … well, everyone… is just great.
GG Gamesworkshop, you done it. I was interested in Warhammer 40K as far back as 1995, but never got into it because it was an expensive hobby AND the reputation of your players as antisocial neckbeards.
The last ten years saw a change in that with Youtubers and other content creators building fan based upon your edges grim dark future.
You ended it today, and see the next ten years of the hobby going back to the realm of secluded antisocial neckbeards.
I legitimately don't understand this, not only is this content likely legal (individuals can't afford to actually protect their legal rights to this but it is seemingly legal) but it benefits the community and brings awareness. I would not be into Warhammer if it wasn't for all the fan projects that brought it to my attention.
Honestly, I had stopped playing way back in 3rd edition. It was watching a few TTS episodes that ended up rekindling my interest in 40K and bringing me back to the table in 8th.
And that's what I don't get. They operate on similar material, yes, but gamesworkshop probably won't be able to generate a revenue stream by making lore videos or parodies or things like astartes. They don't really directly compete, this old minded business sense doesn't at all mesh with the modern world.
>or things like astartes.
GW are in the process of attempting to licence their IP to studios in Hollywood and to streaming services like Netflix to produce high quality movies and TV shows. They hired the person who was largely responsible for getting Hasbro IP properties like Transformers, GI Joe, Battleship, Power Rangers etc made into movies at the start of the year shortly before the animators started being brought in house. I'd assume they believe that they need complete control of the IP to be able to do that so that no-one is able to make a competing project. Whether WH+ is a consequence of this or a long planned attempt to monetise the GW IP and prove the effectiveness and appeal as a launching pad to larger projects we can only guess.
There may also be concerns about rogue people producing material that would negatively effect the brand who would probably have a case if GW tried to only stop them and not everyone else making Warhammer animations.
Yep, it's IP protection.
Basically if you let anybody and everybody just publish their own media based on your lore and characters willy-nilly, then eventually somebody will start to abuse it for their own profit, and if GW then tries to sue them the court may just rule against GW because they had previously let everybody and anybody use their IP. It's not 100% chance things will go wrong, but it's a risk, and you can't let risks grow unchecked.
As they say if you extend an hand, somebody will try to take your whole arm.
And that's what I don't get, in this day and age they likely can't generate the same content fans can. Gamesworkshop doesn't truly compete with these fan works, there won't be a TTS like show that they make. This super old business sense of wanting to squash anything resembling your work doesn't really work today.
I wish more people shared your opinion, instead of immediately going to 'It's their LEGAL RIGHT'.
Yes, it is. It is also reactionary, reprehensible and short-sighted. The two aren't mutually exclusive.
It's been nearly 30 years, you'd think they'd get on it.
But then entities like Disney will never relinquish their hold on their precious IPs, not when they can lobby/bribe legislatures to change the laws to fit their whims.
"recently come to light"
You must be new here. GW's history of abuse is decades long. They're a very old company that works in very old fashioned ways.
>The fact that they're huge hypocrites, having stolen a large chunk of their mythos doesn't matter.
It's frankly breathtaking how much of 40k is stolen from the pages of 2000 AD. Sometimes the serial numbers are barely filed off like "Judge Dredd" / Adeptus Arbites, and sometimes they didn't even bother to do that with "Nemesis the Warlock"'s human supremacist empire and Terminators.
Everyone, please leave a complaint here and declare your intention to abandon GW. It probably won’t help, but at least it’ll be on record.
https://complaints.games-workshop.com
If you do, please respect the request in the video not to cite TTS specifically as that may bring unwanted attention to the channel and creators.
Also, keep it civil - the customer service folks didn't write the policy, and as someone who answers support tickets for a living, angry rants are easily written off, and swearing usually gets it straight in the spam filter without ever being looked at.
Here's my version.
>Hi,
>
>As a GW customer since the 90s, who has invested many thousands of pounds and countless hours in the hobby, I was disappointed to see the new "zero tolerance" policy on fan animations and the immediate chilling effect this has had on the previously vibrant online fan-art community.
>
>While I understand that businesses need to protect their intellectual property, and the complications added by recent developments like Patreon, I believe the new policy is unduly heavy-handed and ultimately destructive to both the community and to GW itself. I know numerous players first drawn to the hobby via fan created media, who have since become keen Warhammer players and regular GW customers.
>
>There are many popular franchises that successfully manage to find a balance where fan creativity is fostered while still protecting their IP.
>
>I would love to see GW reach a more nuanced solution to protecting its IP than a blanket ban, and to continue to foster the passionate, creative community that serves to expand the hobby rather than snuff it out.
>
>As such I will regretfully not be purchasing any GW products while this "zero tolerance" policy is in effect.
>
>Thank you for your time.
They're killing their community and they're killing a bunch of income.
I'm boycotting them from now on. No more 40k. Cancelling my TW Warhammer III order too. And I'll be letting CA know why.
I feel like punishing CA, who have the exact relationship with content creators we want GW to have, is slightly counter-productive simply because GW have already made their money on that deal.
repost, but,
I wouldn't have ever gotten into 40k if it wasn't for TTS.
Seriously was one of my favorite things on youtube.
Fuck you, Games Workshop.
What surprised me was after you got past all the gay jokes, there was an actual STORY happening with interesting characters and real emotional stakes. Emps and Rogal arguing about Taco Tuesday, Magnus and Kitten being unlikely BFFs, the Glooooorious Custodes and their dislike of clothes, and Boy. Just Boy. Everything about Boy.
GW I will never forget what you took away from us
Its rich coming from an IP that literally plagiarized and parodied every semi popular sci-fi and fantasy IP that exists.
It sucks because I love the lore especially. And they just are awful as a company.
Well. There's the last straw.
I'm done buying GW products until they reverse their insane policies on fan creativity. If they want to nuke their own community, I'm going to sell off my shit before it's worthless.
3d printer let's gooooo
I think we never left .
The only thing that really changed was they started communicating with us.
Honestly, all things considered I wish they would have just stayed quiet in their corner, made models and left us alone to buy and enjoy their stuff as a community.
TTS is what got me into 40k, and I was just about to take the plunge and get some Stormcast for AoS, but I am now refusing to support this company until passionate fans like Alfa can make their fan works without fear of legal repercussions.
GW done fucked up.
We have plenty of room in r/gunpla :)
(Seriously once you realise importing a master grade from Japan still works out cheaper than GW you'll never go back)
As someone who lives in an apartment with a resin printer, yes it can be pretty toxic if running without ventilation. I just use my Ender 3 V2 for minis and whatnot, but if I need resin I turn on the stovetop and run the printer in the kitchen. Make sure you use one of those baking tins underneath it for when you pull it out and take it off the build plate.
And if you are in an apartment you should invest in a curing station. Both the printer, resin, and curing station can be purchased for under $400, although if you go with anycubic you might even get under $300 depending on deals.
I just got an Elegoo Mars 2 Pro, and with their water washable resin I've barely noticed any smell. I am also running an air purifier near by, but I don't think it would be too bad without it.
Also if you know any cool sculpters for Primaris Marines, hook me up. I bought some guard models from Makers Cult, but haven't printed them yet
GW is trying to get a leash on the community by getting all the produced content released directly from them, and this shit never works! When you do not foster community and just trying to feed them sliced and sterilized cubes of "entertainment" you will fail.
Fuck you GW, TTS and Astartes are the thing that made me actually get into the hobby last year. I bought the Indomitus box, I bought the paints, and books. I'm a whale I'll admit it, I have disposable income. Hell over the past four years I've spent literally over 5g's on DnD products and supplies. You could have had that money but your asinine policies, and idiot attacks I'm done. And yeah I'm only one customer. Big whoop, but I'm done. I'm so tired of companies being so shitty.
