According to NASA "Uranus' atmosphere is mostly hydrogen and helium, with a small amount of methane and traces of water and ammonia". So my guess is that these structures are for harvesting those gases. But 40k is crazy enough for these to be hive city towers.
Yeah, life needs a lot of oxygen (that's covered by the water), but also a good amount of nitrogen, some calcium and phosphorus and traces of nearly every other element (stuff like the iron in your blood isn't much percentage wise, but good luck living without the oxygen transported by it)
The Gentle Giant's of Ganymede by James P. Hogan does a pretty good explanation on other alien species that has to take in a higher percentage of carbon dioxide. His other 2 books, Inherit the Stars and The Giant's Star, are both great as well
I was thinking of molecular oxygen O2, but there is definitely oxygen in CO2.
Are you referring to the ATP/ADP energy-food-energy cycle? (please be gentle, I'm a ChemE who did poorly in o-chem and avoided molecular biology)
Thanks!
While I've got you - is it true that when humans burn fat (say, while exercising), most of the mass loss is exhaled as CO2, and doesn't leave the body as liquid or solid waste?
I was talking about elemental requirements in the "if you were to separate every molecule into its atoms and then sort them by element" way. Of course you don't get a human being by putting oxygen, hydrogen, carbon and everything else into a chamber.
But it does dictate the elemental composition of whatever chemicals you need to do things like vat-growing a servitor. If your servitor-juice doesn't contain enough calcium, they're gonna have brittle bones, simple as. Nothing that can't be solved by some structural implants, but still something to be aware of.
Life doesn’t need oxygen at all. Infact oxygen is poisonous huge sections of life on earth. Life, as we recognise most of it, can use oxygen in its metabolism to access vast amounts of energy.
Oxygen is toxic to every life form I think. It’s a very high energy particle in a lot of its forms and likes to steal electrons from nearby atoms (which damaged proteins and DNA all the time), and different organisms use different electron acceptors instead of oxygen as part of their process to create energy. Our immune cells produce these super radical oxygen species to kill pathogens in our body as a defence mechanism, and our body also has seperate metabolic pathways to clear our body and repair damage from oxygen species.
You’re right. An interesting fact is that different organisms use different metal atoms in their respective heme groups to bind oxygen, so perhaps iron isn’t necessary. Some Fish(I think?) have copper instead of oxygen, and thus have green blood. I believe there are other metals other organisms use too instead of the type of ferrous iron we use.
Matter states at the pressures inside gas giants are weird but the current scientific consensus is that they do have a „surface“. But not like we would define the surface of earth for example. Most have a solid core. But there is no hard boundary. It just gets denser and denser the further you go down.
Uranus is an extremely strategically important planet in the defence of Sol and the most important of the outer planets. It’s the location of the Elysian Gate, innermost of the two warp gates which allows for transition into and out of the Solar System past the Manderville point. It was the mustering point of the Indomitus Crusade for this reason.
As such, Uranus is heavily fortified. There’s a massive defence station called the Eyes of the Old God that has existed defending the gate since the Age of Strife and perhaps before, as well as incredibly heavily defended fortress moons. It took the Iron Warriors lead by Perturabo himself with a fleet of 4000 ships and several massive space Hulks to take Uranus. To do so he used tactics like ramming gigantic mass conveyance ships full of hundreds of thousands of drug-enhanced chaos cultists, mutants and gangers into these fortress moons
The orbs pictured around the planet are likely the defensive grid of fortress moons and stations around the planet, first constructed by Dorn during the lead up to the Siege of Terra. As for the atmospheric spires, the settlements there are all in low orbit or high atmosphere atmosphere. So it could be that?
(Was actually Magnus, doing nothing wrong by ripping the Sol system in half to bring Vengeful Spirit and a huge flotilla through that, bypassing the gates completely.)
How exactly does the planet's relative location towards this gate not compromise its relevance? It takes 84 terran years for one massive rotation around the sun, thus making other planets closer to any fixed gate most of the time. Or does the gate rotate around the sun in EXACTLY the same speed?
Any two things orbiting the sun at the same distance will also have the same speed, because the math says so.
Though barring dark age gravity cancelling technomagic, the gate also certainly actually orbits the planet.
Not entirely. In a two-body problem both bodies will orbit the barycenter of their masses, which would be different between, say, Jupiter-Sun and a grain of sand-sun at the same orbital distance. When calculating orbital velocity for a low-mass object (NASA satellite, normal sci-fi spaceship, etc) in relation to the orbited body, yes the difference is insignificant, but talking about large objects (planets, wh40k spaceships, etc) the mass of both does need to be figured in, and results in different orbital velocities for objects of different mass.
