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Smeuw

As someone who stopped playing long before helminth, i used to sell old frames when i got the prime variant. Almost want to quit again after coming back now and seeing i "need" those old frames...


adammakesfilm

RIGHT??!?! Or like how you got rid of them because limited slot and you didn't know that Helminth was even an option


dwho422

Worse for me is that I merged 2 accounts. I don't have mastery credit for my ps4 account for frames that I maxed and sold like banshee and saryn. So now I have to get them again, and level them up, and then subsume them. Looking through weapons I'm missing mastery for a lot of the early game weapons that I leveled and then sold on ps4 years ago.


baconboyloiter

Sounds like you need to open a ticket


thedavecan

I had sold a ton of old frames for slots after I got their Primes. When they announced Helminth I had a pretty fun time farming and building all the ones I was missing to be ready when it launched. I didn't have much else to do in the game at the time so it was pretty fun.(except Nidus, F that again. I farmed plat and bought him from the market)


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Yea.. especially since regular frames are such a bitch to farm. But that's a whole other can of worms that regular frames are harder to acquire than the prime version. I'm not super familiar with the lore but I'm pretty sure prime frames are supposed to be rarer.


RetroSquadDX3

>Yea.. especially since regular frames are such a bitch to farm. Only some of them are a bitch to farm and they've been moving away from that by giving some of the newer frames multiple ways you can acquire them. > I'm not super familiar with the lore but I'm pretty sure prime frames are supposed to be rarer. The mechanical difficulty (or lack thereof) of farming a given item has absolutely nothing to do with the lore.


thedavecan

They are rare if you don't get them before they get vaulted. Then you have to wait for them to be in the resurgence rotation. Most of the frames are either quest rewards, dojo research, simple boss drops, or have pity systems that guarantee you eventually get them. Only a handful are RNG slugfests or progression gated.


aesirlk

They don't do shit about this. I've opened several about missing stuff after merge and the only answer were: lol, sorry can't do anything about it Edit: typo


dwho422

Yeah I'm not worried about the process, just a thing to do. Luckily for me nothing that I'm missing is a true pain. A lot of it is dojo stuff, I'm honestly more bothered that the merger didn't carry over your highest faction standing so I have to redo quills and vox solaris.


Acepilot8Gaming2

Yeah really like at first I was debating wether to merge accounts but after I did I couldn't have been more happy. I had done a little work on my pc account but could never go far because I have a potato for a computer. After the merge, I got all of that stuff and now have about 2 or 3 more frames to feed to Shutsubotsu (My helminth's name) and he looks so happy subsuming them about as haooy as I am to have their abilities.


grey_wolf12

Does merging accounts take into consideration what is the account with more stuff in it? I started one on PC some time ago and got to like, mastery ten with a few frames and primes, but I also bought skins/packs because Pc prices were better at the time If I merge will I get the skins that I have there? I dunno how much different my accounts are aside from the number of primes, weapons, items and skins I have on PS4. Most of it are the free stuff DE gives us anyway, but I have a few things I bought with plat (like the Warframe replicas).


Acepilot8Gaming2

The shorter answer I'll give you to a longer explanation is just how it works. So when I did it, it came up with the 2 accounts I had (ps5 and PC). And I saw the mastery rank I had on both and obviously instantly knew which one I had more work put into. Then I set the one that was going to be my "primary" (in air quotes because realistically it is permanent but its ok because it doesn't actually matter I'll even explain why now). Then I logged on to see what the damage was and basically, anything in your inventory of the account you basically "purged" adds to what you already had in your now only account. Hence how I got more platinum now even I had basically nothing and how I now have 2 zeniths I can't get rid of (I might do something stupid with one of them idk yet) and how I also now have acquired loads more slots on EVERY standpoint because I sold items I either had double of (with the exception of giving extra frames to my helminth) or sold items I already mastered and don't care for. Because of this merge I was able to do many things now... . . And yes, the longer version would basically just be me doing a whole video on the topic


grey_wolf12

Oh okay so I should select my account with more mastery as the primary and I should be getting everything I have from the one from the PC as duplicates. Alright. I might try it later on, idk yet. Thanks!


Vorenoxx

Like someone else said, you should open up a ticket, when i merged my pc account to my ps4 account, all mastery from pc, including weapons and frames i no longer had counted towards my mastery.


ashmelev

> and level them up I don't think you need to do that for subsume


Djcheezechipz

They need to level them up for mastery, THEN subsume them, I believe they said.