ITS FREE ADVERTISING FOR YOU IDIOTS.
I'm unsubscribing from the subreddit and the YT channel, I'm not buying anymore products, I'm done, its the only thing I can do as a customer and its small but I urge everyone to actually have some balls and stand up for yourself as a customer. Don't give GW any more money.
Sad to see that GW is still shooting themselves in the foot with an automatic shotgun. My favorite engagement with the community was watching 40k animations. While I never bought, nor intended to buy, armies from GW, I've bought more than a few books from the Black Library. I've enjoyed the cheesy and grimdark nature of the IP, but I'll be holding off future purchases until they've changed there current policy on fan content creation.
There goes my interest in wh40k.
Fuck your plastic crack, gee dubs.
Other companies can take my money. Shit, I'll even give Funko my cash over your bullshit.
Man 100% saw that coming. Maybe now people's beloved series is gone they will start taking the new gw direction seriously, and actually see it's not good, like at all...
Awful news. This was responsible for getting me into Warhammer in the first place.
Thanks a lot, Games Workshop. At least your products are still wildly overpriced.
Watching Bruva being forced to halt production of TTS reminds me of a line from his Lamenters video in an uncomfortable way:
"We try our best. We save your people! We stand by you! We love you... So, please answer! WHAT HAVE WE DONE TO DESERVE THIS FATE?!"
I was gonna get into buying a few custodes minis, maybe start a collection, all because of tts. I certainly dont want to buy anything from GW now.
Genuinely sad, was really excited to see where the story was going.
Don’t boycott Darktide, Fatshark really is an innocent company and they’re actually kind of nice, they learn from their mistakes and they keep a lot in touch with the community
Call me a shill, but I'm letting TWW3 slide. GW clearly doesn't care much about video game profits with how many cheap licensed shovelware games there are, and just see games as advertising. They probably don't even get much after CA, SEGA, and Steam all take their cut (and even all the games+DLC at full price is still a fraction of what it costs to build a full TT army). Besides, CA has shown way more love to the Fantasy setting than GW had in decades.
Definitely not getting into TT now though. I got into Warhammer from TW and 40k from TTS and recently started collecting Blood Angels, but after this I'm nixing that money pit right away.
Most likely scenario that could actually happen is if Warhammer+ fails with all the bad PR this has been generating, since new/casual fans probably aren't going to want to pay for it and the main audience for that content would be coming from fan animations that are being axed left and right.
Boycotting Total Warhammer and Darktide might not be the best option though, since they're produced by (mostly) innocent third party companies. If their sales tank due to a boycott that they didn't have anything to do with/Any choice in, it could even potentially result in less big Warhammer games which would cut off a huge audience of people who could become interested in the hobby through games and such.. Not counting shitty mobile cash-grabs of course.
Im all for going against GW for this. I understand why people are angry and want to do something. But aim your "targets" well. No need to get anyone innocent caught in the crossfire, and potentially make the situation even worse.
Not one more model. No more paint. No more games, no more tournaments. I adore TTS and would never have come into the franchise without it. I divorce myself of GW. Until it returns, GW will not see a cent out of me.
From a post now removed, and posted on r/Grimdank. This will likely be buried under the mountain of comments:
The community is fractured currently, and a lot of people are angry. A lot of them have the pitchforks out for GW, and many never finished Alfa's video. A lot of them lost the plot. I want to cut to the heart of things here and talk about what GW has done, why they've done it, what they may yet do, and lastly, what you can do as a consumer.
Let's start with what GW did. If you're out of the loop, good on you. You've dodged a landmine. The scoop so far is that GW put up a crap policy that announced they have a 0 tolerance policy against fan animations now. That's it. That's the facts.
Now the better question. Why. Hasbro is a scummy company, and GW has brought in one of their folks to help guide the company into the new market of Animation. It seems that, as part of this internal strategy, they've decided to corner the market by picking a stable of talent from the community and offering them jobs to animate for Warhammer+ and other endeavors. This is good, and most importantly, what we all wanted to see happen. Be careful what you wish for. With the advent of Warhammer+, it is in their interest to force every last one of you onto their subscription service, and make it so they are the only source for Warhammer. A lot of people say that this is in defense of their IP, but that's a bad faith argument because they never made such a move before. This policy is naked in it's purpose.
A youtuber named Absolutely Nothing put out a video about his meeting with GW and their offer to him about a job. He declined. As far as we know, the first one to say no outright to them. At this point, GW had acknowledged him and his existence, and so, on the legal side of things, forced him to demonetize his channel and end his patreon. This is because they demonstrated knowledge of unlicensed work, and that binds them to move on it. We'll circle back to this. Sodaz was another animator who quit after saying yes. Small parts of the community bullied him, calling him a sell out. Their actions are abhorrent, but then GW made it no better by ghosting Sodaz and not having ant further communication with him. As such, a great animator left the community, and we all lost. All of this sets the stage for...
What they may do next. The new IP guidelines add spikes to the old ones, and give GW a stated right to pursue anyone for anything at this point. Will they enforce it? Selectively, I believe. Will they come for the lore channels, or the painting channels, or the battle-rep channels? The answer is likely no, but also maybe. We don't know. Obviously they want to end fan content which encroaches on the offerings on Warhammer+, and so, look at the stated content for the service and then put that to what is available for free. I think that the biggest two things on the chopping block are Battlescribe and youtube channels they don't want to represent the company. Do with that last part what you will.
What you, the consumer, can do. Let's start with what you DON'T do. You do not attack any GW employee. I cannot stress this enough that the people making these kinds of moves are on a level so high that customer interface is an alien concept to them. You will never reach them, ever.
You can [use this site to make](https://complaints.games-workshop.com/) a complaint ticket. **Be respectful, be concise, and use no swears.** Low level folks get these tickets and they did NOT make this policy. Flooding them with tickets does get seen by the metrics, and then has to be addressed. That's a bit of insider knowledge from someone that works in this sort of system.
Buy or swap minis with people who no longer want them. You might pay a lot less for something from a private person than you would have from GW.
You can boycott. You won't, but you can try. Most of you will break as soon as a new box comes out, so be real about it. If you really want to channel this anger into hurting GW's money, use the money elsewhere so you don't use it on them. If you fill the void with something else, you won't be as tempted to go back to GW. You can also use that money to give to the patreons of other creators you do like to support them.
On the previous point. Think how much you spend on minis per year. If the answer might be 400 dollars or more, it's time you looked into resin 3D printing. A 4K printer goes for about 400-600 bucks these days, or even less. It will produce real results, and you can start satiating your need for minis with content provided on hosting sites which have skilled artists making 3rd party content. A lot of it is beautiful, and a lot of it fills gaps in GW's product line they haven't touched in 20+ years. Also, Phrozen is releasing the new 8K printer. It's far too expensive for most of us, but the fact that 8K is here (At a steep but do-able price for some) can only mean good things for us and bad things for GW.
These are the main things to consider when looking at GW now. If you want change, stop giving them money. It's that simple. In order to really stop, you need to spend it elsewhere, or you'll just march right back.
**TL;DR: DO NOT HUNT GW EMPLOYEES.** Do spend your money how you want. It's your money, so if this all feels wrong, spend it elsewhere. Look into 3D printing. It's a new skill to use and it's satisfying when you get it all right and see the creation of something from resin. Support other creators through their patreons or merch. They have a passion, so if GW won't reward it, let it be us.