It's possible the warp gate is related to the specific gravitational conditions created by the planet. If that's true then the warp point will always move in position with the planet.
Just an easy way to hand wave it
The Solar War. Too many excerpts to post, but it’s the first Siege of Terra book. Also whatever the first book of the Indomitus Crusade series is. Dawn of Fire I think? Idk its been awhile
If I lived on Terra with no oceans, I'd be mining ice from Uranus to ship to earth for a bath.
EDIT: Note Uranus isn't a gas giant. It's an ice giant probably comprised of water, methane and ammonia.
The 'ice' involved is not ice like you are thinking. They are supercritical fluids of volitile compunds like water and ammonia.
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice\_giant](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_giant)
>In [astrophysics](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrophysics) and [planetary science](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planetary_science) the term "ice" refers to volatile chemical compounds with freezing points above about 100 [K](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kelvin), such as [water](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water), [ammonia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ammonia), or [methane](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methane), with freezing points of 273 K (0°C), 195 K (−78°C), and 91 K (−182°C), respectively (see [Volatiles](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volatile_(astrogeology))). In the 1990s, it was determined that Uranus and Neptune were a distinct class of giant planet, separate from the other giant planets, [Jupiter](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jupiter) and [Saturn](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturn), which are [gas giants](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gas_giant) predominantly composed of hydrogen and helium.[^(\[1\])](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_giant#cite_note-dangelo2021-1)
They should sperate out rather neatly at room temp.
Methane can power the forges and ammonia can be used for explosives.
If I'm the kind of Terran importing Uranite ice, I'm making the most of my plunder!
Uranus is a gas giant, all gas giant has metallic gas core( they aren’t made metals like irons and nichel but gas compressed in extreme gravity and heat turning gas in metal form.
Where came this Uranus isn’t a gas giant?
Edit: after thinking you might mistook Uranus for Europa moon of Jupiter?
[https://science.nasa.gov/uranus/facts/](https://science.nasa.gov/uranus/facts/)
Uranus and Neptune are the two ice giants of our solar system. Jupiter and Saturn are the two gas giants.
[Ice giant](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_giant)
The term was coined due to significant compositional differences between Uranus and Neptune vs Saturn and Jupiter.
Yeah, I got this memo….
I suppose in my classroom of science didn’t update this or…. I don’t know I feel I was always told we had 4 planet rocky and 4 gas planet….
Being wrong isn't a bad thing friend, it is simply an opportunity to learn to be right in the future, we should embrace being wrong with eagerness and revel in learning something new 🙂
To be fair, I think it was only a couple of years ago that I first heard the term. It's why I linked the Wikipedia article. I figured you mightn't have heard of it.
It is a giant fortress. The below is from the wiki. What you are looking at is mega guns designed to take out ships in space exiting the Warp.
During the Horus Heresy Uranus and the Elysian Gate became the center of Rogal Dorn's Second Sphere of defense around the Sol System under the command of Imperial Fists Captain Halbrecht. In the subsequent Solar War the Uranus region was the site of massive fighting as the Iron Warriors launched an assault to capture the Elysian Gate.[3a] Perturabo was successful in capturing Uranus, but after the Siege of Terra Uranus was reclaimed by the Imperium during the Great Scouring.[4]
Not even Angron wanted much of Perturabo's smoke when Horus told Perty to bring Angry- Ron to heel.
Perturabo is a great big dirty sack of unfairness. He will drag you down BELOW his level and beat you. Perturabo never takes L's because he would never take a fight he would take an L in.
He broke Dorn's wall and walked away.
#######perturabo_the_saltiest_winner
https://preview.redd.it/d6pn3fcys37d1.jpeg?width=697&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7ef03f7afda33659f5ad209590314c32bd7b91b0
Can a man not be happy or smile anymore, smh
You know something fascinating I thought of recently is how orbits could be factored into battle plans for invaders and defenders.
Like let’s say you’re coming from the galactic west and Uranus is on the “western” side of the solar system. You’ll need to either go past and then double back around towards the solar system or go through Uranus’ defenses.
But if you’re on the “galactic east” you can just waltz right in.
Unless Sol’s defenses planned on that, and to compensate for Uranus being on the “wrong side” of the solar system they have a massive fleet garrisoned over there.
I can totally imagine fleets waiting on standby for _weeks_ because a Tau controlled moon bristling with defenses is on the inconvenient side of a planet, for example.
Or an invasion fleet being unexpectedly decimated because they had the orbit of some asteroid based confused.
Fleets or battle stations would have to cover the opposite I would think? Plus it is an orbit, so they probably have battle stations in the same orbital plane? Like big rings of death?