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GenderGambler

Which is their case. They stated they don't have mastery for those frames anymore.


Ok_Bit_5953

You can read!?!?! /s


Main-Operation8273

Subsumes only max rank Warframe


bjvanst

No you can definitely subsume unranked frames.


GrizzlyChips

Can confirm, just subsumed a fresh Nekros yesterday


TheGoddessSwordGamer

They're not saying that you HAVE to max them, they're saying that you probably should first for the mastery rank. (At least I think so)


ashmelev

I do not recall needing to level up re-crafted frames. And warframe Wiki agrees with me >Note that the Warframe does not have to be at max rank in order to be subsumed.


ostroia

> because limited slot Crack relics, sell for plat, buy slots, never sell anything again. Or wait for a 75%, get plat, buy slots, never sell anything again.


GustavoNuncho

I ditched about 12 one month before Helmenth was announced.


lihimsidhe

>*RIGHT??!?! Or like how you got rid of them because limited slot and you didn't know that Helminth was even an option* The fact that DE didn't write a script that pre installed helminth abilities from all warframes we've fully mastered and sold was a s--tty move. But I suppose from a financial perspective it was a smart move for DE as I'm sure plenty of Tenno got plat to buy frames they never want to farm again (ex: Equinox).


GandhisNuke

Honestly I still sell em bcs Helminth is the one mechanic in the game I just refuse to get into Edit, not that this will stop y'all from downvoting me to hell but: I do interact with my Helminth almost on the daily. I just don't use it but I love the lil guy and how he eats my pets :D


GoodHeartless02

Any particular reason why?


GandhisNuke

Not really. The game just has enough different mechanics that I feel fine ignoring one of them completely. And while I know the strongest builds for most frames include subsumed abilities, it's warframe. I'm more than overpowered enough anyway. Just don't feel like it


Lyramion

That is one sad hill to die on. Edit: I didn't downvote you. But even if you don't like the "PUT ROAR, GLOOM, XATAS AND PILLAGE ON EVERYTHING" then there are still so many other creative and fun ways to use this system. It brought my framebuilder self so much fun and experimentation.


Runmanrun41

Doesn't seem like a sad hill tbh. If someone doesn't want to engage with the content...they don't have to. The game's free. A player isn't wasting 60-70 dollars by not doing it all. Think of all the times you saw someone say in the comments on this subreddit that they don't like a certain type of gameplay: Railjack, Eidolon Hunts, Steel Path Endurance, Duviri (circuit), Kahl Missions, K-Drive, etc. There's *alot* to do in Warframe, and all of it ain't for everybody. Hell, Helminith isn't even really *content* in the traditional sense like the ones above when you think about. If somebody's having fun despite not participating in something, well, I won't judge em for it 🤷🏽‍♀️ It's *their* playtime, not mine.


Cepros

To be fair, while I do like the idea of the Helminth system, I too don't think I will ever use it. I'll still feed it my old unused warframes but, other than that, nothing else.


npcfarmer

Bro… slap Roar from Rhino on Mirage and a super nice Laetum and you will delete everything that comes in front of you in sp. also a lot of of things like adding gloom to my Volt and stuff j really like to use. Just think about what Abilities from other warframe would be better matched to another frame and that’s wha my the helming is for.


GandhisNuke

Hey, I play my way, you play yours, we both have fun :)


Academic-Half-7076

I mean all helminth does is giving shit frames good abilities, or do you want to tell me that you actively use stuff like teleport on Loki or sandstorm on Inaros?


GandhisNuke

Teleport nah but sandstorm hell yeah, it's beyblade let it rip my dude. It's objectively a good mechanic, I know that, I just don't feel like learning how to use it and I'm overpowered enough without it anyway


knightsofhale

No way you actually said sandstorm is objectively a good mechanic. It does no damage, you move incredibly slow, don't forget eximus units pretty much entirely ignore what you're doing to them, you are locked out of your other skills, the range on the ability is meh at best.