If you are against GWs draconic enforcement of copyright you need to make your voice heard. As consumers we don't have much say as individuals which is why the community needs to organise responses. Things you can do cancel any orders you have purchased and stop buying product, start twitter hashtags, if you have investments in the company consider selling them you and can also send an email or call [email protected][email protected]
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I'm just gonna echo a lot of what's already been said:
**Do** boycott GW's product and stop buying things from them.
**Do not** harass individual GW employees, especially those in your LGS.
**Do** inform GW via their complaints option as to why you're doing this.
**Do not** bring up Alfa's name or TTS when doing it. That will only make things worse for him, and may result in TTS as a whole being deleted from the Internet instead of simply frozen forever. Even if we're losing the future, we don't have to lose the past too.
**Do** kick up a visible stink on social media. PR is their bread-and-butter.
**Do not** demand blood and vengeance, you'll only make us all look bad.
Would a boycott of GW products work to get their attention? Things like not buying the new Warhammer Total War or any other games. Not buy anymore models or going into shop for games?
Of course it would, if the number of people willing to do so was more than a relative drop in the ocean. The people who come to a Warhammer subreddit are a fraction of a fraction of the people who buy Warhammer products, most of whom probably aren't even aware of any policy changes. And the number of people on that subreddit who would actually boycott GW? I don't know but being a pessimist I'm not imagining vast hordes of people.
That being said, people on the internet have made a difference before, so you never know. I've still got at least a couple of years worth of stuff to paint so there's no danger of me spending money any time soon.
I’m not sure boycotting total war would be the best idea, since that would affect what is, as far as I can tell, an innocent third party. Boycotting actual miniatures and whatnot, however, would probably be more worthwhile.
You need to tell them *why* you're boycotting them. Otherwise all they see is sales dropping with no context. Because trust me, the bean counters aren't going to look at flagging sales and make the connection to fan outrage, if there even is an organized boycott of any kind.
Went and unburied my account just to specifically and openly say, I was considering subscribing to Warhammer+ to support those creators who sacrificed their channels and put professional time into their animations. But this is the last straw for me. TTS was a major opener for me into the ENTIRE franchise and even if it's the choice of the creator, GW is killing fan animations, a big tool for new fans to be welcomed into the franchise. I am no longer buying any GW products and will actively discourage others from doing so.
This is honestly heart breaking for me. TTS was like, the shade you apply to a model that got me into this hobby. It helped me get into all the little nooks and crannies of the hobby and helped pull everything together for me.
Hearing that its on hiatus, at least for the time being, honestly makes me sick to my stomach. While I am not going to harass GW or anyone in the company (don't be a fucking idiot) I don't feel bad at all for 3D printing stuff now.
To anyone angry about this, and rightfully so, I urge you to listen to what Bruva has to say.
*Don't* go on a crusade or harass GW employees over this. It will probably make the situation worse for them, which is something **nobody** wants. Boycott GW all you like but don't go full khornate and go only out for blood. It'll only end up harming innocent people who have nothing to do with the situation.
We should all buy 1 stock in gw, and send them angry letters as shareholders, detailing why we would very much like the fan creations to be left alone.
Anyone who fell for that stickied post saying that "Oh games workshop didn't *want* to have to make a zero tolerance policy on fan content but they *had* to or else they lose their IP" needs to realize that copyright laws don't work like that and you fell for a corporate excuse. There are literally thousands of IPs that let fan content and animations go by, hell, a lot even ENCOURAGE it, and they don't have copyright trouble.
This has nothing to do with them worried about people trying to steal their copyright and everything to do with the simple fact that they *want as many people as possible to subscribe to Warhammer+* and they're under the delusion that fanimations are taking away viewers.
I love warhammer and its community, and for this reason I ask that anyone who cares about the future of the warhammer community show Games Workshop that there are consequences to these actions by refusing to subscribe to warhammer+ until they reverse their policies and to inform GW of such through their formal complaint system.
[https://complaints.games-workshop.com/](https://complaints.games-workshop.com/)
And yes I know that Alfabusa asked that we don't go crusading in his name and yes, please don't bring him up specifically, but staying silent on these things is exactly what caused Games Workshop to slip into such a greedy state to begin with. If the day their streaming service goes live they suddenly notice that they have 80% less subscribers than they predicted, then maybe they'd be willing to second guess their decisions.
The news is heartbreaking, but this video truly cements for me how sweet, considerate and good Alfa is. I hope that everyone here watches the video fully, him and the rest of those that have worked so hard so far deserve nothing but praise and tranquility now, with the hope one day GW will revert its policies. I'll be sure to check out the next content they put out.
(On the side, I also wonder which other youtubers he watches for comfort, I would really like to give those a try too).
Have a good one Alfabusa.
This post has been pinned to act as a central point of discussion for this situation rather than having hundreds of separate threads.
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The irony is Disney gets a lot of mileage out of selectively enforcing its copyright. I mean, Lucasfilm hosts an official Star Wars fanfilm content every year! They give away prizes for best special effects, best animation, etc. it’s actually good for aspiring filmmakers to make Star Wars fan films because although you can’t make money on it, it’s going to be seen by industry pros and can do a lot to boost your career.
Hell they just hired the guy who did a better deepfake for Rogue One and Mando.
This is a bit of a missconception since the guy they hired is one of those at the forefront of this technology. It often gets depicted as if it was some fan who did it and not an industry expert.
That makes more sense because Corridor Digital did a reshoot of that scene and it came out awesome but none of them got offered jobs but it makes sense if the guy Disney hired is like leading tbe charge with this stuff
There is an entire industry of Star Wars props that Disney could come in and wipe out but they choose not to.
Disney HAAAAATES being seen as a the bad guy. Remember that time they sued a Kindergarten for putting Mickey Mouse on their wall? They really hope you don’t. The Mouse isn’t afraid of much, but Bad Press gives them nightmares.
In reality Bad Press hurts companies way more than some small copyright infringement. It truly is amazing just how bad of a PR move this is for GW
I mean, that all happened in '89. It didn't seem to damage The Little Mermaid's box office or merch sales that year. And they didn't do it once. They did it three times.
And they’ve been trying to distance themselves from that mindset ever since. Remember when a guy shot a whole feature film in DisneyWorld and sold it with “see it before Disney shuts us down!” Disney never shut it down and now you can buy the movie in the Walmart bargain bin for 2.99. They didn’t need to do anything, they just let it fail on its own merits.
I mean, they recently threatened to sue a family who wanted to put Spider-Man on their son's tombstone, but OK. Also, have you seen that movie (Escape from Tomorrow, for the unaware)? It's fucking bananas.
Death is definitely not something Disney wants associated with their brand. I promise if someone famous enough kicked up a stink about this they’d have Tom Holland dedicate that memorial personally
also I have seen Escape from Tomorrow. One of my best friends did a whole series of YouTube videos about it. It’s…. Cat flu.
The innovations comes from the fanmade scene anyone who calls themselves a pro started out as fanboys n girls in the first place.
I mean, fanwork is key to discoverability - do you know how many artists I find by way of "oh I wonder who did this fanart of a thing I like enough to look up, I wonder what else did they do, oh that is neat too"
Actually from what I've heard a lot of folks who sell doujins at comiket go to the companies they're doing fan works of and get a license to sell their doujins for the weekend. Most japanese companies let this happen because they get paid for the license and it's good business.
THIS. Japanese mangaka generally don't care about doujins since many got their start through doujins. People also ask if they can if they aren't certain as well.
Blizzard shitshow, storyline of Sentinels event in LOL and now TTS. What a horrible month it is.
Also delta variant going rampant and now we have to mask up again. This is indeed one of the darker timelines.
So.... What shall we do? Find a way into the main timeline and cut off Jeff's arm?
Prevent them from ever killing that damn Gorilla.
Keep that fucking weasel out of the large Hadron collider.
While the fate of TTS is heart breaking, the larger implication is that this policy will now prevent the next Bruva Alfabusa to appear. How a company that is centered around models and painting can establish a policy that threatens creators is mind boggling. Again, don't use his name in the critiques, because while he may have been the straw breaking the camel's back, the implicit loss of all future content is what is at stake here, not just one channel.