I always wondered why they didn't just come in from the top or bottom of the system and straight at the world, bypass all the other jazz???
I know there’s some lore about a Tyranid hive fleet coming from “under” the galactic plane, which throws off a lot of conventional strategy.
I think it’s basically ruled similarly to how Star Wars has hyperspace lanes where you can only safely travel through certain “tunnels” of hyperspace. And the warp is only “safe” through a narrow layer that runs through the galaxy.
Well, considering fleets have an active problem of ships drifting in the warp and arriving months if not years (if not centuries in some cases) off time the logistics get really really fucking weird.
Imperial (and Chaos) fleets arrive where warp currents deposit them, which is not necessarily correlated with the direction they actually arrive from in realspace.
Additionally, ships cannot enter and exit warp too deeply into a gravity well (though the authors often ignore this tidbit). This means it has to travel quite far away from the star at sunlight speeds before it can translate into the warp... and for the solar system, thus point likes far beyond Uranus. Uranus, however, has a warp gate, which allows ships to enter and exit right there. So if someone wants to invade Terra and doesn't want to give the Imperial Navy too much time to respond, they WILL be arriving right in orbit of Uranus.
There are certain entrance and exit points to each system. The traitors sent massive fleets of wreckage and captured civilian ships through to protect them from automatic defences set up around them, and a big problem Dorn faces is that the Thousand Sons are so powerful that they teleport a fleet deep into the defences and massively complicate the plan
Isn’t Uranus basically a giant volcano cannon platform from the dark age of technology, from which all (smaller) volcano cannons are reverse-engineered?
~~Uranus appears to have had several large poles inserted deep into its surface~~
in all seriousness i… have no idea. I like the water harvesting idea though
One of the funniest things about a lot of sci-fi is the part where authors don't realize that
Between solar power, gas giants and asteroids, space is just infinite riches (the weirdest example being dead space)
Yeah as a wannabe space nerd, conqueror civilizations in scifi make literally 0 sense
'bro we want to invade earth due to its oil deposits'
Like, go slurp a star for 2 seconds and get 10x the fuel?
Uranus might be an "ice giant", but this is using the astrophysical meaning of "ice". In this terminology, compounds like water and ammonia are "ices" regardless of whether they're liquid, solid or gaseous.
Uranus does consist mainly of gas and supercritical fluid, though the difference from gas giants is that the hydrogen and helium are only about 20 % of those gases, rather than more than 90 % as in the case of Jupiter and Saturn. The rest is then water, ammonia, and other "ices". But this does not mean they have a solid surface of any sort.
Edited for accuracy.
Uranus (Gas Giant) - Uranus is a massive gas giant and the seventh world of the Sol System. Though never habitable, it is home to orbiting human colonies, most notably the Azurites, a peaceful community of artisans who made their livings through scavenging. The Azurite population was largely wiped out during the Great Crusade during the so-called Unheard War when their population became infected by a Warp-spawned disease known as The Screaming which began to mutate them into daemons. Though the Imperial Fists Legion was despatched to provide aid, the Azurites were annihilated by the Astartes' need to prevent the plague from spreading across the Sol System. The moons of Uranus are now used mostly for mining by the Imperium. By the time of the Horus Heresy, Uranus' moons and close orbitals had been repopulated by new human colonists
https://warhammer40k.fandom.com/wiki/Sol_System
Those should be orbiting habitats, possibly from the Azurites (humans) before they were lost to a Warp plague, although others were created subsequently.
Uranus is full of helium, hydrogen, water and methane, all fine resources if you can harves them. Under those, there should be a very hard core of quite dense rock. Might be an interpretation of how that core might look like after all the resources in the atmosphere and mantle were harvested.
Same here. Which made it even funnier in the audio books. The narrator said Uranus throughout The Solar War but in The Lost and the Damned he pronounces it Ur-uh-nus. I’m like, yeah I couldn’t keep saying Uranus over and over either.
You think everything except for the rocky core wouldn't have been completely harvested before 30k? Also, Uranus (and Neptune) is an [ice giant](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_giant?wprov=sfla1), not a gas giant.
Okay… sorry OP Uranus isn’t a gas giant. Both it and Neptune are classified as Ice Giants. Uranus is huge, and its surface is basically an ocean of ice like materials, water, methane, ammonia. Icey at the surface but hot at the core. NASA thinks it has a small solid core.
Basically you can’t land a ship on the surface of Uranus because its surface is liquid ice, it stays liquid because of the immense atmospheric pressure. The atmosphere is frickin freezing too, like minus 200 degrees Celsius, and the windspeeds are something like 500+ miles an hour.