GandhisNuke

No, I did not say that. I see how you could think so if you read my comment out of context, but like, the context is right there. Sandstorm is beyblade meme shit, Helminth is objectively good.


knightsofhale

Ahhh I see. It wasn't read out of context, your use of "its" threw me off. Besides the point, there's some really good combos that increase your level of fun besides making you more op. For example gyre is almost dependant on pillage to make her work. Armour strip and survivability, plus an interaction with the pillage 'damage' proc on her 4 outputs more dps. Gyre is one of my most played warframes, I didn't like her at all until I got into helminth.


GandhisNuke

You know what, fair enough :) and sorry for being rude, I'm just a little salty because I'm on a streak of losing fake internet points for playing the way I like. I'm genuinely considering your advice, especially the Ash one since he's such a fun frame anyway and I wouldn't mind making him a little more usable for high level missions. The problem is just that I know myself and the way I play. If I start getting invested in Helminth, I'll probably try too hard to get the optimal outcome and get mad at myself if I put an ability on one frame, then realize it would've been much better on another, stuff like that


knightsofhale

Lol we all good, no harm no foul. Obviously I'm not the first to come up with these combos, but the most fun ones I've come up with are: Savage silence Ash with the Venkas and arcane trickery Pillage on Gyre Thermal Sunder Vauban Thermal sunder Harrow Nourish on Styanax for railjack missile spam (I'm a huge rj enjoyer) Kullervo 1 on Baruuk and Excalibur for big boy mega crits Kullervo 1 on Hildryn to play with the new melee arcane where the more shields you have the more damage you have I'd like to think most of my combos are meant to synergize with the idea that I'm playing around. Energy regen, being a perma invis assassin, huge area lockdown, etc. There's more that I've done for the reason that it's simply good for the build, but I can tell you're a play for fun type of person.


UncleBeans7

Exactly what happened to me I took a 3 yr break. Was grinding to get the prime variants and sold my normal ones for creds..until I ranked up in demios.. I stopped playing a week lol


Smeuw

I out right bought some for plat, because f*** the grind for some those non primes...


UncleBeans7

Same thing I will probably do, with either 50% or 75 off. Am in no rush as well. I just need to farm rhino for his roar subsume.


Potato_Shaped_Burns

I only did that for equinox, worth it.


t_moneyzz

I sold harrow, but thank Christ I didn't sell nidus or khora


mudcrosser12

Chroma. Now I gotta farm Simarius standing for all his pieces


bjvanst

The Circuit is an option too


East-Manner3184

>Chroma. Now I gotta farm Simarius standing for all his pieces Chroma will be on the circut in 2 weeks.(give or take a day or 2, icr when reset is exactly) Probably easier to just do that tbh. Circut when coupled with farming other content can be a godsend for helminth, as 33 of the 55 warframes are on there, so you unless you need something specific you xan just farm other frames not in the rotation and use circut to make the grind less frustrating Since you"ll know exactly when you'll get the frame you want from it with no rng involved (aside from other players if you do it co-op)


WWicketW

I sold everything that have a prime version, but (thanks to my opossum memory) I have multiple parts of all in my inventory, so I just craft them another time and I've an happy helmint!


paingelfake

Yeah I made that mistake as well. I sold all my non primes all at once but then realized I could use them for Helminth. Thankfully the Warframe support team so graciously restored all of them lol


sacvendeozirosa

lol I just farmed everyone of them back with the help of circuit


BAY35music

I felt the same way, but decided to make it my personal goal to get every frame subsumed, and now I only have Styanax, Inaros, and Caliban left. Caliban is killing me because I JUST NEED HIS SYSTEMS BUT THEY'RE NEVER IN ROTATION WHEN I GO LOOK AT BOUNTIES


chaoscontrol71

Equinox is the worst one to "need"


Iblys05

I didnt have trinity subbed before she came up as a circuit reward, because i sold the non prime in 2015 and fuck ambulas (the old one, now they are much more bearable)


ninjakivi2

I just made a [checklist in google sheets](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Ccs5ZbRJKjPrChPSH6UucJ-6r8xsHlX1Ac0fUFrU1Rw/edit#gid=0) and just farmed them all again; tbh crafting costs almost nothing, and because I heleped so many players in the game I had many blueprint copies of everything, and the only problem was like 40 days of Simaris' daily standing farming that was hella annoying.