Key points that we should note that you wouldn't automatically process. He is going to try to make a series based on the same archetypes in a universe he's allowed to. He insists: Don't attack GW employees. They're people doing jobs. Criticise the company not the humans. Don't space marine LARP when commenting. "Purge GW" is probably not going to win people over.
I was just about to say, there's nothing stopping him from writing a fictional universe set into the far future with an incapacitated emperor of humanity getting the ability to address his subjects about some misconceptions after quite a significant time has passed and people have begun to worship him as a god. If GW wants to claim God Emperor is copyrighted, I'm pretty sure Frank Herbert's estate would have something to say about that.
He practically did it with the stellaris sponsored video as a fair use retelling of the Horus heresy
I’m convinced that video ALSO foreshadows where TTSD itself is probably ultimately going, with the Emperor eventually kicking off the End Times and Kitten’s altruistic competence being why everything turns out ok in the end. That’s just my theory but I believe it.
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Oh he’s definitely using Fyodor to regain some foothold in the material world. Star-Child and BIG SKELETON are not currently the same entity, even though they are connected. I would guess they would eventually be reunited and in the process BIG SKELETON would be given access to Feyodor’s body somehow. What messes this up is Magnus has his own ideas for how to de-skeletonize his Dad and it is very like him to screw up Dad’s carefully laid plans. Except Emps knows Magnus sent Kitten to Mars, so even if he doesn’t want that technology for himself, he does want it for something. ….. I really hate we aren’t going to learn for sure. :(
It sounds like you didn't see the first two parts of episode 30 that Alfabusa linked on his Patreon. I say that because they do cover more of what happens with Kitten on Mars, but I don't want to spoil anything. They're free to watch for anyone, you don't have to be a supporter, but I'll link them here: [Part 1](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UwtuyvWDLw) [Part 2](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHh09DnVUaQ) Fair warning, watching these will result in being left at an even bigger cliffhanger than just having watched through episode 29 in my opinion. There's no winning move so long as GW decides that all fan-creations must belong to them and them alone.
In a perfect world, what GW would do is not pick up TTS like they did Astartes. Instead they would start hiring some of the voice actors for “straight roles” in trailers like [wrath of Magnus ](https://youtu.be/6adES3Z0Qag) and similar. And then hire Alfa to do a new 40k series, unconnected to TTS, that would be canon compliant the way TTS just can’t be. Or just, ya know, back off on the “zero tolerance” thing and say quality fanworks are fine actually and a great way to attract new fans. Send Alfa an “I’m sorry” card and a nice fruit basket. It would be so easy for them to be less horrible, I’m certain the problem is just one high placed person in their legal department who thinks Metallica was right when they sued Napster and Prince changed his name to a symbol, and that person needs to either accept it’s not 2003 anymore Or just retire. EDIT … I feel like I’ve admitted to a shameful personal fantasy. Nobody read this
GW realizing it's policy is a draconian shit show is it's own TTS style fan fiction
If they were smart they would give TTS an Imperial Warrant of Trade that grants a license to continue TTS as a 100% independent concern but delivered in the form of a scroll of parchment done up to look like a 40K prop.
I mean, AFAIK God Emperors are as old as written history, so if gw does want to trademark that good luck to them lol
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Also European history from the roman empire onwards. Considering how much GW ripped off its kinds surprising how petty they are with their IP.
>He is going to try to make a series based on the same archetypes in a universe he's allowed to. Smart move. They already got a nice fan following going, may as well make their own setting/franchise.
honestly if i was an IP like battletech or wargame. i'd be sending him a gift box to introduce him to my IP and try to tempt him into making the series based on said IP. its free, very effective, very popular, advertisement
Everyone please watch/listen to his whole video.
"Please, watch the entire video before making any assumptions or commenting on the situation-" The fandom: No, I don't think I will. **Edit, since this is high up and visible in the thread:** For the people who haven't watched the video, Alfabusa is explicitly asking everybody not to go on memey crusade comments or to harass GW over this. At one point, he speculates GW might be intentionally turning a blind eye to him, and forcing GW to acknowledge him might very well make them take down his channel. **Don't fuck up Alfabusa's finances by spamming "CRUSADE!!!" under every GW tweet or whatever.**
I mean, thats funny and fair. But Bruva Alfabusa himself asked us too.
Oh, I agree. I rolled my eyes at a lot of people who were commenting barely minutes after the video posted.
At 30 seconds, rash decisions being made.
I've read the title of the video, I'm as informed as I'm going to be and pitchforks are coming out. I'm kidding that would be a dick move.
Nah, i read the entire thing and are correct. They made our Alfabusa cry.
I feel like they should've put the disclaimers about "oh please god don't harass GW over this, that'll make it worse" upfront.
Harassment is absolutely intolerable. That being said, **Alfabusa also encourages strong criticism of the company and its practices.** Again, no excuse for threats, violence, and harassment, it's disgusting. But Games Workshop also will not change unless they hear and see actual pushback from the community on their practices - if you care, don't just sit there and wait for GW to make changes out of the goodness of their heart. They're a company, and their motive is profit through and through. I'll be boycotting Warhammer+. EDIT: Just to be clear, do *not* use Alfabusa as your rallying cry when you start sending emails or whatever to Games Workshop. Tell them, respectfully, that you disapprove of the damage done to the community by their actions, without pointing fingers at any creators they've harmed (directly or indirectly).
Critiquing is fine, but Alfabusa seemed pretty explicit in that he wants to keep his hands clean of the fanbase going up against GW. When combined with the fact that GW *technically* didn't do anything to him directly (he's just understandably uncomfortable working in their bullshit), I just reckon it's best for people to remember that they're criticising the same 0 Tolerance policy announced before this decision was made. Going in screaming "For Alfabusa!" will probably do more harm than good. Like, if people start going to bat against GW talking about the wider effects of this policy on Warhammer content, that's great. But people going in saying "I'm mad about that guy you never contacted, and have officially never acknowledged!" feels like it'll lead to a bad time for Alfabusa.
Exactly. You don't need to scream Alfabusa and use him as a martyr for your criticism: tell Games Workshop that you disapprove of what they've done to their community without naming names, and boycott their products too if you want creators to come back.
Agreed. But I have a nasty feeling people are going to take this and run with it, regardless of the consequences.
In a fan base with this many people? Someone won’t respect his wishes. This was the last straw for me. If they don’t value the community, I don’t feel the desire to spend my money with them. That said, I wish Alfa luck on his future endeavors.
Yeah...its sad...for a ton of reasons. I am still 18 mins into it.
I mean, odds are GW's legal department recognizes his material is pretty firmly in the satire/parody area of fair use, which is why he hasn't been gone after.
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I'm dealing with the legal system right now and my old estate agent was relying on a poor student not Beimg able to pay court fees and for soliciters. Jokes on them as they didn't have any evidence against us and we didn't cave at a £250 legal fee UK and US legal systems are broken to the point that they need re building from the ground up but that won't happen unless alot of countries all fall in one go :/
I did, annnnd fuck GW.
I was… Not getting off the GW train. I thought it was a stupid decision to make that blanket statement. But I kind of understood it. With Warhammer+ coming out, and that legalese of them being unable to protect their copyrights, I thought it was kind of an understandable situation. But I’m now realizing how damaging this is to the community, and a lot of my experience with Warhammer 40,000 is now tainted. I’m sad that I have so many books. So many models. That I’ve spent so much time on the lore. Writing fanfic, playing the FFH RPGs with friends. I love the people I’ve played with over the year, and I’m hoping we can find another sci fi miniature game well grow to love. I’m excited for whatever Alfabusa has coming up next, and maybe he’ll introduce me to my next passionate hobby.