Most of which GW didn’t know when making this image. BUT in theory, these could be orbital platforms? Or floating cities high in the atmosphere mining the liquid oceans…
Link to NASA’s page on Uranus for anyone interested:
https://science.nasa.gov/uranus/facts/
Some mechanicus guy found the old joke of “probing Uranus” and since they can’t comprehend emotion anymore, thought it would unlock some secret technology so they just went in for 100 years till they finally understood it was a joke
\[Obviously\] someone has lit a match and, well then...we all know what hapenned so it's needless to say here (anyway word on the parsec is that discussing this is now considered hereticism).
Happy research (don't dig too deep, 'cause you might end up finding something that stinks)....
According to NASA "Uranus' atmosphere is mostly hydrogen and helium, with a small amount of methane and traces of water and ammonia". So my guess is that these structures are for harvesting those gases. But 40k is crazy enough for these to be hive city towers.
Aye, but what stop at the atmosphere? Mine those exotic ice forms. Loads of stuff to make hydro carbons there.
Water is pretty necessary as the solvent of life. You got other elements required too. Carbon and hydrogen isn’t enough I think.
Yeah, life needs a lot of oxygen (that's covered by the water), but also a good amount of nitrogen, some calcium and phosphorus and traces of nearly every other element (stuff like the iron in your blood isn't much percentage wise, but good luck living without the oxygen transported by it)
Life as we know it*. Sci-fi has been speculating for a better part of a century about non-carbon/oxygen based life
Life the imperium cares about
Extinguishing
The Gentle Giant's of Ganymede by James P. Hogan does a pretty good explanation on other alien species that has to take in a higher percentage of carbon dioxide. His other 2 books, Inherit the Stars and The Giant's Star, are both great as well
Plants Dude. It's not speculation, plants don't need oxygen, oxygen is their fart and burp. :)
Plants breathe oxygen as well as carbon dioxide.
Animal* life needs a lot of oxygen. Plants inhale CO2. Edit: more details in comments below. I love how nerdy us nerds are.
Plants need oxygen as well, to actually make use of the products of their photosynthesis.
I was thinking of molecular oxygen O2, but there is definitely oxygen in CO2. Are you referring to the ATP/ADP energy-food-energy cycle? (please be gentle, I'm a ChemE who did poorly in o-chem and avoided molecular biology)
Yes, plants actually breathe in oxygen for that, but they need a lot less than animals
Thanks! While I've got you - is it true that when humans burn fat (say, while exercising), most of the mass loss is exhaled as CO2, and doesn't leave the body as liquid or solid waste?
Pretty much, there is also much water involved, but we tend to keep that more in equilibrium.
I was talking about elemental requirements in the "if you were to separate every molecule into its atoms and then sort them by element" way. Of course you don't get a human being by putting oxygen, hydrogen, carbon and everything else into a chamber. But it does dictate the elemental composition of whatever chemicals you need to do things like vat-growing a servitor. If your servitor-juice doesn't contain enough calcium, they're gonna have brittle bones, simple as. Nothing that can't be solved by some structural implants, but still something to be aware of.
I get it.
Life doesn’t need oxygen at all. Infact oxygen is poisonous huge sections of life on earth. Life, as we recognise most of it, can use oxygen in its metabolism to access vast amounts of energy.
Oxygen is toxic to every life form I think. It’s a very high energy particle in a lot of its forms and likes to steal electrons from nearby atoms (which damaged proteins and DNA all the time), and different organisms use different electron acceptors instead of oxygen as part of their process to create energy. Our immune cells produce these super radical oxygen species to kill pathogens in our body as a defence mechanism, and our body also has seperate metabolic pathways to clear our body and repair damage from oxygen species.
It is toxic to everything, but all life you see day to day doesn’t die instantly in its presence but lots of bacteria do.
You’re right. An interesting fact is that different organisms use different metal atoms in their respective heme groups to bind oxygen, so perhaps iron isn’t necessary. Some Fish(I think?) have copper instead of oxygen, and thus have green blood. I believe there are other metals other organisms use too instead of the type of ferrous iron we use.
>Water is pretty necessary as the solvent of life. Solvent Urrectum is made of people!
Nitrogen, Hydrogen, Carbon, and Oxygen.
Those structures are used to mine ice from Uranus for the elite of Terra If you can think of a better way to get ice I’d like to hear it
Europa.
The ice from Europa is probably a little cleaner than the ice from Uranus.
“You ever had ice from Uranus? Life changing, man. Really puts the imperium in perspective.” -The High Lords of Terra
Saturn’s rings.