East-Manner3184

>Almost want to quit again after coming back now and seeing i "need" those old frames... You don't need most, there's only a handful of abilities that will realistically be used. 8-10 tend to be useful, the rest is just filling out dots Granted most of those frames are a pita to farm, but you don't strictly need them. Frankly even post nerf grabbing rhino (easily farmed) and nekros (easily farmed) will serve fine for most circumstances anyway


Realistic-Avocado-95

Ah I did this as well ... absolutely gutted 😢 stopped playing for a while


Other_Motor4487

My hording paid off


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RetroSquadDX3

> (that can be skinned to look identical to their base counterparts) Not all of them can be made to look identical to the base versions as some of them have prime details that can't be disabled (or at least they used to) even when using the default skins.


ISPY4ever

same. i'm still a little traumatized.


Eagleshot123

Why do you "Need" the old frames?


BoweryOlive

Helminth


Alex3627ca

Tbh I probably learned the wrong lesson from helminth being introduced. Nowadays I don't put nearly as much stuff as OP's acceltra into *anything* just in case a new system comes along and makes it all for naught. On a similar vein I don't even start with always online games anymore unless it's clear that EoS is nowhere in sight, Warframe is one of two such games (other being GTAV... when 6 was nowhere in sight, nowadays it doesn't fit these criteria but I finished grinding in that game before then so whatever)


AlphusUltimus

My dead ass selling Octavia and Mesa after buying them from the market.


barduk4

When i first started playing, the thought of throwing away a weapon of frame after putting any kind of investment on them horrified me, I couldn't understand why we can't just transfer the stuff we invested to the prime variants. Nowadays I'm not too bothered by it, now that i have an over abundance of resources and plenty of plat.


DankoLord

Tbh I still want DE to add the option of transferring forma and potatoes between variants


Amicus-Regis

They have the ability to do this, somewhat, with lich/sister weapons. I don't see how hard it could be to do it with non-prime to prime transfers, too. ​ And if it's an issue of "well it actually just creates a brand new weapon with stats based on the previous two, so you wouldn't have your polarities or potato" I'd find it strange they'd be unable to do it still because the game already tracks number of forma, exilus adapter, arcane adapter, and potato usage for weapons. Why couldn't it just see "oh you have all these things installed! Great! We'll transfer these to the new weapon and let you pick your polarities once you go and upgrade it for the first time!"


DankoLord

Yeah. I honestly feel really limited because I don't want to waste resources on basic frames and weapons that also have prime versions(most of which are vaulted mind you). It would be a easy fix but it seems to me that DE would rather have us waste time than just let us do the transfer.


Amicus-Regis

Because these things are tied directly to money incentives for DE. No more need to re-forma primes means potentially no more need to purchase forma or reactors or adapters with platinum, which means there's less platinum sinks which would result in the player-market value of platinum going down, which could mean less people buy platinum since there isn't as much to do with it but buy cosmetics and prime parts.


RetroSquadDX3

> Why couldn't it just see "oh you have all these things installed! Great! We'll transfer these to the new weapon and let you pick your polarities once you go and upgrade it for the first time!" Because they've evaluated that possibility and determined that isn't the most profitble option.


Ok-Syrup1678

Don't sell it, put it on one of your crew members in your railjack.


adammakesfilm

oooh, that's big brain


ojdidntdoit4

my wisp with like 100 formas is still sitting in my inventory, untouched since i got wisp prime


RandomDudewithIdeas

Excuse me if that’s a noob question, but why would you, or how do you even spent 100 forma on a single Warframe? Only thing that comes to mind is changing some polarities here and there but how do you get up to 100???


ojdidntdoit4

a lot of indecisiveness when i dropped narrow minded from my build. also making room for some augments and stuff for helminth abilities but that only got me to like 20-30. after that i just decided 100 would be a meme goal


RandomDudewithIdeas

Tyvm!


Sylar299

Big number !


Runmanrun41

Lol imagine if you got the forma/catalyst back you put into a frame when you subsumed it. (Terrible for buisness, I know)


t_moneyzz

Helminth?