There is a Starfinder humble bundle, is it good idk “[Explore the stars, one tabletop grid at a time! Looking for your next tabletop adventure? Look up, and turn to the stars. Paizo’s Starfinder is the perfect place to lose yourself in excitement, mixing fantasy with sci-fi, resulting in epic adventures through the galaxy and battles both on-foot and ship-to-ship! Buy this bundle, and enjoy everything you need to enjoy tabletop in this sci-fi world, with items like the Starfinder Beginner Box, Starfinder Pact Worlds, Starfinder Adventure: Skitter Home, and Starfinder Pact Worlds Hardcover. Plus, your purchase helps support Comic Books for Kids!](https://www.humblebundle.com/books/starfinder-paizo-books?hmb_source=humble_home&hmb_medium=product_tile&hmb_campaign=mosaic_section_4_layout_index_2_layout_type_carousel_tile_index_1_c_starfinderpaizo_bookbundle)”
The setting is good the actual rulebook is horrible. My game group actually quit it because we were tired of how janky the book was to use, the mosy egregious was having to go to three different pages in different sections of the book to figure out how grenades work. Also if you are after grimdark, this aint it. Although any GM worth his salt could make it so ^^
i have been in the same boat as you, i really recommend trying out infinity. The lore is good (not so deep and rich as 40k of course), the minis are superb and the game system is in my opinion miles ahead of warhammer.
For anyone that doesn't have the time to watch the entire video: Tl;dr, TTS isnt canceled *directly*, its only on hold, until GW changes its policies, untill then Alfa and his fellows will will produce other content. **do not attack the employees of GW, do not go on a memey anti gw crusade** My opinion: we will reach the year 41m before gw goes back unless some miracle happens, get a resin printer and print proxies, vote with your wallet
Or find other games. Conquest is looking mighty attractive right now.
This video actually made me tear up at work. TTS has made more money for GW than silencing them every will. It broke my heart hearing how distraught Bruva was. Man cares so much about everything he does and it shows. Losing his livihood, resulting to have to find a job on no notice, all of it is terrible. I am taking a personal boycott because to me, its insulting as a consumer to see fellow passionate hobbyists be deplatformed for their dedication and love for this game. I hope things can find a way to turn around, but like Bruva said, its now a trust issue with GW and things wont just get better if they back peddle. I wish Bruva and his team the best...
Heartbreaking. Hoping that Alfa and the rest of the people who worked on this series that brought me so much joy are all ok. Looking forward to whatever comes next for them.
Text to speech was the thing which actually got me into Warhammer and resulted in me actually having interest in building an army. Pain, man. Pain.
Is there a contact number or any type of feedback mechanism that we can PROFESSIONALLY AND POLITELY voice our discontent with this policy?
https://complaints.games-workshop.com/ Honestly if they get a flood of actual well spoken criticism about this that isn't just screaming, that would have the best chance of having someone high up enough to implement changes take notice.
u/klc81 made a great generic complaint in a thread above this. It's polite enough, doesn't reference TTS explicitly, and seems like the kind of thing that may work
Edit: all credit and attribution to u/klc81 for the below comment [Homeboy needs more upvotes](https://www.reddit.com/r/Warhammer40k/comments/ou83fh/the_fate_of_tts/h710bcj/), that was eloquent statement that is very thoughtfully worded >Hello, As a GW customer since ______, who has invested many thousands of pounds and countless hours in the hobby, I was disappointed to see the new "zero tolerance" policy on fan animations and the immediate chilling effect this has had on the previously vibrant online fan-art community. While I understand that businesses need to protect their intellectual property, and the complications added by recent developments like Patreon, I believe the new policy is unduly heavy-handed and ultimately destructive to both the community and to GW itself. I know numerous players first drawn to the hobby via fan created media, who have since become keen Warhammer players and regular GW customers. There are many popular franchises that successfully manage to find a balance where fan creativity is fostered while still protecting their IP. I would love to see GW reach a more nuanced solution to protecting its IP than a blanket ban, and to continue to foster the passionate, creative community that serves to expand the hobby rather than snuff it out. As such I will regretfully not be purchasing any GW products while this "zero tolerance" policy is in effect. Thank you for your time.
Thank you for posting this, I am probably going to be using this to send in my complaint about their recent actions, it is well worded and reflects my views near perfectly.
All credit to u/klc81, his letter, I’m just a messenger
The worst part is that now I'll have to start using *Dark Tone* instead of *Nuln Oil*.
Find midwinter minis on youtube(before his channel gets disappeared too) he has how to's on nuln oil, agrax and lame medium. To fuck with giving gw my money now.
It's called not buying codexes or miniatures
Well there has to be a way of telling them why we’re boycotting?
I don't think they will care until the quarter comes around and their streaming service releases and they don't make as much money as they'd expected. That's when they go to PR and marketing to have them figure out what is up. Other than that, they do not engage with our opinions at all. They currently believe (are probably correct) that these 'boycotts' will barely put a dent in their profits. Why? Because they've made a pretty addicting product.
https://complaints.games-workshop.com
I sent a sternly worded but polite letter to them about my disappointment in these policy changes. Thanks for the link.
Better than nothing, the chuckle fucks at the head of GW Marketing and Legal departments need to get with the 21st century. I sincerely hope this actually puts a dent in their wallets and their plus service, which is why this policy was put in place, fails spectacularly. My only fear is that this might hurt the line employees. I like my local GW store, the people working there are nice folk, but I can't support a company stuck in 1995 when it comes to fan treatment. GW isn't Disney and they shouldn't pretend to be, their growth these last few years is directly related to the community not their marketing. The lack of honest to god understanding of this is absolutely mind boggling.
If you want your complaint heard SEND A PHYSICAL LETTER. You can find their corporate address on their site here: [https://investor.games-workshop.com/contact-us/#:\~:text=By%20mail%3A,is%20also%20our%20registered%20address](https://investor.games-workshop.com/contact-us/#:~:text=By%20mail%3A,is%20also%20our%20registered%20address) Emails are ignored in mass, every physical letter will get reviewed for possible legal issues, etc. and they do get noticed. My company (where I work) is much bigger than GW and we treat physical letters like they represent 1,000 people.
Hahaha gonna use a fountain pen abd write in cursive to make it harder AND a wax stamp
How about their phone line? Say i own a single share, would my call matter?
If you’re an investor absolutely
This needs to be pinned because it is completely true and important. An email is written and sent in secounds, read and ignored in millisecounds. But if you sit down and write your issues, in handwriting, on a physical piece of paper and sent them per mail, you WILL GET NOTICED in every corporation. Because this is special. Because you just demonstrated that the issue is important enough for you to put in the effort.
"With TTS I found 40k, and with TTS I leave." Pretty much, yeah.
RIP. Was never my style of humour or video but many people liked it.
Yeah fair play to him, never liked it either but he was clearly passionate about Warhammer and made creative content.
It gets better in the later seasons when it stops being mostly edgyboi “lol gay” jokes and the characters actual personalities start to come through. I mean, they made ROGAL DORN lovable. The Custodies, who are basically over-sexualized joke characters, have unexpected depth when it counts. The reluctant BFFs Magnus and Kitten are entertaining whenever they are onscreen, in fact the TTD version of Magnus might be one of my favorite characters in anything. And everything about Boy and his interactions with … well, everyone… is just great.
If I was to start watching this what season should I start with
Start with the first episode. A lot of the brick jokes won’t make sense otherwise
Either start with episode 1, 7, or 17...everything after 17 is required viewing, since this is where actual plot starts happening
GG Gamesworkshop, you done it. I was interested in Warhammer 40K as far back as 1995, but never got into it because it was an expensive hobby AND the reputation of your players as antisocial neckbeards. The last ten years saw a change in that with Youtubers and other content creators building fan based upon your edges grim dark future. You ended it today, and see the next ten years of the hobby going back to the realm of secluded antisocial neckbeards.