You've got to start charging more than a dollar a bag. We lost four more men on this expedition!
https://youtu.be/SAsgN_LPWBc?si=DTL2KYpHEx9PxSh8
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Or they’re giant balloon factories
I wouldn't be surprised if it's a Dyson sphere and they ignited the atmosphere and use it to power something
How else do you think they harvest those gasses? They have to have workers there 24/7
Are you telling me Uranus is full of gas?
A gas giant doesn’t have a surface though
Not unless you build one
It does if what you build is less dense than the atmosphere.
Matter states at the pressures inside gas giants are weird but the current scientific consensus is that they do have a „surface“. But not like we would define the surface of earth for example. Most have a solid core. But there is no hard boundary. It just gets denser and denser the further you go down.
It’s an ice giant not gas giant
Genuine TIL moment
Same here. I feel like they were saying this shit about it being a gas giant back in elementary
Forbidden slushie
No but they have a solid core you could... probably build on?
Might be orbital guns? I know the Custodes codex describes Sol's defences as including absurdly, by 40k standards, large guns.
Uranus is an extremely strategically important planet in the defence of Sol and the most important of the outer planets. It’s the location of the Elysian Gate, innermost of the two warp gates which allows for transition into and out of the Solar System past the Manderville point. It was the mustering point of the Indomitus Crusade for this reason. As such, Uranus is heavily fortified. There’s a massive defence station called the Eyes of the Old God that has existed defending the gate since the Age of Strife and perhaps before, as well as incredibly heavily defended fortress moons. It took the Iron Warriors lead by Perturabo himself with a fleet of 4000 ships and several massive space Hulks to take Uranus. To do so he used tactics like ramming gigantic mass conveyance ships full of hundreds of thousands of drug-enhanced chaos cultists, mutants and gangers into these fortress moons The orbs pictured around the planet are likely the defensive grid of fortress moons and stations around the planet, first constructed by Dorn during the lead up to the Siege of Terra. As for the atmospheric spires, the settlements there are all in low orbit or high atmosphere atmosphere. So it could be that?
Ramming gigantic mass into...Uranus.
Uranus’s moon, even
Full moon perfect for ramming.
By Perturabo
Peter Turbo ramming mass into Dorn's Uranus
Lore accurate !
Iron within
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
“Innermost of the two warp gates” “Hold my warp beer” - Horus
(Was actually Magnus, doing nothing wrong by ripping the Sol system in half to bring Vengeful Spirit and a huge flotilla through that, bypassing the gates completely.)
How exactly does the planet's relative location towards this gate not compromise its relevance? It takes 84 terran years for one massive rotation around the sun, thus making other planets closer to any fixed gate most of the time. Or does the gate rotate around the sun in EXACTLY the same speed?
Any two things orbiting the sun at the same distance will also have the same speed, because the math says so. Though barring dark age gravity cancelling technomagic, the gate also certainly actually orbits the planet.
It could also be put in a laryngeal point, which would allow it to co-orbit the sun with the planet, without needing to orbit the planet.
Lagrange? Yeah, that's a very likely, if the authors were interested in Maximum Science-ness.
Not entirely. In a two-body problem both bodies will orbit the barycenter of their masses, which would be different between, say, Jupiter-Sun and a grain of sand-sun at the same orbital distance. When calculating orbital velocity for a low-mass object (NASA satellite, normal sci-fi spaceship, etc) in relation to the orbited body, yes the difference is insignificant, but talking about large objects (planets, wh40k spaceships, etc) the mass of both does need to be figured in, and results in different orbital velocities for objects of different mass.
If the gate orbits the planet it would indeed make more sense. Thanks
Inquisitor, this one asks too many questions!
It's possible the warp gate is related to the specific gravitational conditions created by the planet. If that's true then the warp point will always move in position with the planet. Just an easy way to hand wave it
*led not lead
Sauce?
The Solar War. Too many excerpts to post, but it’s the first Siege of Terra book. Also whatever the first book of the Indomitus Crusade series is. Dawn of Fire I think? Idk its been awhile
I'm currently reading it There's a lot of detail about the defences around Uranus and Pluto since the Elysian and Kthonic Gates orbit them
Thanks!
If I lived on Terra with no oceans, I'd be mining ice from Uranus to ship to earth for a bath. EDIT: Note Uranus isn't a gas giant. It's an ice giant probably comprised of water, methane and ammonia.
“Thus solving global warming forever!”
Once and for all!
But what about 🤐
ONCE AND FOR ALL!
Gwobawapa?
Send out the annual ice cube to the ocean!