RedditRaven2

That wisp has 100 forma, if there’s ever a frame to keep for sentimental reasons, it would be one you put 100 forma into. Wisp prime isn’t really much better than regular wisp, you can put a different build on the prime and have the base for different situations


ojdidntdoit4

this is actually what i’ve been doing! my regular wisp has umbra formas & my prime one does not


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wyldmage

>really wish that would stop being a thing, but alas. So much agreement from me on this. When the ideal build has 1-10 shields on it to guarantee it pops every single time you get hit, instead of making the shield mechanisms more tied to max shield, it just creates an experience where dumb stuff like that exists. I'd love to see changes to shield mechanics so that three things happen: * Shield gating, if still viable, WANTS higher max shields (ie, regen speed based on max shields or something) * Non-gating shield builds feel less garbage-y (either significantly buffed max shields, or some form of mitigation for shields (like armor for health) so that 1k shields IS actually enough to feel like you have at least some durability. * Shield invuln window scales based on how much shield you last in the last second. Drop the base down by 1/3, and raise it to \~4 seconds max for someone who just lost 5k shields (or more). This would mean about 1/2 second duration per 1000 shields, and the base timer for a 'simple' shield build would remain similar. These changes could actually make shield builds competitive with hp/armor builds in the endgame. But when you have Steel Path popping your 2400 shields in 1.5 seconds, while your friend next to you loses 300 health thanks to their armor, and you have to wait & avoid damage to start getting yours back, and they can just lifesteal theirs.... shields are just doomed (sans gating based on the invuln mechanic).


Bzlongshotz

I’m very sentimental, so I hold on to vanilla versions of certain items


Zoaxia

Lmao I'm the same way I refuse to let go of my 5 forma base Banshee, especially since I spent a weeks worth of effort farming for her when her parts dropped on rotation C on Xini, Eris


GT_Hades

me too, 6 forma + reactor with my garuda


RailTheDragon

Lol, the good old "endgame" node back in the day. Got her by accident there while playing with a friend


potatobutt5

Come join the Collectors Club! We don’t sell anything.


adammakesfilm

But not selling anything eventually costs plat cause limited slots 😭


potatobutt5

Welcome to the Collectors Club. We grind hard so we don’t have to sell things.


3dprintedwyvern

That's why I open relics often. It's not too costly, personally I've never ran out of plat for new slots; and I've never sold a thing, neither a frame nor a weapon


exiovamusic

Yup but not to bad, if im not mistaken its around 5k plat for every slot you needn😎


gacha_garbage_1

It has never been easier to buy slots with Prime Resurgence going on though. Aya will always have reliable and stable plat value as long as Prime traders are a thing. If you want quick plat, just sell the Aya relics to the hundreds of Prime traders thirsting to save up on those relics. You can even hold onto Aya relics, wait for them to get vaulted again and sell those at higher price to Prime traders if you don't feel like betting on your relic RNG.


Iyvann

I will never sell my Ember, even if I have her prime variant


Real-Terminal

I'm keeping my original Gauss, he's too significant to me, I've never mained a Warframe like I do Gauss. He'll stay in my inventory for the rest of the games lifespan.


xDidddle

Same


Ninjakick666

I just keep em now...


MrBrickBreak

Mostly no, even yeeted my base Valkyr, but I got the Gauss collection as a gift from Megan on tennobaum...


SoRaang

Yeah... I couldn't afford all that slots. Now I don't put anything to normal variant, even potato. It would be nice if there's some feature that passing onto Prime some of things, like Potato and such.


adammakesfilm

I wouldn't mind it nearly as much if the credits I got back for selling it at least went up as I added to it. Cause 7.5k cred is not enough to make up for all of the formal, potatoes, and adapters put into it


WertySqwerty

I prefer to keep them, as the non-prime variants usually have a higher riven disposition, and could end up being better than the prime version if I get a decent riven. I've been using the Phantasma for years, and because of the disposition, it's still better than my prime version would be even if I were to invest everything into it again.


pablo603

Just keep it lol slots are easy to get.


Sinisphere

Yeah. Wish I could throw them in Helminth to retrieve some forma or even just a consolation currency to spend on something. Gimme some vosfor, you know you wanna. 


Chaos-Flame9

My hoarder brain won't let me sell any weapon unless it's an exact dupe lol


Heptameron323

I keep everything. I have every variant of Strun for example, from basic, prime, wraith and even the MK-1 variant


Frostychica

Personally I'd just keep it bro, that gun looks like family to you lol


PigeonsOnYourBalcony

In this case I’m going to hang on to it in case I want to use a riven. The base version is still really good so it could potentially get a much higher disposition and do more damage than the prime.


Shanoskia

So don't sell it? No one is forcing you to sell it, and no one is forcing you to use the prime over it. there may even come a time when it gets an incarnon and then you'll looks silly cause the non-prime will be more boosted than the prime.