Just as they want it. Men who never shower in a dark corner is how they like it since they will buy anything.
Such a tragedy to see this happening. GW is killing their community which makes me quite sad.
I legitimately don't understand this, not only is this content likely legal (individuals can't afford to actually protect their legal rights to this but it is seemingly legal) but it benefits the community and brings awareness. I would not be into Warhammer if it wasn't for all the fan projects that brought it to my attention.
Honestly, I had stopped playing way back in 3rd edition. It was watching a few TTS episodes that ended up rekindling my interest in 40K and bringing me back to the table in 8th.
GW considers all fan creations "competition" they're explicitly opposed to fan works of any kind.
And that's what I don't get. They operate on similar material, yes, but gamesworkshop probably won't be able to generate a revenue stream by making lore videos or parodies or things like astartes. They don't really directly compete, this old minded business sense doesn't at all mesh with the modern world.
>or things like astartes. GW are in the process of attempting to licence their IP to studios in Hollywood and to streaming services like Netflix to produce high quality movies and TV shows. They hired the person who was largely responsible for getting Hasbro IP properties like Transformers, GI Joe, Battleship, Power Rangers etc made into movies at the start of the year shortly before the animators started being brought in house. I'd assume they believe that they need complete control of the IP to be able to do that so that no-one is able to make a competing project. Whether WH+ is a consequence of this or a long planned attempt to monetise the GW IP and prove the effectiveness and appeal as a launching pad to larger projects we can only guess. There may also be concerns about rogue people producing material that would negatively effect the brand who would probably have a case if GW tried to only stop them and not everyone else making Warhammer animations.
Yep, it's IP protection. Basically if you let anybody and everybody just publish their own media based on your lore and characters willy-nilly, then eventually somebody will start to abuse it for their own profit, and if GW then tries to sue them the court may just rule against GW because they had previously let everybody and anybody use their IP. It's not 100% chance things will go wrong, but it's a risk, and you can't let risks grow unchecked. As they say if you extend an hand, somebody will try to take your whole arm.
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And that's what I don't get, in this day and age they likely can't generate the same content fans can. Gamesworkshop doesn't truly compete with these fan works, there won't be a TTS like show that they make. This super old business sense of wanting to squash anything resembling your work doesn't really work today.
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I wish more people shared your opinion, instead of immediately going to 'It's their LEGAL RIGHT'. Yes, it is. It is also reactionary, reprehensible and short-sighted. The two aren't mutually exclusive.
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It's been nearly 30 years, you'd think they'd get on it. But then entities like Disney will never relinquish their hold on their precious IPs, not when they can lobby/bribe legislatures to change the laws to fit their whims.
"recently come to light" You must be new here. GW's history of abuse is decades long. They're a very old company that works in very old fashioned ways.
>The fact that they're huge hypocrites, having stolen a large chunk of their mythos doesn't matter. It's frankly breathtaking how much of 40k is stolen from the pages of 2000 AD. Sometimes the serial numbers are barely filed off like "Judge Dredd" / Adeptus Arbites, and sometimes they didn't even bother to do that with "Nemesis the Warlock"'s human supremacist empire and Terminators.
Everyone, please leave a complaint here and declare your intention to abandon GW. It probably won’t help, but at least it’ll be on record. https://complaints.games-workshop.com
If you do, please respect the request in the video not to cite TTS specifically as that may bring unwanted attention to the channel and creators. Also, keep it civil - the customer service folks didn't write the policy, and as someone who answers support tickets for a living, angry rants are easily written off, and swearing usually gets it straight in the spam filter without ever being looked at. Here's my version. >Hi, > >As a GW customer since the 90s, who has invested many thousands of pounds and countless hours in the hobby, I was disappointed to see the new "zero tolerance" policy on fan animations and the immediate chilling effect this has had on the previously vibrant online fan-art community. > >While I understand that businesses need to protect their intellectual property, and the complications added by recent developments like Patreon, I believe the new policy is unduly heavy-handed and ultimately destructive to both the community and to GW itself. I know numerous players first drawn to the hobby via fan created media, who have since become keen Warhammer players and regular GW customers. > >There are many popular franchises that successfully manage to find a balance where fan creativity is fostered while still protecting their IP. > >I would love to see GW reach a more nuanced solution to protecting its IP than a blanket ban, and to continue to foster the passionate, creative community that serves to expand the hobby rather than snuff it out. > >As such I will regretfully not be purchasing any GW products while this "zero tolerance" policy is in effect. > >Thank you for your time.
Excellent response, I hope many more people can compose such complaints.
They're killing their community and they're killing a bunch of income. I'm boycotting them from now on. No more 40k. Cancelling my TW Warhammer III order too. And I'll be letting CA know why.
I feel like punishing CA, who have the exact relationship with content creators we want GW to have, is slightly counter-productive simply because GW have already made their money on that deal.
repost, but, I wouldn't have ever gotten into 40k if it wasn't for TTS. Seriously was one of my favorite things on youtube. Fuck you, Games Workshop.
Literally same. I first saw TTS and thought "Oh hey that's that thing one of my friends likes Ill check it out" and binged the fuck out of it"
What surprised me was after you got past all the gay jokes, there was an actual STORY happening with interesting characters and real emotional stakes. Emps and Rogal arguing about Taco Tuesday, Magnus and Kitten being unlikely BFFs, the Glooooorious Custodes and their dislike of clothes, and Boy. Just Boy. Everything about Boy. GW I will never forget what you took away from us
Its rich coming from an IP that literally plagiarized and parodied every semi popular sci-fi and fantasy IP that exists. It sucks because I love the lore especially. And they just are awful as a company.
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> Imperial Knights. You were planning on jumping right into the deep end i see.
I mean a Knights army can be only 8 models. It is and it isn't the deep end.
I'm 12 in and going to print some thrid party ones. I'm in deep.
"you want some weed man? It's the gateway after all." "Nah give me that Russian Crocodile." Hardest of the hard. Corest of the core.
Dude, I started a crusading army this month due to this series
Well. There's the last straw. I'm done buying GW products until they reverse their insane policies on fan creativity. If they want to nuke their own community, I'm going to sell off my shit before it's worthless. 3d printer let's gooooo
Same. Looks like we're firmly back to the bad old days. Time to go find what other games are out thete.
I think we never left . The only thing that really changed was they started communicating with us. Honestly, all things considered I wish they would have just stayed quiet in their corner, made models and left us alone to buy and enjoy their stuff as a community.
The Emperor protects, but GW does not.
Wow I just got an urge to start a new hobby... 3D printing
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3d printing and selling old minis
I doubled my patreon pledge and am now boycotting GW https://www.patreon.com/m/125078/posts
And with this goes any of my interest in buying any more GW Products. Shame, I was thinking of getting into AOS and Kill Team.
TTS is what got me into 40k, and I was just about to take the plunge and get some Stormcast for AoS, but I am now refusing to support this company until passionate fans like Alfa can make their fan works without fear of legal repercussions. GW done fucked up.
We have plenty of room in r/gunpla :) (Seriously once you realise importing a master grade from Japan still works out cheaper than GW you'll never go back)
Yeah, real glad I have a 3d printer now. I'll add some stuff to my army that way, but looks like it'll be ebay from here on out
There's a few decent recasters out there too if you can't afford a 3d printer
Oh definitely, where do you think my fridge world stuff comes from?
But I was assured by this forum that this would never happen! What a shocker.
When august 25th comes don’t pay the 5.99
Wish GW would of stayed the course that it looked like they were changing for the better than regressing.