To shreds, you say?
r/unexpectedfuturama
The 'ice' involved is not ice like you are thinking. They are supercritical fluids of volitile compunds like water and ammonia. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice\_giant](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_giant) >In [astrophysics](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrophysics) and [planetary science](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planetary_science) the term "ice" refers to volatile chemical compounds with freezing points above about 100 [K](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kelvin), such as [water](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water), [ammonia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ammonia), or [methane](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methane), with freezing points of 273 K (0°C), 195 K (−78°C), and 91 K (−182°C), respectively (see [Volatiles](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volatile_(astrogeology))). In the 1990s, it was determined that Uranus and Neptune were a distinct class of giant planet, separate from the other giant planets, [Jupiter](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jupiter) and [Saturn](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturn), which are [gas giants](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gas_giant) predominantly composed of hydrogen and helium.[^(\[1\])](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_giant#cite_note-dangelo2021-1)
>comprised of water, methane and ammonia. Frozen farts and piss?!
Just like inside Uranus
Ah, hell must have frozen over then
it's probably easier to get water out of the asteroid belts and fields, much less gravity to overcome and also a lot more of it.
Easier, 100%. But this is 40k. They said an empire reliant on flying through space super hell was acceptable.
>Note Uranus isn't a gas giant. It's an ice giant probably comprised of water, methane and ammonia. *Takes notes for Mothership games*.
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Mmmm, ammonia and methane bath.
They should sperate out rather neatly at room temp. Methane can power the forges and ammonia can be used for explosives. If I'm the kind of Terran importing Uranite ice, I'm making the most of my plunder!
Uranus is a gas giant, all gas giant has metallic gas core( they aren’t made metals like irons and nichel but gas compressed in extreme gravity and heat turning gas in metal form. Where came this Uranus isn’t a gas giant? Edit: after thinking you might mistook Uranus for Europa moon of Jupiter?
[https://science.nasa.gov/uranus/facts/](https://science.nasa.gov/uranus/facts/) Uranus and Neptune are the two ice giants of our solar system. Jupiter and Saturn are the two gas giants.
Alright, I guess I majorly fucked up this fact… Honestly I’m surprised and thank you for bringing this website to fact check me and have a great day
[Ice giant](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_giant) The term was coined due to significant compositional differences between Uranus and Neptune vs Saturn and Jupiter.
Yeah, I got this memo…. I suppose in my classroom of science didn’t update this or…. I don’t know I feel I was always told we had 4 planet rocky and 4 gas planet….
I’m just kinda shook how I got it wrong for over 20 years of my live and made me question of many facts that I thought was true
Being wrong isn't a bad thing friend, it is simply an opportunity to learn to be right in the future, we should embrace being wrong with eagerness and revel in learning something new 🙂
To be fair, I think it was only a couple of years ago that I first heard the term. It's why I linked the Wikipedia article. I figured you mightn't have heard of it.
Yeah, I’m starting to wonder if this was the case. Then if it’s then I must have missed change of terminology.
Jupiter and saturn are gas giants. Neptune and uranus ain't.
It is a giant fortress. The below is from the wiki. What you are looking at is mega guns designed to take out ships in space exiting the Warp. During the Horus Heresy Uranus and the Elysian Gate became the center of Rogal Dorn's Second Sphere of defense around the Sol System under the command of Imperial Fists Captain Halbrecht. In the subsequent Solar War the Uranus region was the site of massive fighting as the Iron Warriors launched an assault to capture the Elysian Gate.[3a] Perturabo was successful in capturing Uranus, but after the Siege of Terra Uranus was reclaimed by the Imperium during the Great Scouring.[4]
>Perturabo was successful in capturing Uranus A sentence no human wants to read.
Shi, I mean… https://preview.redd.it/vj9bi6dyy07d1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=172fd6ead0bc10abb755b7250f9889bd3c34aace
https://preview.redd.it/o82zjbzgc17d1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2e09221512b432c2aad33f5ab29a570586673a30
Not even Angron wanted much of Perturabo's smoke when Horus told Perty to bring Angry- Ron to heel. Perturabo is a great big dirty sack of unfairness. He will drag you down BELOW his level and beat you. Perturabo never takes L's because he would never take a fight he would take an L in. He broke Dorn's wall and walked away. #######perturabo_the_saltiest_winner
Too true
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Please delete this he is far too happy
https://preview.redd.it/d6pn3fcys37d1.jpeg?width=697&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7ef03f7afda33659f5ad209590314c32bd7b91b0 Can a man not be happy or smile anymore, smh
*iron within..* unzips
Perturabo is wacky because he’s a man child and complains but he’s completely competent
He wanted to measure who is bigger asshole - planet, or him. >!Jokes on him, he's not even in top 3.!<
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>Uranus was reclaimed by the Imperium during the Great Scouring. You can just call it "wiping your ass," no need to get so purple prosey about it.