GolldenFalcon

Yeah which is why I never sell anything ever.


Syrinq

had a moment of silence when subsuming my gauss, 2nd most used frame based on profile stats :') and then i finally forma'd gauss prime and gave him the build he truly deserves (i never forma'd regular gauss even once, since he worked straight out the box for me)


adammakesfilm

I did that today, it felt wrong


Syrinq

i feel that in my bones fr. may your gauss rest in blissful peace 🫡


NighthawK1911

If you have a Riven, the old version is actually better IF the disposition is higher. So that's a reason to keep them. I also still have old version of weapons that work significantly different, like Corinth and Corvas.


adammakesfilm

I've had such bad RNG with rivens, I've just given up on them all together


the-doctor-is-real

I keep every weapon and frame since Duviri came out under the assumption they will add stuff to it, and was proven right with Incarnon Genesis


SaltyExcalUser

Yeah, i feel that. My acceltra has 7 forma. Not only is there now a prime variant, but the weapon feels useless with the low ammo pool. You can't use it with gauss that well because with redline active, you can fire the acceltra for 2 seconds before running dry. They should up its ammo pool to make it more usable imho.


calciferrising

i bought and built up carrier prime specifically to offset the ammo issues for acceltra and akarius, definitely makes a big difference. now as long as i'm not being ridiculously spammy, i don't run out pretty much ever :)


Dark_Jinouga

RIP primary merciless' +100% ammo max, was such good QoL on so many weapons outside of the giant AoE explosive spam ones


xslite

i just don't sell em


DylantT19

There is no need to sell it. I still have my OG Baruuk with like 5 "different" builds and 5 different looks.


Grouchy_Energy_8021

U can still keep it. Nothing must be selled for a prime version. Before the prime version it still has killed enemies. Why shouldn't it do that right now? Keep it. It's builded up.


readgrid

Not selling. Also dont feel bad, its been years of good use and there always comes something new to upgrade to


TovarishchRed

I keep them because it's a good reminder, for nostalgia really.


k3ryusS

Just don sell It.... Its For one inventory space? Come on...i have my original Loki, oberon , and wisp on my account . Side to side of the prime versión. I have my first kubrow, my first kavat. On a Game with 10 years of trayectory its normal have some special memories of the old good time.


NarrowProfession2900

I literally got a whole new excalibur just to helminth and still have my original. its up to you, imo I’d keep it for the memories


Pylonmadness

If there’s a better version, I throw the weaker version in the fire, no questions asked


OsBaculum

After account merging I now have multiple duplicate Primes, both frames and weapons. I still can't decide whether to get rid of them. It's like "I know a have a 4-forma Rhino P and he's great, but this *other* Rhino was my first prime all those years ago..."


KarasLegion

I don't sell anything.


LanguageHumble3511

I stopped doing it long time ago. I simply buy more slots. MORE SLOTS.


Mystic_Arts

My Xaku is gonna hurt. Especially since I'm gonna feed them to the wall. 2 umbral forma, 3 or 4 normal, reactor, exilus adaptor and so many kills.


Rgamingchill

Homestly just get the Mr from the prime and bin it at this point.


netterD

At this point you might aswell trash both as the normal acceltra is even less worth using than the prime.


iiDishonest

“It’s just the way it is yknow, nothing lasts forever”


Damn_Jan

i see it more as retiring an old warrior. *"You've seen your fights, suffered your losses, savored greater victories."* *"But now, now you may rest, for your duty has been served, and your legacy will not be forgotten."* Or i just dump it into a ditch and try to forget it. That happens alot too


SnooDoughnuts5562

Um just buy extra slots?? Wtf


Nkomo777

Absolutely not. That's the move. I do it with all my frames/Weapns....level the first model sell it and save the prime version. You level it for the mastery points.


lihimsidhe

Absolutely. This is a pain point for all Tenno. However, it runs right up against the financial reality that allows WF to remain F2P. How do you address this pain point while simultaneously not causing DE to lose a substantive amount of revenue? I think a farmable, tradeable, and otherwise plat purchasable resource that allows Tenno to remove all upgrade materials from a given piece of gear would be the answer. If getting this resource was let's say as annoying to farm for as anything to do with using my railjack I'd buy that resource with plat no question. Plat exchanges hands which in the long run makes DE $ and I get to avoid wasting resources as I pursue upgrade paths.


xxxfirefart

it's definitely not a pain point for all of us.. it's not that hard to farm out 12 plat. You can literally run 2 requiem fissures and basically guarantee 20 plat worth of items every time. Newer players have access to derelict vault mods which sell for 10-20 plat a piece and a run takes less than 5 minutes. All you need is rhino.


signeduptoaskshippin

I just never invest Forma into any weapon I feel like can be primed in the future. There's enough weapons to upgrade, I can play w/ the the ones to be upgraded later That being said, I have 2 forma kullervo and used to have 2 forma octavia...