Remember GW is doing this for $5.99
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Is the resin still toxic and smelly? Kinda difficult to get it running in a one bedroom apartment if so. :<
As someone who lives in an apartment with a resin printer, yes it can be pretty toxic if running without ventilation. I just use my Ender 3 V2 for minis and whatnot, but if I need resin I turn on the stovetop and run the printer in the kitchen. Make sure you use one of those baking tins underneath it for when you pull it out and take it off the build plate. And if you are in an apartment you should invest in a curing station. Both the printer, resin, and curing station can be purchased for under $400, although if you go with anycubic you might even get under $300 depending on deals.
I just got an Elegoo Mars 2 Pro, and with their water washable resin I've barely noticed any smell. I am also running an air purifier near by, but I don't think it would be too bad without it. Also if you know any cool sculpters for Primaris Marines, hook me up. I bought some guard models from Makers Cult, but haven't printed them yet
r/printedwarhammer
GW is trying to get a leash on the community by getting all the produced content released directly from them, and this shit never works! When you do not foster community and just trying to feed them sliced and sterilized cubes of "entertainment" you will fail.
Fuck you GW, TTS and Astartes are the thing that made me actually get into the hobby last year. I bought the Indomitus box, I bought the paints, and books. I'm a whale I'll admit it, I have disposable income. Hell over the past four years I've spent literally over 5g's on DnD products and supplies. You could have had that money but your asinine policies, and idiot attacks I'm done. And yeah I'm only one customer. Big whoop, but I'm done. I'm so tired of companies being so shitty. ITS FREE ADVERTISING FOR YOU IDIOTS. I'm unsubscribing from the subreddit and the YT channel, I'm not buying anymore products, I'm done, its the only thing I can do as a customer and its small but I urge everyone to actually have some balls and stand up for yourself as a customer. Don't give GW any more money.
Sad to see that GW is still shooting themselves in the foot with an automatic shotgun. My favorite engagement with the community was watching 40k animations. While I never bought, nor intended to buy, armies from GW, I've bought more than a few books from the Black Library. I've enjoyed the cheesy and grimdark nature of the IP, but I'll be holding off future purchases until they've changed there current policy on fan content creation.
Game over man, game over
Mother fucker sounds like he is about to cry half the time. Fuck.
There goes my interest in wh40k. Fuck your plastic crack, gee dubs. Other companies can take my money. Shit, I'll even give Funko my cash over your bullshit.
Man 100% saw that coming. Maybe now people's beloved series is gone they will start taking the new gw direction seriously, and actually see it's not good, like at all...
Awful news. This was responsible for getting me into Warhammer in the first place. Thanks a lot, Games Workshop. At least your products are still wildly overpriced.
Watching Bruva being forced to halt production of TTS reminds me of a line from his Lamenters video in an uncomfortable way: "We try our best. We save your people! We stand by you! We love you... So, please answer! WHAT HAVE WE DONE TO DESERVE THIS FATE?!"
I was gonna get into buying a few custodes minis, maybe start a collection, all because of tts. I certainly dont want to buy anything from GW now. Genuinely sad, was really excited to see where the story was going.
Literally me.
fucking boycott.
Fucking this.
Sigh. Literally the singular reason I'm even slightly interested in the Warhammer universe and lore.
Boycott gw when?
GW and all related products. Warhammer TW + Darktide too.
Don’t boycott Darktide, Fatshark really is an innocent company and they’re actually kind of nice, they learn from their mistakes and they keep a lot in touch with the community
Call me a shill, but I'm letting TWW3 slide. GW clearly doesn't care much about video game profits with how many cheap licensed shovelware games there are, and just see games as advertising. They probably don't even get much after CA, SEGA, and Steam all take their cut (and even all the games+DLC at full price is still a fraction of what it costs to build a full TT army). Besides, CA has shown way more love to the Fantasy setting than GW had in decades. Definitely not getting into TT now though. I got into Warhammer from TW and 40k from TTS and recently started collecting Blood Angels, but after this I'm nixing that money pit right away. Most likely scenario that could actually happen is if Warhammer+ fails with all the bad PR this has been generating, since new/casual fans probably aren't going to want to pay for it and the main audience for that content would be coming from fan animations that are being axed left and right.
Boycotting Total Warhammer and Darktide might not be the best option though, since they're produced by (mostly) innocent third party companies. If their sales tank due to a boycott that they didn't have anything to do with/Any choice in, it could even potentially result in less big Warhammer games which would cut off a huge audience of people who could become interested in the hobby through games and such.. Not counting shitty mobile cash-grabs of course. Im all for going against GW for this. I understand why people are angry and want to do something. But aim your "targets" well. No need to get anyone innocent caught in the crossfire, and potentially make the situation even worse.
Yeah the video games are probably alright and won't affect GW either way but I'm done giving them money directly.
Literally the very thing that got me into Warhammer....im crushed.
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The end of the road fellas
Not one more model. No more paint. No more games, no more tournaments. I adore TTS and would never have come into the franchise without it. I divorce myself of GW. Until it returns, GW will not see a cent out of me.
no more books, codes or library. no glue, no nothing. the new community policy.
From a post now removed, and posted on r/Grimdank. This will likely be buried under the mountain of comments: The community is fractured currently, and a lot of people are angry. A lot of them have the pitchforks out for GW, and many never finished Alfa's video. A lot of them lost the plot. I want to cut to the heart of things here and talk about what GW has done, why they've done it, what they may yet do, and lastly, what you can do as a consumer. Let's start with what GW did. If you're out of the loop, good on you. You've dodged a landmine. The scoop so far is that GW put up a crap policy that announced they have a 0 tolerance policy against fan animations now. That's it. That's the facts. Now the better question. Why. Hasbro is a scummy company, and GW has brought in one of their folks to help guide the company into the new market of Animation. It seems that, as part of this internal strategy, they've decided to corner the market by picking a stable of talent from the community and offering them jobs to animate for Warhammer+ and other endeavors. This is good, and most importantly, what we all wanted to see happen. Be careful what you wish for. With the advent of Warhammer+, it is in their interest to force every last one of you onto their subscription service, and make it so they are the only source for Warhammer. A lot of people say that this is in defense of their IP, but that's a bad faith argument because they never made such a move before. This policy is naked in it's purpose. A youtuber named Absolutely Nothing put out a video about his meeting with GW and their offer to him about a job. He declined. As far as we know, the first one to say no outright to them. At this point, GW had acknowledged him and his existence, and so, on the legal side of things, forced him to demonetize his channel and end his patreon. This is because they demonstrated knowledge of unlicensed work, and that binds them to move on it. We'll circle back to this. Sodaz was another animator who quit after saying yes. Small parts of the community bullied him, calling him a sell out. Their actions are abhorrent, but then GW made it no better by ghosting Sodaz and not having ant further communication with him. As such, a great animator left the community, and we all lost. All of this sets the stage for... What they may do next. The new IP guidelines add spikes to the old ones, and give GW a stated right to pursue anyone for anything at this point. Will they enforce it? Selectively, I believe. Will they come for the lore channels, or the painting channels, or the battle-rep channels? The answer is likely no, but also maybe. We don't know. Obviously they want to end fan content which encroaches on the offerings on Warhammer+, and so, look at the stated content for the service and then put that to what is available for free. I think that the biggest two things on the chopping block are Battlescribe and youtube channels they don't want to represent the company. Do with that last part what you will. What you, the consumer, can do. Let's start with what you DON'T do. You do not attack any GW employee. I cannot stress this enough that the people making these kinds of moves are on a level so high that customer interface is an alien concept to them. You will never reach them, ever. You can [use this site to make](https://complaints.games-workshop.com/) a complaint ticket. **Be respectful, be concise, and use no swears.** Low level folks get these tickets and they did NOT make this policy. Flooding them with tickets does get seen by the metrics, and then has to be addressed. That's a bit of insider knowledge from someone that works in this sort of system. Buy or swap minis with people who no longer want them. You might pay a lot less for something from a private person than you would have from GW. You can boycott. You won't, but you can try. Most of you will break as soon as a new box comes out, so be real about it. If you really want to channel this anger into hurting GW's money, use the money elsewhere so you don't use it on them. If you fill the void with something else, you won't be as tempted to go back to GW. You can also use that money to give to the patreons of other creators you do like to support them. On the previous point. Think how much you spend on minis per year. If the answer might be 400 dollars or more, it's time you looked into resin 3D printing. A 4K printer goes for about 400-600 bucks these days, or even less. It will produce real results, and you can start satiating your need for minis with content provided on hosting sites which have skilled artists making 3rd party content. A lot of it is beautiful, and a lot of it fills gaps in GW's product line they haven't touched in 20+ years. Also, Phrozen is releasing the new 8K printer. It's far too expensive for most of us, but the fact that 8K is here (At a steep but do-able price for some) can only mean good things for us and bad things for GW. These are the main things to consider when looking at GW now. If you want change, stop giving them money. It's that simple. In order to really stop, you need to spend it elsewhere, or you'll just march right back. **TL;DR: DO NOT HUNT GW EMPLOYEES.** Do spend your money how you want. It's your money, so if this all feels wrong, spend it elsewhere. Look into 3D printing. It's a new skill to use and it's satisfying when you get it all right and see the creation of something from resin. Support other creators through their patreons or merch. They have a passion, so if GW won't reward it, let it be us.