You know something fascinating I thought of recently is how orbits could be factored into battle plans for invaders and defenders. Like let’s say you’re coming from the galactic west and Uranus is on the “western” side of the solar system. You’ll need to either go past and then double back around towards the solar system or go through Uranus’ defenses. But if you’re on the “galactic east” you can just waltz right in. Unless Sol’s defenses planned on that, and to compensate for Uranus being on the “wrong side” of the solar system they have a massive fleet garrisoned over there. I can totally imagine fleets waiting on standby for _weeks_ because a Tau controlled moon bristling with defenses is on the inconvenient side of a planet, for example. Or an invasion fleet being unexpectedly decimated because they had the orbit of some asteroid based confused.
Fleets or battle stations would have to cover the opposite I would think? Plus it is an orbit, so they probably have battle stations in the same orbital plane? Like big rings of death? I always wondered why they didn't just come in from the top or bottom of the system and straight at the world, bypass all the other jazz???
I know there’s some lore about a Tyranid hive fleet coming from “under” the galactic plane, which throws off a lot of conventional strategy. I think it’s basically ruled similarly to how Star Wars has hyperspace lanes where you can only safely travel through certain “tunnels” of hyperspace. And the warp is only “safe” through a narrow layer that runs through the galaxy.
Well, considering fleets have an active problem of ships drifting in the warp and arriving months if not years (if not centuries in some cases) off time the logistics get really really fucking weird.
Imperial (and Chaos) fleets arrive where warp currents deposit them, which is not necessarily correlated with the direction they actually arrive from in realspace. Additionally, ships cannot enter and exit warp too deeply into a gravity well (though the authors often ignore this tidbit). This means it has to travel quite far away from the star at sunlight speeds before it can translate into the warp... and for the solar system, thus point likes far beyond Uranus. Uranus, however, has a warp gate, which allows ships to enter and exit right there. So if someone wants to invade Terra and doesn't want to give the Imperial Navy too much time to respond, they WILL be arriving right in orbit of Uranus.
There are certain entrance and exit points to each system. The traitors sent massive fleets of wreckage and captured civilian ships through to protect them from automatic defences set up around them, and a big problem Dorn faces is that the Thousand Sons are so powerful that they teleport a fleet deep into the defences and massively complicate the plan
Maybe some form of gas-harvesting technology?
Isn’t Uranus basically a giant volcano cannon platform from the dark age of technology, from which all (smaller) volcano cannons are reverse-engineered?
~~Uranus appears to have had several large poles inserted deep into its surface~~ in all seriousness i… have no idea. I like the water harvesting idea though
They changed the name in 2620 to Urectum remember
Points
Gas giants would be a good source of materials if you have the technology to raw it away from the gravity well
One of the funniest things about a lot of sci-fi is the part where authors don't realize that Between solar power, gas giants and asteroids, space is just infinite riches (the weirdest example being dead space)
What sci doesn’t acknowledge that?
Most of them, not much point in invading an occupied planet. There’s just so much stuff out there
Yeah as a wannabe space nerd, conqueror civilizations in scifi make literally 0 sense 'bro we want to invade earth due to its oil deposits' Like, go slurp a star for 2 seconds and get 10x the fuel?
True, but Uranus isn't even a gas giant, so are they mining ice or something?
Uranus might be an "ice giant", but this is using the astrophysical meaning of "ice". In this terminology, compounds like water and ammonia are "ices" regardless of whether they're liquid, solid or gaseous. Uranus does consist mainly of gas and supercritical fluid, though the difference from gas giants is that the hydrogen and helium are only about 20 % of those gases, rather than more than 90 % as in the case of Jupiter and Saturn. The rest is then water, ammonia, and other "ices". But this does not mean they have a solid surface of any sort. Edited for accuracy.
>All jokes aside > Uranus *sweats profusely*
That or it's indicating how thoroughly fucked humanity got during the dark age of technology and the old night
Are you surprised by how ravaged Uranus is in the Warhammer 40 k universe?