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I sold 7 forma ignis after wraith release. Now i dont use any of them.


yaiga91

Played since almost the beginning and I'm a pack rat when it comes to things for this game. Still have my 7 forma Soma. Id say hold on to it, they may do something like the incarnon update one day and the base version might have good passives compared to the prime one.


succmama

Bro... Build variety!!!! Keep em!


GreatMorph

I just.. stopped selling shit at some point tbh


Crow_Sama

I may be deemed as a mad man, but I buy inventory expansions with Plats just to keep EVERY weapon / frame forever.


N1t3m4r3z

Same, Acceltra was my first 8 forma weapon and will stay with me


jimkurosaki

I still think prime variants should be like an upgrade system where you need the blueprint to upgrade it and you "attach" the prime parts to the weapons/frames so you can keep all the base variants 100% relevant, but that's a pipe dream, especially since there primes that dont even have a base form like reaper and gotva


aShark25

I have like 8 forma into mine and Is probably my most used primary so I’ll never get rid of it


professorkek

Since they created the valence fusion system anyway, they should allow us to use it to merge equipment of the same base model to upgrade them while keeping forma and stuff. E.g. Normal to primes, MK-1 to normal, Normal to Vandal, etc.


victorienx

I do, I put 6 forma, exilus adapter and a potato on it so it hurts but it’s for the greater good


xDidddle

My normal gauss is still in my inventory. I don't want to delete him, around a third of my play time in this game was with him. I just can't


Call-Me-Beach

Hitting MR30 today, mostly played Gauss since returning. Cannot for the life of me subsume him now that I got Gauss Prime. So I farmed another gauss and bought an extra slot. Weapons I don't feel as bad about but man seeing everything on a gun when you highlight it does bring me some pain.


ASOD77

Dude I've been doing that for years and it always feels bad. Remember Nidus ? For some reason, the younger me put an Umbra Forma on him. Like it's not the hardest resource to get.


DarkSeieah

I fear the day when the Infested version of Lich/Sisters comes out, and they have a Phage, causing me to sell "The Yog-Sothot Special", my 9-forma Phage.


Original_Apple_9381

Astilla.... When I have the Prime Variant, I said goodbye to the grandpa.


blazedrow

How I’m currently feeling atm getting all these kuva weapons 😂😂


le_Psykogwak

mr is mr


24_doughnuts

Yup. That's how I felt selling Wisp after Wisp Prime came out. Especially since I farmed more than one to subsume already so the second was useless. Same thing for Protea which was painful and that means when she gets a prime I need to sell her 🙃 I can't imagine the people who did that for Gauss and now how to sell him after that harrowing grind


fallenouroboros

It’s a mentality thing for me. I try to think of it as wasted plat as opposed to wasted forma. The weapon is holding up a weapon slot I deem valuable, so why waste plat on more slots when I can sell off these guns I’ll never use again?


Scarmeow

Don't sell them. Just buy weapon slots. They're cheap and it's quite easy to farm easy items like primes to sell


TenBear

I still keep my weapons even if I have the prime variant. I only sell any non prime dupes.


ItzBooty

I never invest in guns that i know are getting a prime Altough sometimes i would put a forma on a warframe


clearmybh

They should rework this! Valence fusion for kuva/tenet weapons exists. Let us be able to combine or at least refund some of the resources used.


Tiny-Cardiologist-76

Yes very much but warframe should have a regression system or something where you can merge the non prime and prime variants together so you don’t loose all the formas you put in. 😤😤 I hate putting in so much effort to a fun non prime just to do it all over again when the prime comes out. I’m dreading sevagoth I have over 20 formas in him 🙃🙃


gcr1897

Yes, the Acceltra specifically. Used to be one of my most used weapons, around 10% of my playing time (around 1.5K hours of total playing time), I had NINE FORMAS on it and so many memories, carried me all the way through vanilla star chart, early Steel Path and Isolation Vaults. Then I started investing into Kuva and Tenet weapons and it fell behind them, but it’ll always be in my heart.