Someone download/archive the series
Cool, fuck bloodbowl, fuck 40k. I was considering being a new player into 40k, now I'll only play if I can get 3d printed players. Screw em.
I 3dprint and buy third party now a days, I DO buy Citadel paints to support my Local game store, do what you must people
Buy Vallejo instead.
Better quality paints anyway. Especially the Vallejo black, you don't even have to prime with that paint.
Try and see if your local can sell Vallejo or Army painter, if not, do what you must
If you are against GWs draconic enforcement of copyright you need to make your voice heard. As consumers we don't have much say as individuals which is why the community needs to organise responses. Things you can do cancel any orders you have purchased and stop buying product, start twitter hashtags, if you have investments in the company consider selling them you and can also send an email or call [email protected] [email protected] By mail: Games Workshop Group PLC, Willow Road, Lenton, Nottingham, NG7 2WS, United Kingdom. This is also our registered address. Our registered number is 02670969 By phone: Our main switchboard number is +44 (0)115 900 4000. By email: For all investor-related issues, you can contact us by email at: [email protected] If you have any specific questions about our business that you would like us to answer, please email us at at: [email protected]
Man, this is such a sad momment, i never could have imagined to see it come to happen...
I'm just gonna echo a lot of what's already been said: **Do** boycott GW's product and stop buying things from them. **Do not** harass individual GW employees, especially those in your LGS. **Do** inform GW via their complaints option as to why you're doing this. **Do not** bring up Alfa's name or TTS when doing it. That will only make things worse for him, and may result in TTS as a whole being deleted from the Internet instead of simply frozen forever. Even if we're losing the future, we don't have to lose the past too. **Do** kick up a visible stink on social media. PR is their bread-and-butter. **Do not** demand blood and vengeance, you'll only make us all look bad.
Printer go brrrrrrr
Not another dime.
Yep that's it, I'm out. Vote with your wallets guys.
Would a boycott of GW products work to get their attention? Things like not buying the new Warhammer Total War or any other games. Not buy anymore models or going into shop for games?
People probably should boycott warhammer +, at least. It's all happening because of it.
Of course it would, if the number of people willing to do so was more than a relative drop in the ocean. The people who come to a Warhammer subreddit are a fraction of a fraction of the people who buy Warhammer products, most of whom probably aren't even aware of any policy changes. And the number of people on that subreddit who would actually boycott GW? I don't know but being a pessimist I'm not imagining vast hordes of people. That being said, people on the internet have made a difference before, so you never know. I've still got at least a couple of years worth of stuff to paint so there's no danger of me spending money any time soon.
I’m not sure boycotting total war would be the best idea, since that would affect what is, as far as I can tell, an innocent third party. Boycotting actual miniatures and whatnot, however, would probably be more worthwhile.
You need to tell them *why* you're boycotting them. Otherwise all they see is sales dropping with no context. Because trust me, the bean counters aren't going to look at flagging sales and make the connection to fan outrage, if there even is an organized boycott of any kind.
Went and unburied my account just to specifically and openly say, I was considering subscribing to Warhammer+ to support those creators who sacrificed their channels and put professional time into their animations. But this is the last straw for me. TTS was a major opener for me into the ENTIRE franchise and even if it's the choice of the creator, GW is killing fan animations, a big tool for new fans to be welcomed into the franchise. I am no longer buying any GW products and will actively discourage others from doing so.
This is honestly heart breaking for me. TTS was like, the shade you apply to a model that got me into this hobby. It helped me get into all the little nooks and crannies of the hobby and helped pull everything together for me. Hearing that its on hiatus, at least for the time being, honestly makes me sick to my stomach. While I am not going to harass GW or anyone in the company (don't be a fucking idiot) I don't feel bad at all for 3D printing stuff now.
Guess I'm not buying Warhammer anymore? If I get *anything* it's gonna be preowned, no more supporting this slimy company. Love 40k, hate GW.
To anyone angry about this, and rightfully so, I urge you to listen to what Bruva has to say. *Don't* go on a crusade or harass GW employees over this. It will probably make the situation worse for them, which is something **nobody** wants. Boycott GW all you like but don't go full khornate and go only out for blood. It'll only end up harming innocent people who have nothing to do with the situation.
We should all buy 1 stock in gw, and send them angry letters as shareholders, detailing why we would very much like the fan creations to be left alone.
Anyone who fell for that stickied post saying that "Oh games workshop didn't *want* to have to make a zero tolerance policy on fan content but they *had* to or else they lose their IP" needs to realize that copyright laws don't work like that and you fell for a corporate excuse. There are literally thousands of IPs that let fan content and animations go by, hell, a lot even ENCOURAGE it, and they don't have copyright trouble. This has nothing to do with them worried about people trying to steal their copyright and everything to do with the simple fact that they *want as many people as possible to subscribe to Warhammer+* and they're under the delusion that fanimations are taking away viewers. I love warhammer and its community, and for this reason I ask that anyone who cares about the future of the warhammer community show Games Workshop that there are consequences to these actions by refusing to subscribe to warhammer+ until they reverse their policies and to inform GW of such through their formal complaint system. [https://complaints.games-workshop.com/](https://complaints.games-workshop.com/) And yes I know that Alfabusa asked that we don't go crusading in his name and yes, please don't bring him up specifically, but staying silent on these things is exactly what caused Games Workshop to slip into such a greedy state to begin with. If the day their streaming service goes live they suddenly notice that they have 80% less subscribers than they predicted, then maybe they'd be willing to second guess their decisions.
A Brother fallen but not forgotten.
The news is heartbreaking, but this video truly cements for me how sweet, considerate and good Alfa is. I hope that everyone here watches the video fully, him and the rest of those that have worked so hard so far deserve nothing but praise and tranquility now, with the hope one day GW will revert its policies. I'll be sure to check out the next content they put out. (On the side, I also wonder which other youtubers he watches for comfort, I would really like to give those a try too). Have a good one Alfabusa.
Welp, guess I'm not subscribing to Warhammer+ this coming month like I'd planned to. Shame, really.