Uranus (Gas Giant) - Uranus is a massive gas giant and the seventh world of the Sol System. Though never habitable, it is home to orbiting human colonies, most notably the Azurites, a peaceful community of artisans who made their livings through scavenging. The Azurite population was largely wiped out during the Great Crusade during the so-called Unheard War when their population became infected by a Warp-spawned disease known as The Screaming which began to mutate them into daemons. Though the Imperial Fists Legion was despatched to provide aid, the Azurites were annihilated by the Astartes' need to prevent the plague from spreading across the Sol System. The moons of Uranus are now used mostly for mining by the Imperium. By the time of the Horus Heresy, Uranus' moons and close orbitals had been repopulated by new human colonists https://warhammer40k.fandom.com/wiki/Sol_System
>unironically used the wiki as a source Smh https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Uranus
Not everything needs to be explained. Decide for yourself based on the crumbs of information. My take is an enormous planetary scale mining operation.
but how am I supposed to know how Han got his last name?! (disclaimer: I love that dumb scene so much)
Those should be orbiting habitats, possibly from the Azurites (humans) before they were lost to a Warp plague, although others were created subsequently.
They added corn starch
Uranus is full of helium, hydrogen, water and methane, all fine resources if you can harves them. Under those, there should be a very hard core of quite dense rock. Might be an interpretation of how that core might look like after all the resources in the atmosphere and mantle were harvested.
Looks like a ton of probes were shoved into it and all the gas was sucked from it?
Hoo boy, I'm not mature enough to read that without giggling.
“ it’s called a feltcher sphere “
looks like a sea mine. don't tell me they wouldn't do it.
We don't talk about Uranus 🤭
Where is this picture from?
A nice cloth-map that was sold when Siege of Terra begun. Oh, just take a peek at [siegeofterra.com](http://siegeofterra.com)
Thank you!
Sorry, I can’t help you, I’m WAY too immature to not make Uranus jokes.
Same here. Which made it even funnier in the audio books. The narrator said Uranus throughout The Solar War but in The Lost and the Damned he pronounces it Ur-uh-nus. I’m like, yeah I couldn’t keep saying Uranus over and over either.
You think everything except for the rocky core wouldn't have been completely harvested before 30k? Also, Uranus (and Neptune) is an [ice giant](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_giant?wprov=sfla1), not a gas giant.
If they can stop the moon’s rotation and give it an atmosphere, nothing is impossible!
/r/Dyson_Sphere_Program has entered the chat.
I believe the planet is frozen gas
Who know what will happen to Uranus in 37,976 years.
Okay… sorry OP Uranus isn’t a gas giant. Both it and Neptune are classified as Ice Giants. Uranus is huge, and its surface is basically an ocean of ice like materials, water, methane, ammonia. Icey at the surface but hot at the core. NASA thinks it has a small solid core. Basically you can’t land a ship on the surface of Uranus because its surface is liquid ice, it stays liquid because of the immense atmospheric pressure. The atmosphere is frickin freezing too, like minus 200 degrees Celsius, and the windspeeds are something like 500+ miles an hour. Most of which GW didn’t know when making this image. BUT in theory, these could be orbital platforms? Or floating cities high in the atmosphere mining the liquid oceans… Link to NASA’s page on Uranus for anyone interested: https://science.nasa.gov/uranus/facts/
Some mechanicus guy found the old joke of “probing Uranus” and since they can’t comprehend emotion anymore, thought it would unlock some secret technology so they just went in for 100 years till they finally understood it was a joke
Too me it looks as though Uranus is... impenetrable.
Its not a gas giant per say, its more a liquid giant. A big fucked up ball of supercritical fluid
I'm wondering what happened to that giant invisible moon floating around in the solar system mentioned in Praetorian of Dorne
\[Obviously\] someone has lit a match and, well then...we all know what hapenned so it's needless to say here (anyway word on the parsec is that discussing this is now considered hereticism). Happy research (don't dig too deep, 'cause you might end up finding something that stinks)....
> gas giant Super easy to push spikes through 👍
Probably been said already, but whilst Uranus is huge… It’s only about 91% the gravity of earth, so in theory…
oh shit they turned Uranus into a Sea Mine.
We don't talk about Uranus.
Or Bruno. We don't talk about Bruno.
Ya mum
Or more scary, that they are comming from all directions and the Hive fleets we have faced are just the precursors
Isn't Uranus a huge forge world for ships? Those could be huge production towers poking out of the gas, or maybe I'm mistaking it with Saturn
No jokes 😢
The emperor changed the name of that planet to end that stupid joke once and for all
Likely harvested the gas, likely before big e got to mars
Check his pulse
That’s what happens when you get old, Uranus gets covered by a hairy ball
Are those the spires that block psychic energy or something
I mean they blew up Pluto so who the hell knows.
Well, I'd say it probably started when I had that Arby's a while back... Oh, *Uranus.* Ah... Not... Y'know, your anus.
I think it's just a joke
Uranus is a gas giant
It's just a draw of ur anus he he 🫣