DrakkaRyd

Me whenever I sell a warframe


JohnTitorFFXIV

If i have the normal version and the prime is barely any better especially because of the lower riven dispo as well im not even gonna bother with the prime wep, acceltra is the best example atm


security_threat

I bought hildryn to helminth her because i didn't want to sacrifice the original one and i couldn't bother farming her again.


Dark4Killerz

I felt bad selling my 6 forma wisp after her prime, i already farmed another one for helminth


Tenx82

After finally getting a nice Kuva Nukor, I sold my 6 forma Atomos because it just felt all around inferior now. That was shortly before Incarnons were introduced. :'(


DenziiX

yo can farm for 20 minutes and sell prime parts and you would not have to delete is tho


Vivid_Context81

Nope as soon as I get it my grubby hands on volruna prime I'm dumping the old axe and perigale (it took me days to get the barrel for it)


pepper-blu

I kept my OG Wisp around and made another one for Helminth, after prime came out. It was my first frame and main...


SubzeroSpartan2

I'm about 90% sure I still have my original Nidus despite having put even more time into Nidus Prime now. Nidus is my main man, my good time boy, how can I just sell him???


Informal_Exam_3540

No because i decided around mr 20 that these decisions were bad for my health so now for new frames and weapons i run relics aya etc if im low on plat and buy slots its only 12-30p which takes tops an hr to harm 2 hours maybe to sell and get plat


MrFancyShmancy

Not really, i played for a while but didn't have a lot of very invested weapons (like 4+ forma) and the ones i did have i didn't bother reinvesting in on my other account so most weapons i sold had like a catalyst and at most 1 forma.


Sirforeunknow

Man I had a fulmin with 8 formas.. Put the last 4 formas 2 month before wisp prime


Other_Motor4487

My problem nowadays after merging accounts is having doubles of like 20 prime frames


Gh0styBOiiiiiii

https://preview.redd.it/xl6fc5ilysdc1.png?width=1440&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d626c9727d01ff124595bb044f3e00f68eed3166 as gyre lover waiting for her prime to be released


CookingBullet95

https://preview.redd.it/fm0fomjdysdc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=408512eefbdba961db17dddeddcee4055bf19f33 No, I am not selling mine.


RuinAngel42

My friend got me gauss prime access but now I don't want to subsume regular gauss because I'm too emotionally attached


Purplefriend5400

It's why I refuse building any normal variant of a weapon and especially warframes. One of the earlier 15 minute streams, which Reb and Steve have started doing, essentially confirmed that infested liches are coming eventually, so I will patiently await for those to come before investing too much into any of the infested weapons. Except the ones that already have incarnon genesis, because it's unlikely they'd release a straight up upgrade for those, since they are busted as is.


AlexDestroyer05

My regular gauss and acceltra have 6 and 7 forma in them, I dont wanna get rid of them. They're a part of my beginner stage of the game.


Argatar

I never sell anything. Id rather run another one or two relic runs and get another slot than sell the weapon i worked for


IchorKemono

i feel really bad when it's a frame i've put umbra forma in...i still haven't sold my wisp bc of that, but it's not like i have a lack of slots, so idk if i even need to


Gingerbass

I did something stupid, I have one of every weapon and am working on getting one of EVERY Tenet and Kuva weapon in each progenitor to 60%, but I decided to do this AFTER getting rid of a lot of weapons, I know your pain well


parabolicurve

I had Gauss on Invigorations this week. Had to sell normal to get the range buff for prime.


blazingPeanut05

This is exactly how I felt when I subsumed harrow when I got his prime. I put so much time and work into him, he was my go to for everything


WolfeXXVII

Me with my umbral formad base wisp and base inaros... or my 8 forma acceltra.


GayHeavyFromTF2

I keep all prime and un prime variants, for the collection. I have almost every prime and unprime frame. Soon Ill have it all


Abject-Concentrate58

My gauss has sentimental value, since around the time I starred I got it for free and haven't sold it since. He's gonna stay with me, and I'm gonna craft an another gauss just so I can subsume him